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21st Century Breakdown Review

artist: green day date: 07/16/2009 category: compact discs
21st Century Breakdown
 Sound:8.4
 Lyrics:8.5
 Impression:8.8
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guitartiger :
my favorites r before the lobotomy, 21st century breakdown, east Jesus nowhere, and restless heart syndrome
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 03:09 am / quote |
IbanezBassman :
true punx
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 07:49 am / quote |
Bair :
i like American Eulogy because we get to hear Mike sing for the first time that I know of
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 07:50 am / quote |
TwistedLogic :
At first I was like, "Billy Joe thinks he is Bono's little brother and wants to make IMPORTANT music." But We should not be so guick to judge and if the band pulls this off then more power to them. I will give it an objective listen. Good even-handed reviews by all, thanks
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 07:57 am / quote |
Superperfex :
A true evolution. Great job Green Day.
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 08:07 am / quote |
JayLacelle :
Bair wrote:

i like American Eulogy because we get to hear Mike sing for the first time that I know of


he sang on homecoming...

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 08:10 am / quote |
greendaymexico :
Bair: Mike's vocals can also be heard on J.A.R (that last segment), Homecoming, and Governator. I'm in no way criticizing or scolding you and I hope you don't take it the wrong way, I'm just giving you a tip on what you should definitely check out.
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 08:11 am / quote |
blajano :
This album is really great, and worth the wait. 9/10. Props to Green Day for the great music.
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 08:27 am / quote |
lefthandman9876 :
streamed it, eh.
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 08:35 am / quote |
withoutanyname :
restless heart syndrome for single, 100% sure
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 08:47 am / quote |
mattiwillohouse :
the title track is my favourite. I'll always love Green Day, and no matter what they turn thier hand to I'll give it a chance. If they sound pretentious big deal, they make great music and are always trying something different, which is more than I can say for Metallica, Triv, Bodom etc with thier MASSIVELY over-used metal gallop. Go Green Day, you still rock guys )
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 09:09 am / quote |
AlexBarraclough :
i download the deluxe version on itunes and got 4 bonus tracks. 'A quick one whilst he's still away', 'Another state of mind', 'That's all right' and 'Like a rolling stone'.
Are some of these covers or are they original GD songs?

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 09:12 am / quote |
zeroordie6868 :
JayLacelle wrote:

Bair wrote:

i like American Eulogy because we get to hear Mike sing for the first time that I know of

he sang on homecoming...


Where? All I know of who sings on "Homecoming" is Billie Joe and Tre

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 09:20 am / quote |
The_String_Man :
lol at first review. Green Da!
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 09:36 am / quote |
200tommo791 :
9 and 1/2 or 10 for my review, what a fantastic album. I agree with J.C (that second review) about how skeptical I was about it all. I got into them around American Idiot, went back and yes, moved on. But God damn, this album is great, really different. Pleasant surprise.
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 09:42 am / quote |
mysfarbror :
@AlexBarraclough: Like a rolling stone is originally by Bob Dylan
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 09:53 am / quote |
Quicksand15 :
ridiculously bad record.
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 10:00 am / quote |
thedudemeister :
Just bought it, listening to it now
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 10:08 am / quote |
ChemyVamp :
Quicksand15 wrote:

ridiculously bad record.


you sure have no taste and prefer dookie rite?

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 10:11 am / quote |
The Tak :
good review
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 10:13 am / quote |
kgesme21 :
AlexBarraclough wrote:

i download the deluxe version on itunes and got 4 bonus tracks. 'A quick one whilst he's still away', 'Another state of mind', 'That's all right' and 'Like a rolling stone'.
Are some of these covers or are they original GD songs?

They're all covers if I remember correctly.
Also, amazing album! Will definitly be getting heavy rotation in my player.

