Ultra Beatdown Review

Released: Aug 26, 2008
Genre: Power metal
Label: Roadrunner, Universal, JVC, Spinefarm
Number Of Tracks: 14
Ultra Beatdown is an epic, sweeping, grand collection of infectious guitar anthems that'll inspire all who listen to either pump their fists in the air or pick up a guitar, whether it be real or virtual.

Sound:	8.8
Lyrics:	6.9
Impression:	8.8
Overall rating:	8.2
Users rating:	6.4
Comments:	169

overall: 9

Featured review by: UG Team, on august 27, 2008

Sound: Dragonforce is back with their fourth studio album, and they are sounding better than ever. Advancing further with their sound every album, Ultra Beatdown sounds more mature, and is the most diverse album by the metal gods, Dragonforce, to date.

In the first track, "Heroes of our Time," Dragonforce ups the ante by having more complex and catchy melody lines in the song. Also the song has many more slow parts than other songs in previous albums. Quite a few of the songs have slower parts in the songs that contrast the faster parts of the song. That's one element in this album that sets it apart from the rest of the albums. In the previous Dragonforce albums, apart from the ballads, most of the songs were preformed at breakneck speeds throughout the entire song. In this album there are many slower parts. The overall melodies in the album are more colorful, on the vocals, guitars, and keyboard. My personal favorite off the album was the song "Heartbreak Armageddon." In the guitar solo, you can hear techniques that sound like those of thrash legend Marty Friedman. The overall melody is amazing, after listening to it, you get the most epic feeling of triumphantness. It is simply amazing.

The guitar parts are what most people listen for, and blow most people that appreciate shred, and epic guitar music, completley away. The shred duo, Herman and Sam, do a great job on Ultra Beatdown. Every song had epic, harmonized, and melodic shred. Another thing that sets this album apart, is there are different techniques used throughout the solos, and in the structures of the songs. Not every solo is fast. I think overall, this album is far more diverse and mature sounding. If you have never listened to Dragonforce before, this would be the perfect album to start with. If you have listened to Dragonforce before and were not impressed, I would give this album a listen it would change your mind. And Dragonforce fans, you won't be dissapointed. // 10

Lyrics and Singing: These are classic Dragonforce lyrics. For me, I don't pay much attention to them. ZP is a great singer, and does a wonderful just singing, but the lyrics are "fantasy lyrics" done in Dragonforce style. This is the part where most people are turned off, to me I can listen to the lyrics and sing them, but I really don't pay much attention to the meaning, I pay more attention to the melody. In this album, ZP does some pretty awesome melodies vocally, and they are really catchy. They go with the music perfectly, and are really epic, and triumphant. The songs are uplifting, and give you an adrenaline rush becasue they are that uplifting. // 7

Impression: Overall, this was an amazing album. It is an improvment from Inhuman Rampage, and I know many fans from the days of "Valley of the Damned" that like this album. The guiar, vocal, and keyboard parts are for more mature sounding than in the previous albums. Dragonforce has evolved their sound, taking it one step further. Like I said earlier, if you didn't like them before, I would give this album a chance, it's very good. Herman, Sam, Vadim, Fred, ZP, and Dave display the complete mastery of their instruments in this album. All of the parts come together and sound great. I would recomend this to any fan of melodic music. // 10

overall: 8.7

Reviewed by: Night_Warrior, on august 11, 2009

Sound: The sound of Ultra Beatdown has taken parts of every DragonForce album and put it into one, and it has added new elements for DragonForce that made Ultra Beatdown one of a kind. From the high speed shredding, to the insane synth, to the tear delivering vocals, this album has it all.

This album seems to focus more on vocals, piano, and synth more than guitar.

The songs all have there ups and downs through the whole album.

01.Heroes Of Our Time: 7.5/10 this song is one of the meh songs on the album. The intro is catchy untill the sweep picking section, that has no direction. The lyrics in the chorus are not my favorite either, but it has a very catchy chord progession and melody. The solo bores my a little as well. But the song would be nothing without the outro, they land on the right note prefectly.
02.The Fire Still Burns: 7.5/10 this song is another meh song. It has a catchy intro that every DragonForce fan likes, and the end of the chorus when they sing "The Fire Still Burns" is very catchy and you may have it stuck in your head for a few days.
03.Reasons To Live: 9.5/10 Vadim, Sam, and Fred knew what they where doing when the wrote the music to this song. The music is perfect for any DragonForce fan or DragonForce hater. The intro on the thrermin and 215bpm blastbeat had me banging my head the minute I heard it, and it's all calms down with some synth sweeping. The lyrics to this song are very love them are hate them, like when they sing "A Star Shines In All Of Us" but that is a very DragonForce type lyric for you. After the extremely catchy chorus, you have the best part of the whole album, the solo. The nifty harmonic minor with wah pedal lick is the best way to start off the solo, and then when Sam comes in with the Whammy Pedal, the solo starts to really kick in. Then the drummer, Dave Macintosh, lays down amazing beats throughout the whole solo that made my father, a drummer who hates DragonForce, say "That was amazing, [b]that[/b] is music".". After the main solo, and after the funny wistle that made me lol, they solo over the chorus and go to a vocal chorus redux, and ZP Theart's vocals on the outro can make anyone cry.
04.Heartbreak Armageddon: 8.0/10 this is a very in-your-face kind of song. The vocal intro is even in your face! The song is very well put together and all follows smoothly compared to any other DragonForce song. And the acoustic solo had my father saying again how amazing the music is. This song also emphisizes how well Vadim Pruzhanov works on the Synth during the solo.
05.The Last Journey Home: 8.0/10 this song is all over the place compared to track 4, but DragonForce pulls it off. This is also a very different DragonForce song, and the haters would agree that it does sound different. The main highlight of this song is the solo. The solo actually feels like Sam and Herman are actually having a guitar duel. Herman, yet again shows off his amazing talent for legato sweeps and amazing tapping skills, as sam shows off his punchy and tight style of playing that makes you want to palm mute the next time you play guitar.
06.A Flame For Freedom: 7/10 the worst of the DragonForce ballads. They should have stuck to the piano intros like in Starfire, or Dawn Over A New World. The solo to this song is ok, and its really only good the first time you hear it. I do like the lyrics though, especialy in the beggining when they say "In the dark December morning light, Far strong to the burning winds, the fires of Hell will foresake me". These lyrics single handedly make me realize why this such a great band.
07.Inside The Winter Storm: 9/10 another great one! Sam wrote the music all by himself and he knew what he was doing, as shown in the chorus break. When it stops, and the piano kicks in, its just amazing how he pulled it off. Then when the lyrics come in to the chorus after the break, when ZP sings "A light for the world will save us tonight" it shows how great Sam can write melody lines, and with such great lyrics, like "Its just one wasted man in one wasted land" make me sit and interpret the lyrics. The song is all for the chorus!
08.The Warrior Inside: 8.5/10 I will get this out of the way first, the intro sounds like a news cast intro, witch is cool if you like that stuff like me. There is no doubt the Vadim wrote that inrto. The lyrics are very catchy and how they are sung makes them sound even better. I think thats what makes this song very nice. And when it gets slower for the solo, its just amazing. I got to see them play this song live, and that is when I realiazed that this song has an amazing solo. And this song has a first for DragonForce, at the end of this song, they don't have a chorus redux, they just go right into the outro. That is another reason why this song is a great one.

-Special Edition Tracks-

09.Strike Of The Ninja: 7.5/10 Sam basically covered his own song. The orignal song was called "Feel The Fire" by "Shadow Warriors", a side project from 2000 (It is unknown if they are still together today) with Sam and ZP, although they still deny ever forming Shadow Warriors. The quality of the orignal version is very bad, but the older song is very good, I reccomend that song more.
10.Scars Of Yesterday: 9/10 the best of the bonus tracks. This song has one hell of a groove and is a very different DragonForce song, differnt for two reasons. Reason one, being the music, it is still DragonForce cheesy that the fans like, but its just different, you have to give it a listen to. And reason number two is the topic of the song, no more slaying dragons or riding on eagels! This song is about rape! The lyrics talk about tying an Ex Girlfriend up, puting her on a drug and raping her. Thats not why I like the song (well not the ony reason :) ), yet again, Vadim wrote amazing synth parts, and Fred who wrote the solo and plays it live. This is a very musical song and its bound to catch your ears. And, if you like video game music, you are sure to catch those sounds the Vadim put in there.
11.E.P.M: 8/10 Rumored to stand for Extreme Power Metal. Its an O.K song, not my favorite though. The intro makes me want to play MegaMan 2, and the lyric themes ("Blind my eyes burning forever to wash my sins away") are very appeling to me.

Overall, I rate the songs and sounds on this album an 8.5, rounded to a 9. // 9

Lyrics and Singing: Overall, the lyrics are ok, as long as you are a Power Metal fan. Some people don't find slaying dragons and accompanied vocal lines nice to them and would rather listen to someone killing someone. I like all kinds of metal so I listen to Cannibal Corpse as well, but I just find DragonForce more appealing for there lyrics. And as a Cristian (I might not act it) I feel these lyrics appeal strongly to me.

The lyrics, for the most part, compliment the music well, as shown in "Inside The Winter Storm". If you give it a listen, you will know what I mean.

The singer, ZP Theart (Zip-ee) is not what I would call the best sing, but he isnt average, but he isnt the worst. But he is also not anyone they picked up off the street, he can sing, and he is unique, and thats why he dosent suck. He can hit really high notes and his bass and mid range is very well suited for Power Metal. And thats why ZP (Or Mister, cookie to whoever get the refrence) is a good singer for this album. // 8

Impression: This is no album compared to Valley Of The Damned or Sonic Firestorm, but it is amazing compared to Inhuman Rampage. I think this takes the best of every album and puts it into one.

