Released: Nov 13,2012
Genre: Alternative metal, Experimental Rock
Label: Reprise
Number Of Tracks: 11
"Koi No Yokan" is everything that you'd expect from Deftones' fourth post-"White Pony" offering.
Koi No YokanFeatured review by: UG Team, on november 17, 2012 3 of 4 people found this review helpful
Sound: Back in the early 2000s, nu-metal had reached its commercial (if not critical) peak. Limp Bizkit's "Rollin'" had gone straight in at #1 on both sides of the Atlantic, while the polished angst of Linkin Park's "Hybrid Theory" was selling millions. But, while these second wave acts were turning the genre into a commercial pop viability, Deftones, one of the groups who had pioneered the form during the 1990s, were about to take a quantum leap away from nu-metal territory and into something very different. White Pony, the band’s 2000 record, achieved something seemingly impossible; effectively creating a heavy metal soundscape album, which segued from ambiance to brutality, often within a single musical frame.
12 years on, and the heavy metal musical landscape has changed. As nu-metal imploded in the years after the genre's commercial peak, many of its star bands quickly became nostalgia acts. Yet, Deftones, over all of their contemporaries, have persisted, consistently innovating and pushing the envelope. "Koi No Yokan" is the band's seventh full length album, and feels like the sound of what they started with White Pony taken to its logical conclusion. As the opening riff of "Swerve City" drops, the aural impact is something akin to being repeatedly twatted in the face with a giant spade. Yet, as Chino Moreno's vocals, accompanied by a rich palette of synthesizers, soar over the doomy intro, you could be forgiven for thinking that you're listening to a cover of a mid-period Pink Floyd track, albeit in standard C tuning. It's a juxtaposition that persists throughout "Koi No Yokan's" 51 minutes and 40 seconds of runtime, and one which makes for a consistently compelling listen.
"Koi No Yokan" is an immersive experience. It is a record that you can get lost in for days, with the impact punishingly heavy slabs of riffage that the band unleashes at any given moment always adding to, rather than detracting from what is a lusciously detailed sonic panorama. Such is the cohesion of the album, which effortlessly transitions from heavy to light, dark to euphoric, that it at times feels like, dare say it, a concept album. // 10
Lyrics and Singing: For a record is so sonically layered, it is strange that the lyrics on "Koi No Yokan" seem so much about peeling back what is on the surface. Deftones, in the past, had always seemed to write in abstracts. Passenger, from White Pony for example, is ostensibly a song about dogging, yet is as much an allegory for feelings of misplaced security and control. On "Koi No Yokan" though, such dualities are stripped away in favor of lyrics which are far more explicit in their meaning:
"Shedding Your Skin, Showing Your Texture.
Time to Let Everything Inside Show.
You’re Cutting All Ties Now and Forever
Time to let everything outside you"
As if in support of this, Moreno gives some of the cleanest vocal performances of his career on this record; the blood-curdling, vulture-like scream that had characterized Deftones' earlier work is only employed here when absolutely necessary. Part of the group’s success as a whole has always been their control of dynamics, but Chino's vocals suggest here, a mastery of the sonic landscape in a way that no other Deftones record has ever expressed. // 10
Impression: "Koi No Yokan" is everything that you’d expect from Deftones' fourth post-"White Pony" offering. And, given the caliber of that record, meeting those expectations is certainly no bad thing. Dynamic, ambitious and emotive, knowing just when to cool off and when to kick the listener's face in, the disc is a reaffirmation that Deftones were always, and still are, the best band of the nu-metal crop and the most innovative metal act of the post-2000s.
Koi No Yokan
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Jessica-Lyn, on january 24, 2013 0 of 1 people found this review helpful
Sound: "Koi No Yokan" is, essentially, a hybrid of "Saturday Night Wrist" and "Diamond Eyes" and it does not disappoint. Very rarely when I listen to a new album does it blow me away. Only a select few from my memory have ever made me as giddy as a school girl on the first listen. This is one of them, upon the first listen I knew all the songs, some of the lyrics, and I was blown away. The opener, "Swerve City", has blaring, heavy instrumentals mixed with Chino's soft crooning. The two work perfectly together, and it doesn't hurt that the melody is catchy as Hell. This track also features something similar to a guitar solo, which is rare in Deftones' music.
