Released: Jul 7, 2009
Genre: Progressive Metal
Label: Sumerian Records
Number Of Tracks: 13
Born of Osiris returns with their new CD "A Higher Place", they have sure grown as a band and it shows.
A Higher Place
Reviewed by:
Kwonnie, on february 09, 2010 3 of 3 people found this review helpful
Sound: Born of Osiris have come a long way since their deviation from the metalcore sound they employed prior to getting signed by up-and-coming label Sumerian Records. In 2007, the band released 'The New Reign' - the twenty-one minute key to their current success and popularity. With this 2009 sophomoric effort, it seems the band have taken that popularity and used it to propel a new, rather different sound that seems to have had a 'make or break' impact on their fans. While their previous release was laden with breakdowns and heavy, in-your-face keyboard leads, extensively making use of the chug/melody duality popular among the 'sumeriancore' (a subgenre of progressive deathcore named for the label that tends to sign such acts) bands that have taken root in the prog/-core scene, their new album seems to have all but abolished their previous sound; their synth being reduced to something of background noise, their tone less heavy and far more trebly, and their breakdowns virtually non-existant.
One might assume the band had been planning something of the kind since their first release, considering the significant change in sound. As if their commerical act was a kind of fanservice to pave the way for a more mature, progressive feel. Whatever the case, let's dive into this album and pick apart the finer points of each track.
01. Rebirth: an intro and the shortest track on the album. Immediately you can hear the outro to 'The Takeover'; the last track on their previous album. If one were to listen to both albums all the way through chronologically, the difference would be noticeable however; it's not the most gapless transition. But points for creativity. It's not a very interesting intro though. Nor is it much of a transition to the next track. 7/10
02. Elimination: a pretty damned badass track. Right away you can hear the difference between AHP and TNR. The tone is far different. It's laughable how much one could visualize their choice in mixing (Drive: Down; Mids: Down; Bass: Way Down; Treble: WAY Up!). We get some heavy riffage right off the bat. A bit of dissonance, a bit of groove. The keyboard gets a a choir section and a sick little lick before the melodic passage near the middle of the song. Right after our understated lead, we get the most epic part of the song; a chuggy, minor third-intervaled thirty seconds with choir fade-ins and an amazing background piano. Honestly, it feels a little incomplete due to the piano not repeating its second bar set as the guitars fade out, but once one's ears grow accustomed to the lack of fill, a fan of this album might find this their favorite track. I wouldn't do anything different. 10/10
03. The Accountable: thirty seconds in and we get some sick, scratchy natural harmonic groove riffs. Though it appears the whole album's tone is a bit scratchy, it's quite a fun part to listen to and it seems to be the most out-of-time segment on the album. From this track, listeners can already tell this album is going to be a rather different experience. It already sounds rather progressive-oriented; the '-core' almost completely gone. On top of that, it's pretty easy to tell that BoO had been listening to more progressive metal acts than sumeriancore pioneers Veil of Maya since their last album. With a little less than a minute left on this track (the song length since their last album definitely hadn't changed much), we get a brilliantly epic lead and an outro that reminds us how hard it is to tell the guitar tracks apart for this particular release. 8/10
04. Now Arise: 3:53? That's dangerously close to four minutes, Born of Osiris! It seems this track is something of a nod towards their less-influential influences, including blast beats, more dissonant chords, and unmuted notes. In fact, there's quite a bit of unmuting on this album. While most bands - especially those in groove metal - focus on heavier, fully palm-muted measure-driven riffs and only use unmuting on a few tracks, BoO seems to use this guttural guitar sound on most of this album. At any rate, we get some more background keys and buildup to the minute-or-so outro that sounds straight out of a hip-hop verse. Honestly, the harsh screamed vocals at the end of this song could easily be interchanged with rapped lyrics! 8/10
05. Live Like I'm Real: first thing we hear? More unmuting. This actually goes for about a minute or so before we get a somewhat ridiculous-sounding break and more unmuting. Though BoO has abandoned their breakbeat sound, the transitions all start coming rather suddenly. Regardless, one might forgive this considering the amazing lead we get with three-quarters of a minute left accompanied by a backup guitar track echoing the end of the lead every other run-through and the perfectly-fitting bass drum to compliment it. 8/10
06. Starved: already, my impression would be that Born of Osiris has grown tired of their breakdowns and keyboard leads or are simply holding them off for a more TNR-like track, but the latter would be further unconfirmed by the end of this darker-sounding track. More unmuting with some evil lead in the background starts this song off... actually, this is most of the song. To be honest, there isn't much special about this track until the very '80's-sounding synth instrumentation that transitions beautifully into this song's outro. 7/10
