Released: Jun 23, 2009
Genre: Progressive metal
Label: Roadrunner Records
Number Of Tracks: 6
Dream Theater deliver ‘the goods’ in the usual enjoyable way but remain limited in terms of how much further their routine can take them.
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UG Team, on june 23, 2009 8 of 23 people found this review helpful
Sound: I have a theory when it comes to Dream Theater: that they put out an absolute masterpiece (the first being ‘Images & Words’) but then have to go through two album cycles to recharge their batteries to their full potential again. For ‘Black Clouds & Silver Linings’ to follow this pattern, I would expect it to be anything from great to mediocre, though of course bucking the trend should never be out of the question. Things start off very nicely with the bulging goliath ‘A Nightmare To Remember’ and the rest of the album certainly ticks all the boxes. We’ve got the stock yet strangely appealing modern DT riffs, the expansive instrumental workouts and the astronomically high notes-per-minute count. Whilst still fairly dark and heavy, the Portnoy-speared ‘METUL!’ douchebaggery found on a lot of ‘Systematic Chaos’ has cooled down and left more room for traditional proggy sounds, particularly on ‘The Count Of Tuscany’ and ‘Wither’.
The most talked-about song after details of the album were first released was ‘The Shattered Fortress’, the closing chapter of Mike Portnoy’s ‘Twelve-Step Suite’, but Dream Theater have shot themselves in the foot with its creation; rather than write a piece which concludes the string of quality songs, they have crammed together as many of the saga’s themes as possible and wedged brief moments of original material to fill in the gaps, creating the musical equivalent of a sitcom clip show. In fact the whole album feels like DT-by-numbers and sadly after 10 albums fans should be starting to hear what note James LaBrie is about to hit, predict when they’ll reprise the main riff with a half time feel, and speculate on just how much longer John Myung can survive under the rubble of the mix before losing consciousness entirely.
Still, those who gape at the technical wizardry of the band shouldn’t be let down; Jordan Rudess and John Petrucci once again play until their fingers blur, though the division between ‘shred’ and ‘emotional’ soloing has never been clearer. There’s some mighty fine instrumental sections on the first and last tracks (incidentally the only two songs which stand out as being particularly great), and Rudess’ wide palette of sounds grows even more to include, reportedly, an iPhone. Whatever will that crazy character do next? // 7
Lyrics and Singing: I think Dream Theater fans are used to some pretty cheesy lyrics, but some of the material on ‘Black Clouds & Silver Linings’ really takes the cake. There’s a melodramatic ballad about writer’s block and a 16 minute epic about a car crash but the most bizarre song of all is ‘The Count Of Tuscany’, a song which John Petrucci wrote about a Count, whom he met in Tuscany, that frightened him in some way. We can only make wild guesses at what on earth happened to that poor guy, but I think it can safely be assumed that puzzled looks were exchanged at the Dream Theater drawing board when the idea was pitched. Aside from sketchy subject matter, the lyrics aren’t the best you’ll ever see, but they’re only explicitly bad on occasion; this is often the case with Dream Theater when they don’t appear to have some kind of central theme to work with. ‘The Shattered Fortress’, though, for all its musical shortcomings, is a brilliant lyrically and wraps things up the story of Mike’s alcoholism in style.
James LaBrie absolutely stuns me on this album. His melodies are often the most interesting parts in the songs and he’s definitely found the balance between operatic bombast, unornamented melody and his slightly rougher approach on heavier parts. For a guy who is often seen to be the ‘weak link’ in the band when it comes to instrumental virtuosity, he really hits every note in the exact right way. Mike Portnoy’s vocal contributions are getting more frequent, and while they aren’t half as irritating as they have been in the past, there are times where you have to wonder why they were included. Still, it affects a very small portion of the album and is overshadowed by LaBrie’s performance. // 8
Impression: Mike Portnoy has been quoted as saying ‘Black Clouds...’ is an album which is like having “‘A Change of Seasons’, ‘Octavarium’, ‘Learning to Live’, ‘Pull Me Under’ and ‘The Glass Prison’ all on one album.” Right you are, Mike, but I’ve heard those songs before and don’t need them again. It may sound harsh, but far too much of this album feels familiar; not necessarily because DT have ‘ripped themselves off’ (although the acoustic solo in ‘The Best Of Times’ may as well be ‘Hollow Years’) but because of the borderline obsessed fanbase they’ve had for many years; it feels like they are hesitant to take major stylistic steps and instead keep their music ‘progressive’ only as far as a song or an album goes, rather than a career.
If this were a debut album, it would be absolutely fantastic and there’s no denying that there’s a lot of great music here, but it’s nothing all that new from this band. Unless they experiment further and truly progress beyond what is expected of them, Dream Theater’s newfound popularity in the modern scene may be the only thing that grows. // 6
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Big Tommy P, on june 23, 2009 4 of 5 people found this review helpful
Sound: First and foremost: I am prog, not metal. Bare that in mind as you read this. I found the album improves as it progresses. I found the opener, A Nightmare to Remember, a little wearisome in parts, but for anyone who liked Train of Thought, this track shouldn't disappoint. A Rite of Passage, and Wither seem quite commercial by DT's standards, whilst not unpleasant, is a little surprising, especially the latter. Mike has finished the AA suite, so in "The Shattered Fortress", there is a resurgence of themes from the previous steps (ie, The Glass Prison, etc.). It is the final two tracks that stand out the most, the Rush-esque "The Best of Times" in a slight ballad fashion, and the epic "The Count of Tuscany" which really captures the band at their best.
Petrucci will not disappoint, well, not guitarists at least. He and Portnoy seem to hog the majority of the album, with Rudess soaring above with some gothic orchestral motifs. Myung, sadly, seems to have a diminished role these days, as the bass cannot even be heard in some parts, and when it can, is virtually supporting the guitars. // 9
Lyrics and Singing: James LaBrie helms the mic again, and in fine shape mind you, alternating between his clear, angelic voice, and his harsh, gruff screaming. Although a tenor, he still manages to find a few moments to hit a couple of high notes interspersed here and there. He does a good job, granted, a voice of his calibre deserves an album more like Scenes From a Memory, or Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, but I can't imagine anyone else more suited for the album, as the ability to alternate between styles is essential to the songs and lyrics.
The Shattered Fortress, the first of Portnoy's two lyrical compositions, is the final installment of his AA suite, and a worthy finale for a difficult battle against an unhealthy addiction. Whilst not as interesting as it's predecessors, a worthy finish.
The Best of Times, Portnoy's other creation, is about his father, whom died of cancer earlier this year. An uncharacteristic approach to lyrics (by Mike's standards), but the effect is well received when combined with the music, to make a ballad, showcasing, yet another side of the band. It doesn't however, stand up to A Change of Seasons, themed about his mother's struggle against cancer.
The only interesting lyrics by Petrucci are those of The Count of Tuscany: Italy, arcane practices of cannibalism interwoven in tradition; well, that's prog metal, I'm satisfied.
When read alone, the lyrics seem a little corny and trite, but with the music, they take on a life of their own, and all silliness vanishes. Then again, that's true for most music, as the music is often medium of expression. // 9
Impression: I will not compare this album to anything prior to Scenes From a Memory. After a few listens, I have deemed it superior to Train of Thought. Just makes the cut above Octavarium, and lightyears above Systematic Chaos (not that it was a bad album, just below my expactations of such a grouping of virtuosos). It fails, however, to compare to the likes of the aforementioned Scenes, and Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence. But hey, I'm prog, make that decision yourself.
The final two tracks I think are the prime cuts, but if it were to spawn singles, A Rite of Passage, and Wither would claim those titles. It's quite impressive after a few listens, as it caters to quite a few styles.
I'm disappointed in the metal themed direction DT has taken for the last few years, but this album far exceeds its predecessor. I do like Rudess' attempts to assert himself during the songs, as he seemed reluctant to do for TOT and SysChaos. I think Myung's bass needed to be turned up a bit, which I really found irritating.
If I had to, I'd place it in fifth place, for favourite overall DT album (Change of Seasons excluded), and third place for Rudess DT album. // 9
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wont-fool-again, on june 29, 2009 1 of 1 people found this review helpful
Sound: Following up to 2007s Album "Systematic Chaos" "Black Clouds & Silver Linings" is Dream Theaters 2nd album with Roadrunner Records, and I must say it's their best sounding record since "Scenes from a Memory" In fact I think It may be better than that album. Each song sounds different from the last giving it a good amount of diversity on the album. The opening Track "A nightmare to remember" Is a balls to the wall metal song that halfway in switches to a pink floyd-esque sound, Then you have tracks like "Wither" which are pure Ballads. The songs length is well balanced also, they range from 5 minutes to 19 minutes. One thing I really love about this album is how based it is around the vocals rather than the Instruments ("Systematic Chaos" Was a very instrument based album). Overall I think it's the best sounding album the band has ever released. // 10
Lyrics and Singing: Again- With the last album Dream Theater came out with the writing was not that great but I'd say they've gotten back to a good writing style, although the lyrics in "The Count of Tuscany" are a bit Cheesy by the end of the song you may be in tears like I was. Each song tells a different story as the songs are all Non-fiction material.
01."A Nightmare to remember": is about a Car accident John Petrucci was involved with as a child. It runs at about 16:10 and sounds very much like metallica (Lyrically and musically) One complaint I have to say about this song is at the very end Mike Portnoy does kind of a growling section and the lyrics do not match the singing.
02."A Rite of Passage"Æ is about Free Masonry, It is one of the best written songs on the album as it clearly defines what it is about.
03."Wither": is the best written song on the album, which I find Ironic because the song is about Writers block.
04."The Shattered Fortress": is the final song is a series of 12 step saga songs by Mike Portnoy, Not much to say other than don't expect alot of new things.
05."The Best of Times": is another song written by Mr.Portnoy about his father who had cancer at the time of writing the song. It is a beautifully written song filled with emotion and it has a very similar section to hollow years in it.
06."The Count of Tuscany": is the only song with pretty bad lyrics, Bad in a sense of: They are far too straight forward, Especially by Petrucci's standards. He Usually tends to write in Metaphors but he pretty much describes what happened to him out there word for word. The first half is quite cheesy the second half is beautiful.
This also happens to be Labrie's best album Vocally. His voice is absolutely great from start to finish, he gets his growls in very well and sings his usual high notes (No F# Though!). // 9
Impression: Overall It is probably Dream Theaters best album, the best songs In my opinion are (In this order) Wither, The count of Tuscany, The Shattered Fortress, The Best of Times, A Nightmare to Remember, A rite of Passage. The thing I love about this album is it's uniqueness, It's unlike anything Dream Theater has ever done for me. It stands out amongst their albums so much more than "Systematic Chaos" Or "Octavarium" did, And I remember Portnoy talking about what those albums were ("Systematic Chaos" was another Heavy album "Octavarium" had a grand theme) and I can't really say this album has a Theme, It varies so much from song to song.
And If it was stolen or lost would I buy it again? I spent 132$ on it so of course I would! // 10
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immortalsoloist, on july 01, 2009 1 of 1 people found this review helpful
Sound: Very Progressive sounding. Fantastic transitions between heavy and soft sound moments. The sound is certainly the traditional Dream Theater sound with a bunch of newer sounds added on to their signature sound. The sound is all that you can expect from a Dream Theater album.
Imagine mixing Cynic, Opeth, Black Sabbath, Yes, and Pink Floyd all together. That is the over all sound of the entire record. Fantastic piece of music. // 10
Lyrics and Singing: The lyrics are mostly non fictional and very real life based. The lyrics generally talk about real life experiences (Good or Bad) with the band members of Dream Theater, mainly John Petrucci and Mike Portnoy. James Labrie, their vocalist sounded fantastic on this record. The lyrics were very meaningful and not the usual fictional stuff you hear Dream Theater writing. // 10
Impression: I am a very old Dream Theater fan and this is my review of the entire record.
01.A Nightmare To Remember: this song is just pure heavy. The intro is probably the heaviest that Dream Theater have done. It talks about real life events on John Petrucci's fatal car accident. The song starts really heavy. To me it reminded me of a bunch of bands combined with Dream Theater, adding a little Opeth and Cynic in to play with Dream Theater's signature sound and this is what the track's intro is like. The song is like that half way through going in to a fantastic Yes or Pink Floyd type of transition with extreme mellowness. Once again the instrumental work is just fantastic on this track; the unisons between Jordan Rudess and John Petrucci are just as good as any. John Petrucci's tone this time was quiet different; the solo started like a powerful Zakk Wylde solo going in to the signature John Petrucci sound. While it was a shred solo it had a very melodic passage, which made it fast yet very musical, going in to an obscure unison between Jordan Rudess and Petrucci. So Dream Theater really gave a thunderous song to begin with. 16:10 is the time duration of extreme musical transitions.
02.A Rite Of Passage: A Rite Of Passage is another great track -definitely a great single. The drums really reminded me of the Falling In To Infinity era. To me it sounded like putting together Pull Me Under from "Images And Words”, Burning My Soul"Falling In TO Infinity" and As I Am from "Train Of Thought" all together. Like there weren't any similar riffs but the writing style of this track was certainly similar to all these tracks mentioned above due to the sound. A great single -probably the best since Pull Me Under. 8:25 of great music. The solos on this track were both separated from one another. Once again John Petrucci and Jordan Rudess did a fantastic job on the solo sections.
The drums really reminded me of the Falling In To Infinity era. To me it sounded like putting together Pull Me Under from "Images And Words”, Burning, My Soul” Falling In TO Infinity" and As I Am from "Train Of Thought" all together. Like there weren't any similar riffs but the writing style of this track was certainly similar to all these tracks mentioned above due to the sound. A great single, probably the best since Pull Me Under. 8:25 of great music. The solos on this track were both separated from one another. Once again John Petrucci and Jordan Rudess did a fantastic job on the solo sections.
03.Whither: now here is a song which really changes the mood.The guitar intro is totally chordal with great usage of reverb. The special thing about this song in particular is that it is completely composed and arranged by John Petrucci himself instead of having the others giving their input. The song is really well balanced with soft moments going in to a bunch of perfect well balanced distorted moments, very well mixed. This song is 5:25 and is the shortest song on the album, in my opinion it can easily get a nice radio play on all of the stations. If you like songs like "Another Day" and "I Walk Beside You" this certainly does not disappoint. My personal request to all of those that have been hearing these songs on You Tube: it’s my humble request that guys please be true fans and get nice versions of the songs- the ones uploaded on you tube are of terrible sound quality so please before coming up with any assumptions against the album try to be more of the true fans before judging the record. Once again this is a fantastic single and I think this song would make a great video. Overall a wonderful track.
04.The Shattered Fortress: alright this song hasn't been a huge favorite of many listeners. I personally really enjoyed it not just because I am a huge Dream Theater fan and like anything and everything that they do but because this is the ending to the entire Glass Prison Saga. It started from The Glass Prison going in to This Dying Soul, going In To The Root Of All Evil, going in to Repentance, and ending with the Shattered Fortress. I don't know why some fans were disappointed with this track because it makes perfect sense since it's the ending to the entire saga that Mike Portnoy started writing from the Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence era. I was expecting it would have bits and pieces from every song that was linked with the Glass Prison. It kind of showed that now that all has been done and said it's time to end it and the way I saw it was the person who was once stuck in the Glass Prison was now free of all the bindings and all the frustrations due to his drinking problems and was now reflecting upon the past and finally closing the entire book. So to me this track felt right in place. People said it was too heavy and that kind of makes me laugh because this is the ending to the Glass Prison Saga. No one complained about that when The Glass Prison itself came out and if I can recall it's probably one of the most heavy and memorable tracks of Dream Theater. All I can say is people just can never be satisfied. I really heard this album from the day I bought it like probably 40 times to really come up with a solidified review for every track. So coming back to this track Jordan Rudess solo was really powerful .I don't know if many of you remember the keyboard solo that Jordan played in his own way in "A Change Of Seasons" from the Live Scenes In New York DVD; well his solo on this track was pretty much like that so it's very cool. John Petrucci's solo was outstanding. He used some very odd notes in the beginning of his solo and kept it very melodic. I was very happy with it .The solo could really take you back to his playing era of "Awake" so once again fantastic job. James Labrie sounded stronger then ever. I highly recommend people to give this track a listen like 5 or 6 times before judging it. It has a lot of the old stuff in it combined with some interesting new parts. 12:49 of adrenaline rush is what I would say about this track.
05.The Best Of Times: The Best Of Times is probably going to go in as a Dream Theater Classic! It's an extremely emotional track that Mike Portnoy wrote for his father "Howard Portnoy" who passed away in early 2009. And Mike really played the drums in a really musical way and really expressed all his feelings through them which was a treat. The intro begins with a beautiful Piano Intro linked with a few bars of beautiful violin played by "Jerry Goodman" and then beautiful acoustic guitars by John Petrucci. After that it takes an intense turn in to a very beautiful intense second intro which certainly reminded me of the band "Rush" so you can imagine how amazing that must be. And certainly this song reminded me of the "Scenes From A Memory" plus "Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence" era. Then the song takes a beautiful transition in to the same melody that was in the intro and then John Petrucci gives a solo which gave me the chills. It was probably the most perfect solo on the entire record. I mean I liked all solos but this certainly stood out. Like everything was well balanced. The fast parts were executed at the perfect time and then going in to very melodic parts. I think John Petrucci was outstanding on this track. The acoustic guitars in the middle were also very well balanced. James Labrie sounded fantastic on this song as well. He really gave a lot of emotions on this track. When you hear this track it would certainly remind you of your best of times. Fantastic song Dream Theater Classic. 13:07 of beautiful and emotional music.
06.The Count Of Tuscany: this is a real treat for all "TRUE DREAM THEATER FANS" -another epic. It's almost as long as "A Change Of Seasons" so well it starts off with beautiful clean guitars and keyboards, the first few bars would certainly remind you of "Another Day" then it goes in to beautiful unisons just like they used to do back in the "Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence" era. I can certainly say the unison was as good as any of the ones on Disc 2 of "Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence" then certainly it takes an entire other transition in to this darkness. The intro towards the darkness is certainly very powerful- the first few bars would definitely remind you of Rush's "YYZ" so, yea, that is fantastic and then it goes in to a very similar structure of writing like they had during the "When Dream And Day Unite" era then it went in to another change between mellow and heavy put together which fit perfectly and then James Labrie's vocals came in which weren't disappointing. After some really great riffs and ideas it goes in to this complete mellow transition where John Petrucci plays some wonderful whaling guitars with the usage of good delay. Lets just say that section was YES meets Pink Floyd and then after that the endings were probably some of the best Dream Theater have done. Honestly speaking, the ending was as good or even better than Octavarium's ending. The acoustic guitars were amazing going in to the electric guitars intensity. It was a beautiful ending. Certainly right up there with the classic Dream Theater endings to an epic. I would certainly say this Epic stands head to head with " A Change Of Season" and "Octavarium". This song was based on the real life events of John Petrucci meeting the Count of Tuscany.