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 10:14 am / quote |
Newse :
IbanezBassman wrote:

true punx


haha, no

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 10:19 am / quote |
BassGuitar Hero :
I don't like it. After Green Day started to become political their music started to decline. Becoming politcal is a good thing for a band because it says they are thinking about more than themselves, but when your music gets worse it isn't good.
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 10:31 am / quote |
Confetti :
And at the cover the band mates finally share a kiss. Aaaawwww.
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 10:40 am / quote |
febick :
"I dont want to live in the modern world..." man that's my favorite part of "American Eulogy", are you crazy? That's such an awesome statement.
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 10:49 am / quote |
Izzy_Bryce :
not good lyrics???? horrible. giving a 6.3 is flat out harsh

since wen was "bite my lip and close my eyes" good writing? so bias, so bias. and theyre crap has always been repetitive. everyone who hates green day for stupid reasons just hate the fact that tre cool could fart on a snaredrum and it would probably go gold.

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 10:49 am / quote |
darkcheef :
Horrible album, listened to 3 songs (my sister has it) and couldn't take anymore of it.
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 10:49 am / quote |
Iffy-750 :
i like American Eulogy because we get to hear Mike sing for the first time that I know of he sang on homecoming...

Where? All I know of who sings on "Homecoming" is Billie Joe and Tre


About half way through "Homecoming" during "Nobody Likes You". It sounds like Billie Joe, but it is Mike. He also sing "Governator" on the American Idiot single.

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 10:52 am / quote |
KonshinBaka :
Gloooriaaa Viva La Gloriaaaa! YEAH!! allright, that's my fav song, but to the point. 21th Century Breakdown Is awesome, but after waiting that long you'd expect a masterpiece, which it isn't...
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 11:00 am / quote |
Vampire Heart :
zeroordie6868 wrote:

JayLacelle wrote:

Bair wrote:

i like American Eulogy because we get to hear Mike sing for the first time that I know of

he sang on homecoming...

Where? All I know of who sings on "Homecoming" is Billie Joe and Tre


Mike sings in "Governator" too

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 11:01 am / quote |
Haz4510 :
I just got it now and its awesome! worth buying
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 11:05 am / quote |
TJ1991 :
Green Day have always been my favourite band, but this is just something else. Wow.
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 11:21 am / quote |
MiniMusicMasta :
As I own all of them, this is definitely on a par or if not better than Dookie.
Correct, not as many stand out songs as American Idiot, and not as commercial i'd say, but as an album, it is absolutely epic.
The guys did good on this one.

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 11:41 am / quote |
happytimeharry :
Just gave the album a full listen and I've got to say I'm pleasantly surprised. Overall I'd say it's a pretty damned good album. There aren't any songs that I felt the urge to skip over, so that's a good sign lol.
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 11:59 am / quote |
thedudemeister :
A really good album. I enjoyed it.
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 12:03 pm / quote |
Stay Up Late :
Green Day is becoming one of those bands that idiots seem to think it's "cool" to hate.

So what if they changed their style? The basic roots of what they've always been playing is still there in this record. They're in their forties so you can't expect them to be writing the same stuff they wrote twenty years ago. They're growing up and so is the music. It's different but it doesn't mean it's not good. I have a feeling if American Idiot and 21st Century Breakdown were put out under a different band name and the fact that it was Green Day was covered up, people would have no complaints.

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 12:10 pm / quote |
wicked_hobbit :
I totally agree with KidFromMars about its lack of a climactic song. Death of St. Jimmy is a nearly flawless ending for AI and Watsername can be likened to a nice credit roll song in a movie. Breakdown lacks that certain point where the whole listening experience leads the listener to. It might be a waste to place the title track in the beginning since it's such a grand song.But still, these might be my thoughts after listening to the whole piece only twice. It might grow on me later on.
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 12:10 pm / quote |
PrettyxOdd :
The_String_Man wrote:

lol at first review. Green Da!


Reminds me of the guy on heroes: "YATTAH!"

"GREEN DA!"

