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TJ1991
: Bought this album this morning, so only heard it once. On first impressions I agree completely, 10/10.POSTED: 04/19/2007 - 08:18 am / quote |
fatboythin
: wow, never expected this...maybe i'll check it outPOSTED: 04/19/2007 - 08:57 am / quote |
lyrixgirl
: Now im definately buying the album,i especially wanna hear what she wrote while drunk...POSTED: 04/19/2007 - 09:11 am / quote |
kop4
: "HEY HEY HEY I WANNA BE YOUR GIRLFRIEND!"
how can this possibly get 10 for lyrics? :SPOSTED: 04/19/2007 - 09:48 am / quote |
Toady
: Seriously. What? I've reviewed the album for my magazine and it's not a good one. She's experimented with different styles, but some of the songs actually hurt my ears, and I usually quite like her music. There are a couple of gems on it, but the bad songs are so terrible they overshadow any good aspect of the album.
Yeah, you can tell she wrote them while she was drunk. I think that's her attempted excuse for why the songwriting is severely lacking.POSTED: 04/19/2007 - 10:37 am / quote |
mfergel
: Does anyone that's NOT a teenager (or at the latest, in college) care about Avril Lavigne?POSTED: 04/19/2007 - 10:38 am / quote |
clazz
: *cough* That was me posting as Toady, I forgot he was logged in lol.
The only thing I agree with in that review, actually, is that Runaway is a good song.POSTED: 04/19/2007 - 10:40 am / quote |
mfergel
: I demo'd the tracks on iTunes and the vocals hurt my ears. Man, what was with the nasally, caterwalling vocals? Reminds me of the snare on Metallica's St. Anger. Can't stand listening to either.POSTED: 04/19/2007 - 10:40 am / quote |
Bloody Headache
: How in hell can you justify giving this straight tens?!POSTED: 04/19/2007 - 10:55 am / quote |
rockstarbowker
: mfergel wrote:
Does anyone that's NOT a teenager (or at the latest, in college) care about Avril Lavigne? |
Yes I know lots of people.POSTED: 04/19/2007 - 11:16 am / quote |
Reaperchris13
: it's bull. there is way better music around to give this 10, and she had 2 albums?!POSTED: 04/19/2007 - 11:17 am / quote |
tagyoureit
: kop4 wrote:
"HEY HEY HEY I WANNA BE YOUR GIRLFRIEND!"
how can this possibly get 10 for lyrics? :S |
This just reminded me of a song by "The Bird and the Bee" the chorus goes, "Would you be my ****ing boyfriend?" I'm not a fan of Avril.POSTED: 04/19/2007 - 11:43 am / quote |
CraigKing
: Reaperchris13 :
it's bull. there is way better music around to give this 10, and she had 2 albums?! |
Yeah, Let Go was her first and Under My Skin her second, both good tbh.
Haven't heard the new one but, i'll give it a go.POSTED: 04/19/2007 - 12:36 pm / quote |
LordThon
: Reaperchris13 wrote:
it's bull. there is way better music around to give this 10, and she had 2 albums?! |
Whether or not there is better music should not matter.
The rating scale given on this site is designed to rate any particular album, as its own entity. Not as a comparison to other things.
Apparently, starbomb13 feels that Avril did really well with what she was aiming for. It's not that the album is literally perfect, and is superior to anything else in existence. Simply that it's perfect Avril.POSTED: 04/19/2007 - 12:43 pm / quote |
kaptink
: Users rating:
3.4
Serves her right for writing catchy music that gets stuck in my hed!POSTED: 04/19/2007 - 01:18 pm / quote |
frantix
: kop4 wrote:
"HEY HEY HEY I WANNA BE YOUR GIRLFRIEND!"
how can this possibly get 10 for lyrics? :S | Exactly what I thought, lol.
Sorry, but somebody who claims "I really respect Britney Spears, now I know how hard it is to sing and dance at the same time.", does not earn much respect from me.
Her first single, Complicated, wasn't that bad, had something catchy, something fresh. But this "Hey, hey"... sh*t, it's just a big fat sell-out, that's my opinion.POSTED: 04/19/2007 - 01:21 pm / quote |
Mahoru
: Well... no comments. The worst thing on Earth, has become even worse; I just thought it couldn't be possible, but now I know how low can "it?" fall.
But I also think that THIS is the real Avril: a f***ing silly teenager with a 10-year-old mind who lives in a pink world full of money, handsome boys, barbies and a f***ing pink car with a rabbit drawn on it!POSTED: 04/19/2007 - 01:41 pm / quote |
Frosticle
: You've got to be s***ing all over my chest, this album got 10 out of 10. How many bottles of coff syrup did u drink before you revieved this?POSTED: 04/19/2007 - 02:14 pm / quote |
Divinephyton
: I'm open to a lot of different music styles, although pop not being one of them I must say that there are some good pop songs out there, go listen to those instead, I ,as a music reviewer, was (as a joke) given this CD to review it for ourlocal magazine.
Some songs might be ''catchy'' to some, and hey, there are even some songs that I could listen to and not go suicidal within seconds but the music is VERY very basic, simple, the lyrics are very superficial, dumb, shallow and basically below standard.