19:16 epic just mind blowing musical sound scape. I think any true Dream Theater fan who is open to change and really believes in the term "Progressive" would really enjoy this record. Using You Tube and downloading bad quality torrents is just wrong. After doing so and commenting on the album is shameful. Be a true fan really, hear the perfect mix and then pass your judgments. I waited for this album to come out to enjoy it. I could have you tubed the songs and been like oh well it's nothing special; remember quality of a product affects the views of the listener. I would give this record 10/10 because it really is what it says behind every cloud there is silver lining. The perfect blend of Heavy and Dark moods going in to more emotional and soft moods and talking about some of the worst scenarios/events and coming out of from those even stronger than ever for a better and good future and trying to find something good within the bad. Behind Every Cloud There is a Silver lining-great concept and great record.
For those fans like me who bought the special edition CD, their journey of musical satisfaction doesn't end here because there are two more discs. Disc 2 is a cover song CD and Disc 3 is an instrumental mix of the entire album "Black Clouds And Silver Linings".
Lets talk a little about Disc 2 which is such a treat.
01.Artist: Rainbow-Song: Start Gazer: alright as most of you know the original consisted of the amazing Richie Blackmore and Ronnie James Dio. Well, this track certainly was covered in a really amazing way and it really fit the Dream Theater sound. For all the James Labrie haters once you hear his vocals on this you would probably be a little embarrassed to criticize his vocals because he sang it so well. The cover is fantastic, a real treat indeed.
02.Artist Queen-Song: Funster/Flick Of The Wrist/Lily Of the Valley: this track is just epic. Queens are one of those classic bands which had a wide array of genres within their style so that certainly fit in to Dream Theater's covering catalogue. The cover was fantastic and according to Brian May (Queen's Guitar Player) it was the best cover of Queen that he ever heard. So you fans are in for a real treat with this one.
03.Artist: Dixie Dreggs - Song: The Odyssey: now for most of the die hard Dream Theater fans this is another treat- I mean if you are a Dream Theater fan then you certainly know who the Dixie Dreggs are. One of the best instrumental bands that comprised of legends such as Dave Larue on bass, Steve Morse on Guitars, and Rod Morgenstein on drums. All these guys are huge influences on the boys from Dream Theater. Steve Morse is like a huge inspiration for John Petrucci, Dave Larue is one of the favorites of John Myung’s (Bass), and Rod Morgenstein is a huge influence on Mike Portnoy's drumming along with Neil Pert and Jon Bonham. So this song was fantastically covered by Dream Theater. Dream Theater also have a very intimate relationship with all these guys: one way or the other they have all played together in side projects and have been on tours together.
04.Artist: Zebra- Song: Take Your Fingers From My Hair: now Zebra is a band that many don't know about. The band was huge in the 80's; in fact maybe even before that they were huge in their local New York area and one of Dream Theater's favorite bands. The band still exists but they play in small clubs around New York and all so they are very under ground even after so many years. Zebra was also the first band Dream Theater ever opened for. So the cover was really well done.
05.Artist: King Crimson-Song: Larks Tongues In Aspic Pt.2: this is another fantastic Instrumental done to perfection By Dream Theater. The song is originally by Progressive maestros King Crimson which consists of Tony Levin (Champan Sticks/Bass) who has been in an instrumental band with John Petrucci, Jordan Rudess, and Mike Portnoy from Dream Theater called the "Liquid Tension Experiment" and this a real treat for all progressive fans.
06.Artist: Iron Maiden- Song: To Tame A Land: now Dream Theater have been known to cover Iron Maiden for a while, but this is one of those Iron Maiden songs that even Iron Maiden hasn't played live since the 80's in their live shows. This is one of those songs that is probably one of the greatest Iron Maiden tracks and is highly under rated. And Dream Theater kind of brought it back up again and in to the light. This is the only cover which wasn't recorded this year like the rest were during the "Black Clouds And Silver Linings" recording sessions. This was recorded in 2008 while on tour in Australia. But the band sounds fantastic, each and every member sounded great.
So this was the perfect ending to the Dream Theater cover disc. The third disc is basically an instrumental mix of the entire album "Black Clouds And Silver Linings" and it's really fun to listen to. Also a great CD if you want to transcribe and work out all the riffs and ideas from the songs. So over all this has been one of the best albums that Dream Theater has written in a long time. I loved every bit of it. A huge treat for a real Dream Theater fan.
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TheLlamaMan, on june 26, 2009 1 of 1 people found this review helpful
Sound: Black Clouds & Silver Linings is progressive metal band Dream Theater's 10th studio album. The great thing about Dream Theater is their ability to write complicated music in many different styles and cram it into a song in a way that sounds amazing, and this album is no exception, for the most part.
The album can easily be identified as darker and heavier then its predecessor in songs like "A Nightmare to Remember", but it's clear that the band is not limited this style as we see much softer and emotional songs as well, like "Wither" and "The Best of Times". Each song on this album is over 10 minutes, with the exception of two, and although this seems as if its a big much the band manages to make each song feel full and will keep you wanting to listen. The sound on this album is incredibly balanced, but you can't feel but help like some of the songs drag on and others should be longer.
This album is full of great original progressive songs, like "The Count of Tuscany", but it is obvious that they were stretching at some points. For instance, the song "The Shattered Fortress" is the end of the epic Twelve-step Suite, but instead of the original masterpiece we expected, we are delivered a 12 minute song made up of recycled parts of the previous installments of the suite.
Despite some of the issues with the album, the instrumentation is fantastic as usual. John Petrucci's guitar playing abilities are as amazing as ever, and it seems like his ability to distinguish crazy shredding from melodic and beautiful lines has really improved. On drums, Mike Portnoy is amazing. He's able to keep complicated time signatures while throwing in crazy drum fills wherever he can and still keep time. John Myung's bass playing is still great and dominant, and instead of being an instrument to support the guitar its an instrument of its own that really adds a ton to the album. Finally, Jordan Rudess' keyboard playing remains fantastic and a great addition to the songs.
Overall, this album has tons of great aspects to it and will keep you listening for a long time, but there's still a few issues the band needs to overcome. The problems aren't very big at all, but this is their 10th album and by this point they should be able to fix some minor things that bring the album down. // 8
Lyrics and Singing: The lyrics cover many themes, from the death of loved ones to innocence to recovering alcoholics. The lyrics themselves are fairly simply written, but in a way that's catchy and that you can really get into. Some of the themes seem a tad repetitive, but for the most part they are well written and can be related to.
James LaBrie's vocals have improved and changed greatly since the release of Systematic Chaos. His voice isn't as whiny and is more confident. However, instead of being underconfident he is almost over confident.. I feel like he's making some of the vocals harsher, louder, and edgier then they were intended to be. His singing is great, but it is obvious that this is probably one of the weaker parts of the band. // 8
Impression: When I first got the album, I thought it was absolutely stunning. A few times later, I still think it's great. However, listening closely you can hear some parts where the band isn't as tight as it could be, or some of the songs aren't as great as they could be.
Overall, this album is great and you'll want to listen to it if you're a fan of the genre, and if you're a fan of Dream Theater definitely buy it, it's not number 1 but it's still pretty high up there. // 9
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Hammerzeit, on august 06, 2009 0 of 0 people found this review helpful
Sound: Having given this (Dream Theater's 10th release) a month or so to settle in to my music collection, I feel that this is the correct time to rate it, so that any initial bias or general feeling can be removed from the brain and a true judgement can be made. It may only consist of 6 tracks but I would still say that Black Clouds and Silver Linings is the group's best album for 10 years or so. The general sound seems to me like a mixture of the best bits off all the Dream Theater albums from Train of Thought onwards, with a bit of oldschool "Images and Words" Dream Theater sneaking in somewhere amongst the mixture. It still has it's faults but for the most part this is a pretty decent offering
Opener "A Nightmare to Remember" could fit seamlessly onto Train of Thought, but is better thought out than anything off that album. The intro and the bludgeoning riff that follows really gets the blood pumping and leads well into a verse and a huge chorus delivered excellently by a much improved James LaBrie. This then leads into a more tranquil (but not at all impotent) Pink Floyd-esque section then back into a heavy metal crescendo, featuring excellent guitar and keyboard solo's from Petrucci and Rudess, who finish the section in an excellent and technical unison. The Portnoy "Metulllz" vocals are back but work slightly better this time and fit the song much better than any such attempt on Systematic Chaos did. The song returns to the chorus and back to a melodic and haunting piano line which closes the song. This was a pretty good effort and is an effective opener, but it could have easily been made shorter but cutting the lengthy intro and outro and shortening the mid section slightly, which despite being beautiful and much needed, overstayed it's welcome ever so slightly.
The second track is the first single "A Rite of Passage". When Mike Portnoy described the album as having songs akin to "A Change of Seasons", "Octavarium", "Pull me Under", "The Glass Prison" and "Learning to Live" on it, this is definetly the "Pull me Under" of the Bunch. To compare it to "Pull me Under" would be foolish, though. There is hardly any of the Images and WordsDream Theater sound in this song. Sonically it could have been on "Octavarium" or "Systematic Chaos" and is probably a fair representation of the modern Dream Theater sound. The Mid section could have been written by Metallica, although the solos from Petrucci and Rudess are infinitly more competant than anything Kirk Hammett will ever come up with. The main riff is catchy and the verses heavy and it's well sung by LaBrie. This is by no means as good as "Pull me Under" but it's a good song in it's own right and the best choice as a single.
Track three is the only track not to have been written collectively by the band, with both Lyrics and Music written by John Petrucci. The song is a short ballad and is concise, to the point and unusually for Dream Theater, quite straightforward in terms of structure. I would liken it to "Forsaken" off Systematic Chaos but it is well beyond that, and probably lies somewhere inbetween Forsaken and "Vacant" from Train of Thought in terms of where it is sonically. The song has serene verses, a huge chorus, soaring keyboard led instrumental breaks and a Brian May style guitar solo from Petrucci. At only 5 mins long this is at odds with most of the album but is strong enough to merit a place on the album and is a welcome break from the heavier progressive madness that fills the other space on the disc.
Track 4 "The Shattered Fortress" is the final installation of Mike Portnoy's 12 step "Alcoholics Anonymous" suite, and it ends up being like a Dream Theater clip show, featuring extracts from the previous installments. Some people may slag this off as being uncreative and lazy, but I disagree, they still had to put it together and make it work. You have to judge it as you see it and what it is is a very good ending to the suite. The song stands up well in it's own right and had you not have heard the rest of the 12 step suite, you would probably not notice that it was part of one. It's well put together and there are some excellent moments in there. I especially enjoyed the Keyboard solo which was superbly delivered and despite being rather long, did not drag. This was a fitting end to the 12 step suite and I hope one day they play the whole thing live.
Track 5 is the "Best of Times" and was written by Mike Portnoy for his recently deceased father. The song was initially my favorite but is now my least favourite track on the album. The intro is acoustic based, which then leads into a rush like section and guitar intro to the main song. Labrie's vocals shine on this track, but it seemed to me right from the start that I'd heard the main hook of the song several times before. I realised where from. The string lead section at the end and Petrucci's initial guitar melody could be out of any epic movie soundtrack, which lead me to dislike it as it seemed a bit cheesy. The guitar solo at the end was pretty cool, but i'll deal with my main gripes about this section in my review of the lyrics in a minute. Not a bad track, not a great one either.
The final track is the outstanding "Count of Tuscany" which is a fitting and epic end to a solid album. The song recalls the "Images and Words" sound that define Dream Theater in the first place as well as incorporating the best bits of newer Dream Theater. The song also contains the best chorus on the album as well as the 2 most beautiful melodic moments (the first section of the intro and the last 8 minutes of the song are outstanding). The solo's are not overloaded with technical wankery, the riffs and time signatures challenging but not ridiculously mind baffling and the vocal delivery is sublime. It's 19 minutes long, but unlike the opening track of this album, it does not drag on for one second. The best Dream Theater track for years and a fitting end to the album. // 9
Lyrics and Singing: For all their musical brilliance, Lyrics are Dream Theater's achilles heel. Mike Portnoy and John Petrucci can be very capable lyricists and tracks like "The Shattered Fortress" (in fact, all of the AA saga has incredible lyrics), "A Nightmare to Remember" and "Wither" have lyrics of a suitable quality that wouldn't disgrace any bad. However some of the lyrics on this album are weak. Although heartfelt and loving, the lyrics to the "Best of Times" don't really fit the song and the end section "My heart is bleeding badly, but I'll be okay etc..." is pretty cringeworthy and the melody is pretty ordinary and cheesy. Kudos to Portnoy for giving his father an upbeat song rather than a depressing one though. Petrucci's lyrical nightmare occurs in "The Count of Tuscany" which has a strange subject matter which doesn't translate well in relation to the music and some weird lines which are completly out of place "come and have a taste, a rare vintage, all the finest wines, improve with ages" seems pointless to me, though the last part of the song (Could this be the end?...) seems competant enough.
James Labrie's vocal performance however is almost unfaultable. His voice seems much improved since Systematic Chaos, and while he will never regain the power of his voice from the 1990's, he still does an excellent job in delivering the lyrics, and making said lyrics seem better than they actually are. He is not responsible for any of the lyrics on this album (he had singing lessons when the band was writing) and in my opinion should contribute more, as his lyrics are usually better than at least half of Petrucci's and a few of Portnoy's. His voice saves the lyrics and the score in that I was going to award this section has risen because of him. // 7
Impression: On the whole, this is one of the better albums out this year and Dream Theater's best since "Scenes from a Memory". It has it's faults which is have mentioned above. It is not overly formulaic (most bands have a formula, it's how they get their signature sound) but it is cohesive and fairly potent in places. Dream Thater are still the king's of prog metal and on this showing will possess their crown for a long while yet.
Download (if you must!): The Count of Tuscany, A Nightmare to Remember, Wither. // 9
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Junior#1, on june 29, 2009 0 of 0 people found this review helpful
Sound: The overall sound of this album was up to par for the most part. I was not greatly impressed by any of it, nor was I greatly disappointed. The musicians show us they can still play at a level we all expect from them. The harmonies are spot on as usual. The editor did a great job mixing this. Every instrument has a significant part in the music. One is not too loud or soft.
As far as style, it's a typical Dream Theater album. It has an excellent contrast of fast, driving, heavy parts and slower, relaxed, mellow parts.
Those of us who are fans of this band know that the songs "Another Day", and "Take Away my Pain" were written for John Petrucci's father. If you don't know, Another day was written while he was struggling with cancer, and JP wrote Take Away my Pain after his father died. Well, now there has been another tribute. Mike Portnoy wrote "The Best of Times" after the death of his father, Howard, late last year.
This album also has the the conclusion to Portnoy's Twelve-Step Suite, based on the 12 steps of Alcoholics Anonymous. The steps of the Suite are strewn throughout Dream Theater's career. The first 3 parts are in the song "The Glass Prison" off of their Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence album. Then, parts 4 and 5 are in "This Dying Soul" off of Train of Thought. This is followed by parts 6 and 7 in "The Root of all Evil" from Octavarium. Parts 8 and 9 are found in "Repentance" on Systematic Chaos. And finally, 10, 11, and 12 are in "The Shattered Fortress"
The high rating on this album is mostly due to the vocals of James LaBrie (which will be reviewed in the "Lyrics" section of this review, and the mixing of Paul Northfield. The excellent mixing and fitting together makes this album a great listen. It earns a 9. // 9
Lyrics and Singing: A lot of people don't like James LaBrie's vocals. After listening to this album, I don't know how you could hate them. He really knows how to raise the bar. He is perfectly fitted for this band. With his wide range, he can provide excellent vocals over excellent music. For the heavier riffs of this album he really digs in and gets a dirty gritty sound that compliments the songs beautifully. And as usual, his softer voice fits for the softer music.
The lyrics were fairly weak. It's evident that Petrucci is running out of ideas as he wrote the song "Wither" about writer's block. As usual, Petrucci writes most of the lyrics for this album. Portnoy wrote "The Best of Times" and "The Shattered Fortress" due to their personal meaning to him. I give the lyrics a 7. // 7
Impression: As stated, I was not impressed, nor disappointed by this album. It's a good album, but DT has done much better. But I suppose after 23 years and 10 studio albums, they just don't have the same spark they used to. Back when they wrote Images and Words, their reason for it was to try to outdo themselves and their first album, When Dream and Day Unite. For Black Clouds & Silver Linings, they just wrote the music because they love it. There's nothing wrong with that, but if you don't try to go over the top and beat yourself with every album, then it will always just be average. For Dream Theater, the word average means good prog metal. It's not they kind of album that will make you love this band, but it will most likely peak your interest. Overall, this album merits an 8. // 8
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Acid_Rainmaker, on july 09, 2009 0 of 0 people found this review helpful
Sound: Dream Theater is a band that's known for doing there own thing and not letting the record companies shape their songs or their sound. So when they release a new album you never know what to expect out ofit, no one can tell what their sound will be like on any new recording, the only things you can count on are long songs and incredible musicianship. With their latest release Black Clouds & Silver Linings the DT boys do not disappoint. The styles and influences on this album range from everything from Yes and Pink Floyd to Metallica and Opeth. They have certainly let their heavier side take the drivers seat on this album with powerful songs like A Nightmare to Remember, The Shattered Fortress and The Count of Tuscany but still not afraid to let their softer side show with Wither and Mike's heartfelt tribute to his father The Best of Times. Overall the album shows all the sides of the band and shows they are not afraid to try new things. // 9
Lyrics and Singing: Dream Theater's fictitious story-telling lyrics from Systematic Chaos have been put to rest, the lyrics on this album all deal with real life events that in most cases are personal to members of the band.
The album opens with the first of many of the epics on this album A Nightmare to Remember. This song really brings out the heavier side of the band. The lyrics were written by Petrucci, it deals with a car crash he was in as a child and the emotions he felt throughout that experience. LaBrie's vocals are in top form, he has his darker singing style brought in complimenting the music perfectly. After the extended solo break mid-song Portnoy enters with his growling vocals which were most likely inspired by his good friend Mikael Akherfeldt from Opeth.
The bands first single A Rite of Passage is probably their strongest single since Pull Me Under. The song again written by Petrucci deals with the content of Free Masonry. The chorus is one of the catchier ones they have ever written I can only picture everyone in the audience singing along when this one is played live. Incredible solos by both Petrucci and Rudess tossed back and forth on this song.
Wither is the shortest song on the album at only five and a half minutes is a beautifully written song by Petrucci who not only wrote the lyrics but he composed this entire song without any help from the other members. Although the song is about writer's block the lyrics are written in such a way that it can be interpretted into more personal experiences and allows the listener to extract their own meaning. LaBrie's voice fits this song perfectly.