07. Exist: my favorite track on this album. While most of this song (and every song on this album) is in 4/4, songs like this are evidence that BoO found a new trick to replace their rhythmically broken style from TNR. Mostly involving off-beat syncopation involving tossing a rest at the beginning of each riff. The majority of this song is minor third and tritone interval and harmonization or tapping (melodically or using the aformentioned style). Lots of cool, broken-sounding riffs and one of the closest things to a breakdown the more -core fans might find appealing, though it's about a bar and a half long. BoO also seems to be employing less conventional keys for the rhythm during the melodic parts (a common practice in mathcore). As with most tracks so far, the sickest part is probably the outro. I can only say 'go listen!', as I couldn't begin to describe the sheer amount of amazing this technical, energetic break BoO offers. 10/10
08. Put to Rest: aw, more unmuting? Well, it's not particularly impressive but I suppose it's not as static as it could be... okay, maybe it is. I do appreciate this new style but the sheer amount of simplistic riffing they toss in these verses makes me miss their old sound a bit. Regardless! This song does have some awesome leads and gives us a slow, epic outro that fades into another amazing effort for this release. 8/10
09. A Descent: immediately, we get a melodic intro worthy of remembrance with a sick drum fill to tie the repeat. The break transitioning this intro into the rest of the song has an amazing lead. Just past a minute we get an actual breakdown that still doesn't last more than a few seconds. The rest of this song is pretty much unmuting and jazzy keyboard passages. It ends a bit suddenly with what seems to be no conclusion, but this song definitely has some of the best melodies AHP has to offer. 9/10
10. A Higher Place: the title track and actually one of my lesser-liked songs. The main riff and its variants are generally dull and a bit nervewrecking. The lead past a minute in is kind of fun and saves the song from just being a general flop (what with its strange intervals and uninteresting theme). It does bring up a good time to mention that the vocals are astoundingly different from TNR. They're definitely more mature-sounding, yet at the same time throatier and screechier (their keyboardist actually does some backup vocals on this album as well). This is probably understandable considering how young the band was at their signing. 5/10
11. An Ascent: the lead for this song starts off rather appealingly but drops back for a more unusual interval. This then transitions into some unmuting that's actually rather interesting and groovy. Almost halfway through the song, we get a pretty cool lead you might expect at the end of one of these tracks and some entertaining verse afterwards. There's a part towards the end of the song that actually sounds a bit Catch 33-ish before it fades away. 8/10
12. Thrive: by now, one might find themselves tired of this new sound. In all honestly, this album could've cut off these last two tracks and still have been a solid album. Regardless, they're both worth a listen for those that appreciate this lean towards a more progressive sound and can tolerate the slight monotony. Personally, I didn't like much of this track until probably the last ten seconds. 6/10
13. Faces of Death: last track on this album and thirteenth in total. Like a few other tracks, it's not particularly memorable but does have some nice leads. Seems to just be something of an experimental track. Had they made some of this album gapless, the lack of power each individual (and very short) track would've been made up by the continuing theme of the previous. When one takes the time and listens to the lyrics, everything feels very sudden and rushed; or rather squeezed; into a small time frame. To be honest, this album feels more quantity than quality and it definitely detracts from the jawbreaking feel of the first album (which clocks in at less than 2/3's the length of this one). 6/10 // 8
Lyrics and Singing: The lyrics appear to be in the same vein as the first album. However the vocals are definitely delivered in a much more subtle way. Like a lot of progressive metal bands, the vocal tracks (provided by both main vocalist Ronnie Canizaro and keyboardist Joe Buras this time) are closer to another instrument than anything.
Truthfully, the delivery feels generally weaker than the previous album, the band having chosen to tone down the power and make the lyrics less audible. While they do feel more grown-up than TNR, they aren't nearly as engaging and they seem somewhat sloppier. // 8
Impression: Against their previous album, I like The New Reign better. It's more musical, more complex rhythmically, and (while not altogether a good thing) a little more commercial. Regardless, this release should at least satisfy the band's fans from the previous album. Again, it's a make-or-break deal with this one as it has quite a different sound. Those who love the sumeriancore sound that launched their career should stick to The New Reign and take a look at bands such as Veil of Maya or After the Burial. Those who appreciate the less commercial, more transitional vein of progressive music might find this album worth a listen.