We all know this is a pathetic atempt at being the next pop-princess and the ver youngest among us will probably like it, but for real music listeners, real musicians and real music, this is less than nothingPOSTED: 04/19/2007 - 02:17 pm / quote |
Shabalaba
: I heard the new song Girlfriend and thought it was complete cr*p, the lyrics are soo predictable, the guitar sucks. I used to haev respect for her because i thought her old stuff was alright but now i have lost all respect for herPOSTED: 04/19/2007 - 02:47 pm / quote |
metalisimortal
: kop4 wrote:
"HEY HEY HEY I WANNA BE YOUR GIRLFRIEND!"
how can this possibly get 10 for lyrics? :S |
haha agreed, she;s a sell out. but she's totally hot now lolPOSTED: 04/19/2007 - 03:34 pm / quote |
QSHooliganAM
: I understand how some people like this kind of music. I personally don't. I just wish people think before they give ratings. Only about 2% of all music deserves all 10's. And if you give it a 10 you better have good, specific reasoning why you did. I don't think Avril Lavigne deserves 10's. I do though somewhat respect what she does. I also disrespect some of what she does also. I just wish some people would be more opened minded about other music and what makes it good.POSTED: 04/19/2007 - 04:54 pm / quote |
strokes4ever
: seriusly? a 10? some1 must b pullin a prank, this is a dark dark day 4 UG if this is a serius reviewPOSTED: 04/19/2007 - 05:24 pm / quote |
Moon_Boots
: This is the problem of fans reviewing albums, it gets very biased. Only a handful of albums ever released deserve to get straight 10s.
POSTED: 04/19/2007 - 05:39 pm / quote |
Pinkflame190
: I'm sorry but I just don't get her. I mean, she sang these rock songs in "Let Go" that had a lot of meaning, but now, she's dancing around with really short shorts on and singing about stealing another girls boyfriend (I mean, that's really what the song is about). I heard the song "Girlfriend" and I thought is was really bad. The worst part was, it got stuck in my head when I was trying to go to sleep. To sum up, this is NOT a 10/10. Also, I didn't know she was working with Evan again. That's cool, I met him a couple of times because he went to my school. We had the same history teacher, isn't that neat.POSTED: 04/19/2007 - 06:48 pm / quote |
deanosaurx
: i dont mind it. but a 10 out of 10 is totally exaggerated. 10 out of 10 is like....the beatles white album....maybe. id give it a 6.5 or maybe a 7.
metalisimortal wrote:
kop4 wrote:
"HEY HEY HEY I WANNA BE YOUR GIRLFRIEND!"
how can this possibly get 10 for lyrics? :S
haha agreed, she;s a sell out. but she's totally hot now lol |
the term sell out is very ignorant. you have to take into consideration that these peoples JOBS are to make music. so if you pass up a promotion at work, then you are not a sell out. otherwise, i'm pretty sure that youd do whatever you can to get a promotion (in most situations), or pay raise in any situation unless you are completely out of your mind. so, even if they change their music to make it easier to sell, then who the hell cares. listen to whate ever you listen to, let the people who like it listen to it, and let it be.POSTED: 04/19/2007 - 07:15 pm / quote |
RCalisto
: deanosaurx wrote:
i dont mind it. but a 10 out of 10 is totally exaggerated. 10 out of 10 is like....the beatles white album....maybe. id give it a 6.5 or maybe a 7.
metalisimortal wrote:
kop4 wrote:
"HEY HEY HEY I WANNA BE YOUR GIRLFRIEND!"
how can this possibly get 10 for lyrics? :S
haha agreed, she;s a sell out. but she's totally hot now lol
the term sell out is very ignorant. you have to take into consideration that these peoples JOBS are to make music. so if you pass up a promotion at work, then you are not a sell out. otherwise, i'm pretty sure that youd do whatever you can to get a promotion (in most situations), or pay raise in any situation unless you are completely out of your mind. so, even if they change their music to make it easier to sell, then who the hell cares. listen to whate ever you listen to, let the people who like it listen to it, and let it be. |
if u see making music as a job i dont think u are a musician at all..
i dont understand how avril went this low..
i mean.. once i saw a concert of her in tv.. and i was really impressed cus i had only listened to the music which is played on mtv and stuff..
and yet again i was impressed with that girlfriend song.. but not in a good way.. that song is just ridiculous..
i mean.. *clap clap* i wanna be ur girlfriend *clap clap* *a chord* *loop*
thats a major sell out..POSTED: 04/19/2007 - 08:27 pm / quote |
scarfacesuit
: clwy87 wrote:
Avril is HOT! I don't give a sh*ts a*s bout her songs and how crappy it is but man is she HOT! |
yeah, she is pretty good looking, but after listening to "Girlfriend" i honestly hoped that she was making fun of pop music rather than actually trying.
sorry avril... your previous singles were much betterPOSTED: 04/19/2007 - 08:30 pm / quote |
xdeline!
: i have to say i feel drastically sorry for derecky of sum 41.
he`s married to this chick!
and he actually makes decent music.
ughh...what if sum 41 and avril went on tour!?
"hey hey, you you, it makes no difference to me"
*shudders*POSTED: 04/19/2007 - 08:34 pm / quote |
RHCP603
: deanosaurx wrote:
i dont mind it. but a 10 out of 10 is totally exaggerated. 10 out of 10 is like....the beatles white album....maybe. id give it a 6.5 or maybe a 7. |
Yeah, or maybe Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon, it did stay on the charts for what, fourteen years? I heard girlfriend and i wanted to gouge my ears out. He other music at least had some type of message about life or at least told a good story. That is just crap.POSTED: 04/19/2007 - 08:37 pm / quote |
Musicislife539
: i hate it how she and little kids think there "punk" because they have a fast drumbeat and she died her hair pink. punk is about anti-establishment girlfriends are not establishments. the same with other bands like fall out boy and panic at the disco.POSTED: 04/19/2007 - 08:44 pm / quote |
vIsIbleNoIsE
: wtf is this "sellout" crap everyone is bringing in? it's like saying "n00b", it's not cool anymore! some people are simply happy making light, radio-friendly tunes with cliched lyrics. those people are called pop stars.
i.e. has the backstreet boys ever "sold out"?POSTED: 04/19/2007 - 08:52 pm / quote |
sk8ero131
: Okay when avirl ****ing lavigne gets a 10/10 you know there might be something wrong, maybe the sign of the apocalypsePOSTED: 04/19/2007 - 09:10 pm / quote |
Tortiss
: Overall rating: 10
Users rating: 2.7
Says it all.POSTED: 04/19/2007 - 09:23 pm / quote |
TheATXKiller
: Tortiss wrote:
Overall rating: 10
Users rating: 2.7
Says it all. |
Quoted for truth.POSTED: 04/19/2007 - 10:05 pm / quote |
xdeline!