The Shattered Fortress is the first of two songs written by Mike Portnoy. This song is the long awaited closer to Portnoy's 12-Step Saga which began back in 2002 on Six Degress with The Glass Prison. This song brings together parts from all of the previous songs in the saga while also bringing in new riffs and one of the most incredible instrumental sections on the album. Portnoy has stated in interviews that he plans on performing the entire saga in its entirety to release on DVD.
The Best of Times is Portnoys tribute to his father Howard Portnoy who passed away during the recording of this album. The lyrics are more of a tribute to all the years they have had togetehr and teh memories they shared. The opening is beautifully sounding with piano and violins Petrucci plays an acoustic for portions of the song, when it picks up the song is very reminiscent of early Rush.
The final song on the album is a tale writeen by John Petrucci based on a Count him and his guitar tech met when they were on tour in Italy. John actually feared for his life. The lyrics deal with Petrucci's encounter and his fears and feelings he had during this time. The song is a true prog-metal epic, clocking in at 19 minutes it encompasses all you think about when you hear the name Dream Theater. The song shows off all of the bands different styles and influences. The only downfall this song has is the lyrics, Petrucci has become quite literal with his lyric writing instead of using a lot of metaphores like he did in the earlydays in the band which does not leave much room for personal relation to the lyrics or the songs. // 8
Impression: It is hard to compare this album with any other Dream Theater album. Each album their sound evolves and they are constantly experimenting with new sounds and ideas. Which is not a bad thing, with a prgrossive band like the Dream Theater the listener should expect each album to be completely different from the previous efforts. All of the songs have their own strengths as a new listener to the band A Rite of Passage or the Shattered Fortress would be good jumping off points to check out the bands sound and style. For a more experienced listener of Dream Theater you would definetely want to check out The Count of Tuscany or A Nightmare to Remembe. The instrumental parts on the album are by far some of the strongest in their career, as I stated previously the only major downfall I have of the album is the lyrics, not that the lyrics are bad but they just don't leave a lot of room for personal interpretation and relation with the exception of Wither.
I highly recommend this album to anyone curious about the band and fans who have followed Dream Theater throughout their career. This has quickly become one of my favorite albums in my ever expanding CD catalogue, and after a few listens it will grow on you and I'm sure it will become one of your favorites too.
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leetguitar, on july 21, 2009 0 of 0 people found this review helpful
Sound: Two long years after the release of their controversial album "Systematic Chaos," progressive power house, Dream Theater, has returned to the spotlight with their latest album, Black Clouds & Silver Linings. Once again Dream Theater has tweaked their sound and mood from previous albums, and headed in a sometimes more gothic direction with songs like "A Nightmare to Remember." Not to say all the songs have a gothic feeling, and actually far from it. This album has a range of Dream Theater not seen on past albums. Starting with a dark and foreboding head banger, and ending with a nineteen minute proggresive rock masterpiece, sprinkled with ballads, and heartwarming melodic soundscapes, Black Clouds & Silver Linings is one of Dream Theaters best sounding albums in recent memory.
For me, there is little to complain about the sound of this new album except for a few nitpicks, such as a few of Portnoy's vocals (which you get used to after a few listens) and the deep voiced talking in the AA Saga Finale. Surely detractors with poorly trained ears, who listen through generic ipod headphones will complain about the lack of Myungs bass, but if you have decent headphones, and a usable set of ears, you should have little to complain about. // 9
Lyrics and Singing: Like most Dream Theater albums, Black Clouds & Silver Linings has a plethora of lyrical topics ranging from personal tragedies and losing loved ones, to masonic cults, and writers block.
To be honest, myself, and I assume most others, don't listen to Dream Theater in search of some deep and profound lyrics, as much as we do for their amazing technical prowess. Despite this, when it comes to lyrics, Dream Theater doesn't simply dish out generic boy meets girl love stories, and goes out of their way to write about interesting and unusual topics. Sure there they can be silly at times, or just plain corny *cough*wither*cough* but as I stated, DT's lyrics are overcompensated by their amazing musicianship, and vocal meoldies.
On the topic of vocals, DT fans are in for a treat. Often criticized as the weak link of Dream Theater, James Labrie really gets his vocals just right this time around. James does a great job of balancing the high vocals with the lower, without ever sounding whinny or cheesey. I found the vocals on the "Shattered Fortress", and on the cover CD song "Stargazer" two very strong vocal performances.
Bottom Line: Some of the best Dream Theater Vocals in the past decade // 10
Impression: 01.A Nightmare to Remember: this 16 minute thrill ride of a song starts out with the distant clapping of thunder, and soon goes into an eerie piano melody which leads into one of the most epic (and sinister) Dream Theater intros ever. With a driving guitar and choir melody, cascading drum fills, and thunderous double bass, this song pulls you in, and doesn't let go till the rides over. Featuring a powerful singing performance, brilliant guitar and key solos, melodic interludes, and hectic drumming. Easily one of my faves from the album.
02.A Rite of Passage: the first single off of Black Clouds, "A Rite Of Passage" doesn't disappoint. Beginning with a catchy bass melody which quickly grows into a memorable, and driving riff. Though one of the heavier tracks, it features many SFAM type vocal melodies. By the end you may be a little bored by the repetitious chorus, but in awe of the inhuman solo of Petrucci, and a bit confused by the ending of Rudess's. Over all not my favorite song, but by no means a bad one.
03.Wither: the third track Wither is the albums ballad. And like with most DT ballads, it's usually a love/hate situation. The track starts with the echo of acoustic guitar, and soon drums and vocals kick in. The most melodic song on the album, the song continually builds up to the end, where it ends with a short queen inspired solo. The song's lyrics focuses on the difficulties of writers block, and when you pay close attention to the lyrics, it will come across as quite corny. I found that I enjoyed this song more before finding out the context of the lyrics. Still it is a good song, and props to Petrucci for his short, but more than sweet solo.
04.The Shattered Fortress: the final piece of the AA saga, and the second heaviest song on the album, "The Shattered Fortress" brings the 5 piece series to a climactic close. The song takes various riffs and melodies from past AA songs, and melds them with new ideas, to create a familiar, yet intriguingly solid track. Slowly fading in with a distorted guitar, a growling riff soon takes over, and is layered with a key melody punctuated by a snare drum. It's hard to describe, but it comes together very nicely to form an awesome riff. After about a minute and a half of the intro, the guitar goes into a soaring rendition of the "This Dying Soul" solo, and then changing to the "The Glass Prison" riff. Throughout the song you will hear past snippets from the series.
All together, the combination of old and new elements makes this a worthy ending to the AA suite. Only complaint I have is the deep voice in the "Repentance" rehash.
05.The Best of Times: The second to last track, and definitely the most emotional, and soulful song on BC&SL, the song is an ode from Portnoy to his deceased father. Starting with a beautiful, tear jerking acoustic solo, and rapidly changing pace into a Rush-esque epic. Hosting Some of the best lyrics on the album, and with a more classic prog-rock vibe, this track is sure to please old-school DT fans. Like "Wither," the song builds up until the end where Petrucci unleashes one of his most amazingly passionate guitar solos. Ever.
Even if this song was bad, which it isn't, this solo alone would make up for it.
06.The Count of Tuscany: finally, the final track. "The Count of Tuscany" is the albums epic, and clocking in at 19 minutes of Progressive awesomeness, it is not a let down. The song begins with an acoustic melody, leading into a beautiful electric guitar solo, which fades away back into a new acoustic melody. Then the distorted guitar kicks in, and Portnoy lets loose some inspiring drum fills. Riddled with catchy meoldies, time signature changes, interesting interludes, synchronized solos, and heavy riffs, This track is sure to please all Dream Theater fans, and become a classic.
Many have complained about the strange lyrics of this song, which deal about Petrucci's travel to Tuscany, where he met a count who he thought would kill him. Frankly, as long as the lyrics aren't as cliche as singing about monsters *cough*Dark Eternal Night**cough* they're good enough for me.
In conclusion, "Black Clouds & Silver Linings" is a great progressive metal album, probably the best album out this year, and certainly one of Dream Theater's best in a long time.
Great vocals, great instrumentation, and great production all lend to making this a must have for any DT fan, or progressive fan for that matter. My favorite tracks are the first and last tracks, "A nightmare to Remember," and "The Count of Tuscany."
If stolen I would impale the thief with a spork, and force him to eat shrinky-dinks till he internally ruptured, than I would throw him in a pool of battery acid, and ammonia. Than I would go buy a new one. // 9
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ironwolg, on june 29, 2009 0 of 0 people found this review helpful
Sound: The sound of this album is amazing. There are several familiar riffs which got several complaints, I personally enjoy hearing the riffs revised and changed around a bit. It's like a continuation of the other songs. So if you like hearing good riffs revised, you'll love The Shattered Fortress.
A Nightmare to Remember is probably my least favorite song on the album, a great song, but it just wasn't as good as the rest. If you enjoyed Train of Thought you'll probably love it. It's very heavy and aggressive, sure to bring out the headbanger in you. Mike Portnoy shows off his double bass skills in this song but there are also some very slow and melodic parts in the song as well as very proggy parts, so it should be pleasing to most fans. This track is 16 minutes and 10 seconds.
A Rite of Passage is one of my favorite songs on the album, I love the guitar solo. The song starts off with a nice quiet bass intro and then explodes in your face and gets quite aggressive. The Chorus is very catchy, James LaBrie's vocal melody is great. I love listening to it and often catch myself singing it(not as well as James does I'm afraid). The guitar solo reminds me of Constant Motion's solo at the begining but then it really takes off, this solo is gonna be a monster to learn. It definitely shows off Petrucci's skills as a shredder. The ending is the best part in my oppinion, Petrucci smacks is whammy bar to make this aggressive fluttering sound, he used the same technique in Under a Glass Moon and Animate-Inanimate and probably more songs that I can't think of right now. Rudess also gets to show off with an equally cool solo, he shows a few technoy effects, and a super mario brothersish sounding lick. This track is 8 minutes and 36 seconds.
Wither is a very slow melodic song, quite mainstream sounding and surprisingly short. Rudess shows us that he can play without going full blast, his parts are very melodic and beautiful and Petrucci's guitar parts compliment them perfectly. Portnoy as usual creates a drum part that fits perfectly, fortunately he's not a drummer that feels he has to show off 24/7. James LaBrie really shines in this song, his vocals are amazing. The guitar solo sounds like it was very much influenced by Zakk Wylde. Tons of distortion and tons of wah, it might hit the ears a little hard at first, but give a closer listen and you'll hear how well it fits in. Quite a depressing song. This track is 5 minutes and 25 seconds.
And now the song that got bashed on, The Shattered Fortress. The song truely lives up to its name, it sounds like a fortress being shattered by a wrecking ball(and I mean that in a good way!). This seems to be the end of the series that The Glass Prison started. There are riffs from This Dying Soul, The Glass Prison, The Root of All Evil, and Repentance. There might be more that I forgot about but I think that's it. Rudess shows a crazy solo in this one, it just has to be heard and Petrucci will not disappoint. If you're a longtime fan, you probably know pretty much what this song will sound like. This track is 12 minutes and 49 seconds.
Dream Theater gets a little tricky with The Best of Times. It starts out extremely sad and depressing, long time DT fans will recognize the acoustic solo from Hollow Years. You'll be quite surprised to hear a very upbeat guitar lick comming in and then a very happy and upbeat verse appear out of nowhere. It really lets you into Portnoy's head and shows you how he feels and felt. Very well written all around. This track is 13 minutes and 9 seconds.
The Count of Tuscany is my absolute favorite on this album. It's the longest song and every musician is great on this song, everything is well balanced. The chorus is one of my favorites by Dream Theater, it's very catchy and you'll want to start singing right after you hear it. James LaBrie adds the perfect amount of emotion to this song, the way he sings the chorus really adds the effect of desperation and fear of losing your life. The song focuses more on lyrics than crazy blazing fast solos while there are still crazy passages in the song which is why I say that this song is very well balanced. This track is 19 minutes and 16 seconds.
Now, about the actual sounds of the instruments and the voices. John Petrucci's guitar sounds are great, the best I've ever heard from him. There's just enough bass and plenty of distortion. I'm not sure what the settings are exactly but I'm definitely going to do some research on that and use them. He also uses the wah more than usual, very Zakk Wylde influenced I think.
John Myung is unfortunately not really featured on the album as much as everyone else, but his bass sound is perfect as far as I can tell. Maybe I just have a terrible musical ear as far as this goes, but his bass sounds about the same as usual.
Mike Portnoy has found the perfect drum sound. Cymbals can be heard perfectly, bass drums are nice and deep and the snare is perfect. Toms are sounding great as well.
Jordan Rudess's sounds are impossible to review, too many of them. So, moving on...
James LaBrie's vocals are great. His clean vocals are perfect and his rhaspy growlish vocals are perfect as well, everything is used in just the right spots. He adds the perfect aggression or mellowness to all songs. No other singer would fit in these songs. // 9
Lyrics and Singing: The lyrics on this album were great. A Nightmare to Remember is about a car crash, most people can relate to that and it brings you back to whatever night it was that it happened. The lyrics captured that scenario very well.
A Rite of Passage's lyrics are about the Free Masons, can't talk too much about those, don't want to get in trouble with those guys.
Withered has very sad and melencholy lyrics, if you like to listen to a sad song to make you feel better, this will be perfect for you.
The Shattered Fortress is a continuation of Mike Portnoy's fight against alcoholism which was started by The Glass Prison. Reading the lyrics you can really see where he stands in his fight and how strongly he feels about it.
The Best of Times has some very good lyrics as well. They say that the best lyrics come from the heart; they're right. The song is about his times as a child with his father who recently passed away this year. It goes from his childhood relationship with his dad to present day. It will bring a tear to your eye if you're the emotional type. Very heartfelt lyrics, my sympathies to the Portnoy family.
The Count of Tuscany is about, well, the Count of Tuscany! It's supposedly a true story about John Petrucci's visit to Tuscany where he met a Count that freightened him and put him in some situation where Petrucci thought he would die. The lyrics really take you there and make you feel like you're a part of the story. // 9
Impression: In my oppinion, this is one of their best CDs. Everything sounds great. I only have a few minor complaints.
1. The solo to A Nightmare to Remember didn't start off as well as I would have liked but it still fits in well and sounds great
2. The packaging on the special eddition isn't great, the CDs are very difficult to get out but I would still reccomend the special eddition to any DT fan.
3. I wish they had included the DVD with the special eddition and taken out one of the other extra disks, they're great and the instrumental disk is good for figuring out the songs but the DVD would have been better.
That's all I have for complaints, the CD is still great and I definitely reccomend it to anyone who's a fan of progressive music. // 10
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Greged, on june 29, 2009 0 of 0 people found this review helpful
Sound: After not being wowed at all by their last release, Systematic Chaos, I was really hoping Black Clouds & Silver Linings would be a big step up. I had heard this album for more than a month before it came out, so I've been listening to it for a while. I liked it a lot at first, but the more I listend to it, the more it faded for me. But you could say that about any album I suppose. Sound-wise, Dream Theater is miles ahead of anyone else. I think they've really honed their sound in, and it is very tight. They are still writing great music, as every song on the album is nicely done, musically. The first time I heard A Nightmare To Remember, I fell in love with it and knew it would be my favorite song on the album. However, once I listened to the rest of it, I realized that it wasn't as good as some of the other ones. The best part of the song by far is the lyrical middle section. That's just great music. The second track, A Rite Of Passage, was released as a single, just like Constant Motion was two years ago, and the song itself reminded me too much of Constant Motion. A good song, but I don't like this single-making business. Dream Theater should not be making singles, in my opinion. The third song, Wither, is a power ballad of sorts, and I think DT pull it off. I especially liked the Brian May-style Queen guitar solo by John Petrucci. The Shattered Fortress is probably my second favorite song on the album. Some have criticized it for being merely a medley of the last four movements of the Alcoholics Anonymous Suite, but I think that DT took the right plan of action when they wrote this song. I like that it recapitulates all the past parts of the saga, and adds new material to bring it all to a close. Great finale to a great concept. The Best Of Times, the fifth track on the album, is dedicated to Mike Portnoy's father, who died of cancer. It has a beautiful introduction, with piano and a violin soloist, before coming in strong. Some of the chord progressions sounded very familiar to me, but I can't put my finger on it. That brings me to the best song on the album by far, The Count Of Tuscany. I've seen a lot of people bashing this one, but don't listen to them. It is a masterpiece from start to finish. The recap of the solo at the end gives me chills when I listen to it, and it is a very fitting end to the album. Overall, a wonderful sound by the band. // 9
Lyrics and Singing: The lyrics on this album almost go together. With A Nightmare To Remember, The Count Of Tuscany, Wither, The Shattered Fortress, and The Best Of Times, there are lyrics about life experiences, and A Rite Of Passage has lyrics about free masonry and secret societies. I was trying to find a central theme here, but there is none. However, the lyrics themselves are fine. A Nightmare To Remember is about a car crash from Petrucci's childhood, and I especially like the lyrics from the middle section I mentioned earlier. The part I don't like is where Portnoy speaks the words and then does that ridiculous "roar" noise. That is by far my least favorite part of the entire album. It is pointless and reminds me too much of Systematic Chaos. I liked some of the lyrics in The Shattered Fortress, over top of the riffs from past movements. I liked how they changed them from having a problem to being past the problem. The Count Of Tuscany lyrics are intriguing, and tell a story. It's a bit of a strange story and cannot be total truth, but I think it works. James Labrie sounds good throughout this album; nothing wrong there. // 7
Impression: For me, this album had little or no direction. The things that I liked about past albums were the themes and concepts that linked everything together, and Black Clouds & Silver Linings, as well as Systematic Chaos, lacked that factor. Other albums have lacked a connective concept (Train Of Thought, Images And Words, Awake), but they still managed to be great albums because they forwarded their style and music from the preceding release. This album sounds just like Systematic Chaos, and Systematic Chaos is one of my least favorite DT albums. Ever since they joined Roadrunner Records, they have been giving lackluster effort, compared to their past works, and giving a little too much promotion. For a band that took pride in not making commercial hits and found success without making singles, they sure have taken a turn. It almost seems like sometimes they think that they can just put out whatever they want and still expect to be gods. This isn't the case, and I really hope they can turn it around and make something new and unique with a theme or concept. Don't get me wrong; I like this album a lot, but it just wasn't an Octavarium or a Scenes From A Memory. // 7
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TwistClock, on june 29, 2009 0 of 0 people found this review helpful
Sound: Dream Theater. What can I say about them. Every album has an un-believable amount of effort put into it. Every song is a new experience for me, And I've listened to the majority of DT albums. Sure, some of it sounds rather similar to their other songs, but lets admit it. This is dream theater, and they sure don't like to disappoint. It would be unfair to say that, despite the fact that this may come out to be weaker than their other albums, they didn't put any effort into this. The whole sound and feel of it, shoots this album up into my top 3 along with Scenes, and SDOIT. Octavarium being replaced into 4th. // 10
Lyrics and Singing: Ah, the one thing that has been commented on the most. One thing that is rather strange for dream theater, is this lyrics. But to be honest, they are easily forgotten. After a few listens of the album, I had pretty much memorized all the lyrics, and I was finding some very.. Awkward, and weird lyrics that, although fitting to the whole theme of a song, just could have been conceived better. I think this may be because the lack of Myung writing the lyrics; and from what I've seen, the lyrics were Petrucci and Portnoys Doing. If Myung had a little more say in the lyric side of things, I think this album would get better overall reviews. If we skip a few albums back, you can see that Myung has had some contribution to the lyrics- on this album he didn't. Maybe that's the reason, maybe not, because in the past, John and Mike have Proved that they can make amazing and Poetic Lyrics, but they are just a little weak in this album. Shame. // 8
Impression: Overall, I love this album. The count of Tuscany is the most beautiful song on here, with a nice ambient section 11 minutes in- it's the one thing that caught me, and it gives me goosebumps every time I hear it. My Least Favorite would probably be Wither, but then again, that's because I like the epics that this band makes. it's not their best album, but saying that; it should please old and new fans alike. Although over the years the music has gone a little heavy, the Progressive in them is still there, and going strong. If this album was stolen I would Go out and buy another copy, no 2 words about it. A Fantastic and Beautiful album. // 9
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JawrshyXD, on june 29, 2009 0 of 0 people found this review helpful
Sound: How can a band with such a strong powerful fan-base, after having been in existence for almost 25 years now, not have slipped into the mainstream and still be alive and well? Whatever the answer, method, or formula; Dream Theater seems to have found it. These 5 virtuosos are at it again with a new album Black Clouds & Silver Linings, which so far has seen a good bit of controversy. Upon listening to this album, it is evident why this air of discord and confusion might be around. The sound is very oriented around the heavy metal aspects of Dream Theater which have become increasingly more powerful post Train Of Thought. ut the band doesn't forget it's majestic beauty and places many melodic passages and full on ballads, reminding us that Dream Theater still has as much melodic skill as ever. The songs are filled with odd time signatures and key changes, much like any Dream Theater album, but they seem to have acquired a better understanding (if it was even possible) of how and where to place these "progressive sections". Though the album is very dark and metal at some points, they really are taking a strong turn towards their roots again throughout the entire album.