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 12:15 pm / quote |
lank81 :
I loved Green Day from the Kerplunk / Dookie days but have had some issues with the more pop punkiness throughout the days. The past two albums American Idiot / 21st Century Breakdown still have the poppiness to them but talk about much more indepth things like true punk should. Punks about anarchy, about hating the government, taking down the man, everything green day never was until lately.
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 12:21 pm / quote |
RichyHowardBass :
just bought it, fan bloody tastic, just as good as anything else they have.
green day are the greatest band on the planet by a wide margin, and before any pathetic metalhead calls me a pussy, I DON'T CARE! k thx by

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 12:40 pm / quote |
threedaysgrace9 :
i love this CD. plain and simple, cant wait to see em July 31st!
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 12:53 pm / quote |
Zacky~Vengeance :
Brendan.Clace wrote:

To the douche that says this is far better than Dookie:

Fuck off, and go throw in your american idiot CD. Dookie IS Green Day. These guys have musically evolved into a pit of hell. This sucks, american idiot sucked and these guys need to return to their Dookie roots.

LMAO someone a little stuck in the past? Gotta agree with the other guy, this is way better than dookie and way more INTELLIGENT... I hvn't heard green day sound this good in a long time

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 12:57 pm / quote |
Oddsbodkins :
Bonus tracks on a rock opera? Milking it much?
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 01:05 pm / quote |
 
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Checked.
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 01:13 pm / quote |
Metallidethium :
Shard Heilia. your review is...bad. you don't offer much to back up any of your claims, especially that the lyrics are bad. you took two sets of lyrics out of the context they are originally in and set them off on their own, of course they are going to look out of place and not well written. However a very good review by the UG team and a very good album to date. I'm impressed
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 01:15 pm / quote |
Dymencion :
Butch Vig is a man who knows how to produce a rock record, good stuff.
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 01:16 pm / quote |
LP.Reissue :
[quotejust bought it, fan bloody tastic, just as good as anything else they have.
green day are the greatest band on the planet by a wide margin, and before any pathetic metalhead calls me a pussy, I DON'T CARE! k thx by][/quote]

btw...i hate metalheads xD

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 01:22 pm / quote |
libertines4ever :
yep Horse shoes and Handgrenades really sounds like Main Offender by the Hives
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 01:26 pm / quote |
Greendaypunkit :
Bair wrote:

i like American Eulogy because we get to hear Mike sing for the first time that I know of

no he's sung in Homecoming, in the 'Nobody Likes You' part.

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 01:35 pm / quote |
niel9802 :
theres a typo on the first sentence of UG's review. they spell green day 'green da'
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 01:36 pm / quote |
masterchief44 :
libertines4ever wrote:

yep Horse shoes and Handgrenades really sounds like Main Offender by the Hives


Agreed.
But I HATED the album the first time I listened to it.

I don't know what the hell was wrong with me.
I listened to it again,
and this album is amazing.

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 01:39 pm / quote |
emich :
While it might not be masterful or musically groundbreaking as Nirvana or Smashing Pumpkins’ past works, 21st Century Breakdown does show an incredible amount of depth for Green Day.

lollest statement ever

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 02:09 pm / quote |
hellfire21 :
libertines4ever wrote:

yep Horse shoes and Handgrenades really sounds like Main Offender by the Hives


it does, but it also reminds me of the bridge section of "Prosthetic Head"

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 02:16 pm / quote |
fattypumbaa :
kgesme21 wrote:

AlexBarraclough wrote:

i download the deluxe version on itunes and got 4 bonus tracks. 'A quick one whilst he's still away', 'Another state of mind', 'That's all right' and 'Like a rolling stone'.
Are some of these covers or are they original GD songs?
They're all covers if I remember correctly.
Also, amazing album! Will definitly be getting heavy rotation in my player.


Really? you don't know? Dylan Elvis the Who. STop listening to Green Day ad go get a lesson on REAL Rock N Roll.

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 02:40 pm / quote |
Jau_Peacecraft :
"Green Day ventures into the world of rock operas with 21st Century Breakdown, a scrutinizing look at the post-Bush world.."

Scrutinizing? Yeah, maybe if you shop @ hot topic & think that the voices in your head are other people.

I'm sorry, but Green Day is not nearly as important as many others make them out to be, which sometimes borderlines on The Clash worship (this applies to Rancid too).