Overall, the strongest tracks on this album seem to be Elimination, The Accountable, Exist, and A Descent. They're all worth listening to and I'd recommend trying them before the rest of the album. // 8
A Higher Place
Reviewed by:
DestructoX, on july 09, 2009 3 of 3 people found this review helpful
Sound: Born of Osiris returns with their new CD "A Higher Place", they have sure grown as a band and it shows. This CD is nothing like their debut CD "The New Reign", but that isn't a bad thing. They have left they break beat style, and incorporated a more technical and progressive style, but with the unique Born of Osiris twist to it.
Each song has awesome riffs which keep the album flowing, despite the short length of the songs. They could have made longer songs with all the riffs they had, but all in all, its still pretty amazing how it came out. Production I have to say is neither better nor worse. It could have been better, with more bass. But it still has a very unique sound. // 9
Lyrics and Singing: The vocalist tone has changed since "The New Reign", and is much better now than before. The keyboard player also does some more vocals than more which is nice. Born of Osiris started out really young, so their lyrics are about growing up and evolving since "The New Reign". In "A Higher Place", they have taken it to the next level against what blinds us. // 9
Impression: The intro track "Rebirth" starts of the album with a recognizable tone from the song "The Takeover". My favorite songs on "A Higher Place" are Now Arise, Starved, Exist, Put to Rest, An Ascent and Thrive. Some songs fade away, and end very abruptly which is kind of a let down for me, but its better than it repeating and being boring. // 8
A Higher Place
Reviewed by:
Metal4themasses, on july 09, 2009 2 of 5 people found this review helpful
Sound: Born of Osiris is at the top of their game, realeasing their new CD, A Higher Place, on July 7th, 2009. It's pounding riffs and slower breakdowns can only be mastered by the band itself. While metal is the same in most bands, Born of Osiris has taken it multiple steps further, mastering melodies and still kicking you square in the nuts with bold, machine gun firing leads. There is one draw back, though--the band's use of the keyboard is a little bit boring, and it will take time for many metalheads to get used to it. But everything else is great! // 10
Lyrics and Singing: Ronnie Canizaro's vocals have only improved. His gutteral screaming pummels you deep into the ground and doesn't let up. The searing sound of Ronnie's vocals are very recognizable, making your ears bleed with every second. His vocals fit every metalhead's requrerments. // 10
Impression: This is Born of Osiris's best CD yet, dominating 2007's 'The New Reign' and still obtaining their original style. In fact, their style is so original, that you can't really compare them with many other bands. I dislike the keyboards more in this CD than their last, but even so, it's well worth your money! My favorite song is Now Arise. Go check it out! // 10
I'm test-listening to it right now, and it doesn't sound all that bad, but I'm missing some of the harmonic parts TNR had. It's still a ****ing kickass album though.
Loved the first record, this one is not good. All the songs seem pasted together, the guitar tone is harsh, trebly, and doesn't sit well in the mix. Cool parts, but overall, poor songs. They really missed it with this one, don't even download it for free.
Quantonyne :
I think they sound a LITTLE like The Faceless...and their CD art looks a LOT like Planetary Duality.
I totally agree... i think the record was produced by a memeber of the faceless... could b wrong, that mite have been there last one.. not sure but regardless PROGRESSVIE DEATH METAL at its BEST! LOVE THE NEW ALBUM!!!! "The composure of my soul is harmonized by the sounds that travel into me!!!!"
I was actually wondering during the performance why they were on the summer slaughter tour? its like there's a "metal" shaped cookie cutter somehwere.... and the whole being pro maryjane thing??? I couldnt hear any of that influence personally.
this one disappointed me. there was one breakdown. it was in live like im real. which is one of the greater songs off the cd. along with exist and now arise. but other than that, huge disappointment. doesnt deserve the 10 the first reviewer gave.
Just because they decided to put out an album that was really progressive and maybe took more than one listen to really get into doesnt make them shit.
TNR was nice but LOLBREAKDOWN - KEYBOARD SOLO - BREAKDOWN - KEYBOARD SOLO - LOLANOTHER BREAKDOWN only stays interesting for so long (about 21 minutes and 31 seconds to be more precise)
Just because they dont pose in front of forests, while frowning with their arms folded, wearing black tank tops, doesn't mean they aren't metal.