Deftones has their own original sound down to a T. The key their sound always has been and always will be the battle between loud and quiet, soft and heavy, delicate and making your soul hurt. // 8
Lyrics and Singing: "Romantic Dreams" has a waltz vibe to it, which switches into a groove and a more relaxed chorus. The song is a monster, and has a very ethereal quality. The first single, "Leathers", opens with an ambient, peaceful intro, which is shattered in seconds by Chino's screams and the crushing guitar riffs. "Poltergeist" has an old school Deftones vibe, fused with their new sound. It's the shortest track on the album but it's abrasive, memorable, and a definite stand out.
"Entombed" is reminiscent of a Crosses/Deftones hybrid, and is without a doubt one of the best songs on this record. The lyrics are fantastic and the song is very emotional. "Graphic Nature" is the least memorable song on this record. I find myself forgetting what it sounds like, yet once I listen to it, I find myself singing along and grooving along to it as much as the other songs.
"Tempest" seems to have more of a mainstream metal sound that singles tend to have, making it less appealing to me (although it loses most of that in the context of the album). It's with out a doubt great and is catchy as hell, and emotional. The lyrics are great - like most of Deftones' work - and the perfect choice for a single. "Gauze" is odd, in that when I first listened to it, the vocal melodies in the verses bothered me. There was just something in the way that were sung that didn't seem to fit, but after repeated listens it's grown on me. The chorus is killer as well.
The next two tracks are the peak of the album. "Rosemary" and "Goon Squad" are easily the two best tracks, "Rosemary" being slower and droning while "Goon Squad" is more aggressive. The two segue into each other seamlessly via an ambient interlude that encompasses the tone of both songs into one.
The closer "What Happened To You" is probably my least favourite track. It's great, but it doesn't hit me as hard as all the others. It's softer and more melodic, but there isn't much to the song. It's simple, but the section where Chino sings:
"The sky is falling down
The night is calling you
A star is burning out
The sky belongs to you"
Makes the song so much more enjoyable. It's a very satisfying conclusion to the album but could have been much better. // 6
Impression: This is a fantastic record and one of Deftones' best to date. The only real downside to this album is that the band hasn't really introduced any new elements to their music. It's basically a mixture of "Diamond Eyes" and "Saturday Night Wrist". Although that's not a band thing it would have been nice to see what new innovations to their sound they had made. I'm extremely looking forward to the band's next album, and to the recuperation of bassist Chi Cheng. Seriously, buy this record. It's worth the money. // 7
Koi No Yokan
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cyclonus, on november 23, 2012 0 of 1 people found this review helpful
Sound: Deftones return with their anticipated follow up to "Diamond Eyes" with an effort quite reflective of that innovative release. The 8-string guitar of Stephen Carpenter is still out at full force, making use of every possible riff at his disposal from both ends of the low and high end spectrum with full backing of Abe Cunningham, Frank Delgado and Sergio Vega, warping the sound into a very atmospheric outing.
Comparatively, "Koi No Yokan" is to "Diamond Eyes" as "White Pony" was to "Around The Fur"; the smoother and more experimental follow-up while still featuring some heavy riff-based songs. There are the straight-up headbangers like "Swerve City", "Gauze" and "Polterheist" as well as the soft, mellow compositions of "Rosemary", "What Happened To You?" and "Entombed". In the middle, we also have the songs that blend the two opposites to form the likes of "Leathers", "Romantic Dreams" and the impressive "Tempest". There's a lot to like here, particularly for the more eclectic Deftones fan with little to be disappointed with.
Conversely, if there is anything to be said negatively of the album, it would be that it does sound like a more passive outing of "Diamond Eyes" which may not necessarily be a bad thing but does not give it a lot of ground to stand on its own. Some songs may even sound identical to ones on the previous outing like "Swerve City" slightly resembling a more up-tempo version of Royal while others sound reminiscent of other artists, the low F# riff on "Polterheist" sounding too close to Meshuggah and Chino's chorus vocals on "Romantic Dreams" loosely reflective of U2's "With Or Without You". That said, none of these aspects make "Koi No Yokan" a dull or uninspiring listen, rather the complete opposite. // 8
Lyrics and Singing: Chino's back with his dream-like vocals that perfectly capture the atmospheric nature of the album, along with his loud yells to enhance the more aggressive parts of the songs. A notable absence from "Koi No Yokan" are the pterodactyl screams he has previously employed on the likes of the self-titled album but they are not missed too much on this occasion.