Because the album is so variant in styles, I will proceed to review each of these 6 tracks individually.
01.A Nightmare To Remember: this song starts off the album in a heavy dark progressive form. It is littered with heavy riffs and a beautiful soft section in the middle with some of the best lyrics on the album. The whole band plays very well on this track, and it is probably one of the strongest tracks on the record. A great way to open the album. My only issue with this song is the grunt passage near the end, although strangely enough Portnoy actually made it work this time unlike his previous attempts on Systematic Chaos. I give the song a solid 9 out of 10.
02.A Rite Of Passage: this song is a normal everyday post-Train Of ThoughtDream Theater song. It starts off with an interesting bass intro, and leads into the very catchy main riff of the song. Unlike the previous track, this song follows a definite formula, which is not unusual for the post Train Of Thought DT, but they do present some haunting melodies and the many voiced melody in the chorus is enough to give anyone chills. Petrucci and Ruddess are at their career heights with there fingers moving in a blur as usual. The very acrobatic solo section reprises back into the chorus almost instantly and I thought that was extremely well put together. The song as a whole is pretty solid, and is a pretty solid single. I give it a good 9 out of 10 simply because I expected a little more from DT, but I like their ability to calm their musical expertise down and write a simple formulaic song.
03.Wither: this track is nothing short of beautiful. The lyrics are very open-ended in this song and can be interpreted really anyway the listener wants them to be. it's a very strong ballad and Petrucci plays with such feeling in the solo section of this song, though it isn't his most passionate solo on the album. LaBrie is at top form again and it really shows in this song. His tone is absolutely perfect. This song reminds me of an older DT, maybe all the way back to Images And Words, it has the same kind of beautiful feel that Another Day had, only this time with a more dark and eerie twist to it. I grew very attached to this song despite it's technical simplicity it is shear beauty. I give it a 10 out of 10.
04.The Shattered Fortress: MP's final chapter in his "Twelve Step Suite" and it is a proper finale indeed. It reprises and recalls almost all the key points in the suite that have been previously presented on the last 4 albums. It has been stated that they should have had more original parts, which at first I agreed with, until I listened to the entire suite from start to finish. When you listen to it in that fashion this song is all the more powerful and makes all the more sense. It connects everything very well, and gives us an amazing dramatic finale. The boys are at their very best technically in this song, I fell in love with Rudess's strange keyboard solo in the middle, it was so free-base but extremely interesting. But in regards to it as a stand alone track, this song isn't as powerful, I'll give it an 8.5 out of 10.
05.The Best Of Times: the track starts with what would seem to be the ticking of a clock, which sets the mood for this teary-eyed ballad. It has been since Octavarium that we have been treated to such a majestic masterpiece. This is Mike's second song he's written about a late relative. This one is about his recently passed father, and the sting of his passing is still evident in this song. As most hardcore DT fans would recall, Portnoy's father gave the band the name Dream Theater (as stated on the Score DVD). It may not come as a surprise that the whole band seems very reflective in this entire song. It isn't as chilling and intricate as it's predecessor "A Change Of Seasons" (written for Portnoy's deceased mother), but it definitely is more mood appropriate. They pick up the mood a few minutes into the song and lift us up with some very Images And Words-esque riff-age by Mr. Petrucci. It's good to see the band recalling such finer points in their career throughout the whole song. Portnoy's father would have been pleased to hear this song. I want give away much, but I will say that this song is very powerful, and the lyrics, though incredibly straight-forward, really hit yo if you listen closely. The solo at the end by John Petrucc is a complete masterpiece, it will rival his other solos for the spot of his best solo ever quite possibly. It is riddled with strange time signature changes and so much feeling it gives me the chills every time I hear it. I give this song a strong 10 out of 10, it is good to see the boys taking a turn to their roots with a very Rush-esque song!
06.The Count Of Tuscany: this song is an excellent finale. It starts off with some beautiful acoustic guitar which actually is in the same key as I&W's Another Day intro riff (listen to the song and look at the fret patterns and key, you will see that they are almost identical). Despite this odd yet effecient look into DT's past, this song is riddled with all things DT. Heavy sections with LaBrie screaming out his vocals with utter passion, smooth sections with ambient guitar, and even some acoustic beauty near the end. Also there is a lot of the trademark odd time signatures throughout this entire song that have made DT so famous, only this time it seems to be even more efficiently put together. The song is not very solo packed, but it does have a few emotional solos by JP and some interesting melodies by JR. Myung gives ambient bass backing to JP's ambient solo in the middle and this is one of the few song where you can hear his playing, which truly is a shame, because if you turn the bass up on the stereo you can tell JM is doing some interesting things as usual. The song as a whole is a masterpiece and nothing short of brilliant, it will most likely join DT's classics one day in the future. I give it a 10 out of 10. // 9
Lyrics and Singing: The album as a whole seems to have a theme oriented around the idea that despite all the devastating event in life, there is always a silver lining. Though this is not exactly very original, and is almost completely cliche, it is something that mankind (more so the youth) need to be reminded.
Dream Theater's lyrics aren't usually anything to leave the reader amazed by them technically, but rather they are usually lyrics that give the listener a definite feeling and help us to relate to the song as a whole. This album lives up to that. One of the lyrical highlights if found in "A Nightmare To Remember" during the melodic middle section: "In peaceful sedation I lay half-awake, As all of the panic inside starts to fade, I am hopelessly drifting, bathing in beautiful agony... ". A Rite Of Passage also contains some interesting lyrics that are filled with cryptic meanings but all in all average rhyme schemes. And as for the song considered the worst lyrically by most, "Wither", because it seems to be about writer's block, if the listener takes that aside and listens to the hidden meaning underneath it all, like most DT songs have, they will find themselves pleasantly surprised and eotionally moved.
Vocally, James is back in top form again which is amazing to hear. His vocals on this album are at times gorgeous and passionate, and other times screaming and powerful. He also lives up to his reputation at excellent delivery and proficient knowledge on when to sing operatically, and when not to.
Portnoy's vocals on this album are the same average grunts. Nothing amazing, and at times they are even out of place. But for the majority of the album they fit the section well, but I do think they belong in the background more than the foreground. However his vocal backing for LaBrie in "The Best Of Times" is some of his best back up singing work. It's actually beautiful and his father would be proud. // 9
Impression: This album as a whole when placed on a scape where it is alone and the only DT disc ever, it is amazing and nothing short of brilliant. But once you place this album up to DT's other mammoth albums such as Images And Words, Scenes From A Memory, and Octavarium, the album is dwarfed almost immediately. It really isn't DT's best work, but it is leaps and bounds ahead of Systematic Chaos and Falling Into Infinity. It is placed more along their middle ground with Awake, Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence (which almost should be in the top albums category), and Train Of Thought. The most impressive songs on this album are probably "A Nightmare To Remember", "The Best Of Times", and "The Count Of Tuscany". All great songs which will undoubtedly join DT's classics. "The Shattered Fortress" when placed with the other songs in the suite is an amazing song as I said, but alone, it just isn't nearly as strong. I love the fact that DT is moving more towards their roots again, it leaves me to believe their next album will be another mammoth magnum opus much like I&W, Scenes, and Octavarium. But at the same time there isn't much I dislike about this album. Upon first listen I was bothered by how much heavy metal litters about 50% of the album, but after a few listens it grew on me and I began to understand that it is a very important and incorporable element to the album as a whole. Though I really wish MP would stop his grunts, they are better for a solely metal band, and don't really have much a place in DT, I prefer his deep baritone vocals for LaBries background along with JP's baritone backings. If this album was stolen, I'd definitely buy it again, it is a terrific album as a whole, just not one of DT's best. It however gives us a look at the future for a possibly more mammoth DT album that possibly lies just over the horizon. // 8
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pingu45, on july 07, 2009 0 of 1 people found this review helpful
Sound: Truly, I had very low expectations for this album. My thoughts before listening to the album were that Dream Theater would use that 'perfect' sound which had manifested itself in the latest works "Systematic Chaos" and "Octavarium". A mediocre, flawless mix which wrings the flavour from the music, turning it into a dry work. The album begins with an extremely heavy choral intro, followed by a driving riff into an aggressive piece that shows obvious influence from their Swedish accomplices Opeth, mixed with minor chords & double-kicks galore. Frankly, Portnoy's vocals don't contribute much. The Continuum seems to have that 'that's so 2006' feeling, as we endure its melody. The next piece leaves every great work in Dream Theater's past in a cloud of dust, as it goes off on such an askew tangent towards mainstream, synthetic metal. Especially startling is that disgusting augmented fourth/flat five chord that punctuates the main riff. Had the preceding songs to "Wither" been satisfactory, the third track would have seemed appropriate. As this is not the case, I would liken it to a Christian rock song that would be played at church, or by Neal Morse for that matter. "The Shattered Fortress" truly does shatter the fortress built up by its parent songs, and is surely just a perversion of those four songs. "The Best Of Times" introduction is reminiscent of "Hollow Years", but the middle of the song reminds me of a watered-down, dull reflection of the triumphant tone that "Surrounded" had - and the third part of the song is simply a predictable chord progression that sounds like it should be the theme to a movie, a bit like "Ministry Of Lost Souls". Finally, "The Count Of Tuscany" brings the album to a generally decent closing. It contains many of the elements for which we grew to like Dream Theater; the strange technical passages, the excessive tempo changes; and fortunately Rudess' doesn't ruin the piece with displaced exotic synth tones. But the album's sound juxtaposed with "Images And Words" and "Awake" will show how dull it really is. // 6
Lyrics and Singing: LaBrie truly is a great singer. He doesn't try to be overly agressive, and he provides a commendable performance on this album. Unfortunately the lyrics don't do his voice justice. They are not nearly as inspired as during the "Images And Words" and "Awake" period. "The final stage, a sacred home, unlock the door, and lay the cornerstone" - "I wither, and render myself helpless"? Really, what? "A Nightmare To Remember" sees the return of more Octavarium-esque "peaceful sedation" substance, but I suppose we must give credit for the one good line in the entire album "Hopelessly drifting, bathing in beautiful agony" The lyrics are so pedestrian it really generates the feeling that the boys from New York are straining to find decent, sensible rhymes anymore. The Count Of Tuscany's storytelling style is majorly belittled by what Dream Theater had in "Scenes From A Memory", and a majority of the lyrics' meanings seem pointlessly evasive. Thoroughly uninspiring. // 4
Impression: It's a rather morose feeling to know that Dream Theater is unlikely to conjure another masterpiece like "A Change Of Seasons" or "Images And Words". I get the impression that Dream Theater is trying to sound like they're still experimenting a lot by throwing in a few wacky synthesizer noises and letting Portnoy go all metal on us, but really the album lacks the true experimental aspects that "Six Degrees..." and "Falling Into Infinity" had. "The Shattered Fortress" had a big role to play in this album, and it did not deliver. I would have been exponentially happier with the album if it had actually been the six cover songs that were released, instead of these six works corrupted by modern trends. // 6
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KorbalBroach, on june 23, 2009 0 of 1 people found this review helpful
Sound: I feel Dream Theater fans split into two broad camps (if they split at all): those who like their earlier material, up to, say “Train of Thought”, and those who enjoy the heavier metal style of that album and their later work. “Black Clouds and Silver Linings” is the band’s 10th studio album and takes a fairly balanced step, though with considerable bias towards the heavier repertoire, a style similar to that of the rather disappointing “Systematic Chaos”.
The opening track – “A Nightmare to Remember” – is disappointing: Petrucci opts for a much more crunchy and biting guitar sound than on some earlier work, choosing to forego the traditional Dream Theater subtlety. The deep vocals or “shouting” that could be heard on the “Dark Eternal Night” ("Systematic Chaos") and was frankly embarrassing is back and occupying far too much valuable disc space. Portnoy employs a lot more “slamming” drums and fills, characterized for instance by aggressive double pedaling, nonetheless impressive but forfeiting his usual complexity. Not to overstate the faults: this is still Dream Theater, still leaps and bounds ahead of most other metal acts in terms at least of pure skill. In fact, the odd time signature changes dotting Petrucci’s solos on “Best of Times” are some of his most impressive; Rudess is still brilliant and Myung as always in the background but amazing. Unfortunately, these moments and qualities seem fewer and somehow less impressive than in years gone.
Having said all that, the album does pick up about half way in with the “Shattered Fortress”, resuming the epic song progression carried over the last five albums, starting with “The Glass Prison” in “Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence” and continued in “This Dying Soul” (“Train of Thought”), “The Root of All Evil” (“Octavarium”) and “Repentance” (“Systematic Chaos”). It is also perhaps the strongest track on the new record, reprising several notable riffs in a different tonality and time signatures but also adding a very strong original compliment. The mellower moments and tracks on the album are in the usual Dream Theater vein, with either LaBrie (“Wither”), Rudess (the usual riffs, fills and insane keyboard solos) or Petrucci’s clean/“Spanish” guitar providing a gentle and moving accompaniment (intro to “The Best of Times” or the beautiful end to “The Count of Tuscany”). Having expressed worries over their new sound, I also have to admit that the latter half of the album pays a lot more homage to their older material and old school fans. // 8
Lyrics and Singing: I do not think Dream Theater have ever been particularly great at lyrics. They may be better than usual run-of-the-mill metal themes but certainly not on a par with their technical excellence. There have been some notable exceptions through the years (“Images and Words” for instance) but “Black Clouds” is unfortunately not one of them. The lyrics range from describing a car crash Petrucci was in as a child (“A Nightmare to Remember”) to remembering Portnoy’s father, who recently passed (“The Best of Times”). // 7
Impression: The Dream Theater sound and complexity are still unmistakably and gloriously present. The experimentation with time signatures is at times some of the best they have attempted (see for example the instrumentals in “The Count of Tuscany”) and at least half of the album progresses in an extremely satisfying fashion. However, much like their last record, a lot of this brilliance is watered down by some poor choices and attempts to go in a new direction, particularly at the start of the record. While a band cannot be blamed for trying new things, especially after over twenty years in music, it does change the fact that at least for me the album is not nearly their best and gives a poor first impression. However it also goes on to creep up and pleasantly surprise the listener, culminating in a truly epic experience.
The additional content provided on the “Deluxe Edition” is definitely worth the extra money, even if one is not a diehard fan. The covers of Rainbow, Queen, the Dixie Dregs, Zebra, King Crimson and Iron Maiden are very interesting and strongly reminiscent of the covers on “A Change of Seasons”, showing off LaBrie’s range a lot more than the band’s original material. The instrumental version of the whole album on the third disc is clearly intended for the diehard fan and gives a much clearer appreciation of the complexity involved in the band’s craft while providing a perfect exercise for the guitar player. // 8
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LucasGtrGod, on june 25, 2009 0 of 4 people found this review helpful
Sound: Now I must attest, when I first heard this album I was absolutely floored by it. I thought it was the coolest cat in the street, the heaviest rock in the Andes. But then a strange thing happened: I listened to it again and felt a little underwhelmed. Then I listened it to it again and felt even more underwhelmed. Thus is the problem of Dream Theater's new album: It appears strong and progressive on the outside, but once you look a little deeper it feels fickle and run of the mill.
The album opens on a strong point with the suitably creepy piano introduction for A Nightmare To Remember. This leads into a very heavy section that at first sounds great, but is very derivative of anything modern in metal. This then goes into a Metallica riff (I know Portnoy said that Petrucci wrote the riff before he heard Metallica's "That Was Just Your Life" but I'm not sold) which has all the typical metal and Dream Theater trappings.
And this brings me to the major problem that I have with this album. It is "typical Dream Theater" there is nothing particularly innovative or evolutionary, just more of what we have heard of them before and as such it just comes across as uninspired and lazy. Sure there are million notes per second shred sections and amazing instrumental wizadry (well not with Portnoy or Myung who seem to have taken a rest in practicing on this album), but it just comes across as tepid, unexciting and repetitive. // 6
Lyrics and Singing: This is a hard one for me to judge as two polar opposites are present. On one end of the polarity you have LaBrie whom is singing better than he ever has before. Gone is the whininess that has plagued his vocals for about a decade now, and in its place is a fearsome vowel of confidence and strength.
But then we have the other end of the polarity: the lyrics. Every set of lyrics on this album written by Petrucci (which is all except The Shattered Fortress and The Best of Times) are some of the cheesiest, most ill fitting lyrics that I have ever heard this side of Shadow Gallery.