The most impressive songs on the album are "Reasons To Live", "Inside The Winter Storm", and "Scars Of Yesterday".

I love that this album brings out the best of all the other instruments besides guitar, they really focus more on Synth and Vocals. Although the bass will never be as good as on Sonic Firestorm's "Above The Winter Moonlight", or Valley Of The Damned's "Heart Of A Dragon" it is alright. I also love that this is the first album that the bassist Frédéric Leclercq wrote music for, he is a very good musician and if you want to hear more of him, I suggest listening to Maladaptive.

If I had to hate one thing on the album, it would be that they don't do a Triple Attack like in the "Soldiera Of The Wasteland" solo, but I can live without it.

If this was stolen, I would, without a doubt, rush to the store and buy a new copy.

I am a member of the Offical DragonForce FanClub: Soldiers Of The Wasteland, and I just thought that I would share my thoughts on the wonderful album with everyone. // 9

overall: 7

Reviewed by: HeavenlyVirus, on august 27, 2008

Sound: Well, as we all know, Dragonforce have always had a unique sound that has changed in subtle ways with each album and Ultra Beatdown is no exception. Ultra Beatdown is definately a great new sound for the band. In my opinion, several songs stood out more than others. Said songs include Heartbreak Armageddon, Reasons to Live, and A Flame for Freedom. This album was exactly what Dragonforce needed to write to continue to evolve, but not lose their identity. The vocal production and harmonies are also miles above any of their other work. It's amazing to listen to ZP's incredible voice. His range soars up there with the clouds. The guitar solos are also very different. Many of them are actually slow, although not the majority. I think that Heartbreak Armageddon has the greatest DF solo ever written. I promise it will take many of you by surprise. The keyboards also saw a significant improvement. Much less of the traditional synth strings and more new age sounds. It sounds more futuristic to be honest. There are also a lot more keyboard solos.

On a sadder note, the drums haven't changed much at all. I hear more drum rolls on the snare, but that's about it. Dave is a great drummer, but nothing about his drumming on this new album really caught my attention. // 8

Lyrics and Singing: Haha. Lyrics. Dragonforce lyrics have always been over the top, and yet again, Ultra Beatdown makes no exceptions. Riding through harsh winter storms, fighting the forces of evil, finding the truth in oneself. Ultra Beatdown has it all. My biggest complaint is that the line "So far away" appears in at least 3 different songs. I know that the lyrics aren't meant to be serious, but come on, Totman. You can do better. // 5

Impression: Ultra Beatdown is on a whole different level than VotD, SF, and IR. I won't go so far as to say it's 'better', but I will say that it is different. Once again I will emphasize that it's still Dragonforce making the music, so don't expect 8 slow songs. I really liked this album. It's not ground-breaking, but it will entertain me for quite a while. I will, however, admit that some of the guitar parts were overproduced. I felt like the whammy bar sqeals were too much. I can take a few, but Ultra Beatdown gets a bit ridiculous with how much abuse that Edge Zero bridge takes. Anyways, it's a good listen for DF fans, and it may even win the respect of people who are not DF fans. It's definately worth buying. // 8

overall: 8.3

Reviewed by: Panasonic3, on august 27, 2008

Sound: The overall sound if DF's new release isn't too different from their other stuff, but if you listen close there are very cool subtleties. The Keys (always my favorite with this band) are much more present, have a less synth like sound and venture more into 8-bit stuff and back to their roots with trumpets and strings. The guitars are different as well. The melodies are a little less catchy and heavier. The bridges and guitar interludes are much more oriental sounding than any of their other albums. The solos, I must say, are still brialliant. Sadly, it seems the bass has been really mixed out. I was looking forward to heavy bassage but there wasn't any. And a plus! The drummer is better! // 10

Lyrics and Singing: Lyric impression is what you expect. Epic battle metal lyris talking about journeys across time and space and the like, and it fits perfectly. Sadly though for Z.P. Theart, your singing isn't as good. His skill has by no means dropped, but he stopped hitting the high notes and epic screams. I was kind of a let down. I liked his catchy voice. // 7

Impression: DragonForce really is a band like no other modern band. Nobody ever made music this epic, and especially with out as talented musicians. They are just sweet. Great songs would be: Reasons to Live, Heartbreak Armeggeddon, The Last Journey Home, Inside the Winter Storm, and The Warrior Inside. I love nearly everything about this album, and I hate nothing. If I had to change something, it would be the vox, but I don't hate them. Everything 2 hotdogs up. Great album. Does it seem like I bought it? I suppose I'd be pissed if it were lost or stolen because I would be out a computer. // 8

overall: 9.3

Reviewed by: Big Tommy P, on august 27, 2008

Sound: As DragonForce themselves have stated, the music is not terribly different. It is however, their most diverse album since Valley of the Damned, in 2003. There is more variation in tempo and texture, and honestly, they have never sounded better. The production is very tastefully done, with clear and precise tones. As the music is more varied, so too are the individual works of the guys. Herman and Sam still shred, as usual. Vadim's keys are beginning to flourish in comparison to the guitars, and features more piano and strings than the previous albums. Newcomer Frederic Leclercq is more than capable of filling Adrian Lambert's shoes, and even contributes to the songwriting (first bassist to do so), having said that, he provides a solid rhythmic stream of mayhem alongside drummer Dave Mackintosh, who is as good as ever. // 10

Lyrics and Singing: The lyrics are typical DF. Battles, quests, etc. However, they are improving as lyricists, and as songwriters. The lyrics do not focus as much on mythical battles and the usual topics, but instead have begun to incorporate emotion into them. They are still DF, though. ZP Theart's vocals are as good as ever, and through the greater diversity of the album, is able to showcase his abundant skill on new levels. // 8

Impression: Critically well-received, Beatdown is looking to assume the throne of Magnum Opus, and rightfully deserves to. It stands above all their previous work and is a working testament to the bands' ability. Heroes of our Time, Reasons to Live, and The Warrior Inside stand out the most. The worst thing about the album is the artwork, which was the source of much friction among fans and critics alike. It is their most beautifully crafted album to date. It may seem a little less guitar-driven at times, which is refreshing, yet they still stand out of all the instruments. If all my DF albums were lost/stolen, this would be the first to replace, as it is easily the most enjoyable. Did they do anything truly original? No, not really, but it is the most varied and original album to date. Those seeking a foothold to DFs music should use this album, essential to the existing fan. // 10

overall: 9.7

Reviewed by: LukeElliff, on february 16, 2009

Sound: The fourth album by Dragonforce. My favourite by far. In my view, the band has now found the perfect combination between the guitars, bass, keyboards, drums, and vocals to release a truely epic album. This album is another day in the office for DragonForce, with the regular solo's and what now, but they have slowed parts down, which is risky to me, but it payed off and, well lets face it, it makes Inhuman Rampage look bad. The diversity of the band has changed hugely over the last two years, and now feature extreme vocal pitch switching (The Fire Still Burns), the new MIDIjet system used by Vadim (Reasons to live) and the solos seem a lot deeper, not just jumping straight it. The Last Journey Home shows a smoother solo, building up to a full volume epic segment. Overall, this album is one of the best I have heard, and they have improved live too, seeing them in Newcastle on 8/10/08, I felt they have mastered the live performances. Great job lads! // 10

Lyrics and Singing: Well, lets face it, Dragonforce have always used fantasy lyrics, but it works for them. There is some controversy with them, as bassist Frédric Lécéreq has gone on record saying that fantasy lyrics are not his sort of thing, but has grown to except them. Throughout this album, ZP has shown more passion and commitment than before (if that's possible) and has stretched his vocals to new levels, and shows an ability to push a powerful voice weather it be high pitched singing (The Fire Still Burns), or more classical ballad styles (The Warrior inside ending, A Flame For Freeom). Personally, I find the lyrics wierd, but they are presented so well by ZP I have become really fond of them. // 9

Impression: This album is so amazing, it blows the older stuff away in my view. All four Dragonforce albums are unique, and are improving all the time, making all fans desperate to get their hands on aa new dragonforce album. The song that stands out most to me has got to be The Warrior Inside, as this song has everything from the energetic build up into, to a slow soft ending, and a good solo too. The lyrics are what make this song truely great though is the lyrics, "In a lifetime of disaster, it's a battle to the end" is such an amazing line, it inspires me when I'm down, plus Herman and Sam are so good on this song it makes me want to play guitar more than usual. In this album, as all new guitarists will, I love the solos. Even though I see myself as a rhythm guitarist and not so keen on playing solos, I still enjoy listening to the magic that DragonForce put into guitars. However, I do dislike the fact that you can barely, if at all, hear the bass guitar.