: dude,
the bands don't get to choose their genre,
it's picked by their manager or whoever sells it.
don't blame the bands unless they themselves say their punk.POSTED: 04/19/2007 - 10:27 pm / quote |
bnull24
: Uhhh... is this review real? Did somebody actually write this?POSTED: 04/20/2007 - 12:38 am / quote |
Fat Cent
: how i feel on the subject is that at one point she was a great at making music. but to the people that say she sold out i can partially agree with. the whole point is that the main reason i got into avril lavignes music is that she stood for all that was against britney spears and christina aguilera. When I first heard this cd i was suprised. that's all. i thought the music would be better suited for hillary duff or ashlee simpson. avril has an amazing voice thats for certain, and she still shows it in songs like Keep Holding On, Innocence, and When Your Gone. But those all are slower songs. We all just hate that she's gone from the girl that was badass, who didn't give a damn what anyone thought, and played old school green day songs at concerts, to become the one thing that she's been mocking from the beginning... a very attractive blonde with a seemingly over-produced album. I'll continue to listen to the album because as I said she's great at making music. But it won't be the same as when I used to listen to it. We just have to accept that she's different now, and the Sk8er Girl is gone forever.POSTED: 04/20/2007 - 03:03 am / quote |
gtferet_41
: travis barker did some drumming in this album, thats probly why it sounds like blink 182 lolPOSTED: 04/20/2007 - 04:27 am / quote |
Nybb
: mfergel :
I demo'd the tracks on iTunes and the vocals hurt my ears. Man, what was with the nasally, caterwalling vocals? Reminds me of the snare on Metallica's St. Anger. |
Now there's an association I wasn't expecting.POSTED: 04/20/2007 - 04:55 am / quote |
Cheesepuff
: Avril Lavigne was a sell out in the 1st place. Now she's just being herself. Go read up on it. She sucks musically but she's damn hot though.POSTED: 04/20/2007 - 04:59 am / quote |
right
: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:gpfuxzy5
ldhe that review amazes me the most, almost 5 stars? Wtf?POSTED: 04/20/2007 - 06:25 am / quote |
SMK626
: lmao, the UG ratings keep lowerings.. 2.3... wow... bad review if I've ever heard one
and avril IS a sell out
I agree with RCalisto
If you see music as a job, ur not a musician at all.
I mean personally, i thought she was decent for her genre (even though I don't listen to it)
but then hearing this. it's pathetic, she's doing the whole sluttier look to get attention now. good for my dick and bad for my ears. she is in fact a sell-out.
i mean she was almost rapping in the interlude. come ****ing on. then the whole beats and guitars and omg.
complete crap and a sell-out and the UG ratings say so.POSTED: 04/20/2007 - 06:39 am / quote |
nobles_cranium
: | wtf is this "sellout" crap everyone is bringing in? it's like saying "n00b" | n00b was never cool.POSTED: 04/20/2007 - 12:03 pm / quote |
Jau_Peacecraft
: submitted review:
Ms. Lavigne, what you've just made is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
POSTED: 04/20/2007 - 12:15 pm / quote |
TJ1991
: Lyrics deserve maybe 2/10 at most, but the whole album is so damn catchy! I love it! And that's probably weird coming from an AC/DC fan...POSTED: 04/20/2007 - 02:55 pm / quote |
paramore_fans
: So what's the ****ing big deal if she sold out? Take note that Blink 182, Fall Out Boy, The Ataris, My Chemical Romance sold out too!!!
Selling out doesn't mean that YOU NEED TO SUCK FOR FAME AND MONEY but to grab MORE FANS AND APPRECIATE YOUR MUSIC YOU MADE FOR THEM? You don't ****ing get me!!!! that's right!!! the term SELL OUT is ****ing Ignorant!!!
And you know what the **** your problem is, you're so biased on negative comments on her!!! you only listened to her GIRLFRIEND, So I agree, it's not a great song. But my point here is to give other songs in this album a LISTEN and tell me what you think. Other songs in this album are better than Let Go and Under My Skin!!! Before you ****ing JUMP TO CONLCUSION that she sucks more and more!!!
You're ****ing idiots, you only judge girlfriend. Besides she's really musically talented. Do you want an evidence, go to youtube and watch her live performances. She played guitar, piano and drums SINCERELY!!!! Remember her My Happy Ending 3 years ago? She can really play despite usind basic chords but at least she have the guts to play sincerely And everytime she's doing live performances, she sings LIVE!!! because lip synching is not welcome for her, she can prove that she can sing!!!
That's why she's here on Ultiamte-Guitar and her songs are lovable to play on guitar thats' why she have 400 tabs!!!POSTED: 04/21/2007 - 06:39 am / quote |
minivia
: 10/10 i heard the Gilfriend song on Mtv and i wouldnt give it a 5/10 its terrible and she sold out what happened to a skater punk, not that i really carePOSTED: 04/21/2007 - 10:48 am / quote |
smidy
: paramore_fans wrote:
So what's the ****ing big deal if she sold out? Take note that Blink 182, Fall Out Boy, The Ataris, My Chemical Romance sold out too!!! |
They all suck too. Lose the crush and listen to some good music.POSTED: 04/21/2007 - 04:10 pm / quote |
RavenNevermore
: This album was.. different.