Sure in some songs they are not so bad that they detract from the music, see A Nightmare To Remember, but in some songs the lyrics suck so insanely hard that it is almost impossible to give the music any credit. An example of this would be a pre chorus section in The Count of Tuscany where I must say that it is impossible to shout the lines, "Let me introduce my brother, A *something* gentlement, historian, Distinguished accent, sucking on his pipe, making me uptight, no accident." I laughed insanely hard when I first heard these lines.
And this brings me to my initial conundrum we have a great vocal performance from Labrie marred by the actual words being spewed from his mouth, so which one do I choose to rate? I think I may go for an average... // 6
Impression: Despite all the bad things I have said about this album it is still Dream Theater, and as such is better than most of the music being released today. Dream Theater have stuck by their guns through their career, but it is beginning to turn to a fault as they are becoming predictable.
And to be honest if you have heard all their other albums you don't really need to hear this one, as it is just more of the same. And not done as well as their earlier material. // 6
Fuck yeah first! I love dream to death, loved system chaos cant wait to pick this up on the weekend!
Fuck i thought i was first... POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 04:51 am / quote|
'Leviathan'
: To be completely honest, I've been listening to this album non-stop since I bought it a couple of days ago, and I think it's fantastic. It may not be on par with the likes of Images & Words, Scenes of SDoIT, but this album really seemed to have a certain charm about it.
I really don't mind the direction the band wants to move in, I really think they make very good use of the whole 'Metal' direction. In my eyes, there are two eras of Dream Theater; The 'Pre-ToT' era and the 'Metal era', and I really like both of them.
Honjestly, I have no complaints about the album, and it was DEFINITELY worth the wait and the $30 price tag... yes, I really did like the whole 'culmination' of the previous AA Suite songs in TSF, but I do wish it had a few more original portions.
Either way, I love the album and I would write a review, but the past 7 I've written have been rejected, so... don't worry about it. POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 07:56 am / quote|
matosh.lee
: having a trouble deciding on which album to buy alxisonfire or DT..... i dont have enough money for both
How is that cheesy thats ****ing awesoem POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 08:08 am / quote|
Virtuoosi
: its an ok album. seems kinda meh after systematic chaos. Its good and all, but to me it just seems like a minor step back.
Not coming out here til tomorrow by the way POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 08:10 am / quote|
CptRevell
: I really have been having problems getting into these latest DT albums. Tend to get tired of listening to teh songs about halfway through the album POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 08:29 am / quote|
fatAbbot27
: I just finished registering on UG deliberately so I could post for this...
Why cant the UG team give this album a 4? I mean its DT but the album is complete Eye-wash!
It is just so so bad... I mean Images and Words was a fantastic original album that rocked on so many levels. Everything since Scenes from a Memory (a very average album in my opinion) is just uninspired crap. All the riffs are the same, no bass, lyrics suck so badly, the drumming so technical that it makes no sense, Petrucci's solos are just so... meh I mean fast yeah but good? Come on!!! DT have been flogging a dead horse for the last 5+ albums... its so frustrating POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 08:46 am / quote|
ivan_2894
: The count of tuscany will enter to DT's hall of fame, believe me... It's the next Change of seasons/learning to live (despite sucky lyrics)...
i liked overall the album, it couldnt be any worse than SC IMO.
The first track is kind of TOO "riffy" IMO,
rite of passage is nothing new,
wither is OK, its a nice yet not commercial ballad,
on The shattered fortress ive got 2 theories, 1) its is great to close the saga, goes back to all of its origins (the ending of this song is brillant!!)...2) they could come up with something new :S to kill us all...
Best of times is ok to me, nice lyrics, nice melodies, nice song overall, but nothing else...
Count of tuscany has got sucky lyrics, yes. However, i personelly believe its a masterpiece musically speaking...
IMO, you should listen this album 12 times before having your own opinion, since it willl change constantly until you really get to know the album.
starfire666
: Ever since Scenes From A Memory DT stopped being exciting and starting to bore the living crap out of me. Although still by far my favourite metal band, I hate to say that the songwriting really downhilled on this one. We still get awesome solos from Mr. Petrucci, but what really IHMO ruins the majority of the songs is Mr. LaBrie and his lame approach to singing. For instance, at the end of The Shattered Fortress and The Count Of Tuscany you can actually hear him contemplating "Am I going to really pull of some high-pitched good quality note like I know I really can or am I just going to continue to produce these crappy Ahs and Ohs in a half-assed mediocre lower-range way whilst thinking to get away with it?" Well, sadly, the answer is obvious.
I think that the new album is fairly decent, but not really great or stunning. But what would you expect from a band whose drummer loves the new Metallica record?! : POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 09:06 am / quote|
Xubnormal
: It looks as though DT fans are no longer satisfied with the band's characteristically brilliant music. After a while, even brilliant gets boring.
They are probably the only metal group I've ever liked. LaBrie's singing is absolutely terrific on this album. It's true that Myung's bass was almost completely overshadowed by the more, ah, powerful shredding by Petrucci and Rudess. Overall, it was quite an interesting album, and equally interesting reviews. POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 09:34 am / quote|
It looks as though DT fans are no longer satisfied with the band's characteristically brilliant music. After a while, even brilliant gets boring.
They are probably the only metal group I've ever liked. LaBrie's singing is absolutely terrific on this album. It's true that Myung's bass was almost completely overshadowed by the more, ah, powerful shredding by Petrucci and Rudess. Overall, it was quite an interesting album, and equally interesting reviews.
for some reason DT fans are the hardest to satisfy
i swear each album its a 50% love 50% hate, no matter what
but all in all, everyone is satisfied when DVD's are released and no COMPLAINTS from live show performances of even the most "hated" DT songs lol POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 09:52 am / quote|
merrill_howard
: i thought the UG review was excellent. finally someone who agrees with me about DT. they're going downhill and its about time someone realized it with me! POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 10:01 am / quote|
hammerhead_500
: i'm quite shocked to see the review that this album recieved
i've been listening to dream theater ever since scenes from a memory released,
i got a little worried when i first heard systematic chaos, it wasnt their greatest stuff, except for in the presence of enemies
i think that the best album they've released in the past 4 years is octavarium, some great stuff in that album
i really like how it functions like a cycle, these walls was an awesome song.
Everything since Scenes from a Memory (a very average album in my opinion) is just uninspired crap. All the riffs are the same, no bass, lyrics suck so badly, the drumming so technical that it makes no sense, Petrucci's solos are just so... meh I mean fast yeah but good?
These REALLY prove your ignorance. Riffs aren't the same, they are continued parts of the same song. And drumming ought to be technical. It's Prog for crying out loud. And scenes was an exceptional album. POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 10:35 am / quote|
multipleofone
: Scenes was an exceptional album.
Just got this album, haven't listened to it yet.
I heard a Rite of Passage a couple of weeks ago and thought it was terrible.
Hopefully this album is way better POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 10:49 am / quote|
almostdvs222
: Im listening to it now, im only on the first song but soo far BAD ASS POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 10:55 am / quote|
MyUserName777
: I'm generally a fan of all DT albums with the exception of maybe SDOIT. What I fail to realize is, the UG Team attacks the album as being too familiar, yet isn't the sound what makes the band.
When I listen to Dream Theater, I want that familiar sound that fans have grown to love considering the band has probably been pushed as far as they can go. Dream Theater should be applauded for not trying to go mainstream because that's the kind of bullshit so many bands succumb to when they 'experiment'.
As far as Shattered Fortress goes, I think it's one of the best songs on the album. Reminiscing on past songs 'steps' is probably the best way they could have ended the AA suite but I also have a bias towards those songs.
Part of the reason I love this album is because so much music nowadays sucks. While the formula for the band might not have changed, it's refreshing to hear a band like Dream Theater in comparison to other music. While the lyrics are cheesy at times, I still think this is a kickass album despite what people say. POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 11:02 am / quote|
Im listening to it now, im only on the first song but soo far BAD ASS
multipleofone wrote:
Scenes was an exceptional album.
Just got this album, haven't listened to it yet.
I heard a Rite of Passage a couple of weeks ago and thought it was terrible.
Hopefully this album is way better
Heminator89 wrote:
fatAbbot27 wrote:
Everything since Scenes from a Memory (a very average album in my opinion) is just uninspired crap. All the riffs are the same, no bass, lyrics suck so badly, the drumming so technical that it makes no sense, Petrucci's solos are just so... meh I mean fast yeah but good?
These REALLY prove your ignorance. Riffs aren't the same, they are continued parts of the same song. And drumming ought to be technical. It's Prog for crying out loud. And scenes was an exceptional album.
Good to see some people who still stick with the band. I thought the album was amazing, even if a little on the metal side of things, and TCoT is a masterpiece of songwriting. POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 11:03 am / quote|
It looks as though DT fans are no longer satisfied with the band's characteristically brilliant music. After a while, even brilliant gets boring.
They are probably the only metal group I've ever liked. LaBrie's singing is absolutely terrific on this album. It's true that Myung's bass was almost completely overshadowed by the more, ah, powerful shredding by Petrucci and Rudess. Overall, it was quite an interesting album, and equally interesting reviews.
for some reason DT fans are the hardest to satisfy
i swear each album its a 50% love 50% hate, no matter what
but all in all, everyone is satisfied when DVD's are released and no COMPLAINTS from live show performances of even the most "hated" DT songs lol
I've noticed this aswell. People always seem to favour either the prog or the metal side of Dream Theater, so unless they make a perfectly balanced album someone will be disappointed. POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 11:50 am / quote|
OctavariumX
: Dream Theater's first attempt to step into the metal genre with ToT was fantastic. Systematic Chaos was a ****ing joke. I thought that The Dark Eternal Night at the time of it's release was one of the worst songs ever written by a Progressive Band. Songs about monsters? Songs about ****ing garbage in my opinion.
On this album it's the same garbage...I am absolutely in love with anything Dream Theater has done before Systematic Chaos. On the new album there are some parts that are OK. But generally it gets ruined by things like a full verse from Portnoy. Dream Theater is dead to me. In my opinion their career ended with Octavarium. ..
By the way...Rite of Passage has surpassed The Dark Eternal Night for worst Dream Theater song...ever. They need to quit while they are ahead. POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 11:52 am / quote|
Bombardana
: complain as you will about every nuance of this recording... it's still way better than systematic chaos POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 12:03 pm / quote|
flashmdg
: ^^ well all mastodon sing about is monsters and there are no comments about crack the skye being lame are there? POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 12:04 pm / quote|
DualReaver
: I didn't really dig this album all too much. The lyrics in The Count of Tuscany make me cringe. POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 12:11 pm / quote|
GustavLW
: I completely agree with the review. While I think that A Nightmare to Remember and A Rite of Passage are good songs, they just aren't... progressive. They're long, technical and all that, but the feel and the vibe from their earlier records is completely gone.
Because I have a weak spot for ballads, Wither is a big winwin to me. The Shattered Fortress is just lame. Hell, I didn't think you could get away with 70% recycled material.
Best of Times is a really nice and great feel-good type of song. The Count of Tuscany is my favorite on the album, and I actually like the nonsensical lyrics. I mean, when Portnoy barks "sucking on his pipe, distinguished accent!!!", I can't help but to lol a bit. Musically, both of these songs are excellent.
Oh, and the iPhone solo thing is true - Rudess played a solo on an iPhone when I saw them live at Sweden Rock Festival. POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 12:15 pm / quote|
TomD03
: I personally loved this album, I've had it *cough* downloaded *cough* for the past month, but on pre-order for the same amount of time. I love every track to be honest. I've been a Dream Theater fan since Train of Thought came out, and I'll stick with them till the end. I personally think this may be one of the strongest albums they have put out in a very long time. POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 12:29 pm / quote|
BenRaah
: I can't see why so many people are complaining, I haven't listened to a single DT album I don't like POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 12:37 pm / quote|
winnipegbassist
: ****ing great, love this album and the iphone thing aha POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 12:45 pm / quote|
omg, what's with the : bla bla bla systematic chaos sucks?? GO BLOW YOURSELF!
. Hey! Buddy! This is a dream theater comments page, where people actually act civilized, so chill. Album was fair, covers were nice. POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 12:51 pm / quote|
ZamoraZ
: imo the album was pretty good, some of the lyrics are weird but instrument wise they delivered, I really would've wanted Myung to stand out a little more but other then that I liked it.
Best tracks for me are The Count of Tuscany and The Best of Times POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 12:59 pm / quote|
supreamoverlord
: i just got the album and omg DT did it again i thought systematic chaos was a beastly album but i was wrong POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 01:15 pm / quote|
ThatsAgood1jay
: I dont think anyone here, or the reviewers for UG realize what Dream Theater is about. Everyone's main argument is "Well, its not an Images and Words". Fuck yes its not, Dream Theater has never been a throw back band that panders the same sound album after album like Iron Maiden or Megadeth. Did anyone expect"Awake" after "Images And Words"?. Dream Theater is a Progressive Metal band, and probably the only band that has stayed true to their music. Every album is different on so many levels, there is never going to be another Images and Words, or another SFAM. because thats not how DT works. They are constantly changing their sound to fit their mood as a band. [/rant]
jmarq
: I didnt think there was anything wrong with SC. Maybe im the only DT fan who has loved everything they've produced haha. i just got the cd, in a Nightmare to remember its cool at the beginning, then it hits a streak of just pure beauty and its unbelievable ..i think its a great cd, like all their others. My Favorite is stil Images and words though. I love Prog. POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 01:24 pm / quote|
Avedas
: Instrumental versions of all the songs really made this album. POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 01:32 pm / quote|
justlaxin73
: I just finished registering on UG deliberately so I could post for this...
Why cant the UG team give this album a 4? I mean its DT but the album is complete Eye-wash!
It is just so so bad... I mean Images and Words was a fantastic original album that rocked on so many levels. Everything since Scenes from a Memory (a very average album in my opinion) is just uninspired crap. All the riffs are the same, no bass, lyrics suck so badly, the drumming so technical that it makes no sense, Petrucci's solos are just so... meh I mean fast yeah but good? Come on!!! DT have been flogging a dead horse for the last 5+ albums... its so frustrating
It looks as though DT fans are no longer satisfied with the band's characteristically brilliant music. After a while, even brilliant gets boring.
They are probably the only metal group I've ever liked. LaBrie's singing is absolutely terrific on this album. It's true that Myung's bass was almost completely overshadowed by the more, ah, powerful shredding by Petrucci and Rudess. Overall, it was quite an interesting album, and equally interesting reviews.
for some reason DT fans are the hardest to satisfy
i swear each album its a 50% love 50% hate, no matter what
but all in all, everyone is satisfied when DVD's are released and no COMPLAINTS from live show performances of even the most "hated" DT songs lol
I've noticed this aswell. People always seem to favour either the prog or the metal side of Dream Theater, so unless they make a perfectly balanced album someone will be disappointed.
No It's impossible to please everyone, you have a group that wants everything to be like it was 20 years ago what the fruit is wrong with people times change music changes, then there's people that like the metal, I don't see how they would be disappointed in this cd, well so far. Wither is slower so they will trash it oh well DT is progressive metal so yeah like I said you can't please everyone.
I have been pleased with everything they have released sure I like Scenes, Images, Awake more than Systematic Chaos but I still thought it was a great album. That being said so far I have loved this new album I'm a fan of prog but I also love me some heavy stuff which was def. delivered to me right off the bat with A Nightmare to Remember. POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 02:19 pm / quote|
Myung'sMusicman
: Oh yeah if they made a all prog the metal fan base will complain and you see how the prog fans are with the new stuff already... Look back to when Octavarium came out no one liked it (me included I thought it was meh but now I love it) POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 02:21 pm / quote|
hyroglyph!c
: I absolutley loved the first track The harmonies and that first riff was so metal. The "screaming" part near the end of the song was fitting but unnecessary I thought Great Album POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 02:30 pm / quote|
MetalGS3SE
: Although I am one of the fans who prefer their earlier work, I love everything Dream Theater puts out, and this is no exception. I purchased the album when it came out and I've been listening to it since. Great album. POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 02:33 pm / quote|
Necromanga
: They totally sucked donkey d"ck at Sweden Rock Festival! POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 02:58 pm / quote|
hyroglyph!c
: I loved that Queen reference(Bohemian Rhapsody) in the solo of Wither. Although I didn't like the song as much as the rest of the album I still like it.
People are complaining too much I think. Because the reality is, even though you hate this album ( for those that do), if you go out and watch a concert, you know they will not disappoint in anyway. I loved how Petrucci/whoever combined the Glass Prison/This Dying Soul Riff in The Shattered Fortress. And for the recycled stuff, if you actually listened to the 12 step suite you'd realize it's meant to be; they use old stuff and add a little more every time. Perfect way to close if I think.
I agree that they weren't as prog as before (Lines in the sand/Take the time/Pull me under/Under a Glass Moon). But that's good, because at least they aren't sounding the same as before.)To me, a lot of their old material sounded the same. ( I still love it though, just like now) As for lyrics, people should relax and realize that not everything has to be as serious/meaningful all of the time. Let them do what the want. The beginning of The Best of Times is way to similar to Hollow Years I thought, esp the guitar. I never got into all of the songs in Systematic Choas, although I loved the ones I DID listen too. For me the songs that will stick are ANTR, The Shattered Fortress and TCoT.
Once again, the good outweigh the bad in this album. I like it alot better than SC POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 03:02 pm / quote|
Fly-By-Night
: I'm a die hard DT fan, The only album i never really got into was Falling Into Infinity. Scenes, SDOIT, ToT, and Images and Words are my favorite albums they have released. This is where this album falls a little short for me, the new album doesn't bring the presence or feeling that the older material did, the only thing that really jumps out at me as pure DT is Jame's vocals. I like the album, but do i love it, no. IMO it's on par with Systematic Chaos as my least favorite DT album. POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 03:12 pm / quote|
Mathdio24
: "Everything is never enough".. Remember these lyrics?
Whatever this band (like any other) will release people will never be happy and it's very sad.
This album is amazing.. as any DT album. These guys are pure genius.. is it so hard to admit? POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 03:40 pm / quote|
PorwegianNussy
: I'm new to Dream Theater, and I listened to this album and really loved it. Than I came on here and found all the negative reviews and I'm just not sure what to think anymore.
Are they not a fresh and different band than a lot of the stuff radio stations play? I think any band with the technical prowess and epic sounding tracks deserves more than the hate it's receiving. I don't know, maybe i'm completely off on this one. POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 03:47 pm / quote|
: 'Like reflections on the page,
The world's what you create.'