If this was stolen, then I'd definately buy it again, even though I have it on my computer, Ipod, back-up disc etc, so if you steal those off me I will break you legs.
Great album, can't wait for number 5. // 10

overall: 7.3

Reviewed by: PancakeLad001, on january 26, 2009

Sound: Dragonforce has created one of their best albums yet. Still hanging with the hard rock and metal genres, all of the songs are great. Especially Heroes of Our Time and Heartbreak Armageddon. Although none of the songs compare to Through The Fire and Flames, their best song in my opinion, they all come in second to it. // 8

Lyrics and Singing: The lyrics were alright, but not the best I've ever heard. It seems to me that the only unique things about the songs is the guitar solos. All the lyrics seem to be about battle, death, or fire! I've heard that every day, so no thank you! All the lyrics seem to blend together into one huge song. Breaking Benjamin uses the same style of lyrics, but at least they're different in every song. // 5

Impression: Ultra Beatdown, in comparison to Dragonforce's other albums, probably comes in second to what I've heard. The guitar solos rock your brains out, but they always do anyway with their rock and metal music. All the songs have nice intros and great music. My favorite song would have to be Heroes of Our Time, the first track. Then comes The Fire Still Burns. The only thing I don't like about it is that all the songs are ridiculously long, like at least 7 minutes each. If they had shortened them down a bit, then they could have fit more songs on the CD. If you have never heard Dragonforce before, this is not the CD for you. I recommend Inhuman Rampage, just for the fact that it has the band's most famous song, Through The Fire and Flames. If you're not used to heavy metal music, then you'll probably go through an adjustment period. The first time I heard the CD, I only liked one of the songs. But after a few days of listening, I like all of them! Go Dragonforce! // 9

overall: 7.3

Reviewed by: AdemaOnYourHead, on september 19, 2008

Sound: Let me get this out of the way first. If you're an absolute Dragonforce hater, like a lot of you are, "Ultra Beatdown" probably is not going to change your mind. However, if you're someone who's been on the fence about Dragonforce, this is the album that will knock you down onto Dragonforce's side of the yard. This is easily Dragonforce's best album. No longer can you say all their songs feel like "Through the FIre and Flames V.2." Almost every song, while still following the usual Dragonforce formula, have a unique touch that will make you say, "Oh yeah, I remember this song." So, if you've been iffy on Dragonforce, this is the album that will change your mind. But if you absolutely hate them, there's nothing here that will radically change your mind and turn you into a hardcore Dragonforce fan. // 8

Lyrics and Singing: All right, well, to sum up the lyrics in a few words: It's Dragonforce. They're certainly not winning any awards for their lyrics, and you will still find an abundance of fire, flames, and waiting for the day that is so far away. So if you're expecting some major change in their lyrical themes, you will be sadly disappointing. However, with that said, the lyrics, while nothing special, are different enough from their past albums to feel a lot fresher. ZP Theart's voice sounds as good as ever. Oh, and briefly I'd like to talk about the title of the album itself. "Ultra Beatdown" sounds sort of like a generic NES beat 'em up, and was definitely a turn-off to the album, but if you can get past all that, it's not bad at all. // 6

Impression: Overall, Ultra Beatdown is a really good album. Almost all the songs have something to offer, each with it's own touch of uniqueness to make it more memorable than the last. So, in my opinion, this would be Dragonforce's best CD yet. It really is an Ultra Beatdown. But again, it's nothing so amazing that if you hate Dragonforce I'd say "Oh pick up Ultra Beatdown, it will change your mind." But if you just don't like them very much or you're on the fence, this CD is at least worth a try. In closing, allow me to give you a little track-by-track breakdown of the songs on Ultra Beatdown.

01. Heroes of Our Time: this is a decent opening track, not the best on the album, but certainly not the worst either. 7/10
02. The Fire Still Burns: an enjoyable track, but nothing too special. The intro is pretty cool. 6/10
03. Reasons To Live: definitely my favorite track on the album. It has a strong, crazy Dragonforce intro you won't soon forget, and halfway through breaks into an amazing slow sort of bit in the middle, with a great solo. And who said Dragonforce can't play slower? This song is a little hard to describe, I strongly recommend you give it a listen. 9.5/10
04. Heartbreak Armageddon: this one is another of of my favorites. The intro again has some cool, heroic feeling guitar work going on. It's another strong song with another, cool, slow solo in the middle. And I actually like the lyrics on this one, too. 9/10
05. The Last Journey Home: this song sounds like the title, if you can understand what I mean. The song feels like a long journey home. This is another good track, and the solo, while not slow per se, is still great, making some use of the "video game" sound effects Herman Li loves so much. 8/10
06. A Flame For Freedom: a ballad type of song, similar to Trail of Broken Hearts. Some excellent guitar on this track, again disproving the notion that Dragonforce can only play fast. 7/10
07. Inside the Winter Storm: another powerful track, that hits you hard from the beginning, with another "epic" sounding solo in the middle. This song again, sounds like it's title. 7/10
08. The Warrior Inside: well, this is really the one track I honestly disliked. Same old Dragonforce here, not much to say really. 5/10

Bonus Tracks:

09. Strike of the Ninja: wow, only 3 minutes? On a Dragonforce song? This is a really cool little song, with very ninja-like guitar playing. 8/10
10. Scars of Yesterday: the intro feels very old-school video game like, almost like Ninja Gaiden. For me, the is definitely not a bad thing. It's one of the strongest songs on the whole album, which makes me wonder why it's just a bonus track. 9/10
11. E.P.M. if the intro to Scars of Yesterday sounded like an old-school video game, the intro to this IS an old-school video game. This is another really good track, makes it worth buying the bonus edition of Ultra Beatdown. 9/10 // 8

overall: 7.7

Reviewed by: DragonForceFan2, on september 08, 2008

Sound: Reasons to Live has a very death metal/grindcorish feel intro and then goes on to normal DragonForce and has catchy vocals and good guitars. The guitar solo has real nice slow drumming and some bass and the guitars are slightly less fast than usual but you know, fast isn't everything. Then it goes to fast drumming, unnoticable bass, and real fast guitars again like usual. Heartbreak Armageddon has yet another nice intro and a little guitar solo in the beggining. Then after that it's DragonForce. Then at 3:57 starts a lovely slow part which ends at 5:19 into a normal DragonForce solo. The Last Journey home features some soothing acoustic guitar and fun riffs and is not a DragonForce slow song, but a normal paced song of theirs. It has a nice slow part as well. The Fire Still Burns is pretty average. This one sounds especially like Through the Fire and Flames. Inside the Winter Storm is good has a great intro, and yet another slow part which some classical piano, bass, and vocals, yet it dosen't last very long. It has a great guitar solo. Heroes of our Time has a cool intro, catchy parts, a great solo, and an awesome outro. The Warrior Inside has an epic intro which makes you feel happy and an outro that might make you even she'd a tear of joy. Now the best song in this album is for sure Scars of Yesterday. One of the best DragonForce Intros, great lyrics which are catchy and have a non-fantasy meaning which seems to do something about sorrow and sadness about someone who died. And a real fast solo somewhat like the solo of One by Metallica then an awesome keyboard solo that follow. And a great outro with nintendo sounding keyboards and vocals. Strike of the Ninja has yet, another epic intro, and some awesome guitar riffs and solos and catchy vocals. E.P.M has a real awesome very nintendo-sounding intro but not much is too exciting after that. A Flame for Freedom is an epic DragonForce slow song with awesome keyboards, vocals, and a guitar solo. // 8

Lyrics and Singing: The lyrics are, with the exception of Scars of Yesterday, nonsence fantasy lyrics but still the singer has a great voice, in the studio and live, and the vocals are catchy throughout the album. If the lyrics weren't fantasy nonsence in every song then it would be perfect. // 7

Impression: The most impressive songs are Scars of Yesterday, A Flame for Freedom, Inside the Winter Storm, and Strike of the Ninja. Yes, especially with all the awful artists we have today it is great compared to other artists. I love it because it's just awesome in many ways. I hate about is that again the drums sound almost exactly the same in every song, except in the slow parts, the bass is nearly non-existant, and that the lyrics are fantasy nonsence. I don't have the album yet, although I plan on getting it so when I see DragonForce live in November I'll have something for them to sign if I get the chance. I just heard all the songs off YouTube and MySpace. Overall this is a great album compared to all the crap we have now a days in the music industry and that almost all old great bands are going downhill and that the new stuff emerging is filled with crap, but in the mainstream, this is one of the few great mainstream bands, and you can still find a lot of great stuff in the underground music industry. // 8

overall: 7.3

Reviewed by: ytse Jammer, on september 01, 2008

Sound: Some worship them, others hate them with a burning passion. Ultra Beatdown is the latest offering from the speed/power metal band Dragonforce. The sound is very similar to 2006's Inhuman Rampage with a million guitar tracks, soaring vocals, cheesy keyboards and epic drumming in practically every song. Don't get me wrong on CD it sounds great (I'm not going to discuss the live sound as it isn't relevant) really full and over powering. The video games sounds make a return with some really weird effects going on which give Dragonforce their distinct sound. If your a fan of previous Dragonforce albums then this will sit somewhere between Inhuman Rampage and Sonic Firestorm with elements of both mixed in. However there is nothing new to attract new fans to Dragonforce and it bugs me that many of the new riffs and solos are basically recycled from previous albums. Melodies and chord progressions in certain parts give the feeling that Dragonforce may be running out of ideas. Mix wise I miss the bass from Valley of the Damned, something that really caught my ear on this and Inhuman Rampage is that the bass is boring and weak. Following the guitars and with a few octave runs, the bass is easily forgotten. The keys are pretty much what you would expect cheesy and at times overpowering. The only new elements I can think of are the breakdown in "Reasons to live" and the intro to "The Warrior inside". // 8

Lyrics and Singing: What is there to say about the lyrics on a Dragonforce album? cheesy as hell and seemingly getting worse on each album. ZP's voice is OK and he pulls off the epic delivery in most songs but it's what he is singing about that will irritate most people. "So far away", "Shining", "Flying", "Lost", "Tonight". I dare you to drink a shot every time these words come up on this album. // 6

Impression: Reviewing this from someone who doesn't mind Dragonforce I would say it's just about worth picking up. It does get better with more listens and it just about gets away with being better than Inhuman Rampage. There are a few tracks that will grab your attention however most are mediocre and "been here before" will spring to mind.