I would have liked it alot better if she didn't cuss so much.
The songs are good though.
It's okay. I gave it a 5. Not bad, not amazing.POSTED: 04/21/2007 - 04:16 pm / quote |
RavenNevermore
: Oh and everyone stop flaming, cause it's pointless. POSTED: 04/21/2007 - 04:17 pm / quote |
britishenglish
: Uhm...9.5/10. I'm a huuuge Avril fan, but this kind of disappointed me. Mostly the lyrics. A lot of them are catchy, but come on...I know she can do better.POSTED: 04/21/2007 - 05:30 pm / quote |
paramore_fans
: take note that there are 2 versions of this album.
1.) Is the edited or the white background I mean the picture above. Songs like Girlfriend, I can do Better, Everything Back But You and I Don't Have To Try were censored.
2.) Is the explicit or the pink background. Av sworn curse words in these 4 songs above. Plus the bonus DVD of The Making Of The Album.
Conclusion: It's much better if you will buy the pink version because it's much more worth buying.POSTED: 04/22/2007 - 02:16 am / quote |
paramore_fans
: Jau_Peacecraft wrote:
take note of paramore_fans' logic:
1.) Is the item in question of arguably good or bad content? This is irrelevant, it's not the bonus edition of the album, therefore it sucks, is not worth buying regardless if its by an artist who sucks complete ass.
2.) The bonus edition of the album makes everything worthwhile: the additional money the RIAA scams from you, the shitty content reinforced with explicit lyrics; it seems the RIAA and shitty artists alike think that curse words make everything cooler, regardless, again, of the shitty content.
Conclusion: You are a tool to simply go out and buy this album, deluxe edition or not, based on the above logic and many other's comments. The pink version is not more worth buyng simply because A.) someone else said so and B.) because of additional content
also, neither version is worth buying, logically, when considering uh...
YOU CAN DOWNLOAD IT FOR FREE.
when did the internet get flooded with retards still using training wheels? |
obviously you didn't get what I said Jau_Peacecraft, maybe you're right in some instances for downloading it for free. Yes I ****ing downloaded it before it had been released in the market. As a LOYAL FAN, you have the responsibility of BUYING THEIR ALBUMS TO SUPPORT THEM!!! You know why? How can an artist/band release another albums if they are BANKRUPTED in RECORD SALES? did you get what the **** I'm saying?
As for EXPLICIT and EDITED versions of the album, the purpose of releasing 2 versions is the EDITED doesn't contain curse words and kids are allowed to hear/enjoy this version
and the EXPLICIT are for the age 18 to above people that contain swear words plus a bonuse DVD.
and take note, not only Avril did this release, also Blink 182 way back in 2003. They release both explicit and edited versions. I'm also a blink 182 fan.
And finally I have a question for you, As if you're a loyal fan of Led Zeppelin. And you didn't buy any of their cds but instead downloading, how can they produce another album if they're bankrupted in record sales? did you get me?
you can't just say I'm a tool, but I'm a fan. If you're a true fan, you must ****ing buy their CDs. On Limewire, some of the songs are fake, but on the original, LIFETIME GUARANTEE, if you find the cd DEFECTIVE, you can ****ing exchange it for POSTED: 04/22/2007 - 10:51 pm / quote |
paramore_fans
: The Rollingstone Magazine review
You probably already know "Girlfriend," Avril Lavigne's hypercatchy, giant-sounding "Hey Mickey" tribute. Guess what? The rest of her third album does not venture into death metal, industrial house or gypsy swing. Like most everything she's done, The Best Damn Thing is big, big, big, with teen punk and ballads getting shots of pop steroids -- as well as big doses of her usual sass, anger and vulnerability. There are few surprises here, but The Best Damn Thing is totally fearless about targeting pop radio and rather expert in its execution. Most of the slow songs sag, but "Girlfriend," the smitten "Contagious" and a handful of other uptempos are monster pleasures. Lavigne probably can't get away with this sound for another record, but enjoy the sugar rush while it lasts.
POSTED: 04/23/2007 - 12:45 am / quote |
Jau_Peacecraft
: Obviously, you are immune to the concepts of sarcasm, humor, and differing opinions. People who tend to be immune to such concepts tend to increase the level of "drama lulz" as well. Please understand it.
I also do not understand you zeppelin reference, unless it was just purley used in a hypothetical statement. Hopefully, someone else will think your clever and post a comment in consensus with your opinion.
Also the definition of a true fan is very subjective. For instance, I could easily point out that 'true fans' of Avril Lavigne probably had a lobotomy while waiting in line at FYE, but that doesn't necessarily make it true.
Although it could be argued... oh sorry, my sense of humor again :\. POSTED: 04/23/2007 - 03:01 pm / quote |
Jau_Peacecraft
: I can post reviews too and look like a credible source who knows everything there is to know about this subject (news pundits have taught many well I suppose):
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Yo, what it is, my righteous punkerz? I just finished, like, totally watching TRL today and I found out about the new album by the best punk rock artist ever, Avril Lavigne! It's called The Best Damn Thing because, like, having the work "damn" in your title is, like, so PUNK RAWK!!!!! It's good to see her fighting the good fight with other anti-authority anarchists like Simple Plan, Plain White T's, Fall Out Boy and Good Charlotte to keep hardcore alive! The punk rock nation flips the bird and spits in the face of "The Man" anywhere and everywhere, because we're PUNK RAWK!!!!! We're rebellious and extreme because we knock over counters at grocery stores and push old people around because it's fun! I hope they continue to kick sand in the faces of these moronic faux-punk bands like Dead Kennedys, Black Flag, The Exploited, UK Subs, TSOL and Bad Religion - TRL doesn't play them because they're nothing but a bunch of dumb boy bands!