I love this album. POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 03:55 pm / quote|
Upon_Belail
: This is a bitchin album anyone who wants the old dream theater should **** off that portion of their career is over. They still make good music and uh i really don't see anyone else making even close to as amazing songs as dream theater does, if there is a band out there let me know but Petrucci and Rudess are some of the best musicians at their instruments and no one has the right to say whether they had a bad album or not these guys are the best in their genre period end story. POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 03:59 pm / quote|
Hammerzeit
: I quite like this. Maybe it's because my taste is more metallic than most DT fans but it's not too bad. Dream Theater are becoming quite formulaic though and the similarities in structure to Systematic Chaos are obvious. Theres the lenghty opening track (ITPOE pt1/Nightmare to Remember), a ballad(Forsaken/Wither), A metal influenced single (Rite of Passage/Constant Motion), An AA song (Repentance/Shatteres Fortress) and a lengthy epic closer (ITPOE pt 2/Count of Tuscany). Lucklily the songs on Black Clouds (with the exception of Rite of Passage, which is weaker than both Constant Motion and the Dark Eternal Night) are all better than the Systematic Chaos Equivalents.
Also Lyrically this is poorer than previous efforts. Nightmare to Remember and Count of Tuscany are awful, far too basic. And like the UG reviewer said, Myung is choked to the point of asphyxiation in the mix, unlike on Images and Words where he was clearer. Thats just how Heavier stuff is mixed though. Talented though they are, their best work was Images and Words and they will never recreate that. POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 04:01 pm / quote|
Connah
: pretty okay album. agree with first review though, some parts did sound predictable. the solos are okay. the shredding is good and tight, its just not interesting sometimes, its jsut shred.
i liked the first 4 songs, but didn't like the last two that much. POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 04:02 pm / quote|
lethaldosage45
: In fact the whole album feels like DT-by-numbers and sadly after 10 albums fans should be starting to hear what note James LaBrie is about to hit, predict when they’ll reprise the main riff with a half time feel, and speculate on just how much longer John Myung can survive under the rubble of the mix before losing consciousness entirely.
This is the first review... and he nailed it. I felt like after being a fan of them for so long, that I could pretty much predict what was going to happen and it made me angry! POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 04:04 pm / quote|
I'm new to Dream Theater, and I listened to this album and really loved it. Than I came on here and found all the negative reviews and I'm just not sure what to think anymore.
Are they not a fresh and different band than a lot of the stuff radio stations play? I think any band with the technical prowess and epic sounding tracks deserves more than the hate it's receiving. I don't know, maybe i'm completely off on this one.
Don't worry about what other people say, if you like it than great. Alot of DT fans are kind of pretentious and think that DT owes them for their stalwart fandom. They forget that most bands (especially prog. bands) write music for themselves and hope other people happen to enjoy it. DT doesnt sit back and read forums so they can plan their next album to perfectly please everyone but themslves. POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 04:17 pm / quote|
Bass of Grunge
: instrument wanking. who cares if you can do a 5 minute solo? POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 04:51 pm / quote|
justin_fraser
: I have listened to the album and first impression is that its kind of weak. Now dont get me wrong, I love DT as much as the next guy, but there is nothing that really sticks out at me.
Octavarium is by far my favorite album because they dont try to force the long songs. And they end it was that epic finale that shares its title with the album name. Thats what an album should be. POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 05:09 pm / quote|
Karlboy
: Though it doesn't even come close to Metropolis, it is still a great album I believe. POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 05:18 pm / quote|
GustavLW
: While long and complex, the first two songs doesn't really feel progressive. I can't put my finger on it, but they just doesn't have the right vibe. Still good music and all.
I have a weak spot for ballads so Wither is a winner in my eyes. The Shattered Fortress have waaay too much recycled material for me to feel like a real songs.
The Best of Times is purely a beautiful, nice and feel-goody song. One of my favorites and this one will probably be given more than just a couple of spins.
And The Count of Tuscany... Is just pure fantastic, musically. I also happen to like the nonsensical lyrics. The instrumental section before the ambient part is bit stale, but otherwise, it's flawless.
Bass of Grunge wrote:
instrument wanking. who cares if you can do a 5 minute solo?
Oh cut your pretentious fxxxing bullshit. I don't care if you don't care, Dream Theater are geniuses in so many ways and means a lot to a lot of people, so your pointless remark over how you doesn't appreciate complex music is completely pointless. POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 05:21 pm / quote|
Reviewer Pete
: Very good review. Don't agree with it word for word, but good points across the board. POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 05:23 pm / quote|
"Everything is never enough".. Remember these lyrics?
Whatever this band (like any other) will release people will never be happy and it's very sad.
This album is amazing.. as any DT album. These guys are pure genius.. is it so hard to admit?
Dream Theater is awesome! Love the new album! POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 05:26 pm / quote|
Czechs Mix
: I meant to "+1" my previous post to Mathdio24. XD POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 05:27 pm / quote|
Specblue
: Ok I've been listening to this album since about 6am this morning. A few things have become clear to me.
I can honestly say that the lyrics have been horrible since John Myung stopped writing (last lyrics on the Falling into Infinity album). Once Portnoy put the rule in place that they had to present a completed set of lyrics, Myung quit writing. Myung wrote in poem form and the rest of the band didn't like having to sort out his ideas. Well guys you probably need to go back to mining Myungs ideas for gold cause thats the only place you're going to find it.
Go back and it's easy to see that Kevin Moore and John Myung were the best lyricists this band had. The band as a whole are amazing musicians, but with Portnoys and Petruccis lyrics I had pure cheese seeping out of my speakers from this album between the two of them.
Next; Mike stop singing! You sound like a half-assed cookie monster. Also, why does James sound so far back in the mix? I know he's a sticking point for many fans where I for one could not think of this band without him.
A rite of passage is the only song I can take, mostly because of the main verse riff and the lyrics. I've always had a interest in lyrics that are social, political or topical(i.e. older Queensryche, older Rush and...older DT).
God it hurt to write that, I've loved this band since I&W and have just about every CD or DVD any of these guys have put out over the years (music and instructional). This was by far their weakest album to date. I’ll see them on tour this year but I hope they don’t bring out allot of whats on this album.
having a trouble deciding on which album to buy alxisonfire or DT..... i dont have enough money for both
Bit of a no-brainer, has to be Dream Theater! I think AOF are good but nowhere near as good as DT are!
no kidding. i listened to the small clips on itunes and made my choice pretty darn quickly. but i cant listen to it until i get home from church practice. i listened to wither though. man i wish my ipod is fixed soon. POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 05:44 pm / quote|
I'm new to Dream Theater, and I listened to this album and really loved it. Than I came on here and found all the negative reviews and I'm just not sure what to think anymore.
Are they not a fresh and different band than a lot of the stuff radio stations play? I think any band with the technical prowess and epic sounding tracks deserves more than the hate it's receiving. I don't know, maybe i'm completely off on this one.
dont worry about what all the whiners on here have said, listen to more of there stuff and then decide wether you like them or not.
i personally thought BC&SL was a good album, ANTR seemed to just be a 16 minute metal song and less proggy (which i thought it would be when i saw the length) but i really liked the slow down in the middle, mp's growls come across as a bit much to me though. My favorite songs would have to be TBOT (even with the ideas they borrowed from hollow) and TCOT. many people will whine and say they should go back to the 90's sound but i think that sound died when Kevin left. Im not a huge fan of their more metal sound lately (i wish myung would start writing again) but this is still an awesome album, better than 95% of the "music" out there thesedays. POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 05:51 pm / quote|
StratStar21
: also i wish they would've snazzed up TSF a bit instead of just reiterating old stuff (even though people say it ties it all together i think they could've done that with new stuff) POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 05:55 pm / quote|
They totally sucked donkey d"ck at Sweden Rock Festival!
I beg to differ. I stood at the front ( I was just a couple of meters away from them... oh maan!)and I can easily say that it was one of the single best concerts I've seen in my life. The 10 minute guitar-keyboard duel had me standing there with just a dumbstruck smile on my face, watching and believing. But of course, it was way too short (one and a half hour), can't wait to see them again in September... with Opeth as opener. Gonna be epic. POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 06:01 pm / quote|
200tommo791
: No matter what DT releases, it's going to be some of the best music around when compared to other music. It's amazing. Things get critical when DT's albums are compared to other DT albums. There is nothing wrong with new direction, if there was, people would have stopped listening from "6 Degrees of Inner Turbulance" onwards.
Personally Black Clouds is not a fave, and the reviewer is completely right, and I miss not having Myung in the mix hardly at all, and yes they need to stop pleasing the fanboys because in the end the fanboys will always love DT.
But nonetheless, the album is great, especially moments like "The Best of Times".
At least he's not so far back in the mix live. When I saw DT at Prog Nation 08 he was excellent. But on the records... especially Black Clouds, even using IEMs with boosted bass makes it difficult to hear him without 100% concentrating on it.
I really wish he would write again, too. DT lyrics have really gone in the hole IMO. The themes are good, but the execution and delivery are subpar and cheese-filled.
One thing I do like more about BC&SL is Petrucci's tone. It's been improved quite a bit, although his solos are pretty far back in the mix. The drums and orchestrated parts are really on the forefront. POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 06:24 pm / quote|
enselmis
: Not a single DT album has actually been BAD, they're all just different. This one is no different, I liked it, but I guess it's not for everyone. POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 06:34 pm / quote|
Lohnanmilitia
: Great album, nothing groundbreaking, but sometimes its nice to have a band do just a collective great album. Dream theater nailed that with systematic Chaos, something the fell a little short on with Octavarium, but The new album I listened to when working the other day and couldnt concentrate cause if its pure awesomeness!! Go Dream theater!! POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 07:01 pm / quote|
VortexOfSouls
: I have to agree with Avedas, Myung is put pretty far back in the mix on albums. It's unfortunate because Myung is a very talented bassist and his skills should be showcased. In any case, I thought this album was pretty good. POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 07:11 pm / quote|
having a trouble deciding on which album to buy alxisonfire or DT..... i dont have enough money for both
Haha, great taste. I think I love you POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 08:13 pm / quote|
kywil
: I'd have to agree that The Shattered Fortress was a bit of a disappointment. But other than that I really like this album. The other tracks are really good and I couldn't ask for anything more from Dream Theater. Yes, they have obviously become more metal after ToT but I don't necessarily think that's a bad thing. Overall I would give this album an 8/10 just for The Shattered Fortress being a huge upset.
Dream Theater is still my favorite band of all time and I can't wait to see them live during their North American tour! Rock on! POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 08:48 pm / quote|
AlAxe
: I've only listened to it once so far but it seems pretty good. Definitely better than SC. It's no Images and Words or Scenes but it's quite solid. I feel like I need about a week or so to really get into each DT album. POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 09:01 pm / quote|
sinForge xJp
: I'm gunna have to ask the reviewer... What exactly were you expecting? It's Dream Theater! They've had the same line up for about a decade now, and regardless of what new topics or stories they put to music, this is how they sound!
The only way they could possibly out-do themselves at this point would be to make an album with nothing but STUPEFYINGLY COMPLEX EPICS. If you're familiar with Sonata Arctica, just imagine if DT were to pull a musical Unia with a vocal Ecliptica.. That would be the only way they could possibly "catch us off-guard" anymore.
I loved this album. I'd say as a DT outing, 9/10.. but like I said... if they wanted REALLY impress us, the compositions would literally boil our blood, and kill. POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 09:11 pm / quote|
Lou108
: "douchebaggery"
i couldn't take the UG review serriously at all, that word makes me laugh. POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 09:21 pm / quote|
redwolf206
: "Whilst still fairly dark and heavy, the Portnoy-speared ‘METUL!’ douchebaggery found on a lot of ‘Systematic Chaos’ has cooled down and left more room for traditional proggy sounds"
Stopped reading after this... Can't take the review seriously after a comment like that. Shame on you, UG Team, for writing like a 13 year old anti-metal kid. Dream Theater is a Prog-"METUL" band, so the metal edge on systematic chaos was not unexpected or really bad IMO.
Also, the album is ok, maybe it'll grow on me more if I keep listening. POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 09:40 pm / quote|
slayer98763
: It seems that this album is catching a lot of flak that it doesn't deserve. to tell the truth (Which is souly my opinion), i think that this is one of DT's best albums to date. it seems that they took a huge leap of maturity while taking some small immature steps back at the same time (some lyrics were corny, Mike Portnoys vocal lead bits are a little bit of an ear sore, etc.).
The biggest joy for me in this album would have to be Jordan Rudess' step towards being more independent as a Keyboardist while more expressing his ability to be more of a lead instrument rather then a backing instrument. some of my favorite Jordan Rudess moments in this album would have to be in The Count of Tuscany (which I think beats Octavarium by the way) track at 2:36 with his lead part that, in all honesty, almost made me cry because of how musically beautiful it was.
it also seems that John Pertrucci had some brilliant moments where you could see a the riffing genius that is found in the Octavarium and Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence albums. this riffing and Composing brilliance is especially found in The Shattered Fortress and A Nightmare To Remember tracks.
However, the corny and kinda lame bits of the album don't prevent one from enjoying this album to the fullest extent, as long as you accept the bands different creative thought process that may differ from ours (if that made any sense at all)
i am extremely glad to see that Dream theater, yet again, delivered another brilliant album. POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 09:46 pm / quote|
silly hats
: I think its a great album. My only concern is Mike taking a slightly larger role 'singing'. Its not bad when MP and JP are both doing harmony vocals (ITPoE), I just think it should stay away.
Besides, even if DT continue with their awake style prog, you people will say its all been done before.
Just open your ears and accept something different from a progressive metal band. POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 10:36 pm / quote|
GuidoPP
: looooove black clouds and silver linings.. i dont know what's up with UG giving such a hateful review, while it deserved a much more appreciating and understanding analysis. i think this is one of the best music that dream theater have ever created in their lives. and i absolutely adore the way they put together the songs from AA into that masterpiece that is Shattered Fortress! And can't forget about the double bass! i can't believe UG didnt even mention it!.. bad bad bad POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 10:40 pm / quote|
tonybaroneee
: I agree, GuidoPP. I think UG didn't listen to this album enough times to really appreciate what DT was really playing. I do not believe this album is "routine" for them, I think it's some incredible music that reaches up with 6 degrees and Change of Seasons. I find the musicianship on this album above and beyond their last few albums (although Octavarium was very quality). My two cents. POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 10:46 pm / quote|
EndOfNothing656
: Holy shit, UG are a bunch of idiots on this one. This is their best CD since SDOIT imo, this album is way better than what theyve been putting out. POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 11:07 pm / quote|
Myung'sMusicman
: The only problem I have is the two verses before the chorus in The Count of Tuscany Meet my brother a bearded man haha. Besides that AMAZING album now that I listened all the way through. The Shattered Fortress amazing way to end the saga like Octavarium it ended where it began POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 11:14 pm / quote|
Fly-By-Night
: alright I'm going to update my last post I made. I have been listening to this album all day and can say the more i listened to it the better it got. You start to notice all the little things that make the tracks even better. It is still not my favorite DT album by a long shot but it is a solid album for the most part (except Rite of Passage, i just cant really get into it). Cant wait for to see them at Prog Nation POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 11:57 pm / quote|
reiko2004
: Dream Theater have been my favorite band for 15 years. Unfortunately the UG review was spot-on. I enjoyed the album alot (being such a fan) however when you compare their post-ToT work to pre-ToT, it's a whole different vibe entirely. I wish that they would cut back on the metal and come out with original proggy ideas like back in the old days. LaBrie sounded awesome on this album though! POSTED: 06/24/2009 - 12:01 am / quote|
meadowskid
: My only problems with the album were the lyrics in The Count of Tuscany, and that portnoy's full verse in A Nightmare to Remember (would have been fine if the lyrics were a little bit more intense/angry)
Also i thought the cover of stargazer was really weak, The Rainbow version is clearly superior. POSTED: 06/24/2009 - 12:12 am / quote|
greatwhiteone
: the thing that got me into DT, and what makes me still love them, was their ability to structure a song as a whole. i think the best part of a progressive band is their ability to create beautiful soundscapes. recently they have been failing in both these areas. they dont seem to be considering (as much as they used to) how x will improve y. its more of, "this is a cool riff, lets put it after this part." evident on songs DEN and POW.
the beautiful soundscapes such as Misunderstood, TGP, TGD and LTL etc, have gone out the window, in favour of "double kick, epic!!'
i love them, but iv got no interest at all in their new stuff. POSTED: 06/24/2009 - 12:13 am / quote|
lordflaron
: for some reason, it seems many people are falsely construing Dream Theater as progressive. IDK about u guys, but dream theater is really not progressive in any sense of the word. Progressive music must push the envelope of what music is in general or in this case metal music, it must meld multiple genres together, it must create a soundscape that is unorthodox to the mind and yet familiar as per the regular conventions and prototypes of what music is. When a drummer can play incredibly technically and the the lead guitarist can play the minor scale at 1,000,000 bpm, that by no means constitutes progressive music. There are so many other metal bands that actually push the envelope beyond dream theater has ever attempted. theyre almost mainstream... POSTED: 06/24/2009 - 12:20 am / quote|
jpk6044
: Great musicians. But the singer blows. They should have fired him years ago. POSTED: 06/24/2009 - 12:20 am / quote|
but dream theater is really not progressive in any sense of the word. Progressive music must push the envelope of what music is in general or in this case metal music, it must meld multiple genres together, it must create a soundscape that is unorthodox to the mind and yet familiar as per the regular conventions and prototypes of what music is
= EDGY/CREATIVE.
what you are defining sir, is Skindred. Is Skindred Prog? Nope. They're very creative and original, and pushed the envelope, combining genres... but they are not prog. here you go...
"Progressive metal (sometimes shortened to prog metal) is a fusion genre; a mixture of progressive rock and heavy metal. Progressive metal blends the powerful, guitar-driven sound of metal with the complex compositional structures, odd time signatures, and intricate instrumental playing of progressive rock. Some progressive metal bands are also influenced by jazz fusion and classical music. Like progressive rock songs, progressive metal songs are usually much longer than standard metal songs, and they are often thematically linked in concept albums. As a result, progressive metal is rarely heard on mainstream radio and video programs."
Dream Theater. POSTED: 06/24/2009 - 12:36 am / quote|
sinForge xJp
: and here... lets get more technical...
"Progressive rock bands pushed "rock's technical and compositional boundaries" by going beyond the standard rock or popular verse-chorus-based song structures. Additionally, the arrangements often incorporated elements drawn from classical, jazz, and world music. Instrumentals were common, while songs with lyrics were sometimes conceptual, abstract, or based in fantasy. Progressive rock bands sometimes used "concept albums that made unified statements, usually telling an epic story or tackling a grand overarching theme."
ryff.legend
: The UG review came off as flat-out negative towards anything Mike Portnoy does...
