Release Date: Apr 1, 2008
Label: Island
Genres: Alternative Pop/Rock, Emo, Punk-Pop
Number Of Tracks: 15
When the bandmates stick to their talents, Live In Phoenix shows them to be competent musicians who've been irrationally slandered by those outside the emo circle.
Live In Phoenix
Reviewed by:
Jimmyiscool, on june 17, 2008 2 of 2 people found this review helpful
Sound: No surprises here. Fall Out Boy have never been that great live. The instruments are sloppy and vocals are, overall, weak. Across the board, I thought the drums were nice, but the rest was pretty bad. I have never been a fan of Pete's bass work, and, thankfully, they apparently forgot to turn on his bass on this album. I never noticed it once until Dance Dance. Even then it was quiet and lacking in any noticeable tone. I am a fan of this band, and their live experience is generally meant to be viewed and not just heard. // 7
Lyrics and Singing: This is a live album so all the lyrics are from other CDs. I have always been a fan of the wit and sarcasm. However, almost no lyrics are comprehendible on this album. Patrick consistently sounds like his mouth is full of marbles. // 7
Impression: I will definately listen to this CD more in the future. It's not amazing, but what is? I really didn't like the Beat It cover. It's good for a live CD and is a fairly accurate representation of Fall Out Boy's talent. I was impressed most by Golden, which sounded nice on the piano. I have heard the other live version on Leaked in London, but I think that this one was much better. I may have disliked the pieces, but when they are put together they provide a nice time. // 8
Live In Phoenix
Reviewed by:
gomezm149, on august 29, 2008 0 of 0 people found this review helpful
Sound: If you have been or seen a live performance, you know what to expect. This album though, does have some improvement. It seems that they have concentrated more on adding grace notes and new solos to their music. Though, the singing and playing could use some more practice and improvement, they did an okay job. The sound also was very varied from song to song. It seemed as though there was some tweaking going on during the actual performance. It would have been a better performance if the lead singer would learn to project instead of shout-sing into the microphone, it would make his voice sound way better. // 5
Lyrics and Singing: The lyrics were the same as in previous albums, except for a couple variations. During the concert Fall Out Boy covered Akon's "Don't Matter," Micheal Jackson's "Beat It," Panic at the Disco's "I Write Sins Not Tragedies," and "One and Only." There is also a variation of Fall Out Boy's "Dance, Dance" at the end credits. This variation makes "Dance, Dance" a slow song. As I have stated before, the lead singer needs to work on his live performance. For some reason, it seemed as though he sang the covers of the songs listed above, rather well. // 8
Impression: I really loved this CD/DVD for two reasons. The performance was eye-catching and enjoying to watch, and the extras included snippets of the band that let you into their lives a bit. I would suggest getting it if you're a Fall Out Boy fan, but if you're not, there's nothing really special about it. I probably wouldn't buy it again if it got lost or stolen. // 9
Live In Phoenix
Reviewed by:
Carman101, on april 21, 2008 2 of 8 people found this review helpful
Sound: I just got the CD and DVD yesterday and I think it's deffinately the best Fall Out Boy have ever performed live. I think Fall Out Boy always have a good sound. They sound more like the original tracks on this CD than any other live performance, of course there are a few bits where they sing in a different key but it still sounds great. Also the recording of 'Beat It' is awesome! It sounds just like the Michael Jackson version but more of a rock version, Patrick also sang it very well, deffinately did not put the song to shame like some bands do when they try to remake a song that is already made. // 7
Lyrics and Singing: I've always liked the Lyrics Fall Out Boy use in their songs. Patrick has got a really good singing voice for singing the lyrics to the songs for a guy who hasn't had a singing lesson. I personally love the lyrics to 'Thnks Fr Th Mmrs' I think it's an awesome song. Pete Wentz also sings a little bit of Gothic Rock during some of the songs which sounds pretty good although, I ain't really a fan of gothic rock but it still sounds good. // 7
Impression: This CD is pretty much songs Fall Out Boy already made in other Albums and they all sound a lot like the original songs. I think the most impressive song is 'Beat It' I think they did a really good job at singing and playing it. I love every song on the CD, there's not a thing I hate. I would deffinately buy it again if it got stolen/lost. // 7
Live In Phoenix
Reviewed by:
DkassBTU, on june 26, 2008 0 of 2 people found this review helpful
Sound: The overall sound quality of the album is practically perfect, which is the most important part. On top of that however is the fact that Patrick puts so much more emotion into his vocals live than he ever did in the studio, which is astounding. The drums are also more noticeable than the guitars, but it comes out fine, since they really get you into it much more. I do wish the guitars didn't sound so washed out and in the background, which is what is keeping the sound from getting a 10. // 9
Lyrics and Singing: As stated above, Patrick's vocals and the bands backing vocals are at a state of perfection that surpasses even the studio recording. The extra emotion really is worth it, and of course these are the Fall Out Boy lyrics fans of the band have come to know and love. Grand Theft Autumn and Saturday still hit home with vocals that bring back nostalgia of the "old" days. Having an equal share of all their full length albums was a great decision for this show. Hardcore fans might be disappointed by the lack of Evening Out With your Girlfriend songs, but for the casual fan and even hardcore fans, this set list is hard to argue with. // 10