Scene? Stop judging bands based on their image, it's not only narrow-minded but hilariously misguided.
Who said I was judging bands based on their image? Aside from the obvious fallacy inherent in that statement (insofar as a scene band will go to great lengths to enhance its image for the sake of popularity, therefore judging one based on its image is perfectly valid) all of these bands have the same absurdly boring formula. Pseudo death metal (rip off a few Suffocation or Dying Fetus riffs) followed by a hip hop beat "breakdown" for 35 minutes does not make a listenable album or an interesting band. Widdling D harmonic minor doesn't make you "technical" or break the monotony, either.
Quantonyne :
I think they sound a LITTLE like The Faceless...and their CD art looks a LOT like Planetary Duality.
I totally agree... i think the record was produced by a memeber of the faceless... could b wrong, that mite have been there last one.. not sure but regardless PROGRESSVIE DEATH METAL at its BEST! LOVE THE NEW ALBUM!!!! "The composure of my soul is harmonized by the sounds that travel into me!!!!"
If im not mistaken, I believe michael keene (guitarist from the faceless) produces most of Sumerian's bands
they are from near my area in the suburbs of chicago where they started. they started as a scene band and even though I kinda like their music now they will always be a scene band. IMO the best stuff they did was as yourheartengraved and rosecrance. they just had cooler sounding synth and electronic stuff.
they are from near my area in the suburbs of chicago where they started. they started as a scene band and even though I kinda like their music now they will always be a scene band. IMO the best stuff they did was as yourheartengraved and rosecrance. they just had cooler sounding synth and electronic stuff.
They are not a scene band now. And what is your reasoning for saying they will always be a scene band? That is pretty dumb.
i saw this band live last september and they were so good. i can honestly say they sounded better live than they did on the album. which is very hard to do. amazing band. mediocre reviews. i will pick this cd up
Are there people seriously bitching about this not being like TNR? Come on now, that album had too many breakdowns and boring sections. This is way better and way more interesting. The band is much more technically proficient this time around.
I haven't given this a good listen yet. I heard two songs that were on their myspace page a few weeks ago and it wasn't what I expected at all. What I did hear I liked. I loved TNR, so I'm pretty curious about this.
i like that the CDs play right into each other...last song on TNR having the same riff as the first song on this one.
i haven't grown to like this one as much as TNR, but i still think it's a decent CD. what you all should do is go get the new re-release of Rareform by ATB.
BoO has always managed to make interesting melodies, but they **** it with the breakdowns. A lot Sumerian Records bands do that.
Veil of Maya, BoO, and After the Burial fall victim to this foolishness. Well, AtB has managed to step away from that in Rareform, but still.
The Faceless are an exceptional exception to that.
Paddles wrote:
Valderama wrote:
How is it faux-metal?
Just because they dont pose in front of forests, while frowning with their arms folded, wearing black tank tops, doesn't mean they aren't metal.
Scene? Stop judging bands based on their image, it's not only narrow-minded but hilariously misguided.
Who said I was judging bands based on their image? Aside from the obvious fallacy inherent in that statement (insofar as a scene band will go to great lengths to enhance its image for the sake of popularity, therefore judging one based on its image is perfectly valid) all of these bands have the same absurdly boring formula. Pseudo death metal (rip off a few Suffocation or Dying Fetus riffs) followed by a hip hop beat "breakdown" for 35 minutes does not make a listenable album or an interesting band. Widdling D harmonic minor doesn't make you "technical" or break the monotony, either.
I hate to admit it, but this describes the majority of the bands on the Sumerian Records roster quite well.
Ok, maybe not. Blackguard is some strange pirate-metal madness. Like a viking-death-power metal band. It's kinda entertaining. They influence me to drink some delicious ale.
I See Stars is scene faggotry to the max. Sorry, nothing experimental or hardcore about them.
And everything else that I haven't explained falls into Paddles faux/scene metal category.
Well, I listened to the myspace tracks, and despite how terrible they were. I was like "ahh, I think I'll still purchase the new album." I really liked The New Reign (despite terrible production quality) because it was unique. It had a lot of personality. This album comes off as incredibly cookie-cutter. I've given this cd a few listens and I honestly can't find anything that I find interesting. It seems like all the newer cds coming out that bands are just trying to sound like each other. It's really disappointing. For the most part I find all of the bands on sumerian really interesting, I think I've lost all love for this band. I was hoping they'd continue where they left off I guess, but continue to refine the unique sound they originally created for themselves.