I really love the song "Girlfriend" because everything about the song makes me want to kick the person next to me in the face and mosh all day and night! I love lyrics like "She's like 'so whatever' / And you can do so much better / I think we should get together now / And that's what everyone's talkin' about" because they're so deep and profound and, like, speak to my inner soul and stuff. My mother loves the song "Keep Holding On" which is awesome - I never knew my mom was punk rock ... even more punk rock is that she stole the chorus from a 30 Seconds To Mars song, because stealing is like so uber-punk rock! All the other songs are about Avril loving and hating boys, which we all know have been the primary components of punk rock since 1984, when Avril was born. That's right, punks and punkettes - Avril Lavigne invented punk rock as soon as she came into this world! She put on a striped tie and Chuck Taylors and the first word out of her mouth was "Punk" - thus it was born! How cool is that? Long live Avril Lavigne and REAL punk rock forever!
...
Ah, who am I kidding? Not only was typing like that difficult, but I think I lost a few brain cells in the process. Avril Lavigne's "hardcore punk muzik" will have the same effect on any willing listener. I pretty much mentioned everything wrong with it in the guise of high praise in the last paragraph - overproduced pop music masquerading as punk, bad singing, irritating hooks, and lyrics so bad and juvenile they make "My Humps" look like a work of genius. If that sounds like a ringing endorsement to you, feel free to jump in, but don't say I didn't warn you. I know that both Avril Lavigne's previous albums are Multi-Platinum so it appears that people actually enjoy shallow fluff - I guess ignorance really is bliss.
Congratulations, America - thanks to you, Avril Lavigne and her husband, Deryck Whibley of bubblegum pseudo-punk band Sum 41, have just moved into a $9 million mansion. Meanwhile, there are millions of people homeless and starving around the world. It's good to see that we are supporting people that have their priorities straight - forget about those who are less fortunate, it's more important to live it up, drink champagne and eat caviar instead! Because we all know just how "punk rock" it is to put material possessions over everything else in life. Right on, Avril and Deryck - rock on with your bad selves!
In summary: Just when you think Avril Lavigne's music had hit rock bottom, she puts out The Best Damn Thing and surprises us once again with her utter ineptitude. You people who still think that you're listening to punk rock should take a look at the "I'm so cute" cover photo, the lyrics of the songs (listen everybody - she's "precious" AND a "princess"!) and the choreographed dancing in the video - then you should realize that she's no different from Britney Spears, Jessica Simpson, Ashley Tisdale and all the other pop tarts. I highly recommend looking away from the Top 40, MTV and other outlets controlled by huge media conglomerates - they're just looking to push what they can sell to the lowest common denominator. I'm struggling to find even one good thing to say about this album, but I just can't. If you have money burning a hole in your pocket, check out anything else instead - maybe Joan Jett & The Blackhearts or the new Nine Inch Nails album for starters.POSTED: 04/23/2007 - 03:10 pm / quote |
paramore_fans
: | Congratulations, America - thanks to you, Avril Lavigne and her husband, Deryck Whibley of bubblegum pseudo-punk band Sum 41, have just moved into a $9 million mansion. Meanwhile, there are millions of people homeless and starving around the world. It's good to see that we are supporting people that have their priorities straight - forget about those who are less fortunate, it's more important to live it up, drink champagne and eat caviar instead! Because we all know just how "punk rock" it is to put material possessions over everything else in life. Right on, Avril and Deryck - rock on with your bad selves! |
oh well what the **** is wrong with you jaupreacecraft? do you think that it's av's and deryck's fault why the other people are starving to death? we have nothing to do with them but to help them, Don't you know that Avril, Sum 41, Blink 182, My Chemical Romance, Fall Out Boy joined the charities and organizations of helping these people, so that makes them good people because they care about others!!!
All I want to say you that is to STOP UNDERESTIMATING AVRIL, maybe she's a better guitar player than you, not just guitar but drums, keyboard, sk8board, hockey. If you want an evidence, go to youtube!!!
before you say something jau_peacraft, think first!!!
POSTED: 04/25/2007 - 05:55 am / quote |
Limaj_daas
: paramore_fans.... i laughed my ass off by reading jau_pearcraft's posts. i have no idea why the hell u take them so literally. they're full of sarcasm man!!!! oh and ya avril has sold out... i was a sorta fan of hers and i have to say there are a few nice songs on the album but there are some songs that just irritate me so fukin much. oh and bout her being a crazy guitar player.... dunno much bout that man, see i would call her a crazy guitar player if i only knew how to strum powerchords and played 8ths at 60 but if i spent half my time trying to play summin other than random powerchords.... i would consider her a crappy guitar player.