Impression: This live performance had all the energy it needed, constantly coming at you from all directions. Considering how much more I love concerts and live albums than studio recordings, this is a must have for me, and I would think for any die hard Fall Out Boy fan. I may not be a hardcore fan of the band, but I do know what I love from th previous studio albums and the greatest hits are here. Until they some day retire and release a best of album, consider this that for their first three albums. As previously stated, some fans may be disappointed by the lack of EP material, but I don't think anyone would be expecting FoB to sing that live in 2008. Considering that my favorite album was their first LP, I have no complaints about this album. Amazing show, my only problem was that I wasn't there in person to see it. // 10
Live In Phoenix
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decaydance_rokk, on june 16, 2008 0 of 2 people found this review helpful
Sound: Fall Out Boy is really exceptional when it comes to rock. Some people who don't really listen to them or aren't fimiliar with their style of music are generally cautious about them. They aren't afraid to speak their mind and aren't afraid to do things differently. Live In Phoenix is a really amazing CD allowing us to hear them playing their music the way they want to without any boundaries. Patrick Stump has amazing vocals for someone who hasn't taken lessons and unlike some bands he doesn't need a huge sound board to alter his voice to make it sound good. Pete, Joe, Patrick, and Andy all show their true colors in this CD. // 9
Lyrics and Singing: Pete Wentz has a knack for putting words on paper. Allusions and metaphorical phrases are common in his lyrics. He adds a new demension to the rock genre, and is really insightful to the things going on in the real world around us. From Take This To Your Grave to Infinity On High, the songs that they love to play is on this CD/DVD and the lyrics are 100% amazing all the way through. It takes a real talent and passion for music to be able to write songs like Pete does. And making Patrick the lead singer was a wise choice. You can't get any better than that. // 10
Impression: Fall Out Boy is an amazing band with really talented people playing intricate music that is important to them. Their songs are really beyond the standard rule. My favorites are: Calm Before The Storm (it has amazing guitar music, and the vocals and lyrics are really symbolic), Dance, Dance (it is a fun song to dance to believe it or not and the lyrics are something that some bands would be wary about writing) and I've Got A Dark Alley And An Idea That Says You Should Shut Your Mouth (it is an acoustic song overlaid with distortion and the lyrics really mean something to me; trying to overcome obstacles to achieve your dreams and knowing it's not easy), Golden (this is a complete stretch from the guitars, settling with piano and vocals. Patrick stump does an amazing job of this song on the live CD), Don't You Know Who I Think I am? (this song is about not giving up on relationships and life, that there is always something) and Thriller (talks about how successful they are even though they were told they wouldn't make it and the harmony of the guitars. Patrick again does an amazing job with this song on the live cd. Joe definetly shows his colors during the live performance in phoenix, changing up the rhythm and adding new solos). I didn't really hate anything about this album other than they didn't include all the songs from the concert. I love everything else though, they really went above and beyond. Two Thumbs Up! I would not lose this CD/DVD but if it were stolen I would have to buy it again. It's not something I could just say oh well it was stolen. If Fall Out Boy is planning on making a new album soon, they seriously need to follow their hearts and never listen to all the haters. And hopefully it will come out soon! // 10
I don't know about anyone else, but Fall Out Boy or no Fall Out Boy, I wouldn't buy a live album where the songs sound just like the studio version.
And, Fall Out Boy did put Beat It to shame, as well as all the other covers they do.
THIS IS NOT MUSIC
get this emo shit outta here.. jesus
Have you bothered to listen to Fall Out Boy?? There's nothing even close to "emo" about the music. Especially "Take This To Your Grave", it's all punk-rock/pop-punk/whatever you want to call it. I know they get a lot of criticism for being who they are and mainly 'cause of their fan base and how many emo and scene kids listen to em' but that doesn't actually make them emo or scene, they're still musically the same band.
As musicians they're very good, their drummer can be incredibly technical and they have two very good guitarists. I don't think Peter Wentz is an amazing bassist or screamer when it comes down to it, but altogether musically they aren't a bad band. You've just gotta try and look past all the emo/scene kids who bum them.
Try listening to the music and not judging them on the fans or what anyone else says! I can face that they're always gonna be a band who are hated but jeeze, try listening to the music for once and not being a complete idiot about it!
THIS IS NOT MUSIC
get this emo shit outta here.. jesus
FOB = EMO ? I don't like them either but they aren't emo. I guess pete wentz is wanna be emo, but none of their music is even close emo... its evil to all emo people.
But I still would buy this.