01. Heroes of our time - a decent opener but soon forgotten. 6/10
02. the Fire Still Burns - really dig this track, however the lyrics scream TTFATFs. 7/10
03. Reasons to live - my favorite track on this album. Crushing intro and a cool middle bit. 9/10
04. HeartBreak Armageddon - very sonic firestorm, another decent track. 7/10
05. The Last Journey home - oriental sounding with a variety in structure. One song that does stand out as being different. 8.5/10
06. A flame for freedom - the intro reminds me of a Christmas carol. I really hate the Dragonforce "Ballads" that end up on every album. Boring as hell. 4/10
07. Inside the winter storm - sweet intro, again a nice dual harmony breakdown. 8/10
08. The Warrior inside - I love this song. It's techno intro is great and it's great way to end the album. 9/10 // 8

overall: 9.3

Reviewed by: aenimafist, on december 18, 2008

Sound: I bought this album anticipating a good follow up to Inhuman Rampage, not expecting this one to be a classic. Everyone seems to have that attitude now-a-days: the next album a band releases will be the best of their career or something. They have really high expectations like for the new Metallica. It was okay but everyone was freaking out.

Anyway I listened to this album a few times and thought it was okay but after hearing it many more times I realized this CD is a lot better than I initially thought. The featured track Heroes of Our Time actually isn't too bad like TtFaF was. Reasons to live is the best song on this album hands down and it seems like most people agree with me. A lot of people don't really like Warrior Inside though but I think it is a great track to end an album on. Heartbreak Armageddon has to be the dumbest song title by this band but the song holds it's own despite the title abuse. // 9

Lyrics and Singing: ZP is my homeboy. This guy is an incredible vocalist and has the perfect voice for this power thrash genre of DF. Along with leading the band to musical victory, ZP crafts vocal melodies surpassed only by few. His best performance is on Reasons to Live because his whole vocal range is expressed. Warrior Inside is his second best but the ending to Heroes of Our Time was a little too predictable. The epic lyrics about battles and fighting through life where the sun shall rise again sometimes make me laugh but without such obscure lyrics it just wouldn't be Dragonforce. // 10

Impression: The thing that annoys me the most about DF actually wasn't perpetrated by the band but by RoadRunner Records liscencing TtFaF for Guitar Hero. Anyone who is fan of the band just because they played that song on Guitar Hero, especially that 100% fink, cannot call themselves a fan.

Whew! Thanks for letting me say that.

Okay, Ultra Beatdown stillisn't as good as Inhuman Rampage or Sonic Firestorm but it might be better than Valley of the Damned. I'm not really sure because each album is unique in it's own way and stands out differently. Strike of the Ninja was a cool addition to the record in the special edition but I wish Dave would have gone to a standard four-feel rather than hitting the snare on all beats in the chorus. Overall this album was a success and Dragonforce seem to be having a very popular tour with Turisas right now. This record has the best album booklet DF ever put out... just throwing that out there! // 9

overall: 6.7

Reviewed by: Bloodtrocuted, on september 02, 2008

Sound: Dragonforce has always provided that hyper-speed, ripping guitar, with equal parts melody and equal parts mindless notes. This album is no different, they give their audience the exact same energy they had in Inhuman Rampage. Occasionally, they start a song with a feel that can only be explained as Sonic Firestorm style. Essentially, Ultra Beatdown is a mixture of all their past albums. Songs like "The Fire Still Burns" and "Last Journey Home" positively wreak of Sonic Firestorm.

Dragonforce also throws in a lot of techno inspired video game sweeps and crazy noises in this one. Almost obnoxiously so, and it can get a bit irritating. But essentially, this is a solid album, especially if you're driving at night and need something to keep your heart at five hundred BPM. But one can only wonder why they didn't strive to make something more unique. A lot of it is cookie cutter, and they could have done a lot more. A few tracks seem more like they deserve to be on Dance Dance Revolution, rather than booming out the speakers of a passing truck. Either way, this band has put a lot of effort into this album. // 7

Lyrics and Singing: ZP Theart delivers his unique sound once again, and it's as awesome as ever. He can hit notes that make the songs a lot more distinct. Their lyrics, however, are lacking. As corny and shallow as ever, their songs have a certain repetitive nature, and an overabundance of 'eternity' 'freedom' and 'far away'. My question is, how much better could they be if their lyrics were as driving as their guitar? However, if you numb your mind to the lyrics and pay attention to the overall sound, it's okay. // 5

Impression: This band has serious potential to be a borderline cultural force, with their particular brand of inoffensive nonsense, zany energy and amazing guitar. What they haven't done is try to change that. A few good songs from this album are "Reasons to Live", "The Fire Still Burns", "Last Journey Home" and "Heroes of our Time". If their next album contains deeper lyrics, more structured guitar with less random solos, and a better grasp of their overall sound and intention, this band could kill. // 8

Comments

[a6l6e6x1]

yeh dragonforce
quite similar to inhuman rampage tbh but fun all the same

[Shabalaba]

Hm maybe i will give it a shot but they would be a lot better without the lame lyrics

[ytse Jammer]

Better than inhuman rampage, not as good as sonic firestorm or Valley of the damned. It's ok. Reasons to live and the warrior inside are my favorites

[J.J.G.]

yeah i've noticed in the last two albuns that i had that the lyrics were lame. i don't realy mind because i just listen to DF because of the insane guitar riffs, but some reasonable lyrics would help them in conquering the non-guitarist audience.

[Shazazmic]

Ultra Beatdown!

The 40 minute furious masturbation session caught on tape!

[King Kobra]

Not as good as Inhuman Rampage, on par with Sonic Firestorm, and I'm not a fan of Valley of the Damned so much better than that. The solos are still epic and the shredding continues! Favs are Heroes of Our Time, Inside the Winter Storm, The Last Journey Home, and The Fire Still Burns.

[y-e-a-r-z-e-r-o]

Shazazmic wrote:

Ultra Beatdown!

The 40 minute furious masturbation session caught on tape!

lolz + the influx rate of steel...divided by pi
havent heard it yet i am a fan of inhuman rampage...
i shall piratebay it....(oops...coughcough)

[KingCheesehead]

I like Strike of the Ninja... it's catchy, but mainly because it's only a little over 3 minutes. :P

[dobby240]

i hate dragonfarts... the guitarists are awesome dont get me wrong but ther singer and everything else gets on my nerves

[Savage Animal]

lol they have the worst song names ever...my all-time favorite though is Operation Ground and Pound...sounds like the name for a gay porno

[ravenking2005]

guys i've gotta be honest here. i'm not feelin' this album. i feel as if they haven't matured at all.. its the same thing... all in the same key... all very very fast.

and dobby240. buddy. wtf are you talking about? these guys suck live. they use ProTools to speed up their guitar tracks because they can't play them at regular speed.

[Metallicaloveu]

I as gonna see them at Reading but Joey broke his bloody ankle!!! Argh!!

[Metallicaloveu]

I meant that for the slipknot thread....^^^

[Ikary]

ravenking2005 wrote:

guys i've gotta be honest here. i'm not feelin' this album. i feel as if they haven't matured at all.. its the same thing... all in the same key... all very very fast.

and dobby240. buddy. wtf are you talking about? these guys suck live. they use ProTools to speed up their guitar tracks because they can't play them at regular speed.

[Citation needed]

[SamTotman]

Been to see then live twice, third time next month. They are amazing live, tbh, ignore the idiots who take awful cam quality videos and post them up "OMFGDRAGONFORCESUCKSLIVEOLOL"

I really like this album but it won't beat valley of the damned.

[SamTotman]

Ikary wrote:[Citation needed]

haha

[Soroki]

Dragonforce is great at making almost every song sound exactly like their other ones....

I have to say...this is music meant to impress people who think anything over 150 BPM is good...

[SsPunk]

Soroki wrote:

Dragonforce is great at making almost every song sound exactly like their other ones....

I have to say...this is music meant to impress people who think anything over 150 BPM is good...

+1

I saw them live with a friend once.

Tbh, yeah, they were rubbish :| i dont understand why people get so hyped up about them.

Oh right.

Guitar hero.

SsPunk wrote:

Soroki wrote:

Dragonforce is great at making almost every song sound exactly like their other ones....

I have to say...this is music meant to impress people who think anything over 150 BPM is good...

+1

I saw them live with a friend once.

Tbh, yeah, they were rubbish :| i dont understand why people get so hyped up about them.

Oh right.

Guitar hero.

The hype existed long before they were ever on guitar hero. It was just the quality of their music.

Checked.

[Dr-Funkenstein]

Might check this album out, but Heroes of our Time was pretty uninspiring really.

Is there anything to rival 'Soldiers of the Wasteland' or 'Disciples of Babylon' on here?

[MT in Austin]

Speed over music.

Li and Totman are talented and fast but the music just tires me out. Maybe if the singer was better and songs had some variety, it would be more interesting. 6-8 minutes of non-stop double bass gets old quickly to me. There is a reason why classic video game music is usually only 15-30 second loops. Spped loses its impact after minutes of the same thing over and over again.

[power_gamer_6]

Fuck yeah, DragonForce!

[markojuo]

all talent in music in the end leads to song writing skill. whoopdidoo with the speed and all that, if you enjoy watching someone vibrating their right hand really fast, then be my guest, but skill can NEVER replace sound. If you cant write songs that are even the least bit differentiating then ask yourself this. are you really that talented?

[mvtan]

they are backkkkk

[Cyanide86]

I dont know what's the big deal about this band.Bad music,bad vocals,bad solos.Just because everything is fast,so what?Solos sometimes sounds like music from videogames,very bad. 1/10

[HostileFTW]

5/10

Lyrics are nonsensical, all the songs sound like every other one, there is rarely any variety. The only redeeming qualities are of the 5 minute solos without ZP singing, but they still can't play it live.