"the Portnoy-speared ‘METUL!’ douchebaggery found on a lot of ‘Systematic Chaos’ has cooled down and left more room for traditional proggy sounds"
"Mike Portnoy’s vocal contributions are getting more frequent, and while they aren’t half as irritating as they have been in the past, there are times where you have to wonder why they were included."
I haven't heard it yet, but I'm sure it's got what happens to be the only thing I look for in a Dream Theater album, the magnificent accuracy and velocity of its bandmates on their respective instruments.. POSTED: 06/24/2009 - 01:41 am / quote|
Oblivoath666
: i cannot wait to listen to this...i am just getting into Dream Theater and i really like them and this album sounds awesome. POSTED: 06/24/2009 - 02:23 am / quote|
BCarterM
: To be honest, i think these albums is just simply brilliant, from start to end.
it covers pretty much all different styles, whilst still in a dream theater sound, in just 6 songs. amazing.
just sit back and listen to the music, don't try to analysis it straight away.
its going to take many listen before you can finally make a some what steady decision on the album.
great job again to the dream. POSTED: 06/24/2009 - 02:31 am / quote|
BCarterM
: *i think this album* not 'these albums' :P POSTED: 06/24/2009 - 02:33 am / quote|
Itsvoogle
: Ive Heard this Album and to be honest i think its an amazing album...sure maybe i whoudve done some things a bit differnt but cmon who else writes stuf like this??? its a great welcome to there list of awseom albums...take it as it is...dont look for the wrong in it,,,just enjoy it.... POSTED: 06/24/2009 - 03:00 am / quote|
Jondy
: this is... this is the best DT album in a long long time. I liked systematic chaos. but this... this isn't just good musicianship. this is art. great beautiful magnificent art! labrie's voice hasn't sounded this good since Scenes from a Memory.
Petrucci isn't just shredding, he's digging deep into the slower dramatic bluesy stuff, like lost without you from his solo album.
rudess... jesus just listen to count of tuscany. dear god.
i can't even express just how amazing this album is. it's beautiful. not just fantasic musicianship, that's become a given with this band.
the shattered fortress is an epic ending to anyone who has been keeping up with that series.
6 songs, every last one of them are fantastic. POSTED: 06/24/2009 - 03:34 am / quote|
Ive Heard this Album and to be honest i think its an amazing album...sure maybe i whoudve done some things a bit differnt but cmon who else writes stuf like this??? its a great welcome to there list of awseom albums...take it as it is...dont look for the wrong in it,,,just enjoy it....
the most absolutely truest words, when people complain i can guarantee its just tiny nit picking. so well said just enjoy the cd have some fun and be grateful for MUSIC POSTED: 06/24/2009 - 03:35 am / quote|
"Whilst still fairly dark and heavy, the Portnoy-speared ‘METUL!’ douchebaggery found on a lot of ‘Systematic Chaos’ has cooled down and left more room for traditional proggy sounds"
Stopped reading after this... Can't take the review seriously after a comment like that. Shame on you, UG Team, for writing like a 13 year old anti-metal kid. Dream Theater is a Prog-"METUL" band, so the metal edge on systematic chaos was not unexpected or really bad IMO.
They are a progressive metal band, and it's not the fact that they're playing metal; it's that a lot of the metal they've been playing has been bland and very aware of its own 'metalness'. That's why I said 'METUL!' like a 13 year old pro-metal kid rather than 'metal' like a big boy. They've said they're 'ready to compete with the Slipknots and the Triviums' of the world. That's not a good sign.
Also worth noting 80% of the stuff I review is metal
ThatsAgood1jay wrote:
They are constantly changing their sound to fit their mood as a band. [/rant]
No, they're not. That's the whole point of the review! POSTED: 06/24/2009 - 04:12 am / quote|
instrument wanking. who cares if you can do a 5 minute solo?
Oh cut your pretentious fxxxing bullshit. I don't care if you don't care, Dream Theater are geniuses in so many ways and means a lot to a lot of people, so your pointless remark over how you doesn't appreciate complex music is completely pointless.
Lol, DT are very, very self-indulgent sometimes, darling. He's not talking about how complex the music is, he's talking about how utterly pointless it is to have 5 minutes of Petrucci and Rudess bouncing off each other, trying to fit as many notes in as possible. POSTED: 06/24/2009 - 04:20 am / quote|
instrument wanking. who cares if you can do a 5 minute solo?
Oh cut your pretentious fxxxing bullshit. I don't care if you don't care, Dream Theater are geniuses in so many ways and means a lot to a lot of people, so your pointless remark over how you doesn't appreciate complex music is completely pointless.
Lol, DT are very, very self-indulgent sometimes, darling. He's not talking about how complex the music is, he's talking about how utterly pointless it is to have 5 minutes of Petrucci and Rudess bouncing off each other, trying to fit as many notes in as possible.
I'm quite sure that our dear friend Bass of Grunge have never heard a single Dream Theater song, and just know that they're a technically proficient band that play complex music. Also, he clearly says in his profile that he "doesn't care for technical music", and I've met my share of grungers in my days who totally hate progressive and virtuoso music just for being complex.
While long solo sections can be utterly pointless on record (Beyond This Life comes to mind), it's awesome for a live situation. Still, my main point was that his comment was pretentious and haven't got anything to do here, as it won't change any progheads minds that a grunger despised prog. We already knew that. POSTED: 06/24/2009 - 04:54 am / quote|
instrument wanking. who cares if you can do a 5 minute solo?
Oh cut your pretentious fxxxing bullshit. I don't care if you don't care, Dream Theater are geniuses in so many ways and means a lot to a lot of people, so your pointless remark over how you doesn't appreciate complex music is completely pointless.
Lol, DT are very, very self-indulgent sometimes, darling. He's not talking about how complex the music is, he's talking about how utterly pointless it is to have 5 minutes of Petrucci and Rudess bouncing off each other, trying to fit as many notes in as possible.
I'm quite sure that our dear friend Bass of Grunge have never heard a single Dream Theater song, and just know that they're a technically proficient band that play complex music. Also, he clearly says in his profile that he "doesn't care for technical music", and I've met my share of grungers in my days who totally hate progressive and virtuoso music just for being complex.
While long solo sections can be utterly pointless on record (Beyond This Life comes to mind), it's awesome for a live situation. Still, my main point was that his comment was pretentious and haven't got anything to do here, as it won't change any progheads minds that a grunger despised prog. We already knew that.
i love dream theater. seriously, one of my favourite bands of all time. POSTED: 06/24/2009 - 04:59 am / quote|
instrument wanking. who cares if you can do a 5 minute solo?
Oh cut your pretentious fxxxing bullshit. I don't care if you don't care, Dream Theater are geniuses in so many ways and means a lot to a lot of people, so your pointless remark over how you doesn't appreciate complex music is completely pointless.
Lol, DT are very, very self-indulgent sometimes, darling. He's not talking about how complex the music is, he's talking about how utterly pointless it is to have 5 minutes of Petrucci and Rudess bouncing off each other, trying to fit as many notes in as possible.
I'm quite sure that our dear friend Bass of Grunge have never heard a single Dream Theater song, and just know that they're a technically proficient band that play complex music. Also, he clearly says in his profile that he "doesn't care for technical music", and I've met my share of grungers in my days who totally hate progressive and virtuoso music just for being complex.
While long solo sections can be utterly pointless on record (Beyond This Life comes to mind), it's awesome for a live situation. Still, my main point was that his comment was pretentious and haven't got anything to do here, as it won't change any progheads minds that a grunger despised prog. We already knew that.
i love dream theater. seriously, one of my favourite bands of all time.
Great, an open minded individual. Don't think that I generalize and say that all fans of grunge (or similar genres) hatez allz progz, but it's not really common that the two genres share fans, you know. They're pretty much the polar opposites of each others. POSTED: 06/24/2009 - 05:09 am / quote|
ianderson89
: fantastic album. beautiful melodies and technical brilliance. i love it. POSTED: 06/24/2009 - 05:48 am / quote|
Martindecorum
: O lord that solo at 10 min of best of times, is truely 2 best friends speaking through music POSTED: 06/24/2009 - 07:18 am / quote|
sucubus
: I'd give this album 8/10, pretty solid but it seems James labrie is holding back on the high pitched vocal stylings which we love so much and make the songs more interesting,
plus it seems tht Myung has little to no imput in songs anymore, as his bass is hardly regonisable some songs,and i dont thing theres one epic bass solo in the entire album, plz Myung write more music, ur songs were always the best- learning to live, lifting shadows off a dream, trial of tears and fatal tradegy all classics POSTED: 06/24/2009 - 07:32 am / quote|
sucubus
: additionally i feel portnoy has taken over too much and is blocking every1 else's creative output ie labrie, rudess and myung. POSTED: 06/24/2009 - 07:45 am / quote|
I'd give this album 8/10, pretty solid but it seems James labrie is holding back on the high pitched vocal stylings which we love so much and make the songs more interesting,
plus it seems tht Myung has little to no imput in songs anymore, as his bass is hardly regonisable some songs,and i dont thing theres one epic bass solo in the entire album, plz Myung write more music, ur songs were always the best- learning to live, lifting shadows off a dream, trial of tears and fatal tradegy all classics
I REALLY love Myung's lyrics, they're so imaginative, so... mystical and very thought provoking. I wish his bass was more audible, as he's amazing, and I just wish he'd write more lyrics, I really did like them.
"Under the sun, there is nothing to hide,
Under the moon, a stranger waits inside...
People disappear...
The music fades away.
Splashing through the rain,
I'll dream with them one day."
I mean, HOW AWESOME is that? Myung's lyrics just have something about them that I really admire. Too bad that even in the past, his input has been minimal. POSTED: 06/24/2009 - 08:39 am / quote|
Ok I've been listening to this album since about 6am this morning. A few things have become clear to me.
I can honestly say that the lyrics have been horrible since John Myung stopped writing (last lyrics on the Falling into Infinity album). Once Portnoy put the rule in place that they had to present a completed set of lyrics, Myung quit writing. Myung wrote in poem form and the rest of the band didn't like having to sort out his ideas. Well guys you probably need to go back to mining Myungs ideas for gold cause thats the only place you're going to find it.
Go back and it's easy to see that Kevin Moore and John Myung were the best lyricists this band had. The band as a whole are amazing musicians, but with Portnoys and Petruccis lyrics I had pure cheese seeping out of my speakers from this album between the two of them.
Next; Mike stop singing! You sound like a half-assed cookie monster. Also, why does James sound so far back in the mix? I know he's a sticking point for many fans where I for one could not think of this band without him.
A rite of passage is the only song I can take, mostly because of the main verse riff and the lyrics. I've always had a interest in lyrics that are social, political or topical(i.e. older Queensryche, older Rush and...older DT).
God it hurt to write that, I've loved this band since I&W and have just about every CD or DVD any of these guys have put out over the years (music and instructional). This was by far their weakest album to date. I’ll see them on tour this year but I hope they don’t bring out allot of whats on this album.
Actually, the last song Myung wrote was Fatal Tragedy from SFAM.
I, for one, really enjoyed this album, and it really doesn't deserve all the hate it's getting. POSTED: 06/24/2009 - 09:23 am / quote|
I'm generally a fan of all DT albums with the exception of maybe SDOIT.
you kidding? disc 2 of SDOIT was a masterpiece! POSTED: 06/24/2009 - 12:24 pm / quote|
Colton165
: additionally, ill give the album a 7.5 or an 8.
so i somewhat agree with the UG review. POSTED: 06/24/2009 - 12:27 pm / quote|
Jrsnyder881
: I liked the album overall especially Wither, I wasn't expecting to hear such a mellow song from DT this time around. Also the arpeggios in A Nightmare to Remember are kicking my ass, The Count of Tuscany was rather overated in my opinion not that it was a bad song its just not as great as what it's being hailed as in my opinion. Still this album blows away anything else out there at the moment. POSTED: 06/24/2009 - 12:50 pm / quote|
JHH
: The record was delivered today (24.6.) to the record stores in Finland, oh the waiting...
I think the album was pretty good, it doesn't stand out (at least not yet) from the other DT records, it's just one of them.
A Nightmare to Remember saved my day, it's a brilliant masterpiece and a great way to open the record. A Rite of Passage and Wither, well, meh... singles... The Shattered Fortress was really fun to listen to, especially the first time, 'cause the references were great and I have nothing against DT doing so. Maybe it was a little too much ripped off, but... As long as it's good and the artist rips off himself and does it deliberately (so as long as it's not Coldplay). The Best of Times was ok, not great. I can't see what was all the hyping about The Count of Tuscany, 'cause it wasn't half as good as I would've thought it to be. Still it was good compared to most of the shit I've listened to...
Overall, good job, deserves a solid 9. POSTED: 06/24/2009 - 05:58 pm / quote|
Golem29
: Decent reviews, the overall jist of Duncan's review was right on, but I disagree on some points.
The public wants Reviewer Pete POSTED: 06/24/2009 - 06:01 pm / quote|
"Everything is never enough".. Remember these lyrics?
Whatever this band (like any other) will release people will never be happy and it's very sad.
This album is amazing.. as any DT album. These guys are pure genius.. is it so hard to admit?
My thoughts exactly. POSTED: 06/24/2009 - 06:44 pm / quote|
musiclover2186
: i hate it when people say "its not images and words" No its not, and there will never be another SDoIT there will never be another scenes from a memory. If they rewrote these albums everytime everyone would say the same thing. They dont write anything new. I personally think all their albums are great, they are the creative force, and no artist is bound by any laws or rules saying they have to please the fans. They write what they think is good music, and its up to us to like it or not. I think people need to stop b****ing about it and accept the new material as it is.. good music. POSTED: 06/24/2009 - 06:48 pm / quote|
sinForge xJp :
I'm gunna have to ask the reviewer... What exactly were you expecting? It's Dream Theater! They've had the same line up for about a decade now, and regardless of what new topics or stories they put to music, this is how they sound!
The only way they could possibly out-do themselves at this point would be to make an album with nothing but STUPEFYINGLY COMPLEX EPICS. If you're familiar with Sonata Arctica, just imagine if DT were to pull a musical Unia with a vocal Ecliptica.. That would be the only way they could possibly "catch us off-guard" anymore.
I loved this album. I'd say as a DT outing, 9/10.. but like I said... if they wanted REALLY impress us, the compositions would literally boil our blood, and kill.
I personally think if DT were to write a comedy, then they'd be shaking things up quite a bit. POSTED: 06/24/2009 - 07:55 pm / quote|
Otnip
: I think this is a great album, and a pretty triumphant one for their tenth outing as a band. It's even growing still, which is scary... POSTED: 06/24/2009 - 11:05 pm / quote|
"Everything is never enough".. Remember these lyrics?
Whatever this band (like any other) will release people will never be happy and it's very sad.
This album is amazing.. as any DT album. These guys are pure genius.. is it so hard to admit?
My thoughts exactly.
Here here! so true. And i have to say, i LOVED this album. One of my favorites. The writing was great, the music had big furry man balls and it just shows how versatile and amazing they are. and the shattered fortress made me cry. the oddysey is over. the greatness is complete. long live dream theater POSTED: 06/24/2009 - 11:12 pm / quote|
JawrshyXD
: I have to say I am definitely pleased with this album.
All though I do agree with the album cycle they seem to have. I&W's GREAT Awake and FII, decent. Scenes =AMAZING, Six Degrees and TOT, well, decent. Octavarium BRILLIANT!, Systematic Chaos and now BC&SL are decent.
With this cycle in mind, lets just hope that album number 11 is going to be another one of their magnum opuses =].
I will say my favorite song on the album is The Count Of Tuscany, but I also have to say the lyrics on that song are actually interesting, I like the whole story-telling element this album seems to have taken on.
But then again the vast majority of DT's lyrics are just stories.
All in all, great band, great album, just by DT standards, this is a mediocre album. But the next one will be grand I know it. POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 12:58 am / quote|
John1138
: I just picked up the disc and must say "Job Well Done!"
This is what it is, another great chapter in the ongoing Dream Theater saga. It certainly does not qualify as my favorite DT disc. In many respects I do not have one. Each album now seems to stand on it's own, as a snapshot into the band and it's individual members.
I have been a fan since 1989. I was standing in a record store when my friend (the store manager) threw on a disc called "When Dream and Day Unite." I was hooked.
I refer to Dream Theater as "The Biggest and Greatest UNKNOWN band in the world!" Because no matter who I speak with outside of the musicians 'community,' nobody has ever heard of them. They MIGHT recognize "Pull Me Under." And that is just fine. All is as it should be.
Great album and I hope to catch them on tour. POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 02:34 am / quote|
Rattlehead EOR
: wtf? i think this is one of Dream Theaters best in quite a while cause well i prefer heavy Dream Theater over not-so-heavy Dream Theater. And for you people who say the album sucked... unless you can write or play music like them dont say anything. This is seriously one of their best. Probably my 2nd fav behind Train of Thought. POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 03:47 am / quote|
additionally i feel portnoy has taken over too much and is blocking every1 else's creative output ie labrie, rudess and myung.
well, going by how long the songs were... it was really a "Portrucci" album. I mean an album can only be so long, and they've always been the principal song writers... idk. I agree tho, that Myung has had some of the best lyrics in their works... and I will say that they should put LaBrie's name in some credit form if he had ANY input whatsoever.. I'm sure he had some say in his vocal lines... anyway yeah. POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 04:23 am / quote|
wasp2020
: Great album. Standout parts for me were the "Peaceful Sedation" section in ANTR, Wither on the whole, all the nuggets in Shattered Fortress, John's amazing solo in Best of Times, and everything in Count of Tuscany. In that song especially, Rudess, Petrucci, and Labrie are the best they've been in years.
Lyrics are a bit wonky, but it stll kicks Systematic Chaos' ass on all fronts, and reminds me of how great SDOIT was. POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 06:58 am / quote|
SpeedCacophony
: I honestly think ints futile to judge or rate each Dream Theater album in correlation to another. The brilliance of these composers is not just in their technical ability nor the progression within their song structures, but the progression between albums. I think the defining characteristic of many DT fans is their inability to comprehend or allow for such departures from previous albums, they can tolerate the progressive nature of songs by nothing else.
For me the most enthralling aspect of DT is that no one release sounds the same as another, an to truly appreciate the individual genious of each album requires continued attention, so to categorically state that the album is sup-bar at its inception does not do it justice.