Here we go again. Anything with Fall Out Boy, anywhere on here, turns in to the Ultimate Guitar Roast of Fall Out Boy. I would bring up the fact that this is a "Fall Out Boy album review" and there's no point to look at it if you don't like them, but that might be too high a level of thinking for the idiots that I'm referring to. I'm sick of people bashing them, who haven't even listened to a full album. Radio singles are radio singles for a reason and if that's all you've heard, that doesn't qualify you to talk crap about them. If you want to argue about the guitarists, whatever. They do have a really talented drummer and Patrick Stump has a pretty good range. I do admit that they used to suck live but they've improved quite a bit over the last couple of years... Calling them emo is just ignorant. I suppose if you don't actually listen to them and just make fun of them, you wouldn't know that though... I guess I'm done. I know this isn't going to make any difference but I had a couple minutes to kill. So to cater to all you hostile idiots and give you some ammunition, you like school in the summertime, eff you etc. etc. Carry on...
Take This To Your Grave was excellent, From under The Cork Tree was OK, Infinity on High was rubbish. I probably won't bother with this, as much as I do love some of their songs.
This is a really good cd. I love how they bash Panic at the Disco. The dvd is pretty good. I thought the beat it cover was excellent. But I really don't understand why they needed John Mayor for the solo. It dosn't seem so hard.
listen up u haters ur all ****in jealous for two reasons 1 they can definitly get more girls than u and 2 they are a platinum band and the haters sound like shit. Your so jealous because they have money girls and their own label and they probabl can play music better that all the haters
Oh and with the eyeliner. Just because someone wears eyeliner dosn't make them emo. Im pretty sure certain bands who play rock or Metal or whatever wear eyeliner too. Like, look at Twisted Sister, Dee Snider wears that shit but you *******s don't call him emo now do you?
This is a really good cd. I love how they bash Panic at the Disco. The dvd is pretty good. I thought the beat it cover was excellent. But I really don't understand why they needed John Mayor for the solo. It dosn't seem so hard.
But I'd review this cd later.
I guarantee that Patrick was going to play the solo but the label was like "WE WANT TEH PUBLICITIEZZZ!!!111!!!1!1" and had John Mayer do it.
THIS IS NOT MUSIC
get this emo shit outta here.. jesus
Have you bothered to listen to Fall Out Boy?? There's nothing even close to "emo" about the music. Especially "Take This To Your Grave", it's all punk-rock/pop-punk/whatever you want to call it. I know they get a lot of criticism for being who they are and mainly 'cause of their fan base and how many emo and scene kids listen to em' but that doesn't actually make them emo or scene, they're still musically the same band.
As musicians they're very good, their drummer can be incredibly technical and they have two very good guitarists. I don't think Peter Wentz is an amazing bassist or screamer when it comes down to it, but altogether musically they aren't a bad band. You've just gotta try and look past all the emo/scene kids who bum them.
Try listening to the music and not judging them on the fans or what anyone else says! I can face that they're always gonna be a band who are hated but jeeze, try listening to the music for once and not being a complete idiot about it!
They're all terrible musicians, that's a fact, not an opinion.
THIS IS NOT MUSIC
get this emo shit outta here.. jesus
Have you bothered to listen to Fall Out Boy?? There's nothing even close to "emo" about the music. Especially "Take This To Your Grave", it's all punk-rock/pop-punk/whatever you want to call it. I know they get a lot of criticism for being who they are and mainly 'cause of their fan base and how many emo and scene kids listen to em' but that doesn't actually make them emo or scene, they're still musically the same band.
As musicians they're very good, their drummer can be incredibly technical and they have two very good guitarists. I don't think Peter Wentz is an amazing bassist or screamer when it comes down to it, but altogether musically they aren't a bad band. You've just gotta try and look past all the emo/scene kids who bum them.
Try listening to the music and not judging them on the fans or what anyone else says! I can face that they're always gonna be a band who are hated but jeeze, try listening to the music for once and not being a complete idiot about it!
Neon D-von wrote:
Here we go again. Anything with Fall Out Boy, anywhere on here, turns in to the Ultimate Guitar Roast of Fall Out Boy. I would bring up the fact that this is a "Fall Out Boy album review" and there's no point to look at it if you don't like them, but that might be too high a level of thinking for the idiots that I'm referring to. I'm sick of people bashing them, who haven't even listened to a full album. Radio singles are radio singles for a reason and if that's all you've heard, that doesn't qualify you to talk crap about them. If you want to argue about the guitarists, whatever. They do have a really talented drummer and Patrick Stump has a pretty good range. I do admit that they used to suck live but they've improved quite a bit over the last couple of years... Calling them emo is just ignorant. I suppose if you don't actually listen to them and just make fun of them, you wouldn't know that though... I guess I'm done. I know this isn't going to make any difference but I had a couple minutes to kill. So to cater to all you hostile idiots and give you some ammunition, you like school in the summertime, eff you etc. etc. Carry on...
Why do only ppl who are positive about FoB have good arguments, they got a whole story to tell about why they arent emo. And all haters are like ´they suck´, thats it, the whole message is´ they suck´, thanks for sharing dumb****.