[PleaseDie]

markojuo wrote:

all talent in music in the end leads to song writing skill. whoopdidoo with the speed and all that, if you enjoy watching someone vibrating their right hand really fast, then be my guest, but skill can NEVER replace sound. If you cant write songs that are even the least bit differentiating then ask yourself this. are you really that talented?

Well said.

[guitardood666]

to be quite honest, i like dragonforce but it would be nice to hear new drum beats and new guitar lines than just the same power chords palm muted really fast

[guitardood666]

In the verse they are palm muted really fast, but the solos still sound pretty much the same

[Vectrox]

Dragonforce = Fake Speed
Necrophagist = Technical Speed

[Jugulator_cro]

Ultra Beatdown sounds more mature, and is the most diverse album by the metal gods, Dragonforce

Did he just call them that?

[SerpentineVIVIV]

I really liked this record, I used to be a Dragonhater but after I saw em at Rockstar they blew me away. They honestly performed much better than expected, and this album is definately their best. They've cleaned up their act, and they definatly have made themselves better artists by slowing down and differentiating their songs from others (although its an honest truth that with Dragonforce, you're getting Dragonforce, so their are going to be similar songs).

[Bard_of_all]

Did he just call them that?

Holy ****, he did. I like some of Dragonforce's old stuff, but they are NOT metal gods. More like technical riffers.

[jakewynnrocks]

Metallicaloveu wrote:

I as gonna see them at Reading but Joey broke his bloody ankle!!! Argh!!

im pretty sure thats slipknot dude....

[The JesterHead]

DragonForce is a studio band, and a studio band only. Being "fresh" is cool, but being repetitive and annoying? Not really...

[GuitarHero1081]

14 Tracks? That can't be right =|, he must be talking about the special edition DVD, but oh well, Dragonforce rules, going to get the special edition disc shipped in the mail next tuesday =]

[Brad52]

SamTotman wrote:

Been to see then live twice, third time next month. They are amazing live, tbh, ignore the idiots who take awful cam quality videos and post them up "OMFGDRAGONFORCESUCKSLIVEOLOL"

I really like this album but it won't beat valley of the damned.

comng from someone named SamTotman

[King ofKumbucha]

ravenking2005 wrote:they use ProTools to speed up their guitar tracks because they can't play them at regular speed.

wow you actually believe that?

[xiempie]

lol @ cover

[kumamilesbear]

SamTotman wrote:

Been to see then live twice, third time next month. They are amazing live, tbh, ignore the idiots who take awful cam quality videos and post them up "OMFGDRAGONFORCESUCKSLIVEOLOL"

I really like this album but it won't beat valley of the damned.

seriously man, they are so overrated. i know the guy who did the video editting shit over in the netherlands for their grasspop performance, and i was watching the vids, and honestly, if a band is gonna write a song, they need to make sure that they can play at least 80% of the song accuratly in a live situation. for ttfatf, about 75% of the notes were missed. so, yah. they ****ing suck live.

[Tubyboulin]

I Like it the little piano bit in Heroes of our Time is beautiful, and the melody in HeartBreak Armeggedon is awesome.

[Devil_Driver23]

all talent in music in the end leads to song writing skill. whoopdidoo with the speed and all that, if you enjoy watching someone vibrating their right hand really fast, then be my guest, but skill can NEVER replace sound. If you cant write songs that are even the least bit differentiating then ask yourself this. are you really that talented?

TOO TRUE!

[ordinary_story]

Reasons to Live has a pretty sweet solo....infact the only thing i listen to in their songs is their solos....rest is just ordinary same old s.hit...that being said there are some really sweet tunes on this...

[gazeemyth]

Their music matures subtlely? Perhaps too subtely...Dragonforce seems to be trying to go the route of Iron Maiden and AC/DC in the snese that they release the same song for 3 albums. Lets face it, every song they play is just "Through Fire and Flames" with diffrent lyrics, the diffrence is when you can't live up to anything live, that whole one song bit doesn't quite cut it for you. Ultra-Beatdown is no diffrent than the other two albums, with no maturity at all, the only diffrence is they suddenly decided the album names being put out by people weren't lame enough, so they got into a contest with Metallica to see who could produce a shittier album title, and while close, Dragonforce took the cake in that competition.

[gazeemyth]

Other three albums...brain fart.

[Arycama]

I really like this album, I like each album more and more, Valley of the Damned may be the most diverse, but not overal as catchy and epic feeling, sonic firestorm is awesome in just about every way, still a little bit of diversity (Prepare for War, Dawn over a New world) Inhuman Rampage, all out intensity and speed, I love it, Ultra Beatdown however is just amazing.. Dynamic and diverse songs, even catchier melodies and lyrics, still just as long and as usual, lots of great guitar solos. I will be seeing them live for the second time in october, they were great. Last Journey Home is my favourite track. Also they play in a few different keys.

[BlisteringDDj]

gazeemyth wrote:

Other three albums...brain fart.

+666

[D&DLover]

I love Dragonforce. Ultra Beatdown is definitely one of my favorite albums. I hate all the guitar hero people obsessing over them "ZOMGDRAGONFORCEISFASTESTEVERZ!!1!!1!" They're fast,yeah, but there's better and faster.
I just like listening to their music. I like the catchy harmonized guitars and vocals and the overall sound. if you don't like them, just don't listen to them. Don't be an *******. i don't go around insulting your favorite bands...

[D&DLover]

And they have improved live. They can at least manage to play most of their songs live now . watch a video from the Mayhem fest.

[reelbigfish432]

Ultra Beatdown is an epic, sweeping, grand collection of infectious guitar anthems that’ll inspire all who listen to either pump their fists in the air or pick up a guitar

OR snap the cd and think how crappy and childish the songs are

[IamGod 666]

Arycama wrote:

Also they play in a few different keys.

sold me

[AngelWolf]

this album made me work a **** load faster than normal... hehe infact the whole discography makes me do anything.. fast.. hehehehehehe

[Thienskater]

bought the album yesterday along with the new slipknot album. To be honest, each track sounds the same.

[wasp2020]

It always makes me laugh when people jump on the bandwagon and say how Li and Totman are just "mindless technical shredders", when they're always playing a melody. It's just that the melodies usually aren't very good. But to compare them to the likes of MAB or Malmsteen in terms of tastelessness is just stretching it. They're playing catchy, upbeat party rock, they're not going to shred up and down in harmonic minor. Also how "every song sounds the same". Or "they're all in the same key". You guys sure are clever and original, but think of some original criticism after 10 years. Yes, it's been that long.

As for the album, one of the best they've ever done. More varied then VotD, and much better then that "lolz look guys we're being heavy and metal" forgettable piece of crap Inhuman Rampage. Even though Sonic Firestorm is pretty much a perfect pop record (yes, I said pop), Ultra Beatdown is much more interesting to listen to (and much better recorded). And it brings back everything that they threw away in Inhuman Rampage - upbeat major tonality, got rid of the ridiculous screaming, brought back strong backing vocals, and is much, much more catchy. Basically, everything that makes Dragonforce, Dragonforce. With the weakest tracks being the first and last, personal favourites are the midtempo Last Journey Home (yes, a midtempo Dragonforce song), Heartbreak Armageddon (because of the actual guitar solos), The Fire Still Burns (for a fantastic chorus), and Reasons to Live for having the best and catchiest solo section they've ever been able to write.

[mightmuffin]

Can't wait to see them live next month it will be awesome. I've got the album and it's realy good not as great as valley of the damned or sonic firestorm but better than inhuman rampage.

[SharpObject]

"Metal Gods"? Please...

[chuckflan333]

I don't know if anyone's gonna believe this, but Dragonforce definitely picked up their live game.

I saw them the 19th on mayhem and the ywere a lot, and I mean ALOT better than most people seem to think.

Meh.

[Nycto]

I'd like them more if every song didn't sound exactly the same.

[UK4tw]

I've seen them live three times now, I don't know why I kept going back because they were horrible each time, good to hear they've picked their live game up a bit though. I'm sick of their sound now, I think it was just a stage, novelty band imo.

[cow7]

yep. they have been writting the same song over and over for years.
i'm so tired of people asking me. "can you play dragonforce" when i am playing guitar.
and they better have learned how to play better, cause from what i have seen of their playing, seems like they have extended their love of computer games into their solos, and used the computer to clean em up

[pootoob]

Soroki wrote:

Dragonforce is great at making almost every song sound exactly like their other ones....

I have to say...this is music meant to impress people who think anything over 150 BPM is good...

+100
I liked dragonforce back in the day, but then i hit puberty and got a real taste in music. However, I am keen to check out some of these slower songs.
I bet they made them so people will say ZOMGDRAGONFORCECANDONETHING!11!!!1!!11

[Eternium]

SharpObject wrote:

"Metal Gods"? Please...

That's what I was thinking.. DragonForce is purely a showoff band. All songs sound the same.

[KingCheesehead]

It's a pretty good album. I noticed enough diversity (seems to be a little more techno/dance influence then there was before in some songs) in these songs to make it recommendable over their other albums. I wish people would stop hating these guys. There are other arrogant bands out there making music three times as worse.