Whilst there are certain facets of the album I personally do not agree with, such as the quantity of songs, this perspective is ultimately subjective, and you shouldn't take mine nor any others review of this album as absolute irrefutable fact. All I advise is you give yourself time account for this album, not to immediately deride it. POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 07:14 am / quote|
AdriAn934
: Well, I bought the album right after school on tuesday, and have been listening just to it since, nonstop! I know for the die hard DT fans they like I&W and Awake, but for me, it seems since they picked up Rudess is when they hit the money. I love Change of Seasons but Awake I&W and FII I only like about half the album. I can honestly say I know and enjoy Scenes on through Black Clouds
A Nightmare to Remember: Awesome opener, nothing to crazy on guitar but very Dark and Raunchy
A Rite of Passage: Sort of like Constant Motion, reminds me of a single to bring in new listeners but still maintaining their orig style
Wither: Kind of wish I didn't find out what it was about, but their voices harmonize so well together and is a very good ballad
Shattered Fortress: I like how they brought back all the old riffs from the saga, kind of choppy at first but its growing on me as I listen to it more
Best of Times: Very Rush-esque in my eyes. I really don't listen to rush but reading the review did make it click in my head that it did have that prog jumpy light feel to it.
Count of Tuscany: My personal favorite, another epic to add to ITPoE, Octavarium, 6 degrees, and A change of Seasons. Masterpiece! POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 06:17 pm / quote|
Soloh
: simply love the new album... I don't fckng care about the old school DT's fans... the music changes and I like when dream gets heavier. You all piece of S**t criticize Dream theater and I can say that no one of you retards can even make a song. POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 09:48 pm / quote|
Rattlehead EOR
: i agree with soloh completely! I mean all you Dream Theater fans stuck in the past with images and word... Personally i would rather listen to anything Scenes from a Memory and above over Images and Word. Mostly cause i really dont like Kevin Moore at alllll i prefer Jordan. and i really enjoy Dream Theaters more heavy side more than their progressive side POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 10:41 pm / quote|
MADIronMaiden
: It seems that some DT fans are never satisfied. It seems that each time that DT release a new album, they expect a new Images And Words, but they don't get it, so they think it sucks... Just because the album isn't as good as Images And Words it sucks! Pretty stupid imo.
Anyway, I think this album is awesome! In fact, it's so awesome that when I listened to A Rite Of Passage I thought it was awesome, but now that I've listened to all of the album, I think it's very average. It's a great song, but it's very average compared to A Nightmare To Remember, The Shattered Fortress and of course, The Count Of Tuscany. These songs are just incredible! They're epic, they're full of great riffs, great melodies and catchy bits! I'm not completely into The Best Of Times right now, but it gets better each time that I listen to it and I know that I'll love it soon. Finally, Wither is a good song, but it's very average compared to the rest... BUT almost everything is average compared to the rest!
I give 9/10. POSTED: 06/26/2009 - 12:20 am / quote|
MADIronMaiden
: "It is "typical Dream Theater" there is nothing particularly innovative or evolutionary"
ironwolg
: i personally loved Systematic Chaos, i played constant motion for a scholarship audition and got it so thank you Dream Theater for that. anyway, i've only heard A Rite of Passage(badass song and badass solo!) A Nightmare to Remember(awesome song, solo not so much but it'll grow on me) and most of Wither(excellent song! loved it) and i'm pretty happy with all of that. i don't understand why everyone complains about this album and systematic chaos. it really reminds me of MetallicA fans. Images and Words = Master of Puppets. the old stuff is great, but it's time to move on guys. They're not the same musicians they were back then, their styles change so the music's gonna change. I'm sure this album is going to be my favorite for a while after i hear the rest of it, after i've heard it, i'll post a review of my own. maybe a more open minded review will help
PS reviews are meant to help people decide whether or not to buy the album, not so you can whine and b*tch about how much it doesn't sound like Images and Words or to complain about how you didn't like Systematic Chaos, this is a review on Black Clouds and Silver Linings so review THAT POSTED: 06/26/2009 - 01:25 am / quote|
tachyon
: i think it's funny that people are complaining about how crap this album is for dream theater, and giving it bad scores, when it is possibly the best album to be released this year. POSTED: 06/26/2009 - 01:43 am / quote|
GiantRaven
: So far my opinion is that it is an average album, nothing else. Not good, not bad...
Why would I listen to average Dream Theater when I can listen to amazing Dream Theater? POSTED: 06/26/2009 - 09:47 am / quote|
Rattlehead EOR
: Personally i dont see whats so great about Images and Word, i mean that is the album that got me into Dream Theater but they have made much better albums i think. And all this about Systematic Chaos not being good, i dont get it. its an amazing album and just cause it doesnt sound like Images and Word its shit. Black Clouds and SIlver Linings is just amazing and i wouldnt ask for anything else from Dream Theater cause im completely satisfied. MIKE PORTNOY SHOULD SING SOME MORE!!! POSTED: 06/26/2009 - 11:17 am / quote|
MADIronMaiden
: Well, I won't take the review of someone who can't even spell LaBrie's name correctly seriously. POSTED: 06/26/2009 - 12:24 pm / quote|
I dont think anyone here, or the reviewers for UG realize what Dream Theater is about. Everyone's main argument is "Well, its not an Images and Words". Fuck yes its not, Dream Theater has never been a throw back band that panders the same sound album after album like Iron Maiden or Megadeth. Did anyone expect"Awake" after "Images And Words"?. Dream Theater is a Progressive Metal band, and probably the only band that has stayed true to their music. Every album is different on so many levels, there is never going to be another Images and Words, or another SFAM. because thats not how DT works. They are constantly changing their sound to fit their mood as a band. [/rant]
YES! Thank you! I love this album and havent stopped listening to it! Yet another great DT album. So many great solos on Petruccis part. POSTED: 06/26/2009 - 01:27 pm / quote|
MADIronMaiden
: You guys should go write reviews on Amazon. The average rating is pretty terrible because of some idiots who hate DT in the first place. It deserves much more. POSTED: 06/26/2009 - 01:45 pm / quote|
Superperfex
: Not all albums will be the same guys. And as for the inspiration, why do you care? Their songs are still their songs. POSTED: 06/26/2009 - 03:45 pm / quote|
MADIronMaiden
: Like I said, some DT fans are never satisfied. Some complain because they think that all of their albums are the same (WTF?) and some others complain because their albums aren't all the same. POSTED: 06/26/2009 - 04:57 pm / quote|
Itsvoogle
: Why do people have to nit pick and bitch about everything?? especially when it comes to DT...why cant people just see the good and hard effort that they put into the album...the great music...id like to see anyone of those who criticize make something better...**** people... POSTED: 06/26/2009 - 07:51 pm / quote|
^^ well all mastodon sing about is monsters and there are no comments about crack the skye being lame are there?
What the **** are you talking about? I don't recall them talking about monsters in midst of Czarist Russia,Rasputin, and wormholes. POSTED: 06/27/2009 - 08:11 pm / quote|
guitarhero2677
: larfed at douchebaggery for about 10 minutes POSTED: 06/28/2009 - 09:03 pm / quote|
Dreiken
: Great album. Best DT's put out in a while. Only complaint is that there's still no new lyrics by Myung. POSTED: 06/28/2009 - 10:18 pm / quote|
Martindecorum
: which is entirely up to Myung to do it, as mike has said many times if Myung writes lyrics they will use it, mind u he has only written lyrics for 4 songs POSTED: 06/29/2009 - 10:08 am / quote|
StratStar21
: best DT since 8va i say. GREAT solos from jp (especially wither, TBOT, and TCOT) TBOT intro reminds me of spirit of radio. i love Jordans keyboards in TCOT, that melody is killer. a great improvement over SC imo and a great album! POSTED: 06/30/2009 - 01:07 pm / quote|
craigydoos
: Anybody who has anything negative to say about this album are obviously jealous musicians who feel the need to be critical over the slightest thing. The truth is DT in my humble opinion are one of the best bands out there, possibly of all time...the creativity, the skill, the passion are simply out of this world and I think Black Clouds is a climax of the past four albums. I read on this forum that they have done nothing new with this album, all been heard before, well thats ridiculous because when an artist paints a picture, that artists style can be seen through his whole portfolio, and its the same with DT, the good thing is their style is simply out of this world and never gets boring or tedious unlike most metal bands nowadays, when you've listened to the first song you've practically heard the whole album thus having no lastability, not so with DT, they sure know how to stir emotion, being sensitive and aggressive and for certain PROGGY! I love these guys and deserve more credit for their acheivements and ability because in a world where new music seems to be getting drabber, DT are a breath of fresh air and Black Clouds is no exception, I LOVE this album and i love DT POSTED: 06/30/2009 - 07:43 pm / quote|
MADIronMaiden
: "I read on this forum that they have done nothing new with this album, all been heard before, well thats ridiculous"
Yeah, it really is! Train Of Thought doesn't sound like Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence, Octavarium doesnt sound like Train Of Thought (at all), Systematic Chaos doesn't sound like Octavarium and this album sounds dark like In The Presence Of Enemies, but overall it doesn't sound like Systematic Chaos. They always alter their sound. Yeah, they always sound like Dream Theater (the way they play, the technical riffs, etc...), but what's wrong with that? It's as if some fans wanted them to change their sound drastically, throw away everything that makes their sound and start sounding like a completely different band. POSTED: 06/30/2009 - 08:16 pm / quote|
^^ well all mastodon sing about is monsters and there are no comments about crack the skye being lame are there?
What the **** are you talking about? I don't recall them talking about monsters in midst of Czarist Russia,Rasputin, and wormholes.
Well almost all of the songs on Blood Mountain are about monsters
I'll give you that, but you were specifically referring to "Crack the Skye" (honestly I don't care about the subject matter as much as how it's delivered)that said I really wish someone would try to convince Mike to stop trying to be in Opeth (it's really not working) POSTED: 07/01/2009 - 06:59 pm / quote|
TwistClock
: The Didn't put any effort is supposed to be Did on my review. Thats rather annoying POSTED: 07/02/2009 - 03:14 am / quote|
Anybody who has anything negative to say about this album are obviously jealous musicians who feel the need to be critical over the slightest thing. The truth is DT in my humble opinion are one of the best bands out there, possibly of all time...the creativity, the skill, the passion are simply out of this world and I think Black Clouds is a climax of the past four albums. I read on this forum that they have done nothing new with this album, all been heard before, well thats ridiculous because when an artist paints a picture, that artists style can be seen through his whole portfolio, and its the same with DT, the good thing is their style is simply out of this world and never gets boring or tedious unlike most metal bands nowadays, when you've listened to the first song you've practically heard the whole album thus having no lastability, not so with DT, they sure know how to stir emotion, being sensitive and aggressive and for certain PROGGY! I love these guys and deserve more credit for their acheivements and ability because in a world where new music seems to be getting drabber, DT are a breath of fresh air and Black Clouds is no exception, I LOVE this album and i love DT
This is true to every word POSTED: 07/03/2009 - 06:41 am / quote|
DroogieSteve
: I feel like slitting Mike's pissing throat so that he can't ruin another Dream Theater song with his piss-poor vocals.
Other than that, the album is pleasing enough. Bits and pieces seem to be repeating of the old stuff though. POSTED: 07/04/2009 - 11:51 am / quote|
GoToSleep
: Good album. People stop crapping on JL. He's getting older and can't be expected to be as good as he once was. Listen to older DT albums and see he's amazing. Worst lyrics on a DT album to date, and MP NEEDS to stop with his nonsense of trying to sound metal. Constant Motion was about as much I can take with that. I still like Systematic Chaos better so far. I thought that one was much better than people give it credit for. Not the best DT album, that honor still goes to Awake. POSTED: 07/06/2009 - 04:42 pm / quote|
Anybody who has anything negative to say about this album are obviously jealous musicians who feel the need to be critical over the slightest thing. The truth is DT in my humble opinion are one of the best bands out there, possibly of all time...the creativity, the skill, the passion are simply out of this world and I think Black Clouds is a climax of the past four albums. I read on this forum that they have done nothing new with this album, all been heard before, well thats ridiculous because when an artist paints a picture, that artists style can be seen through his whole portfolio, and its the same with DT, the good thing is their style is simply out of this world and never gets boring or tedious unlike most metal bands nowadays, when you've listened to the first song you've practically heard the whole album thus having no lastability, not so with DT, they sure know how to stir emotion, being sensitive and aggressive and for certain PROGGY! I love these guys and deserve more credit for their acheivements and ability because in a world where new music seems to be getting drabber, DT are a breath of fresh air and Black Clouds is no exception, I LOVE this album and i love DT
This is true to every word
FAIL. this album is NOT a breath of fresh air it's a breath of air from a recycling factory where everything gets re-used. POSTED: 07/07/2009 - 08:20 pm / quote|
Myung'sMusicman :
Oh yeah if they made a all prog the metal fan base will complain and you see how the prog fans are with the new stuff already... Look back to when Octavarium came out no one liked it (me included I thought it was meh but now I love it)
I agree. when I first listened to Systematic Chaos I thought meh... But ANY new album takes time to sink in... Now i like it as i do all their albums. And after 10 albums there are always gonna be favourites. Think 10 albums in roughly 20 years... hell most bands dont do half of tht in their lifetime! POSTED: 07/11/2009 - 11:23 am / quote|
Kronos Agony
: LaBrie at his best ! POSTED: 07/11/2009 - 03:49 pm / quote|
Entirely agree, his ability really shines through on this album, being a brilliant front man for an awesome band POSTED: 07/12/2009 - 04:24 am / quote|
TwistClock
: The Count of Tuscany Reminds me of the Octavarium Intro. I love it. POSTED: 07/14/2009 - 09:06 pm / quote|
Filip413
: LaBrie has really improved as a musician and shows this to a full extent on this album, Petrucci is the same as always, amazing playing/composing. Its nice to see Rudess taking a more dominant role breaking away from the unison and actually soloing differently from Petrucci. In my opinion Portnoy hit the nail on the head with "Shattered Fortress", its nice to see the saga end the way in which it began with a resurrection of all the older riffs, sure theres not much new material on this track, but the material that is there absolutely kicks ass. Yes Myung's bass parts are quiet, nonetheless they are still present and contribute greatly to the sound of the album. Overall, I really enjoy this album and im hoping the DT albums that follow can match this one POSTED: 07/20/2009 - 02:25 am / quote|
but dream theater is really not progressive in any sense of the word. Progressive music must push the envelope of what music is in general or in this case metal music, it must meld multiple genres together, it must create a soundscape that is unorthodox to the mind and yet familiar as per the regular conventions and prototypes of what music is
= EDGY/CREATIVE.
what you are defining sir, is Skindred. Is Skindred Prog? Nope. They're very creative and original, and pushed the envelope, combining genres... but they are not prog. here you go...
"Progressive metal (sometimes shortened to prog metal) is a fusion genre; a mixture of progressive rock and heavy metal. Progressive metal blends the powerful, guitar-driven sound of metal with the complex compositional structures, odd time signatures, and intricate instrumental playing of progressive rock. Some progressive metal bands are also influenced by jazz fusion and classical music. Like progressive rock songs, progressive metal songs are usually much longer than standard metal songs, and they are often thematically linked in concept albums. As a result, progressive metal is rarely heard on mainstream radio and video programs."
Dream Theater.
Best comment. POSTED: 07/24/2009 - 03:20 am / quote|
BlisteringDDj
: I loved Systematic Chaos, but this album was a huuuge let down. I've listened through it three times, but it doesn't get any better. This is the only Dream Theater album I've not liked so far... POSTED: 07/26/2009 - 04:13 pm / quote|
petrucci_owns86
: dont hit me... but this is my favorite DT album. not just because its new, but because its extremely well-rounded in all aspects. James LaBrie's best performance, also. i love it. yeah, it took a few listens to warm up to it, but now i cant get enough of it.
theres my two cents. POSTED: 08/01/2009 - 05:17 am / quote|
MADIronMaiden
: James LaBrie's best perfomance? How? He's very good, but he never goes high! I'm not implying that you need to go high to be good, but I'd say his best perfomance is on Images And Words because it has everything from powerful high notes to beautiful clean vocals. POSTED: 08/01/2009 - 03:18 pm / quote|
NoahTH
: I think this definitely Dream Theater's best album. At least it's my favorite and that's what I care about. POSTED: 08/06/2009 - 04:05 am / quote|
James LaBrie's best perfomance? How? He's very good, but he never goes high! I'm not implying that you need to go high to be good, but I'd say his best perfomance is on Images And Words because it has everything from powerful high notes to beautiful clean vocals.
Fly no BE FREEEEE!!!!!
nuff said POSTED: 08/06/2009 - 08:08 am / quote|
dont hit me... but this is my favorite DT album. not just because its new, but because its extremely well-rounded in all aspects. James LaBrie's best performance, also. i love it. yeah, it took a few listens to warm up to it, but now i cant get enough of it.
theres my two cents.
I won't hit you xD, I'm with you, this is also probably my favourite DT album yet for the same reason: it's very well-rounded, it has it all.
And this comes for somebody who isn't a big DT fan, just an occasional listener; Systematic Chaos was a big let down for me, but this one compensates for what the previous one lacked. POSTED: 08/08/2009 - 02:38 pm / quote|
SYL7
: I hate how a very small majority can call themselves DT "fans", yet belittle and critisize every album for the last 17 years, especially the last 6. This album is amazing, its certainly the most balanced and consistent for a long time, and Labrie is fantastic on every track, dont know where the hate comes from. POSTED: 08/22/2009 - 09:33 am / quote|
SYL7
: I hate how a very small majority can call themselves DT "fans", yet belittle and critisize every album for the last 17 years, especially the last 6. This album is amazing, its certainly the most balanced and consistent for a long time, and Labrie is fantastic on every track, dont know where the hate comes from. POSTED: 08/22/2009 - 09:33 am / quote|
guitargodwannab
: my in put....
even tho i only have 5 albums....this is by the BEST that ive bought from them. BLACK CLOUDS has many kick ass tracks, LaBrie is awesome on all tracks, Pertucci is shredding like never before, Myung iz just as sick, and then you have Portnoy. I give him all the credit in the world for comming back after hardship and especially comming back after his fathers death to write such a kick ass album with the boys. oh, nd such a touching and moving song THE BEST OF TIMES is eh?
neway,NIGHTMARE TO REMEMBER, A RITE OF PASSAGE, WITHER and COUNT OF TOSCANY included with THE BEST OF TIME make this album the best of the cd's i own and that ive heard from the friends. lets hope that they keep the major momentum and bring us another album like this one.
as for ripping themselves off....everyband does it. i hate to brake the news to u ppl but all bands do that in different ways. ever head FOR THOSE ABOUT TO ROCK and then NIGHT OF THE LONG KNIVES by acdc back to back? the main riff of LONG KNIVES has been taken from FOR THOSE ABOUT TO ROCK. so if your gonna rip T, rip all the other bands
Tosh007
: In the begin i 'bought' the album, andI found it Crap. But I listened it for maybe 100 times already. Now it's really great. You have too appreciate this kind of music. A nightmare to remember in on first sight a metal pieace, but lateron i was thinking of not. These numbers are so freaking awesome. except wither . Waste of money! They can do better. If they make an album with all Count of tuscany's, that would be great:!!
Anyway, I'm going to see them this suterday, PN09 tout, Belgium , Vorst National!!
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