FoB is not EMO , their bassist may not be a good bassist and has an emo haircut but the other 3 are actually pretty good and far from emo. IF you hate FoB, i dont mind its your opinion but please back it up with arguments, if you just say"stupid emo ****azz" then no one except other closeminded people will take you seriously, so please, HATING is O.K. but back it up with arguments
Oh and with the eyeliner. Just because someone wears eyeliner dosn't make them emo. Im pretty sure certain bands who play rock or Metal or whatever wear eyeliner too. Like, look at Twisted Sister, Dee Snider wears that shit but you *****s don't call him emo now do you?
Well, Dee Snider never wrote a song called 'Thnks Fr Th Mmrs'
I watched the vid of Beat It from this concert... It was pretty damn good, considering that I didn't know that Patrick could play any lead guitar. He's better than I expected. Pete still looked like a bit of a nob, though...
Take This To Your Grave was excellent, From under The Cork Tree was OK, Infinity on High was rubbish. I probably won't bother with this, as much as I do love some of their songs.
Yeah, the first album was actually pretty good, nothing special or particularly original but the songs were catchy and fun to listen to.
Since then they have gone completely downhill and their songs have lost all their appeal to me now.
All of you people who think you are special for posting annoying spam comments about them being "emo" and "gay" really aren't. Chances are you listen to even shittier music than this.
I watched the vid of Beat It from this concert... It was pretty damn good, considering that I didn't know that Patrick could play any lead guitar. He's better than I expected. Pete still looked like a bit of a nob, though...
There is no lead guitarist, both of them play the same damn thing. And it sucked, if you're gonna cover a song with a solo, at least DO to the solo.
Why do only ppl who are positive about FoB have good arguments, they got a whole story to tell about why they arent emo. And all haters are like ´they suck´, thats it, the whole message is´ they suck´, thanks for sharing dumb****.
FoB is not EMO , their bassist may not be a good bassist and has an emo haircut but the other 3 are actually pretty good and far from emo. IF you hate FoB, i dont mind its your opinion but please back it up with arguments, if you just say"stupid emo ****azz" then no one except other closeminded people will take you seriously, so please, HATING is O.K. but back it up with arguments
I think you're right, but if you don't like the music there's not that much to say then: "I don't like it."
AdamOnDrums wrote:
I think you're right, but if you don't like the music there's not that much to say then: "I don't like it."
i think its ok to say "i dont like it" because thats a personal opinion, its when people start bashing the fans for liking a band that annoys people (well me anyway lol)
I'm not going to criticise Fall Out Boy, they may be annoying sometimes but they do write catchy songs.
Too people who call them emo, you could get off with calling Pete emo, but not one song of theres that I have heard is sad. Ah, and the guitarist listens to stuff like Iron Maiden, that's not very emo is it? And tbh if you replaced Pete with some guy with long hair, you wouldn't be calling them emo, you would be calling them ***** pop.
Ah, and I thought this review was terribly written, although it was kind of constructive criticism, so props for that.
they are not emo, they used to be a bit but they were over-exxagerated. This live CD/DVD proves that they are a rock band trying to make it big, just like everyone else.
Panic at the disco, removed their exclamation mark. This is showing that they are rock and not emo.
I've heard all the usual Fall Out Boy bashing that I completely agree with, but has anyone cared to point out yet that the grammatical level that the review is written on is synonymous with that of an 8th grader?
Personally, I wouldn't have too much of a band if they didn't put up that hipster facade that makes people say "oooh u just dnt lyk dem cuz dey kewler than you!!!1!"
If if makes you cool for removing the vowels from all of your words and shopping at the same stores in the mall as everyone else, then, by all means, label me lame.
holy crap! a lot of you people are so dumb. you know there is more to music then how the band dresses and crap like that. i do like fall out boy though they are not my favorite band by far. take this to your grave and from under the cork tree are both great albums, infinty on high how ever not so much. if you dont like fob fine that doesnt mean you have to constantly bash them that just makes you look like a dick.
I would find this review viable had it used proper grammar...
This is a horrid review, "Ain't," "deffinately," etc...
Check out your spelling and syntax before submitting something please. Still not going to check this CD out, no interest, but please write good reviews...
lolz this admittedly is not a good review. Why don't we get back to that, shall we? I like FOB but this review does absolutely nothing for me. Being a general fan of music, it also doesn't tell me anything concrete about the musicianship. To the reviewer, next time try actually addressing the performance in some depth... I might check out the album because I have all of their other CD's and it wouldn't be much of an effort to complete the collection. On that note, has anyone else even heard "Evening Out With Your Girlfriend"? That's actually their first album and it's good stuff. More of a raw punk feel. The production quality isn't the best but it rarely is on a band's debut and it adds to the feeling of the album. If you liked "Take This to Your Grave", you should check it out.
i didn't think they were that great live. they weren't terrible, but they weren't worth the $50 tickets. like i've seen people say, it's stump's singing that's a bit shaky.