but honestly, i do like a few songs... but the bad parts of the album are so bad..... i don't lik to talk bout em... oh and ya the lyrics ARE extremely immature... i would give em a 5/10...POSTED: 04/26/2007 - 11:23 am / quote |
kaiyamie
: k, i am an avril fan, and i agree with a lot of people, this doesn't really get a 10/10. But, the songs are pretty catchy on this, and it feels like a bit of a sugar rush, something to get you up and hyper (she said she was just trying to have fun). I don't think she was seriously trying too hard, but you still have to admit that her voice can go places where most people don't even dream of, she now can (kinda) dance, play hockey, skateboards and she can play 3 different instruments. I would give this an 8/10... lyrics may not be as "deep" but all the fast songs have catchy hooks, and the ballads show her amazing vocal range. And people, please dont get into the punk or not thing, avril said a couple of times she wasn't punk, or her music. oh yea, her songs are fun to sing... and a big FUCK YOU to a lot of people here who don't respect her( i dont mean everyone who gave her a bad review, just the little ****ers who cant except that she's more famous than they are). POSTED: 04/26/2007 - 09:43 pm / quote |
paramore_fans
: there are 2 versions of TBDT album
1st is the white background, no swearing of curse words in Girlfriend, I Can Do Better, Everything Back But You and I Don't Habe To Try. These songs were censored
2nd is the EXPLICIT or the PINK background, these 4 songs above have curse words + a BONUS DVD of the making of Album
Conclusion: You should buy the Explicit one, it's ****ing more WORTH BUYING!!!POSTED: 04/27/2007 - 01:19 am / quote |
DarkDallasNight
: I havent purchased this album yet because I do not have the money right now but from the songs I heard on aol..doesnt seem that bad....and ppl stop bringing up my chemical romance, falloutboy...and plz do not compare that crap to blink 182--blink rules....quit using sellout btw..we live in America people...this is capitalism so stop bitching about people who make money..i bet half of you aspire to make money as well so stop contradicting yourselves...bands and singers do this $hit for a living so stop jumping on the sellout bandwagon every time some band or singer gets successful...And who gives a $hit if Avril is changing her music...Sum 41's Chuck was an amazing tranformation in my eyes so maybe you guys should stop crying about bands/singers who change...metallica changed too (i wouldnt say for the better ) but it not bc they sold out..its bc they got older. You expect james to sing about the same things he sung about when hes 17? When I get some money..I will buy this album.!POSTED: 04/29/2007 - 03:37 pm / quote |
PunkSlut
: deanosaurx wrote:
i dont mind it. but a 10 out of 10 is totally exaggerated. 10 out of 10 is like....the beatles white album....maybe. id give it a 6.5 or maybe a 7.
metalisimortal wrote:
kop4 wrote:
"HEY HEY HEY I WANNA BE YOUR GIRLFRIEND!"
how can this possibly get 10 for lyrics? :S
haha agreed, she;s a sell out. but she's totally hot now lol
the term sell out is very ignorant. you have to take into consideration that these peoples JOBS are to make music. so if you pass up a promotion at work, then you are not a sell out. otherwise, i'm pretty sure that youd do whatever you can to get a promotion (in most situations), or pay raise in any situation unless you are completely out of your mind. so, even if they change their music to make it easier to sell, then who the hell cares. listen to whate ever you listen to, let the people who like it listen to it, and let it be. |
well considering that shes always bragging about doing her own thing and not acting like brittany and then pretty much doing everything she ever said she wouldnt and pretty much overhyping everything about herself and how 'different' and 'real' she is....i'd say she's a sell out. of course all artists grow and change but i'd agree that in her case...this is a step backwards. POSTED: 05/05/2007 - 08:34 pm / quote |
paramore_fans
: ^^no it's not a backward step, can't you see she likes having fun, 3 years ago since UMS album is released, her lyrics are so EMO, but now she's over the EMO phase because there's n oreason to be sad and she married Sum 41's Deryck Whibley, so therefore she deserves to be happier!!!POSTED: 05/07/2007 - 12:37 am / quote |
paramore_fans
: Once more, changing musical styles doesn't mean you're a sellout already, it's experimenting!!!
POSTED: 05/07/2007 - 12:38 am / quote |
clazz
: lol this is more than experimenting.
Why the hell she attempts to rap all the time is beyond me, particularly considering she was so determined that she's a punk icon. I just think this album is so poor. I think her older music is alright, but on this album, there are two songs I like. The rest aren't even average; they actually make my ears cry. One in particular where she squeals like a pigeon, I think it's the only song ever that has ACTUALLY made my ears hurt (you know, apart from hardcore trance and the like).
And really - 'she's like, so whatever, you could do so much better'... I have to say, that is the worst lyric anyone has ever written. It beats 'air hostess, I like the way you dress' by Busted. O_OPOSTED: 05/07/2007 - 10:08 am / quote |
Jau_Peacecraft
: paramount, the mere implication avril would be better than anyone else at anything, let alone myself, is just too hilarious to even contemplate without shitting my pants.
damnit paramound, now i made willy wonka on the floor. You better go get the hose.POSTED: 05/14/2007 - 06:31 am / quote |
paramore_fans
: ^^do you think that post is necessary here? get the **** out, if you hate av, go away!!!
Me as a fan of her, It's my obligation to defend her from haters.
For her ex fan who became haters like clazz,
GREAT MUSICIAN ISN'T SUPPOSE TO SING THE SAME SHIT OVER AND OVER AGAIN!!!
Think of this, Every Avril album is unique
Let Go = 2002, She's new to music business, great lyrica and music about her juvenile years.
Under My Skin = 2004, Most here are personal like a diary, sad songs and close to EMO. Her grandpa died thats' wh yshe wrote Slipepd Away, She broke up with her ex boyfriend that's why she wrote the ultimate masterpiece song that everyone loves even though haters MY HAPPY ENDING.
The Best Damn Thing = 2207, Like she said in the interview, she's over the personal and juvenile years because she wants to try something else like having fun and she's married to Deryck Whibley which produced the album. Rappring and cheerleady stuff are the things she never tried before in her past 2 albums, if Under My Skin is super serious, thsi album is Super fun!!! The misconception of the Girlfriend video is the ex fans assume that Avril stole Deryck that's why they hated her for that. In fact that this album is not as personal as UMS, this is having fun!!!
4th album is another material too according to my prediction.