With Moreno's lyrics, it's safe to say he does not explore unfamiliar territory with his subject matters with his writings reflecting romance at most opportunities (no doubt a concept of the album's title this time round). Compared to previous albums, there are a lot less songs referencing drugs and more based on personal feelings from a first or third person perspective. While not covering new ground, there's no doubt Chino knows how to graft a well-written song with the likes "Romantic Dreams" and "Tempest".
A minor gripe to be had with Chino would be that his vocals tend to blend into each other when listening to the album as a whole. Often it's hard to differentiate the songs by their choruses for this reason but it is this same aspect that brings out the best of his voice and is something that can be looked aside after a few listens. // 8
Impression: There's no doubt that "Koi No Yokan" is an impressive album with the band putting their full effort into making it. There is little here to dislike and features a wide range of sounds that expands beyond Deftones' entire back catalogue. The complaints of the album would be that it may appear to have used "Diamond Eyes" as a template when creating it which hurts its originality and it may not appeal to the more heavy fans of the band who would expect a few brutal songs reminiscent of the likes of "Hexagram", "Cmnd/Ctrl" and "Elite", instead opting to blend their heaviness with their soft side a little too often here. It's also questionable whether this album will stand the test of time for the aforementioned reasons but that is merely a matter of debate. "Koi No Yokan" is a strong effort and will satisfy most Deftones fans with its broad musical integrity. // 8
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davey77, on november 23, 2012 0 of 1 people found this review helpful
Sound: The thing I love about the Deftones is that they're albums are always different, for good or bad. With that said, this album has a great sound. Every time I listen to I feel like I'm dreaming or I'm freakin' high on something. The mood is definitely... Well moody. The songs are dynamic, not like a soft then hard then soft like in their past but really groovy. Chino's voice is awesome as usual; very soothing yet not as aggressive in the past, his guitar work has gotten way better as well, using more delay effects, the bass is very thick and loud, the synths shine a lot in this album, Abe's drums are the best that I've heard in this one; its really jazzy, and almost dancy in a way yet it grooves hard like some metal bands, to me he really stands out with chino the best.
Now for the bad and I mean this in a sad, sad way. When I started out playing guitar back in 98' all I want to sound like was like Steph, and it makes me sob that is guitar, well sucks. Its really weak and repetitive on all the songs. His tone with the 8string just sounds muddy as hell, and its sounds too much like Korn/nu metal crap. Honestly I feel like he was just thrown in their, its boring with him on their. I mean the guitars on the last record was phenomenal! What happened Steph, you where known for your tone! In my opinion he needs to get back to 6 string, "Around The Fur"/"White Pony" tone. The album sounds like everyone has progressed except for Steph (man that hurt typing that). // 7
Lyrics and Singing: Lyrically Chino has the best out there, it sets the tone of the album. I feel like I'm having a wild dream when I list to his lyrics. He doesn't scream in this one, it would be just pointless if he did though. His voice is the best by far in any other albums. I really think he out did himself on this one but then again I thought he did on "Diamond Eyes" too! The music is really dreamy and moody which compliments Chino's voice, its almost like his voice is leading you to messed up dream. By far "Leathers" is the best song with the lyrics, I can't imagine what kind of story he's singing in his head. Its by far the best he's written since "White Pony". // 10
Impression: Honestly I was expecting something more because "Diamond Eyes" was such a good album maybe even their best to debate but this could of been a better album but its not a horrible album either. I would compare it to "Saturday Night Wrist" or the self title with a sprinkle of "White Pony". The songs are good in their own way, yet theirs something in each that bothers me for example the opening track sounds like nu-metal Korn riff, but Chino's voice with Abe's drumming saved the song. The second song "Romantic Dreams" is such a cluster of songs mushed into one, its good but it sounds like I'm listening to 3 sample songs of Amazon into one. "Leathers" is a solid track kinda takes forever to get going though, "Poltergeist" is great too, "Entombed" sound good but all to familiar like it should of been on "Saturday Night Wrist". "Graphic Nature" is has an okay hook but its too repetitive. "Tempest", "Gauze" and "Goon Squad" stand out as the best for me. Again "Rosemary" sounds too familiar. And lets not forget the synth pop song they made so famous/infamous like in "White Pony" with "What Happened To You?" which is probably a good closer to the album.