Oh and with the eyeliner. Just because someone wears eyeliner dosn't make them emo. Im pretty sure certain bands who play rock or Metal or whatever wear eyeliner too. Like, look at Twisted Sister, Dee Snider wears that shit but you *****s don't call him emo now do you?
Well, Dee Snider never wrote a song called 'Thnks Fr Th Mmrs'
So what? Just because the songs called, "Thnks Fr Th Mmrs" dosn't make one band emo? Like seriously, all the people who come on here probably never listened to their earlier stuff. You guys just listen to when they made it mainstream and shit. Or your just jealous that there someplace where your not. They have all the money,cars, bitches and whatever they want. Do you really think that if you bitch enough about them that there going to lose all of it? No. There just going to laugh at all the people who hate them. I admit, I didn't like FOB when I first heard them, but then I actually TRIED LISTENING TO THEM and now I like them.
But I love how you people rabble rabble and rant how there emo .. someone please explain how they're emo. They don't scream in all of their songs. Just because one person in the band wears eyeliner you all assume that he's gay? It's the best choice of being engaged to Ashlee Simpson but come on. He's obviously straight.
I just don't understand why anyone dosn't give one band a chance. Besides, this is on an album review, not "Who here hates FOB."
to those of you who think IOH was a bad album your stupid. there are two typed of music fob listen to. stuff like pantera, and rap and r&b. havent any of u noticed IOH has an awesome r&b sound? well if you havent thats what they were going for.
and to the people who think fob doesnt have any emo songs your WRONG!!!!! Nobody Puts Baby in the Corner, My Hearts the Worst Kind of Weapon, dont you people understand lyrics?
no one can deny that fob can create great melodies for songs unrelated to any song ever made.
and last, John Mayor played the solo at the show because he played the solo on the album IDIOTS!!!
Good lord i think the fans piss me off almost as much and the no-life haters...
The labels 'emo' and 'indie' are too easily thrown around these days by ignorant people trying to classify something they don't understand. Most of the bands called either these days aren't that at all. Neither emo nor indie music actually exists these days. Real emo died a long time ago, and indie actually started out as independent (indie) artists, free from a record label, but now seems to mean any band using Telecasters and at least 1 obscure instrument.
I wonder if these FOB-haters have actually listened to some real emo music? If they had, they would find that Fall Out Boy is nothing like what emo is. Fall Out Boy is punk-pop/rock, they use mainly ironic and pun-filled lyrics and have a good deal of humour in their music and videos.
And besides, emo music actually stands for emotional music. So that would mean all music ever created is emo music. You can't write a song without using emotion. So all you people coming in here saying "fall out boy sucks" etc. can just go back to your mother's basement, and continue jerking off, because that's probably more productive than what you're doing here.
1) I am a Fall Out Boy fan, Take this to Your Grave is one of my favorite Cd's ever, Inifinity on High is pretty good, and From Under the Cork Tree is middle of the road, however, if you don't like them, that's alright too, but maybe there's some thread for that?
2) I think Fall Out Boy does qualify as emo, people just tend to think of emo as synonomous with 'crap', as opposed to anything like a genre,
3) The writing on this review resembles something typed in spanish and then put through a free online translator.
4) From the 30-second clips on iTunes, it sounds bad, I'm not going to buy it, but I am praying it sounds better if one does buy the whole thing
5) 101zorz @ n00bz (Sorry, I've never tried that before, and I figured I'd go for it as long as I'm posting)
listen up u haters ur all ****in jealous for two reasons 1 they can definitly get more girls than u and 2 they are a platinum band and the haters sound like shit. Your so jealous because they have money girls and their own label and they probabl can play music better that all the haters
Foulacy. Appeal to numbers. So just cause they're platinum it makes them good? You sir, are retarded. Oh, and fallout boy is not emo. It's pop. And it still sucks ass.
I've heard them live several times and listened to this cd. You know what? They still sound like dying kittens in a bag of razorblades. No matter how catchy they could ever be in studio it all falls apart on stage. Sometime a while ago I found two of their songs relatively catchy, and then it all went to hell from there because it got old to my ears very quickly. I couldn't find much substance, and then I heard it live. I don't even know why some people would argue that they are amazing artists, because their live performance shows just how amateur they are. And don't tell me I'm jealous or elitist, I'm only stating that I am shocked at some of the fans who think that Fall Out Boy is great live. I don't care how platinum they are or how many girls they get. I'm perfectly happy with the decent amount of girls I get and having my music heard locally. I won't even touch any of the other issues revolving around this band. I rated the cd a 3, that low because it was absolutely terrible, and that high because at least they tried with enthusiasm. Maybe if they practiced more together or something in a few years they won't sound so terrible live and I will have newfound liking of them.
Pete Wentz also sings a little bit of Gothic Rock during some of the songs
What? He randomly started singing a HIM song?