I have listened to some bullshit bands like dying fetus, origin, suffocation...etc. Their songs are mostly very unchanging as far as rhythm and guitar parts go. No comparison to Born of Osiris.
Who said I was judging bands based on their image? Aside from the obvious fallacy inherent in that statement (insofar as a scene band will go to great lengths to enhance its image for the sake of popularity, therefore judging one based on its image is perfectly valid) all of these bands have the same absurdly boring formula. Pseudo death metal (rip off a few Suffocation or Dying Fetus riffs) followed by a hip hop beat "breakdown" for 35 minutes does not make a listenable album or an interesting band. Widdling D harmonic minor doesn't make you "technical" or break the monotony, either.
Scene is basically a judge on how a band looks (ex: gay hair, tight jeans) in addition to listening to shitty screamo hardcore shit. So yes, you are judging on how BOO looks, which is no way close to scene. BOO definitely shows in this album that they are not hardcore in any way. They have like 2 breakdowns, and that isn't even bad. The rest is progressive, ever changing death metal. You are just an elitist thrash metal faggot, who thinks a song should be slayer blast beats + trashy guitar riffs for 8 minutes. I get really bored of that, I need balance between slow and fast and BOO really exemplified that well in this album. And the whole suffocation/dying fetus thing was just ****ing stupid. So ANY harmonized riff written by a band other then the ones you named is ripping off? How about influenced? That's a way better word choice numb nuts.
I completely agree with the above comment. When you go to listen to this album, turn it up. Listen to it loud and don't just hear it, listen to every part of the song and each element. everything they have is so tight and clean and different from each other piece of the band. I can't agree more that Born of Osiris is EPIC. These songs all make me think of a soundtrack to a journey. I'm a firm fan of TNR and it's more breakdown influence but only because they know how to create more complex breakdowns than you would typically hear in hardcore bands. That's what every Progressive Deathcore band has the ability to do. They have creativity in writing and playing this music. But I will say this album is completely different. This band has really grown into their sound and they're all extremely talented musicians. And I've actually hung out with them and they're pretty chill dudes, except for slight party mode after their set. I'm too laid back for that haha. Regardless this album is ****ing amazing. Listen to the end of Faces of Death.
I think they sound a LITTLE like The Faceless...and their CD art looks a LOT like Planetary Duality.
Sumerian Records has an artist they hired to do artwork for all of their bands. That is why it is so similiar.
thirdeye_15 wrote:
Quantonyne :
I think they sound a LITTLE like The Faceless...and their CD art looks a LOT like Planetary Duality.
I totally agree... i think the record was produced by a memeber of the faceless... could b wrong, that mite have been there last one.. not sure but regardless PROGRESSVIE DEATH METAL at its BEST! LOVE THE NEW ALBUM!!!! "The composure of my soul is harmonized by the sounds that travel into me!!!!"
The Cd was produced by Zuess at Planet Z Studios (Hatebreed, Whitechapel, Shadows Fall, etc).
Stop comparing TNR and this new album. Both are different. Bands mature. Get over it. Listen to it and enjoy it for what it is.
I like this album, but in my opinion, the technical level has gone down. It is not as all catchy as I thought it would be. Though I like the vocals a heck of a lot more now.
And I hear people saying they've matured as a band?
Can someone explain that to me?
Despite the fact that BOO is infamous for their breakdowns (i.e. the Bow Down intro, or 40 seconds into Open Arms ) and this album contains barely any.. I still think this is a big step forward for this band. I think they had a good idea by keeping their songs short because that makes their live show much more satisfying. When I listen to a band live, i wanna hear as many songs as they have time for. And it's true that this album is much more Progressive and less Deathcore(which i am a big fan of) but that just shows their versatility as a band. So, i enjoy both the new album as well as The New Reign because they're two different sounds and listeners will have a lesser tendency to get bored of BOO because of that. BTW the members of the band aren't scene at all, but ive noticed about 90% of the people who listen to them are scene as ****, so that kind of makes them a scene band i guess. and i agree with whoever commented on Paddles being an elite thrash faggot, because BOO is definately not fake Metal in any way, shape or form. and Sumerian Records is for the most part a really good label with many talented bands on it. After the Burial, The Faceless and Veil of Maya are all very skilled musicians and songwriters. The only band that has no reason for being on Sumerian is definately I See Stars. I played a show with them recently and they have good stage presence but it's the kind of shit that little 16 year-old scene sluts eat for breakfast everyday... but i digress. This album was just as good as TNR and i cant wait to see what direction they move to with their next album. And their performance at Dirtfest was more than satisfying i must say.