[zekk]

Honestly, I've never been impressed with dragonforce, they're much better power and speedmetal. They're not even that catchy, which is the only forgivness I give bands like FallOutBoy and such (bearing in mind, dragongonforce is, IMO, the FallOutBoy of the Metal Genres)

[iamhamsterboy]

Come on guys. The lyrics aren't that bad. In fact they are actually really amazing. Now this is gonna piss tons of people off but it ain't just fantasy. It's RELIGIOUS. Not so sure about this album in specific, except Heroes of Our Time, but their music has MANY Christian undertones. They really do rock, 1 because their songs are NOT exactly the same, nor do they sound it if you listen, and 2 because they aren't afraid to SAY WHAT THEY MEAN. Whether it sells or not, this is them, and personally I believe they rock.
PS, anyone who thinks they speed their music up, try playing it. Look it up, and play it. It's not that bad, they just us unorthodox playing methods, but NO speeding up whatsoever.

[F8iscruel]

im tired of people putting down bands just because they like to be bandwagoners. seriously dragonfroce is a catchy band, i love harmonies which is why dragonforce is one of my favorite bands. seriously if you can ong say, they speed their songs up or that they cant play live or that they have stupid lyrics (not stupid but cheesy haha) well totman writes all their songs, and from what i hear he drink Alot, so chances are they were written while he was drunk, or he just want to have fun because lyrics arent the main stay of this band its the keyboard and the guitars. and although im not sure ive heard dragonforce sometimes get smashed before their set so thats why they suck live sometimes, i mean my friend went to see them and his only complaint was that the songs sounded the same, but they did play good. and honestyl if you hate a band why did you come to look at their album reviews, just to flame them because your on the bandwagon not nice.
also what do herman use in the heros of our time solo im still trying to figure it out, its at 2:42 in the 4min video?

[iamhamsterboy]

An by the way, they don't suck live. At least not anymore. I saw them August 1st at Mayhem and they rocked. Granted I did see a video of them on Attack of the Show(look it up on G4tv.com) and they were out of key pretty bad. That was from when Inhuman Rampage first came out. They've cleaned up their live act alot, and they sounded wonderful.

[BiOhAZarD722]

... i personally dont like this band.

[bucketned]

heart break armageddon has to be the gayest title ever

[pantalliCOBHC]

kumamilesbear :
SamTotman wrote:

Been to see then live twice, third time next month. They are amazing live, tbh, ignore the idiots who take awful cam quality videos and post them up "OMFGDRAGONFORCESUCKSLIVEOLOL"

I really like this album but it won't beat valley of the damned.

seriously man, they are so overrated. i know the guy who did the video editting shit over in the netherlands for their grasspop performance, and i was watching the vids, and honestly, if a band is gonna write a song, they need to make sure that they can play at least 80% of the song accuratly in a live situation. for ttfatf, about 75% of the notes were missed. so, yah. they ****ing suck live

if this is true then im their producer. And for your information no, they don't speed up their music.

[Metonyx]

Wow the name sucks balls (as well as ALL the song titles), and the lyrics may be, again, about "moonlight", "fire", and "hearts" but the guitar work is FANTASTIC!

[Highwaytohell]

Every band has it's hangups
Dragonforce's happen to be cheezy power metal lyrics with every drumbeat sounding damn simaliar and the inability to function as a live band (well the guitarits anyways) I personally think the idea of playing music that fast while drunk is downright immature and retarded. I do not believe in playing gigs drunk and I think the guys from dragonforce definately need to have fun but be more serious about their live show.

[Vadrae21]

I saw them live at mayhem and they were amazing..as well as every other band they're...well except mastodon they sucked ass.

[Rutherford]

i love dragonfroces sound its really unique but thier lyrics arent that good

[Baa I'm a Sheep]

.....they play fine live,I've seen them four times and they can play the songs just fine.
The majority of people here saying they cant have either a)never seen them live, b)have seen one of the very poor videos circling youtube and decided that must be what they sound like at every gig or,my personal favourite,c)decided to join the ever growing "OMG DRAGONFORCE R TEH SUXORZ" hatewagon,not for any personal dislike for the band itself but more because its what everyone else seems to be going about saying (at every possible opportunity...)in a vain attempt to sound cool.

[gizmodious]

THANK GOD ITS OUT!!!! (runs out on work, heads straight for rasputins)

[gizmodious]

Vadrae21 :
I saw them live at mayhem and they were amazing..as well as every other band they're...well except mastodon they sucked ass.

What was up with that anyways? Mastodon is known for being bad-ass live and they sucked in their california shows. Maybe they don't like opening...

[mjones1992]

im tired of people putting down bands just because they like to be bandwagoners. seriously dragonfroce is a catchy band, i love harmonies which is why dragonforce is one of my favorite bands. seriously if you can ong say, they speed their songs up or that they cant play live or that they have stupid lyrics (not stupid but cheesy haha) well totman writes all their songs, and from what i hear he drink Alot, so chances are they were written while he was drunk, or he just want to have fun because lyrics arent the main stay of this band its the keyboard and the guitars. and although im not sure ive heard dragonforce sometimes get smashed before their set so thats why they suck live sometimes, i mean my friend went to see them and his only complaint was that the songs sounded the same, but they did play good. and honestyl if you hate a band why did you come to look at their album reviews, just to flame them because your on the bandwagon not nice.
also what do herman use in the heros of our time solo im still trying to figure it out, its at 2:42 in the 4min video?

Bandwagoner? So many people I know like dragonforce, and I've tried and tried again to get into it. I hate them, and I agree with everything that everyone says about the speed, key, etc. (well not the speeding up. It's possible to play). It really DOES sound like the same ****ing thing to me over and over. maybe my ears can't hear something? I've been trying to listen to them since Sonic Firestorm, and seriously...if you think its a bandwagon thing, your stupid.

[mjones1992]

oh, and I forgot to mention that the title sounds like a power ranger move.

[Jim Page]

All I can say is "STUDIOforce"....

[F8iscruel]

mjones1992 wrote:

im tired of people putting down bands just because they like to be bandwagoners. seriously dragonfroce is a catchy band, i love harmonies which is why dragonforce is one of my favorite bands. seriously if you can ong say, they speed their songs up or that they cant play live or that they have stupid lyrics (not stupid but cheesy haha) well totman writes all their songs, and from what i hear he drink Alot, so chances are they were written while he was drunk, or he just want to have fun because lyrics arent the main stay of this band its the keyboard and the guitars. and although im not sure ive heard dragonforce sometimes get smashed before their set so thats why they suck live sometimes, i mean my friend went to see them and his only complaint was that the songs sounded the same, but they did play good. and honestyl if you hate a band why did you come to look at their album reviews, just to flame them because your on the bandwagon not nice.
also what do herman use in the heros of our time solo im still trying to figure it out, its at 2:42 in the 4min video?



Bandwagoner? So many people I know like dragonforce, and I've tried and tried again to get into it. I hate them, and I agree with everything that everyone says about the speed, key, etc. (well not the speeding up. It's possible to play). It really DOES sound like the same ****ing thing to me over and over. maybe my ears can't hear something? I've been trying to listen to them since Sonic Firestorm, and seriously...if you think its a bandwagon thing, your stupid.

well i guess my statement was a little shortsighted, i men there are people who for all intents and purposes cant get into a band. i should have made that a little clearer, but you have to admit most of the post insulting DF are the same things and alot of them probally never tried to listen to them.
and just a question how could you not get into Fury of the Storm, thats probally one of the few songs you could play and most people would like (except the section right after the epic dual intro which i must admit is tedious) and im not trying to convert you to a DF fan, but listen to there songs a second time, DF takes a couple listens to, to actually like. at least it was for me.

[Zertuche]

They are terrible live.

We booed them off the stage during the No Fear tour.

[mjones1992]

well i guess my statement was a little shortsighted, i men there are people who for all intents and purposes cant get into a band. i should have made that a little clearer, but you have to admit most of the post insulting DF are the same things and alot of them probally never tried to listen to them.
and just a question how could you not get into Fury of the Storm, thats probally one of the few songs you could play and most people would like (except the section right after the epic dual intro which i must admit is tedious) and im not trying to convert you to a DF fan, but listen to there songs a second time, DF takes a couple listens to, to actually like. at least it was for me.

trust me. I've had to watch videos, listen to their music on the bus, I even know parts of Fury of the Storm (A failed attempt at a song to play for the band. haha. we're just too lazy for anything THAT technical). And yes, I'm sure there's some (maybe even a lot of) people that think it's some sort of fashion statement to hate them, and maybe there's some quirk where I live, but many people I know like Dragonforce, and I don't know one person that says they hate DF to hate DF.

[Multiplayerjon]

i need this album

Zertuche wrote:

They are terrible live.

We booed them off the stage during the No Fear tour.

You're really mean.

[SERIALTRENDKILL]

guitar work = ridiculous. drumming = pretty good but a little generic and very predictable. bass = i didn't pay much attention honestly, i usually do but i didnt for this album. singing = exactly the same as everything else. lyrics are unbearable. its just awful.

[SERIALTRENDKILL]

and i heard they were terrible live as well, ive never seen them live though. I hear they **** up too much live. and i judge bands off live performances, i wont buy an album if the band isnt good live becuase if you think about it if they arent good live, then they arent good. period. anyone can make some shit in a studio and have it sound great. ex. = rap. DragonForce aint bad though, just not my style.

[Panasonic3]

i must have been high when i wrote that review.

[Infamou$17]

Studioforce flops again... everything about this album from the cover to the very last note, was horrendous.

[AtrumVox]

Vectrox wrote:

Dragonforce = Fake Speed
Necrophagist = Technical Speed

+1

[konchman]

ok, well first, Thier singer has to stop singing stupid lyrics. Also, the only reason herman is good at guitar is because he has been practicing that speed metal crap since he was little. It's also not hard to do that because his action is set so low that if u try 2 palm mute, you play the freaking note! Listen to some real music!