Or is the reviewer just a fool who doesn't recognise that what Pete was actually attempting was "metalcore" vocals, remniscent of his time with Arma Angelus?
u guys are just ****ing haters
FOB has been my favorite band since i first heard them
from take this to your grave
sure they've changed their sound alot, but it's still them
if u don't like their new stuff listen to take this to your grave
i showed it to some of my friends that DESPISE FOB and they were like "...this cannot be them"
don't knock it til u try it
and beat it is a great cover
most other bands would have freeking killed it
i freeking hate michael jackson, and they made me like this song
aliceinnirvana :
I've heard them live several times and listened to this cd. You know what? They still sound like dying kittens in a bag of razorblades. No matter how catchy they could ever be in studio it all falls apart on stage. Sometime a while ago I found two of their songs relatively catchy, and then it all went to hell from there because it got old to my ears very quickly. I couldn't find much substance, and then I heard it live. I don't even know why some people would argue that they are amazing artists, because their live performance shows just how amateur they are. And don't tell me I'm jealous or elitist, I'm only stating that I am shocked at some of the fans who think that Fall Out Boy is great live. I don't care how platinum they are or how many girls they get. I'm perfectly happy with the decent amount of girls I get and having my music heard locally. I won't even touch any of the other issues revolving around this band. I rated the cd a 3, that low because it was absolutely terrible, and that high because at least they tried with enthusiasm. Maybe if they practiced more together or something in a few years they won't sound so terrible live and I will have newfound liking of them.
they sound like crap live because they like to actually put on a show instead of being boring and just standing there like almost every band does now. the only band ive ever heard who can put both together is green day but even still the only crazy people are billy joe...
THIS IS NOT MUSIC
get this emo shit outta here.. jesus
Have you bothered to listen to Fall Out Boy?? There's nothing even close to "emo" about the music. Especially "Take This To Your Grave", it's all punk-rock/pop-punk/whatever you want to call it. I know they get a lot of criticism for being who they are and mainly 'cause of their fan base and how many emo and scene kids listen to em' but that doesn't actually make them emo or scene, they're still musically the same band.
As musicians they're very good, their drummer can be incredibly technical and they have two very good guitarists. I don't think Peter Wentz is an amazing bassist or screamer when it comes down to it, but altogether musically they aren't a bad band. You've just gotta try and look past all the emo/scene kids who bum them.
Try listening to the music and not judging them on the fans or what anyone else says! I can face that they're always gonna be a band who are hated but jeeze, try listening to the music for once and not being a complete idiot about it!
Talented drummer? Two great guitarists? No Way. A band of retards would have more talent.
they sound like crap live because they like to actually put on a show instead of being boring and just standing there like almost every band does now. the only band ive ever heard who can put both together is green day but even still the only crazy people are billy joe...
People go to concerts to hear music live, not to see these retards jump around on stage. Plus if your buying the live cd, your not gonna see them jumping around on stage like retards anyway are you?
And if theres not a thing you hate then why did you give it 7.
Dude, she likes the number 7, W.E. Point is Fall Out Boy revived a sound that you pathetic ignorants don't recognize because it's not in a minor key half the time.
people should stop jumping the 'ihatefob' bandwagon. I play in a band with a few serious metalheads but I'm not afraid to say I like me some Fall Out Boy as well !
to all the haters or people who are just plain ****ed.
1. the solo for beat it - clearly they used John mayer as a guest... what's so weird about that?
2. the reason you post here to hate FOB is because YOUR lives are so shitty that you get pleasure from TRYING to bring other people down that are making it way more than you.
3. whrere's you million records sold? hmm? show me? i'd like to see it?
4. grow some balls.
5. if people go to a concert to just hear the music, why go? why not stay hom and listen to a perfectly recorded CD? Concerts are about the atmosphere and performance, not just hitting ever note.
6. and finally. music changes, it always will, if a band didnt change and they had the same sound on every record, wats the point of even continuing? Take this to your grave was to put them out there, now they're up to infinity on High and they can play what they want and try out the different genres.
oh and Beat it is an amazing cover, go cut ur wrists deeper emos, please, kill yourself. if u all do, their wont be any left and we wont have to look at u anymore =D
FOB are awesome,and are my all time favorite band. They played Beat It extremely well. Saying that, this CD wasnt the best. The vocals were very strained. When FOB came out to SA they were awesome, needless to say, they sounded better out here than in Pheonix.
Who cares if they are EMO or Rockers...they are musicians non the less, and they are great at what they do...else I wouldnt be typing this comment. Get a life guys.
will you guys stop trying to put a lable on them?! stop trying to put them down, saying that they are stupid and gay and just want to be famous. they are a very well put together band and they should get some credit. patrick has been working his *** off with the vocals and pete doesn't suck at bass. joe and andy hardly get any credit and without them the band would suck. so get off their case about their music; they are just writing stuff that is important and means something to them. let them do their stuff. if they go in a new direction, guess what, they go in a new direction. good bands don't do the same thing over and over again and fall out boy has definetly shown their true colors with infinity on high and the **** live in phoenix albums. just stop wasting your time writing hateful comments. why read something about a band you don't like, don't listen to, and don't plan to. geez get a life.