i think that this album is a BIG step up for BOO. despite the hate im gonna get for this, but i thought "The New Reign" was ****ing terrible. The only 2 catchy parts of that entire album are the breakdown in abstract art, and the main riff of brace legs. everything else was just a bunch of shit. and its not entirely the bands fault, the vocals were bad sure, but michael keene did a lot of writing on that album and it wasnt good in any way whatsoever. the production quality on the last album was also pretty ****ing bad. but once again, not the bands fault because michael keene also recorded it in his studio for the band. (i dont like bashing michael keene because the faceless is probably in my top 5 all time favorite bands but anything outside the faceless for him just doesnt work for me) I think "A Higher Place" definately shows more maturity as band lyrically, vocally, and instrumentally. I enjoy this album so much more than their last, and knowing that a band who was sort of ok growing into a band that is really good made the purchase way more worth it.
This new cd blows The New Reign out of the water in my opinion. And all those people who keep saying that they don't like this cd because there are less breakdowns are retards. The New Reign was a good album with a lot of good melodies but it seemed as if they were holding back on the melodies and replaced them with breakdowns. The breakdowns were well timed and powerful but to tell the truth everyone should've seen this coming. Most bands hold back originality and just breakdown to the max to appease fans and gain popularity in the beginning. Then when they have a set fan base they either show their true colors or they just comform to what everyone else is doing because it makes money. I'm glad BoO decided to take the first route and show their true colors because this new album is an epic classic. The breakdowns were replaced with more driving riffs and the keyboard took a back seat to the melodic guitars. Though I wish they would've used the keyboard a little bit more on this album, I liked how they still used it to make certain parts more epic by adding to the atmosphere. There was not one song on this cd that was bad. The vocals were exceptionally better on this album as well as the production. It seemed like they layered more stuff in the recording process than on the last album to give it a fuller sound. The placement of the vocals was also well done. All in all who cares if they appeal to scene fags? It doesn't mean they suck. I bet all the scene faggots hate this cd because it's too progressive and there's no breakdowns that there faggot asses could dance to. lol
at first i thought the same way as a lot of people here... like the melodies just werent as unique or catchy anymore and honestly i felt disappointed. now that ive listened more, there are actually some really good songs here that will grow on you. at least theyre changing and trying new things. good songs with that BOO melody twist on this album are:
Faces Of Death
Now Arise
Exist
The Accountable
Elimination
Thrive
Starved
Live Like I'm Real
im a big fan of music in general and i like born of osiris because they manage to stand out from the rest of the mediocrity that is todays metal scene. TNR was brutal in the best possibly ways,(abstract art definitely has the most brutal breakdown i've ever heard), but more importanly, it was unique. this new album isnt bad, but so far it hasnt managed to wow me yet. i dunno, maybe with a few more listens i might hear something i like.
P.S. production on this cd is AWFUL! i dont get how anyone can say that its better than TNR's signature sound...I can barely make out what they're playing half the ****ing time. way too much overdriven bullshit.
p.S.S New american gospel had a signature sound, and then sacrament came out...lets hope BoO doesnt go the way of LOG
this album was ok, i like the new reign soo much better.. A higher place is alot less "progessive" than there 1st album.. On most of the tracks the rhythm tones are really muddy.. melodic stuff is still pretty sick tho, imo i liked the vocals better on TNR, his screams really kinda cover up my favorite parts, which are drums n guitars, awesome drumming btw
P.S. production on this cd is AWFUL! i dont get how anyone can say that its better than TNR's signature sound...I can barely make out what they're playing half the ****ing time. way too much overdriven bullshit.
p.S.S New american gospel had a signature sound, and then sacrament came out...lets hope BoO doesnt go the way of LOG
The production for TNR was a litlle bit cleaner but I heard everything they were playing. TNR also wasnt a signature sound at all. You can't build a signature sound from one cd. Don't even try to compare this band to Lamb of God. That's something that someone with a lack of knowledge for music would say. BOO has shown more technicality, cleanliness, and progressiveness than LOG. Try actually listening to the album loud and pay attention.