[angelofdeath99]

Shazazmic wrote:

Ultra Beatdown!

The 40 minute furious masturbation session caught on tape!

hahahahah thats why they call it "uplifting" it lifts up your-you know!

[angelofdeath99]

Shazazmic wrote:

Ultra Beatdown!

The 40 minute furious masturbation session caught on tape!

btw Ultra Beat-off!!!

[Jondy]

nothing special just more same ol good ol fast ol dragonforce.

[speedofthepuma]

ok, dont go blowing your horn saying that Li and Totman cant compare to some of the greats, because they can, they are far more experienced and good than most of us will ever dream to be, as for the band i honestly think they are mediocre and overated, its the price of being popular and loved by a crowd of people who hear the name and hype and call themselves a fan, but for the band members of Dragonforce, they are doing what they love, and isnt that music? I dont care if they are horrible, the dream of music pierces the soul of anyone who loves it.....even if the singer of Dragonforce sucks some big ones

[theacademyeats]

the guitarists r good no doubt but the fact that they can't play it like it is on the album is pretty lame. i mean don't try and pretend like ur a virtuoso when ur not

[Reiatsu]

In my opinion the reason they sound as bad as they do live (and yes they are horrible live, as much as I love their albums) is that they play in harmony WAY too much on stage. To play those kinds of riffs and runs in harmony live would require absolute perfection from both guitarists which really just isn't feasible. If they were to have just one play lead and the other rhythm and maybe interchange every once in a while it would sound SO much better and they would start earning a lot more respect as guitarists. Anyone who's watched the young guitar DVD clip knows what I'm talking about. Get them to play separately and it's insane. When they play together it sounds disjointed and sour.

PLEASE DF... NO HARMONY LIVE!!!!!

[Daisy_Ramirez_]

Reiatsu wrote:

In my opinion the reason they sound as bad as they do live (and yes they are horrible live, as much as I love their albums) is that they play in harmony WAY too much on stage. To play those kinds of riffs and runs in harmony live would require absolute perfection from both guitarists which really just isn't feasible. If they were to have just one play lead and the other rhythm and maybe interchange every once in a while it would sound SO much better and they would start earning a lot more respect as guitarists. Anyone who's watched the young guitar DVD clip knows what I'm talking about. Get them to play separately and it's insane. When they play together it sounds disjointed and sour.

PLEASE DF... NO HARMONY LIVE!!!!!

Um, just watch some talented bands.
To use an overused example, Necrophagist.
Fermented Offal Discharge live.
That solo is ****ing epic, and he does not miss a single note live. WHILST SINGING.
And he plays much faster than 14nps.

Listen to some real music.
that said, I enjoy Dragonforce.

[sabres61]

good album and they improved live, saw them on mayhem on the 19th and they definitely stepped up their live performance, herman and sam are on the same page now, but sam's guitar has an edge III so later on in the set his guitar seemed a little off but not that noticeable.

[trendkill-]

J.J.G. wrote:

yeah i've noticed in the last two albuns that i had that the lyrics were lame. i don't realy mind because i just listen to DF because of the insane guitar riffs, but some reasonable lyrics would help them in conquering the non-guitarist audience.

umm im a guitarest and i find this music emotionless and sad cus honestly real guitar players like to listen to bands that can play there own stuff live

[pyritmann]

sometimes these guys are alright to hear, not to listen to though, theres a difference.

im a drummer, and i dont like their drumming, but im also a guitarist and their guitar is really cool, but its just not something i could listen to for very long, and i dont know firsthand... but if these rumors about them not being able to play it live, and using pro tools to speed it up is true then thats totally lame. but all ive done is heard so i dont know the Truth

[K!!LsWiTcH]

is it me or does the name Ultra Beatdown remind anyone of a bad DDR sequel

[jonathanonfire]

Daisy_Ramirez_ wrote:

Reiatsu wrote:

In my opinion the reason they sound as bad as they do live (and yes they are horrible live, as much as I love their albums) is that they play in harmony WAY too much on stage. To play those kinds of riffs and runs in harmony live would require absolute perfection from both guitarists which really just isn't feasible. If they were to have just one play lead and the other rhythm and maybe interchange every once in a while it would sound SO much better and they would start earning a lot more respect as guitarists. Anyone who's watched the young guitar DVD clip knows what I'm talking about. Get them to play separately and it's insane. When they play together it sounds disjointed and sour.

PLEASE DF... NO HARMONY LIVE!!!!!

Um, just watch some talented bands.
To use an overused example, Necrophagist.
Fermented Offal Discharge live.
That solo is ****ing epic, and he does not miss a single note live. WHILST SINGING.
And he plays much faster than 14nps.

Listen to some real music.
that said, I enjoy Dragonforce.

I couldnt agree more.

[Viking_Swede666]

Vectrox wrote:

Dragonforce = Fake Speed
Necrophagist = Technical Speed

HUZZAH!!!

you my friend are quite awesome.

[HarvesterOfDeth]

Everyone says 'THey suck live' so I will say when they first got popular here and played ozzfest they did mess up a lot when i saw them and they werent very good. but when i saw them in a little club with Killswitch Engage they were amazing. yeah the messed up a few times but they have tons of solos and recording a cd isnt done in one take so its not going to sound the same each time. Ultra Beatdown is a great album and 'The Fire Still Burns' is my new favorite song. and to everyone who doesnt like them I appreciat your dislike so dont show up to their shows and take up space for the people who do actually like them. theres nothing more annoying at a show than a douche standing up front whos not even enjoying the show. get the f out so i can get closer.

[Ironpriest]

I just don't like it how they use so much computer editing on the final result, it makes it sound less like music. i know its their thing, but if they just slowed the tempo down a bit then i reckon they would be taken much more seriously by music lovers.

[Ubermensche]

The problem I have with Dragonforce is that all their songs sound similar. They definitely have their own sound but I don't think it differentiates as much as the review says it does. I own SF and IR. I have trouble listening all the way through because the songs tend to sound the same. Their slow songs are cheesier than ManoWar. Some interesting guitar solos but the solos are generally not as complex as they sound. The patterns they play are not really complex or inventive...just really fast. From a musical standpoint I do not always agree with it. Speed can really kill melody at times.

[Toxtoth_O_Grady]

Its just so bland ... they dont all sound the same, they just sound bland

[flamexXxstrings]

its the worst album they made, there is not one song i like in it

[uv_abcs]

Ikary wrote:

ravenking2005 wrote:

guys i've gotta be honest here. i'm not feelin' this album. i feel as if they haven't matured at all.. its the same thing... all in the same key... all very very fast.

and dobby240. buddy. wtf are you talking about? these guys suck live. they use ProTools to speed up their guitar tracks because they can't play them at regular speed.[Citation needed]

how did you know? do you know them personally? can you perform better than them live with that speed?

[uv_abcs]

the thing that i just don't like about them is their drums and the cd cover..

[Josh Shiells]

I don't mind Dragonforce.
I try not to be biased, by it is true -
Once you hear a few songs, you're done.
I listened to their tracks Through the Fire and the Flames and Black Fire, and all their songs sound like variations of that.

perilouspete wrote:

YOU BUY AR ARBUM O I SHIT ON YAR HEAD. I'M HERMAN LI AND AV A VER WEIR SPEECH PROLEM.

Hehe...

Checked.

There were a lot of comments, just as well I have Pro Tools so I can speed up my checking.

[D&DLover]

^lolololol^

[zoso59]

Dragonforce ROCKS
and would be better if they wouldn't try to play drunk... tht was the problem w/ graspop, they tried to play drunk and they CAN'T
But yeah im totally buying the new album, its gonna be AWESOME

[Ratt n' Roll]

Im definitely impressed with their new album, It has some kick ass songs and I just love the bonus tracks, all 3 of them rule. Strike of the ninja is my favorite bonus track on ultra Beatdown.

[gr1170]

Why do people think they speed up their music?? I mean, yea its pretty fast but there is a lot of other shred stuff that is faster than anything Dragonforce has written, not to say Dragonforce isn't up there but there are much faster songs.

I have been playing guitar for only 3 years now and I can play pretty much all their stuff. They really can play everything, live too. I know they kind of sucked live a few years ago but I saw them last month and they hit pretty much everything, same speed too.

[Wizard_of_Aus]

Vectrox wrote:

Dragonforce = Fake Speed
Necrophagist = Technical Speed

+1

Too right. 'Phagist ftw.

[Wizard_of_Aus]

Vectrox wrote:

Dragonforce = Fake Speed
Necrophagist = Technical Speed

Too right, 'Phagist ftw.

[Wizard_of_Aus]

lol repeat XD

[metalifan]

sorry but I think Dragonforce are stating to get boring with every song sounding the same. I was gonna buy this album but when I listened to the 30 sec previews on itunes I figured out that they all sounded the same :S

[Mahoru]

Again... they've done the same for a 3rd time. At first it was funny (not good, just for a pair of songs), the second time it was like "uhm, I've heard this before, right?", and now is like "OMG, another time this boring sh!t?! No thanks".

I don't know what they've got in their heads, they know many people criticise them for doing the same all the time, and instead trying to change or doing something different they come up with the EXACT SAME THING again. I'm sorry, but this time I won't pass it, they're not funny anymore.

[slann101]

i liked it....but in some places i felt it was a little too bon jovi

[Sgt-Mihaly]

Jim Page wrote:

All I can say is "STUDIOforce"....

+999

[paintballaddict]

the cd i got only has 8 tracks on it i think i got ripped off.

[paintballaddict]

they used the same lyrics in like all the songs

[.:!j.man!:.]

Dont slate dragonforce, there just like any other power metal band out there doing exactly the same thing over and over again.