Over all it took me 3 listens to really get the album and enjoy it. Its not like the self-title or "Saturday Night" where I felt like it was rushed and kinda lazy but really melodic and different and well polished production. If you're expecting the crushing sounds of "Diamond Eyes" then think again, its not better but different in a good way. The album would probably sound better if the heavy guitars weren't involve or at least go back to the "White Pony" tone. I give it a solid 7 for dynamics, good production and originality! // 7
To be a good reviewer, you need to find something wrong with the album to give constructive criticism. I doubt THIS is one of the few albums that is actually a perfect 10. And this is coming from a Deftones fan.
Hate to be the one to say it, as I've probably been into Deftones for a shorter period of time than most of you, but almost every band has a point where they sort of bottom out after hitting the peak of their powers, you know? I wouldn't be surprised if their next one or two albums aren't nearly as good. Not that I want that to happen, obviously; Deftones are one of my favorite bands ever, but it happens to most bands. Fortunately, bands that go through that often make pretty good comebacks later on if they stick around.
i guess you are not aware that THIS IS their revival period, they already bottomed out. They had success in the late 90s with adrenaline and around the fur, scored big with white pony then bottomed out with self titled and saturday night wrist (although i personally love both albums) - they made a huge 'comeback' with diamond eyes, and this album propels them into a totally different plane.
Maybe they bottomed out commercially, but not artistically. I mean, they seemed to grow artistically in some aspects with each consecutive album and certainly weren't just giving the fans the same old thing. So... yeah, I meant artistically, not commercially. They were never really that big commercially, anyway.
They are totally in their right to give it a 10, whathever any of us think. I'd wait for the album to get a bit older before confirming that though, it may not age well.
Anyway, this actually sounds lovely. Stephen is stealing from Meshuggah (BTW, standard C? He was using 8-strings last time I checked) and the synth is more present than ever. It has a very atmospheric ambience, I'm really digging it.
As much as I'm looking forward to this album, I don't think that it'll top any of their first three. It could very well top any of their last three albums, though, so yeah, utterly psyched here. Deftones are most definitely "the best band of the nu-metal crop and the most innovative metal act of the post-2000s."
Awesome record, dnt know if it's worth a 10, but, other than that, is an AMAZING record...
BRU-TAL!!!
Muy buen disco, no se si merece un 10, pero apartando eso es un EXCELENTE disco....
Not sure how I feel about the all 10's review. Hell, I'll still give it a listen and probably buy though, really liked where they were going with Diamond Eyes. "Rocket Skates" is still in heavy rotation.
This album is absolutely amazing!!! The feeling of getting caressed in the ear holes then kicked in the teeth! This album is by far, to me, my favorite album by the deftones. Been a fan since adrenaline and love every album in a different way, however, the sense of style and growth this album encompasses is incredible!!!!! Nothin' but LOVE DEFTONES, nothin' but love!
Why is it that of the last 3 albums they were all dubbed "the next logical progression from white pony"? So the next thing to do after white pony was to make 3 awesome albums? I really liked Saturday Night Wrists as a follow-up and "deftones" as the prequel followed by this with diamond eyes. After around the fur in terms of listening order for a soundscape. I would say that this album is at the very least, on par with the last 2 but I really liked "snw" and this one is already in the running to pass it as one of my top 3 deftones records, its already better than diamond eyes imo.
I think people tend to misinterpret a score of 10 in reviews, much like with film and video games. A perfect 10 to me means that the album is an incredibly well-rounded production, and something that I can get a real kick out of listening to. A record that I'll keep spinning for months to come, and one that I'll be excited to learn the guitar sections for and possibly buy every other ****ing instrument heard on the album just so I can play the songs myself!
People are always going to have different opinions though, that's just life. To many this will feel like a 10/10 album, some maybe an 8 or 9, and others might not like it at all. But who cares - in the end a number on a review shouldn't be that big of a deal.
Getting the album today, can't wait to blast the house down.
This has been growing on me, I have listened to the whole album about five or six times now. Chino is amazing. This album flows. I loved SNW too, but I felt that the album was kind of pieced together. The new album sounds beautiful! Made my month.
I'd say 7+. Tempest is freaking amazing, Leathers is very good, but the rest didn't really manage to keep me interested at all. Overall it's a very nice try and definitely one of the best of this year.
Album is well overrated. Nobody gave a shit about this band when Saturday Night Wrist came out, then Diamond Eyes comes out and everyone loves them. This album has been hyped like crazy.
It's a good album, but it isn't better than Diamond Eyes.
Are you really this stupid? Deftones had a huge following in the ATF days and were grammy winners in 2001. Get your facts straight before you ramble on like an unstoppable moron.