One more thing... Please please clean the ****ing ear wax out of your ears. Patrick Stump will always be one of the greatest vocalist in the world and will always be better than 95% of the population. No he does not sound horrible live. sometimes he may have a bad time but everyone does. but if you weren't so biased you would know that he works hard to achieve his goals. sigh you guys are pathetic.
I have to say, the quality of their performance was kind of a let down. I won't hold it against them though because I have seen them two times where the improvement has been so radical that it was like listening to a different band.
Beat It is probably the best remake of a michael jackson song, but I'm not saying its brilliant. Most remakes of his are pants but this is particularly good, because fob's lead vocals really capture the sound that needs to be acheived.
no way are fob good enough to cover beat it. they dont deserve the privelege of covering such a legendery song. and to do it with john mayer, well... john has really sunk to a low level to do this
Just like to repeat what's been said before.
Seeing as it's cool for the haters to do so.
- FOB aren't emo. At all. As far as I'm concerned they play Pop-Punk. And they play it far far better than all the other Pop/Rock bands you hear on Kerrang, etc.
- No, they aren't the 4 greatest musicians in the world. Nobody thinks they are. When someone says "They're actually pretty talented", they're not saying "They're as talented as the guys in Dream Theater". Patrick is a very good singer, and Andy is a great drummer. Paticularly his work on Take This To Your Grave, which, as has been said, most people haven't listened to.
- Yes, they're far from flawless live, but they have a whole load of fun, playing music THEY enjoy, for a LOT of money. If that's not ****ing winning at life I don't know what is.
I appreciate FOB because they make catchy, dare I say, fun, music. No, they don't play highly technical music, but they've never claimed to be anything other than a pop band. I appreciate BTBAM, DT, Opeth, etc, because they do play highly technical music. If you don't like it, don't ****ing listen.
Ok I admit they may not even be on my respected list but that has nothing to do with there classification. Now If any of you play Rock Band (and i know you do) the stock song list can be divided in to genre. Would anyone like to take a guess as to what the only "emo" song was. Yeah, you guys know im right too.
they sound like crap live because they like to actually put on a show instead of being boring and just standing there like almost every band does now. the only band ive ever heard who can put both together is green day but even still the only crazy people are billy joe...
....Are you kidding me? green day is the only band who puts on a good live show and still sound good? I heard some of their live stuff on the radio, it sounds so bad, and they even had to hire more musicians to play for them while they 'put on a good show'. Rage Against the Machine has some of the best live stuff ive ever seen, and the quality of the music only goes up( although Zach does lose some of the emotion in his voice live IMO).
But on topic, fall out boy is terrible, they are everything that is wrong with music nowadays. First of all, they are NOT emo, or punk or whatever you are trying to call them, it had already been stated why they aren't emo, and modern punk is pretty much dead, the only part that remains are hardcore punk, bands like Rise Against, and Anti-Flag.
Fall out boy is toned-down, made for radio, pop crap. They play annoying songs with a whiny, high-pitched voice. the musicians are terrible, no wonder the guitarist couldn't even manage a tapping solo from Beat It.
Oh, and please stop dropping the fact that fall out boy sells records, no shit! Thats what pop bands do. No, im not jealous that im not in a shitty pop band that millions of people hate, and i promise you I could out riff/solo the guitarist
they sound like crap live because they like to actually put on a show instead of being boring and just standing there like almost every band does now. the only band ive ever heard who can put both together is green day but even still the only crazy people are billy joe...
....Are you kidding me? green day is the only band who puts on a good live show and still sound good? I heard some of their live stuff on the radio, it sounds so bad, and they even had to hire more musicians to play for them while they 'put on a good show'. Rage Against the Machine has some of the best live stuff ive ever seen, and the quality of the music only goes up( although Zach does lose some of the emotion in his voice live IMO).
But on topic, fall out boy is terrible, they are everything that is wrong with music nowadays. First of all, they are NOT emo, or punk or whatever you are trying to call them, it had already been stated why they aren't emo, and modern punk is pretty much dead, the only part that remains are hardcore punk, bands like Rise Against, and Anti-Flag.
Fall out boy is toned-down, made for radio, pop crap. They play annoying songs with a whiny, high-pitched voice. the musicians are terrible, no wonder the guitarist couldn't even manage a tapping solo from Beat It.
Oh, and please stop dropping the fact that fall out boy sells records, no shit! Thats what pop bands do. No, im not jealous that im not in a shitty pop band that millions of people hate, and i promise you I could out riff/solo the guitarist
the only part that you responded from me is the first paragraph first of all. second of all, if you think they are a band thats just for the radio, then you obviously dont pay attention, they average 2 singles per album which is normal the rest of the songs sound way better than their singles (im not joking if you listened to the take over the breaks over youd probably understand). second, you dont have to be an insane lead guitarist to be good its called creativity. besides if you want to bash appropriately say that to john mayer he redid the solo.
joe trohman is actually really good at solos, they just dont make crazy solo's mainly cause it wouldnt match any of their songs. and i said green day is the only band ive HEARD put on a near perfect live performance. if you see him, the singer runs up and down the stage at a full sprint and still sounds great.