It wont change, thats how power metal is and always will be!

[LordPino]

It's not as gay as the other albums. Lol. I love the erotic sound of picks raping strings(6)

[pootoob]

Meh. Average cd aye. For my fix of insane guitaring, I tend to listen to Cacophony. Puts these guys to shame in the following departments:
speed
ability
technicality
songwriting
act ual music
lyrics (barely)

'Tis a shame they had a shit singer though.

[explorer58]

Eternium wrote:

SharpObject wrote:

"Metal Gods"? Please...

That's what I was thinking.. DragonForce is purely a showoff band. All songs sound the same.

actually none of their songs sound the same. that's just what people say when they're too dumb and closed minded to actually listen to the songs, so they just go off what everyone else says.

[Spartan101400]

I don't see why you guys complain, they make money, you don't, what's the problem here?

[Zappanator]

Man....while I can see why people like them for the guitar playing, I can't see why they buy the new albums. If you buy the first one you buy them all. All the lyrics are really gay and the guitar solos are nearly the same. They can play super fast but it's all in the same key and thats what makes it sound the same. If you want to listen to a real guitar hero listen to Dream Theater. John Petrucci could play both guitar parts in ever DF song at the same time in his sleep.

[Metalfreak777]

Zappanator :
Man....while I can see why people like them for the guitar playing, I can't see why they buy the new albums. If you buy the first one you buy them all. All the lyrics are really gay and the guitar solos are nearly the same. They can play super fast but it's all in the same key and thats what makes it sound the same. If you want to listen to a real guitar hero listen to Dream Theater. John Petrucci could play both guitar parts in ever DF song at the same time in his sleep.

this guy obviously knows what he's on about as he listens to dream theatre(!)


right mate heres the deal, when you can play half as good as me you can critisise these guys

[beelaal85]

According to me:
Sound: 9.9, Lyrics: 9 & Impression: 9.5. > hahahahaaaaa...

[aenimafist]

After having listened to this album for a few months it is much better now than I originally thought.

[BurnzyRock]

great album, 9.5/10 definitely

[fairycake92]

there is a vid on youtube with dragonforce doing an epic fail...mainly sam on the heroes of our time solo..ha genius! he fails so bad
but yea heard the song..i can listen to it a few times..but thats it

[Silas S Thompso]

The only reason anyone but like 20 people have heard of this band is because of Guitar Hero. Everyone thinks that if he's not screaming it must be different than every other metal band. Dave Mustaine Doesn't scream. No one from anthrax screamed. Bruce Dickinson doesn't scream. Bobby Blitz doesn't scream.

[Silas S Thompso]

Why do people think they speed up their music?? I mean, yea its pretty fast but there is a lot of other shred stuff that is faster than anything Dragonforce has written, not to say Dragonforce isn't up there but there are much faster songs.

They do speed it up. They record it slow and use a program to speed it up. I've even seen them admit it in an interview.

[evilsquirrel]

dragonforce are like marmite.....you either love them or you hate them

[sfaune92]

Their original osund make the songs soiund similar.... same problem as AC/DC and Nickleback have.

Dragonforce are good at guitar... i like their first album, but since that theey've been messing up

[sfaune92]

@ Silas S Thompso: I have discovered a lot of band because of Guitar Hero... you make it sound like a bad thing, (which it's not)

[jguneratne]

Dragonforce make the most hilarious music.

[YesYepSe]

Dragonforce just does NOT impress me. It's just like "I CAN PLAY REAL FAST; SEE? WATCH!" Maybe if they'd spend more time on helping out with those lame ass lyrics, they'd be DECENT, though.

[MasterExploder0]

Did anyone notice how the line "So far away" is in like every song? My mom actually bought this one XD

Herman Ree ftl

[SlamMetalPuppet]

dragonforce is band that has one trick and thinks that it's what everyone wants, It is shocking much like David Draiman's vocals but it's gets old at least disturbed mixed it up with believe.

[playinbass1432]

Metal gods? HAHAHAHAHA

Give me a ****ing break! Fuck UG writes terrible reviews.

[guitaringnathan]

i've watched the status of this band change among the guitar hero posers (the ones who dont buy albums and jump the bandwagon on everything) and at first they were all saying how amazing dragonforce is because they play so fast, and yesterday this guy who was praising them as gods before said all their songs sound the same and their not "that" good (his favorite band is ac/dc, and he plays country music)

[BTBAM_7]

DRAGONFORCE SUCKS ON MY WIENER!!!!!
but i didn't want to type in all all caps

[æTonyæ]

why do so many people respect their guitar playing? seriously, its speed up and it shouldn't have to be.
my favorite thing is when some idiot thinks through the fire and flames is really complicated when its mostly done on one string.

[Ratchet27]

You know what would make them better? One slow song about the armageddon... If they were to try that and add PHRASING to their guitar solos, they would sound SOOOOO much better!

[tristan_deity]

Fucking bad album... i like dragonforce but this sucks

[Siege of Power]

Not just a normal beat-down....
a SUUUUPPPPPER beat-down

[cloud041089]

you want to see live harmonies that sound GOOD?! look up old videos of racer x playing "scarified"... thats just a spit in herman and sam's faces. also in the ending solo to "mea culpa" by the human abstract. i'm sure there's much more but thats all i can think of off the top of my head.

[gizmodious]

Still not as good as Sonic Firestorm, but a great album none the less. I think that if they got a producer one of two things would happen:

1)They're ruined

2)They're given the push they need to metal greatness.

[Up The Irons 94]

I hate Dragonforce there technical skills are amazing but there not power metal or speed or prog. there just fast

[Warheart1188]

Yeah, they're NOT power metal. I hate it when they claim they are. This album is easily forgettable, just like their last two. VotD was good, but thats it.

[Brave Moonlight]

Everyone is rating this album too high.

[NoInnerKind]

Didn't they already release this album? I distincly remember the same drum beat, fast palm muting, and scales. I guess their moto is this "If at first you don't succeed, make the same album again"

[kalel182]

hmm what i dont like about dragonforce is that their songs are all similar...
i hope they improve in this album, cause my brother's gonna buy it and we don't wanna get disapointed as with GnR

[FinderofNemo]

To the first reviewer who called Dragonforce metal gods: Listen to some real metal you ****ing tool.

[Rockin4Life]

It all sounds the same

[Metalocalyptic]

They are good...but as for DF being metal gods...WTF%?@!&
for those who think Trough the fire and flames is a fast song, you havent heard 8th Commandement from Sonata Arctica And sonata CAN play it live. I must admit that DF are better now live that they were...

[djk55]

Dragonforce forever. I respect their new CD Ultra Beatdown. Hopefully people would listen to their other songs than that damn "Through The Fires and Flames". It's very disappointing most people say it all sounds the same.

[EvilAngel93]

SsPunk wrote:

Soroki wrote:

Dragonforce is great at making almost every song sound exactly like their other ones....

I have to say...this is music meant to impress people who think anything over 150 BPM is good...

I saw them live with a friend once.

Tbh, yeah, they were rubbish :| i dont understand why people get so hyped up about them.

Oh right.

Guitar hero.

Dragonforce is a joke. im sorry but thay have absolutely no talent in making music. Once you've heard one song you've heard them all. And why do people insist on calling them 'metal gods' or even good metal? If you want good metal listen to Slipknot or Killswitch or Megadeth?

Now that I'm done hating... my band's gonna change tha vocals and some guitar work to "Through The Fires and Flames" for Battle of the Bands... lol

[ultrabeatdown44]

Inhuman Rampage is the worst DF album in my opinion (but its still awesome) because all the songs sound pretty much the same (except trail of broken hearts). Beatdown is way more diverse and is the album that got me into the 'Force. I'd recommend this album over the others. =D

[pythonslayer10]

everybody lay off of Dragonforce. They are good live (unless they are drunk) which you can ask anyone who saw them live.Not all their solos are fast, and the ones that are fast are meant to be fast because that's their artistic expression style. Most of you who hate Dragonforce are either in denial or jealous that they actually amount to something and you just sit at home wishing to do something like that. Dragonforce is AMAZING!!!!!Their songs song similar, oh I don't know, because they're by the same group. If you wanna hate on music, hate on music that isn't real music, like hip hop or rap, just leave Dragonforce alone man

[the_burning_one]

pythonslayer10 wrote:

everybody lay off of Dragonforce. They are good live (unless they are drunk) which you can ask anyone who saw them live.Not all their solos are fast, and the ones that are fast are meant to be fast because that's their artistic expression style. Most of you who hate Dragonforce are either in denial or jealous that they actually amount to something and you just sit at home wishing to do something like that. Dragonforce is AMAZING!!!!!Their songs song similar, oh I don't know, because they're by the same group. If you wanna hate on music, hate on music that isn't real music, like hip hop or rap, just leave Dragonforce alone man

-alot.

[GisleAune]

the_burning_one wrote:

-alot.

Face the thruth, they are getting better.

and to those flaming the vocalist, welcome to power metal with a lot of diversity. The vocalist sings in power metal style, not deff metulz.

[TITANIUMSHREDER]

There is a lot of bullcrap being spread around about this band, about how they can or can't play or sing. To be honest, I don't care if they have to speed it up because I know that songs like TTFAF can be played that fast('cause I can play it). Besides, they SELL Cds whether you like it or not, which is more than you can say as you sit on your butt complaining about them and their "fake talent". I'd like to see just one of you come up with your own shredding melody with harmonizing guitars, insane drums, and some kind of vocals that go together and come close to what these guys have done. If you don't care about "how" they play or what it is, then don't subject yourself to these artists. They may not be "metal gods", but they can play.