Again, Great musicians should experiment different levels of music rather than staying the same and that's the true maturityPOSTED: 05/16/2007 - 01:17 am / quote |
TJ1991
: ^^
+1 so true
I bet most people who have rated this album so low have only heard one or 2 songs at most, and therefore havent heard When You're Gone, which is purely amazing.POSTED: 05/18/2007 - 06:02 am / quote |
TrooperDeth
: Unreal! She is a poser of the highest order. Worse then any teeny bopper before her. She has this attitude that she is better then the other pop poser chicks and the fact is that she is the same as Britney. It's pure bubblegum drivel. BTW, anyone else notice that that awful girlfriend song is to the tune of "Mickey" by Toni BasilPOSTED: 05/18/2007 - 09:58 am / quote |
poisongirl_92
: Well, I like some songs in the album..but I think it all proves it to be a good album...sure the others were greater but now as the article said she IS more happier...nicePOSTED: 05/18/2007 - 04:57 pm / quote |
m
: *Checked*
Stop flaming each other, you can debate without it. Also, if you're posting solely to bash and instigate arguments - don't.
That's not to say you can't be critical of her/her record of course. POSTED: 06/07/2007 - 02:24 pm / quote |
paramore_fans
: Please guys STOP UNDERESTIMATING Avril!!!
My question to you is CAN YOU WRITE BETTER SONGS THAN HERS?
There are only a few sincere rocker chicks in this generation!!!! Avril is one of them!!! She can also play instruments if you search her live performances at Youtube!!!POSTED: 06/23/2007 - 01:06 am / quote |
SimpleandClean
: paramore_fans wrote:
GREAT MUSICIAN ISN'T SUPPOSE TO SING THE SAME SHIT OVER AND OVER AGAIN!!!
Again, Great musicians should experiment different levels of music rather than staying the same and that's the true maturity |
O_o You're kidding me, right? You didn't just call her "a great musician"...did you? ROFLMAO.
paramore_fans wrote:
Please guys STOP UNDERESTIMATING Avril!!!
My question to you is CAN YOU WRITE BETTER SONGS THAN HERS?
There are only a few sincere rocker chicks in this generation!!!! Avril is one of them!!! She can also play instruments if you search her live performances at Youtube!!! |
When she came to Korea a few years back, I actually spit up money to go, and man, did I regret it or what? What kind of idiot comes to another country wearing a shirt saying "I LOVE DUBLIN"??? Plus, who cares if she can play her own instruments? She plays sucky power chords (honestly, anyone can play them) and her piano playing is a joke. Her voice is so overrated that during the performance, I was actually hoping that they'd just turn on the vocal track and let her lipsync. Have you heard her live version of "Sk8ter Boi"? Damn, it sucks ass and sounds nothing like her HIGHLY EDITED version.
POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 06:31 am / quote |
paramore_fans
: no, because you're not searching youtube live videos
I'm assume that you're her EX FAN WHO TURNED INTO HATER, admit it!!! but it's ok, become a hater whenever you want and we, fans dont' care!!!
As for the I LOVE DUBLIN shirt, it's just a ****ing shirt!! so what's the big deal? She can wear whenever the **** she wants
the only thing that matters is whenever she perform live, she gives so much 100% energy for us fans!!! she's so kind to her fans!!!, She give fan hugs and signatures with a smile to her face!!!
The reason why she never lip synch is because she can actually sing live SINCERELY!!!
Excuse me dude, she's a better live singer now!!! have you heard of When You're Gone? She is now at the same level of Kelly Clarkson when it comes to singing high notes!!!POSTED: 07/09/2007 - 06:05 am / quote |
java45
: Well for starters
rock on paramore_fans
for defending her.
This album is one of my most played.
you can bash and talk shit all you want
but i dont give a damn
just like she doesnt.
shes happy , so you have to expect the cd
to be up beat in tempo
yes her old work was badass too
but i find this record
more to my likings
its rediculously catchy
which is why i love it.
she can still write like she always had written
before and the perfect examples are , when your gone
innocence and the exclusive track I will be.
its really different from
UMS but its just fun
and please all you alleged
fans if you liked her before and knew
her music and the way she
is you wouldnt be bashing on what
she gots now.
she is a nice person
and i have met her before.
she does help all these charities
why do you think she sang on the new
INSTANT KARMA record
for charity or Knocking on heavens door.
im glad shes changed and doesnt
give a shit what anyone thinks about
her, all these bands turn into something
they are not because they are worried
what pussy little bitchy fans think
when they change their music. which is why
they always fall short.
she managed to get a way with this record
because its extremely catchy,i bet
she wanted to give off this bad of
somewhat impression to you people
so she can come back with her 4th album
and rock your worlds once again.
but im sure she will go back to her old days
and remember how it was when she was the one
bashing on these pop bitches.
avril is still avril just older
and happier
and hell for whoever said it would suck
if she toured with sum 41
F*** YOU! it would be bomb.
once an avril fan
always one POSTED: 07/09/2007 - 08:13 am / quote |
VegetaSWE
: I like the record...its her worst but still good...cant understand why so many hates avrile..i like her and love many of her old songs and even som on this album like "The Best Dam thing" and "Keep Holding on" are good and i am going to lisen to them a long time forward POSTED: 07/10/2007 - 03:34 pm / quote |
paramore_fans
: Hey Java45 and VegetaSWE, we are teammates here!!!
Let's amke a coalition against THE RUBINOOS!!!
to get rid of them, they are douchebags!!! grrr!!!
I tabbed hundreds of songs, most of them are Avrils', so please check them out!!!