this album was ok, i like the new reign soo much better.. A higher place is alot less "progessive" than there 1st album.. On most of the tracks the rhythm tones are really muddy.. melodic stuff is still pretty sick tho, imo i liked the vocals better on TNR, his screams really kinda cover up my favorite parts, which are drums n guitars, awesome drumming btw
TNR was a good album but how can you possibly say that album is more progressive? The cd was full of breakdowns and stop and starts. Every song on the new cd is progressive whether you like it or not. The melodic riffs were one of a kind and the heavy parts fit perfectly and were easy to hear and not muddy whatsoever. Get a new cd player or whatever
P.S. production on this cd is AWFUL! i dont get how anyone can say that its better than TNR's signature sound...I can barely make out what they're playing half the ****ing time. way too much overdriven bullshit.
p.S.S New american gospel had a signature sound, and then sacrament came out...lets hope BoO doesnt go the way of LOG
The production for TNR was a litlle bit cleaner but I heard everything they were playing. TNR also wasnt a signature sound at all. You can't build a signature sound from one cd. Don't even try to compare this band to Lamb of God. That's something that someone with a lack of knowledge for music would say. BOO has shown more technicality, cleanliness, and progressiveness than LOG. Try actually listening to the album loud and pay attention.
this album was ok, i like the new reign soo much better.. A higher place is alot less "progessive" than there 1st album.. On most of the tracks the rhythm tones are really muddy.. melodic stuff is still pretty sick tho, imo i liked the vocals better on TNR, his screams really kinda cover up my favorite parts, which are drums n guitars, awesome drumming btw
TNR was a good album but how can you possibly say that album is more progressive? The cd was full of breakdowns and stop and starts. Every song on the new cd is progressive whether you like it or not. The melodic riffs were one of a kind and the heavy parts fit perfectly and were easy to hear and not muddy whatsoever. Get a new cd player or whatever
woah man relax man its just a cd lol r u an angry 12 yr old or something? TNR was more progressive because everything fit well together.. it was also a "breakbeat" genre.. the screaming covered everything up on a higher place imo
"BOO" is perhaps one of the stupidest acronyms I've ever seen. Are all you people too lazy to type "Born of Osiris"? Jeez man.
Anyways, I thought this was a major step up from their last record (which was downright terrible and had now flow whatsoever). Fewer breakdowns, more melodies, and better vocals helps for more cohesive songs.
I dunno what you're all whining about as far as the production is concerned. Sounds just fine to me.
No I am not an angry little 12 yr old. Guess what though, since when does the definition of the word progressive mean everything fits together. I play guitar, I have recorded music and I actually know music so to sit there and tell me a breakdown driven record is progressive is downright stupid. Though, that record was better than most other deathcore albums out there it still had a lot of generic parts to it.
I am not an angry little 12 yr old. But the fact still remains that although you like to pretend to kno what you're talkin about by saying words like "progressive" in the wrong context. Since when does the definition of the word progressive mean everything fits together?
Progressive- making progress toward better conditions; employing or advocating more enlightened or liberal ideas, new or experimental methods
Though their last cd was good, it was not that much different from everyone else trying to do the same thing. No offense but that record pretty much consisted of breakdown, breakdown, keyboard part, breakdown. Not every track was like that but that was pretty much the main layout. This new cd has RIFFS. Who needs breakdowns all the time? Breakdowns aren't progressive and they never will be unless they are taken out of the concept that they have to be 4/4 all the time. I'm not an angry, whiny, little kid. In fact, I think I just proved that I know more about music than you or at least have a better ****ing vocabulary
I am not an angry little 12 yr old. But the fact still remains that although you like to pretend to kno what you're talkin about by saying words like "progressive" in the wrong context. Since when does the definition of the word progressive mean everything fits together?
Progressive- making progress toward better conditions; employing or advocating more enlightened or liberal ideas, new or experimental methods
Though their last cd was good, it was not that much different from everyone else trying to do the same thing. No offense but that record pretty much consisted of breakdown, breakdown, keyboard part, breakdown. Not every track was like that but that was pretty much the main layout. This new cd has RIFFS. Who needs breakdowns all the time? Breakdowns aren't progressive and they never will be unless they are taken out of the concept that they have to be 4/4 all the time. I'm not an angry, whiny, little kid. In fact, I think I just proved that I know more about music than you or at least have a better ****ing vocabulary
I am not an angry little 12 yr old. But the fact still remains that although you like to pretend to kno what you're talkin about by saying words like "progressive" in the wrong context. Since when does the definition of the word progressive mean everything fits together?