fall out boy sings pretty low most of the time compared to bands like guns and roses and aerosmith.
the REALLY funny thing is that the people who like fob know they arent emo, that is the fob-haters so hate those retard people who think they know what their talking about. another thing is that they are pretty only pay attention to their loyal fans and not the scene people like you make it out to be. if they were that desperate they would be doing all kinds of projects.
one last thing, if you didnt judge a band by the singles then you would realize they sound better than you think. their songs can be really light but sometimes they take advantage of their krank amps and actually use heavy riffs.
if they are on album four and still get major support, they are probably doing something right. the pop bands that totally suck usually get on the radio with one song and literally die
pnkr0cker :
its probably hard to play their stuff and sing, their strumming paterns arent steady eight notes usually unless its a single.
Pfft..... what the f*** ever. The guy from BSC sings while he solos. Bottom line no one will ever throw out that good heroine scream that Kurt had. And as far as punk being good, it hasnt been good since the early 90's
Okay. Nobody has a real good argument against them other than "they suck" or somethign similar. So since we are in need of a decent argument, here I am to save the day.
First off, I want to say that I don't mind Fall Out Boy. They write catchy tunes, and I'll bang my head to it with whoever else. They're also one of the few bands that still makes interesting music videos. And for that I commend them.
That being said, they're not all that talented musically. Sure it's catchy, but it's also simple. The drummer has some sweet fills in a few songs, but the guitarists play 99% power chords and octaves. The other 1% is simple little riffs ("Like in Sugar We're Going Down"). But nothing complicated at all. Sugar We're Going Down is one of the first songs I ever learned on guitar. The reason John Mayer did the solo is just because FOB can't solo. (And the solo in the original song was by Eddie Van Halen for crap's sake. Hard to top that.) Find me a song where they play a decent solo and I'll apologize, but I have yet to hear it. Oh and Patrick Stump sounds like a moose live. There. I said it.
I don't really have a beef with Fall Out Boy themselves. In my opinion there are much more talented bands that deserve more recognition than them. Like Chiodos, Firewind, Lamb of God, Anberlin, Atreyu, My Chemical Romance... I could go on and on.
And for the record they are NOT emo. Pete Wenz wears eyeliner. and dyed his hair black. And there's that one line on From Under the Cork Tree that goes "There's a ribbon on my wrist that says do not open before Christmas." That's about it. They're like... powerpop or something. I don't even know anymore with all these different labels people come up with. But not emo. That's just ignorant.
That's my 2 cents. Thanks for reading.
Probs the most outrageous statement ive read in a while. A good CD, buy it if your a fan, dont if your not. Some good posts on here though, i like seeing both sides of the FOB reviews.
to all the haters or people who are just plain ****ed.
1. the solo for beat it - clearly they used John mayer as a guest... what's so weird about that?
2. the reason you post here to hate FOB is because YOUR lives are so shitty that you get pleasure from TRYING to bring other people down that are making it way more than you.
3. whrere's you million records sold? hmm? show me? i'd like to see it?
4. grow some balls.
5. if people go to a concert to just hear the music, why go? why not stay hom and listen to a perfectly recorded CD? Concerts are about the atmosphere and performance, not just hitting ever note.
6. and finally. music changes, it always will, if a band didnt change and they had the same sound on every record, wats the point of even continuing? Take this to your grave was to put them out there, now they're up to infinity on High and they can play what they want and try out the different genres.
oh and Beat it is an amazing cover, go cut ur wrists deeper emos, please, kill yourself. if u all do, their wont be any left and we wont have to look at u anymore =D
One more thing... Please please clean the ****ing ear wax out of your ears. Patrick Stump will always be one of the greatest vocalist in the world and will always be better than 95% of the population. No he does not sound horrible live. sometimes he may have a bad time but everyone does. but if you weren't so biased you would know that he works hard to achieve his goals. sigh you guys are pathetic.
really.....really.....really...95% thats a big claim.
now i know we are going to call me close minded and a idiotic metalhead, but i honestly dislike this band. they arent good live, i saw em on the new years eve thing and if you arent gonna give a show your all then , you probably wont at a regular concert. and i didnt dig the cover of beat it did kinda suck.
and lastly, metalheads have opinions too. if we say we dislike a band lets say....coldplay. i dislike them, but if i say that people call me ignorant then say something like your opinion is not fact and how im closeminded. then they say their opinion like it is fact then they say how "open minded" they are. ya'll need to work on that.
but please ignore me, im nothing but a "close minded metalhead"
Oh, and one more thing. If you want a real good cover of a Michael Jackson song, listen to Alien Ant Farm's "Smooth Criminal."
I liked the heavier distortion on FOB's "Beat It", but the solo just doesn't compare to Eddie Van Halen's.
W.E. Point is Fall Out Boy revived a sound that you pathetic ignorants don't recognize because it's not in a minor key half the time.
you all suck tey make better music than youll ever will