Just finished listening to the stream for the fifth time. Poltergeist and Entombed have to be my favorites, although the whole album is bodaciously magical. Only 10/10 review I actually stand by.
To me, after listening to this album straight through a few times on a road trip this weekend, I feel like its a toss up between this and white pony as far as best deftones release. vocals are great, guitars to me, are a lot more interesting than anything they’ve done in the past. Only gripe about it is most of the songs sound the same, but that could be said of any and all deftones stuff.
I really think they have the potential to do much more than they've actually done. Still waiting for that creative breakthrough from them... but they're a great band nonetheless.
Deftones has always been that strange strange band I could never quite get into. I liked their last album tho, and this is def different. Not sure if I can say its better but its def beautiful considering that its a concept album. Overall, it was a great listen, even tho I couldnt quite get into a few tracks, Id say Goon Squad is actually my favorite. Just hits home for me for heaviness. Other than that I love Rosemary and Tempest. Swerve City and What Ever Happened To You are also pretty cool songs.
There are really FAT string gauges these days so you can tune down a lot ...and Stephen is far from using the whole 8 string scale in a single song so ..why not try hehehe
The album is real good but i think they started to repeat themselves. Their last 3 albums sound like Team Sleep albums but have the distortion on the guitars. And the albums are not 100% similar but ..but they are a lot similar. I am a huge Deftones fan so don't start to blame me about my opinion!
Anyway the album is good.
I can see the repetition a little bit. This album has basically the same concept as Adrenaline and Deftones (more so the latter), and some of the lyrics are almost self-referential. Still, I think that they added enough new stuff to the mix to cover up for some of the rehashing, at least on first listen.
Most songs on their last 3 albums were written by Chino, some songs from Pony and Deftones WERE IN FACT meant to be Teams Sleep songs. This albums follow the internal tensions of the band, besides loosing Chi had an effect on the them as a band, the chemistry is long, who knows how many of these songs were actually written as a whole band.
I love all of their albums, I'd give it a 10 just because of that. Also, I don't get why peeps are comparing Fur with Pony, or Deftones with Adrenaline, if those albums were made in different stages of the band, the setting and sound, the songs and their feelings, everything is completely different.
Deftones are like Tool to me, just Tool has made musical breakthroughs that no one can match, and Deftones are more prolific writers. Good album overall. 9+
I'm a huge Deftones fan, but seriously how is this album rating so well. It's a good album, Not great. Nothing compared to around the fur or white Pony.
Verdict after having it for five days: their best album since White Pony . They ended up taking the sound and production of Diamond Eyes , the atmosphere of Saturday Night Wrist , and the lyrical aspects of Deftones to make their most cohesive work in quite some time. (Not that the last three were bad or anything.) Probably their catchiest album thus far, too: it didn't take several listenings to remember all of the songs this time around. So yeah, great album. I could've gone on longer, but that's my two cents.
I'm wary... perfect 10's are not good; I don't know what it is with UG and having perfect 10's on everything. I feel like I've been sent to the reviews section of a shitty Korean Starcaster guitar being given 10 stars by mistake... Nope definitely a Deftones review.
I've heard good things about this album, but I also heard great things about Diamond Eyes and I wasn't blown away at all by what was on that album either.
Not a 10, there's a few songs that get the skip button pressed, however, there is some absolute killer tracks. It certainly has the same feel as Diamond Eyes, so if you liked that you will love this release too.
I think the track Romantic Dreams might have one of the best chorus's they've ever written.
It's a good album, but definitely not a 10 IMO. The tracks are a bit samey and blend together (compare it to Elite + Change (ITHOF) on White Pony and Rocket Skates + Beauty School on Diamond Eyes). It doesn't have the same energy or heaviness as Diamond Eyes.
Blend together? This album has many changes IMO, Romantic Dreams to Leathers is a good change, as well as Graphic Nature to Tempest transition. I thought the album had more synergy and volume then Diamond Eyes did, Diamond eyes had alot of "moments" but some duds as well, where as this album just seems to grab my attention all the way through (except for maybe "what happened to you?" kind of a boring finisher IMO)
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Interesting thing about Deftones is their guitar tuning gets lower and lower and more and more strings get added lol. Started in standard on Adrenaline, down to a full step down on White Pony then onto the 7 strings which were then dropped down and now we are onto the 8 string guitars. They are getting heavier and heavier with every release.