Progressive- making progress toward better conditions; employing or advocating more enlightened or liberal ideas, new or experimental methods
Though their last cd was good, it was not that much different from everyone else trying to do the same thing. No offense but that record pretty much consisted of breakdown, breakdown, keyboard part, breakdown. Not every track was like that but that was pretty much the main layout. This new cd has RIFFS. Who needs breakdowns all the time? Breakdowns aren't progressive and they never will be unless they are taken out of the concept that they have to be 4/4 all the time. I'm not an angry, whiny, little kid. In fact, I think I just proved that I know more about music than you or at least have a better ****ing vocabulary
but the fact still remains, what originality came out of this record?
this cd is wicked, i dont agree with the main revue, saying "the keyboard parts get boring", i think it subtle, accenting the guitar parts, giving it a "shinobi" or some kind of ninja videogame feel to it, this band, along with alot of other technical metalcore groups like after the burial, and misery signals etc... have made alot of metal music seem boring to me now... i used to think drop C chugging riffs and sweep picking was where its at... but bands like this are making alot of other styles of metal music obsolete, in my opinion anyways... im sure alot of so called "metalheads" will cry that this band is too modern sounding, and bitch about superficial bullshit... theres metal music , and theres progressive... and this is truly progressing towards something, id like to think its progressing towards metal becoming something more than c tuning, razorbacks, pointy beards and sleeveless shirts... and whole lot of misguided, and fabricated anger... a higher place is my favorite album right now, im sure that will change, as long as open minded people continue to make music that cant be put in a category... yeah sure, its progressive, or metal, or hardcore, or whatever the hell u wanna call it... its all of those things, i guess... its just good music, and its so much different than 97% of whats out there... stop focusing on genre and just listen... i think these guys are amazing, and i cant wait for the next record
I am not an angry little 12 yr old. But the fact still remains that although you like to pretend to kno what you're talkin about by saying words like "progressive" in the wrong context. Since when does the definition of the word progressive mean everything fits together?
Progressive- making progress toward better conditions; employing or advocating more enlightened or liberal ideas, new or experimental methods
Though their last cd was good, it was not that much different from everyone else trying to do the same thing. No offense but that record pretty much consisted of breakdown, breakdown, keyboard part, breakdown. Not every track was like that but that was pretty much the main layout. This new cd has RIFFS. Who needs breakdowns all the time? Breakdowns aren't progressive and they never will be unless they are taken out of the concept that they have to be 4/4 all the time. I'm not an angry, whiny, little kid. In fact, I think I just proved that I know more about music than you or at least have a better ****ing vocabulary
but the fact still remains, what originality came out of this record?
hm, a whole lot of NOTHINGGGGG.
good one....super original. Thank god ur here to save the day with ur witty comebacks. Give me a reason why it's not original and we can have a civilized discussion
i think they are bringing a lot to the table. the new reign wasnt as technical, but born of osiris is leaps and bounds better in terms of musianship than alot of other breakdown wielding bands out there.
Saw these guys live a week ago and now they're one of my favorite bands. They are very impressive live and a must-see in my opinion. They now also have Jason Richardson, who left All Shall Perish, and I think he's going to help make them just that much better.
Also, the new album is leaps and bounds better than The New Reign.
As much as I like The New Reign and The Discovery, this album just never grabbed my attention. It doesn't have the catchiness of the previous nor the shred of the latter. Just, meh
I am not an angry little 12 yr old. But the fact still remains that although you like to pretend to kno what you're talkin about by saying words like "progressive" in the wrong context. Since when does the definition of the word progressive mean everything fits together?
Progressive- making progress toward better conditions; employing or advocating more enlightened or liberal ideas, new or experimental methods
Though their last cd was good, it was not that much different from everyone else trying to do the same thing. No offense but that record pretty much consisted of breakdown, breakdown, keyboard part, breakdown. Not every track was like that but that was pretty much the main layout. This new cd has RIFFS. Who needs breakdowns all the time? Breakdowns aren't progressive and they never will be unless they are taken out of the concept that they have to be 4/4 all the time. I'm not an angry, whiny, little kid. In fact, I think I just proved that I know more about music than you or at least have a better ****ing vocabulary
BOO rules, both albums kick ass