I love playing guitar!!!POSTED: 07/11/2007 - 01:17 am / quote |
java45
: haha seriously
people just bitch just because
she tried something different.
oh god i swear like avril ive never ever in my entire life heard The Rubinoos.
they are just trying to get publicity that
they couldnt get when they were a so called band
and the ramones recorded that song before them so
they should be suied. or some thing.
the only reason they went after girlfriend
is because its top charted and is making some money.
its just wrong how society can be retartedly cruel
and i did download their socalled song and its nothing like it just the words "hey hey you you i want to be your" and thats it nothing else
guitar rocks
been playing as long as ive been listening
to avril, for a while . haha.POSTED: 07/11/2007 - 04:25 am / quote |
anechoic nebula
: paramore_fans wrote:
My question to you is CAN YOU WRITE BETTER SONGS THAN HERS? |
I have written better songs. AND I was tied up and locked in a cupboard, in a room that said 'BEWARE OF THE HAMSTER' on the door.POSTED: 07/14/2007 - 12:55 pm / quote |
anechoic nebula
: Sorry, couldn't resist. But seriously, I have written better songs than "Blah, blah, blah, blah, I wanna be your girlfriend, blah, blah, blah..." and I don't just think mine are better cos they use words like "serendipitous", they manage to make the listener think aswell as being catchy. I write about things that matter.POSTED: 07/14/2007 - 01:03 pm / quote |
rocknrolldogs
: best damn thing makes me worry...
Avril is a rock chick right?
Remember when that girl Gwen(no doubt)?
Used to give fans Rock songs about how girl life
now she givin us Crap .
I hope Arvil won't sell out to hip hop.
I don't know about y'all but I can't wait till this hip hop fad is over. I don't know how much my ears can take. as for this CD it still rocks. 8/10 (email me at anotherbandwithaplan@yahoo.com to bitch about the hip hop movement. [not like ya got anything betta do to anywayz dawg )POSTED: 07/18/2007 - 05:13 pm / quote |
A.U.S.T.I.N.
: hey, guys im sure avril is an INSANE guitar player. i mean she probly taught pete wentz and could own Paul Waggoner at sweep picking. POSTED: 10/16/2007 - 07:54 pm / quote |
ShalloW_AnarkI
: I just feel sorry for everyone that assumes that when someone starts out with a genre, they have to end up with that genre.... she was kinda young when she started y'know? and ppl change! maybe she felt like starting something new! I, personally, like it very much!POSTED: 10/25/2007 - 01:25 pm / quote |
boyan89
: she's hot...like really hotPOSTED: 10/25/2007 - 05:25 pm / quote |
boyan89
: When Your Gone is a pretty decent song though...it actually has meaning :OPOSTED: 10/25/2007 - 05:26 pm / quote |
Korzack
: She's gotten better this time around, to be honest. SHe's been one of those I don't really notice 'That one's actually kinda catchy' before realising it's a serious guilty pleasure. Ok, so I ain't gonna go buy the album simply because I'll need to wash afterwards with Dettol, but It's all right to listen to.
(and lol at her live cover of American idiot and Fuel... I actually liked em both better than the originals. See what I mean by guilty?)POSTED: 11/01/2007 - 08:40 am / quote |
jimmyjinx
: I was in chock when i read these reviews... I mean, how can you say that this is a 10/10 album?? even 5/10 is waaaay to much. I used to be a big avril fan, when Let go and under my skin came out. I know better now than to admire her, but i still keep some affection for her two first albums. But the little respect i still had for her just vanished away the first time i saw the girlfriend video. i mean wtf??? What's gotten into her?? what's that dance? And those lyrics? And that music? And that look?i was convinced that no one would appreciate that crap. BUT i discovered some poeple find it great. And theses reviews made me think that i had overestimated the ultimate-guitar users. So thanks to everybody who has commented and agrees with me, that deeply reassured me (i dunno if it means anything in english, im french). Never ever buy this dumb album!! The worst damn thing, in my opinion.
( im not saying she isnt allowed to change, its not her im mad at, it's the people who like that shit!!)
POSTED: 11/21/2007 - 06:13 am / quote |
gfalmarvez
: ,,hello pls ad me,,gfalmarvez@yahoo.com.ph,,,tnxPOSTED: 01/05/2008 - 01:29 am / quote |
gfalmarvez
: ,,wag nio kayang pag compitin yung dalawa let dem show der own talents kanya kanya yan kung cno nlang ang magaling,,!!POSTED: 01/05/2008 - 01:32 am / quote |
paramore_fans
: Avril is still way better than Paramore's cutie girl vocalsit Hayley Williams!!! Prettier, richer, more talented and more down to earth, Av lover her fans!!! hahahaPOSTED: 01/16/2008 - 04:58 am / quote |
hanns_rogels
: avril... is very good...
she is my idol...
so cute...pretty..ect..=)POSTED: 01/17/2008 - 02:55 am / quote |
nfldguitarist
: avrils album is to shallow to get even a 1/10 on lyricsPOSTED: 02/23/2008 - 08:47 pm / quote |
Riotgirrl*
: jimmyjinx wrote:
I was in chock when i read these reviews... I mean, how can you say that this is a 10/10 album?? even 5/10 is waaaay to much. I used to be a big avril fan, when Let go and under my skin came out. I know better now than to admire her, but i still keep some affection for her two first albums. But the little respect i still had for her just vanished away the first time i saw the girlfriend video. i mean wtf??? What's gotten into her?? what's that dance? And those lyrics? And that music? And that look?i was convinced that no one would appreciate that crap. BUT i discovered some poeple find it great. And theses reviews made me think that i had overestimated the ultimate-guitar users. So thanks to everybody who has commented and agrees with me, that deeply reassured me (i dunno if it means anything in english, im french). Never ever buy this dumb album!! The worst damn thing, in my opinion.
( im not saying she isnt allowed to change, its not her im mad at, it's the people who like that shit!!) |
I agree. Avril last album sucks
Too pop for me.
And she looks like a ***** in Hot video.
I prefer her oldest albumsPOSTED: 02/24/2008 - 06:23 pm / quote |
jacie.lin
: I think the ballads are the only good songs in this album.. when you're gone/keep holding on/innocence are a brilliant songs, maybe runaway too, but everything else is really mediocre compared to her previous albums..POSTED: 03/17/2008 - 07:03 pm / quote |
Lunty06
: 10/10 !
Who else just started laughing?
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