The single is atrocious. To be fair to everyone who will disagree with me, though, I intend on listening to the album for the purpose of backing up my low score (which would be a .5, where .5 is only given simply because Green Day actually bothered to go into a recording studio, which helps keep people in the studio business employed in this turbulent economy & enables them to record better music from better bands without worrying about the bills. Thanks Green Day.)

If you want something that actually scrutinizes the "post-Bush" world, pick up Bad Religion's "New Maps of Hell" & pat yourself on the back. The final step would be using google & your own imagination, or actually talking to real people offline & socially-interacting in discussions about music that bothers to be more than market-punk pandering nonsense that is summed up by 21st Century's Breakdown's album cover that uncleverly hints (with the grace of sledgehammer) at "legends" (I guess shooting heroin & playing shit music is still referred to as instant fame) sid & nancy. What's next, a bloody shotgun next to an out of tune guitar?

fyi, sputnikmusic lies less; I'll go before someone bans my dissent from the UG attention span.

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 02:48 pm / quote |
nuthinbutachump :
i laugh at what green day sing about is the exact thing they are
"the corperate *****"

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 02:53 pm / quote |
nuthinbutachump :
i was trying to say W-h-O-r-E by the way
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 02:54 pm / quote |
JFRules :
Green day is ok if your 13. Seems all they want children to lisen to their music.
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 02:56 pm / quote |
Unskathed :
LP.Reissue wrote:

[quotejust bought it, fan bloody tastic, just as good as anything else they have.
green day are the greatest band on the planet by a wide margin, and before any pathetic metalhead calls me a pussy, I DON'T CARE! k thx by]


btw...i hate metalheads xD[/quote]

I'm sorry.

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 03:00 pm / quote |
badfish2829 :
JayLacelle wrote:

Bair wrote:

i like American Eulogy because we get to hear Mike sing for the first time that I know of

he sang on homecoming...


Wasn't that Tre that sang?

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 03:17 pm / quote |
iplayguitar666 :
if you wanna hear a real "rock opera" or "concept album" listen to mastodons newest release. Green days rock operas are a joke, listening to the songs you wouldn't know there was a connection between them without them telling you there was... and its just the exact same chords theyve been playing for 20 years now. all their doing now is playing longer versions of songs that all have sounded the same, recycled garbage.
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 03:18 pm / quote |
TheEsupremacy :
Meh, they lost me somewhere along their musical journey. This cd is ok, nothing ground breaking, but not terrible either.
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 03:20 pm / quote |
randyaintdead82 :
Unskathed wrote:

LP.Reissue wrote:

[quotejust bought it, fan bloody tastic, just as good as anything else they have.
green day are the greatest band on the planet by a wide margin, and before any pathetic metalhead calls me a pussy, I DON'T CARE! k thx by]

btw...i hate metalheads xD


I'm sorry.[/quote]

dont offend the ones with an open mind like me, i like this album, it seemed more dynamic than AI which seemed kinda bland

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 03:23 pm / quote |
Anarchy_Ant :
Zacky~Vengeance wrote:

Brendan.Clace wrote:

To the douche that says this is far better than Dookie:

Fuck off, and go throw in your american idiot CD. Dookie IS Green Day. These guys have musically evolved into a pit of hell. This sucks, american idiot sucked and these guys need to return to their Dookie roots.
LMAO someone a little stuck in the past? Gotta agree with the other guy, this is way better than dookie and way more INTELLIGENT... I hvn't heard green day sound this good in a long time


Rofl, totally agree. Also, i'm pretty sure Green Day get to decide who Green Day are. They've evolved musically, which is awesome for a band to do, especially after being together for so long.

Awesome album.

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 03:36 pm / quote |
uncleSam1 :
Green Day has gone from watered down punk to watered down pop.
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 03:38 pm / quote |
HFR :
I realy like this album I downloaded It from limewire a week before it came out and im still going to go buy it.. This album realy is better then American Idiot {In my opinion} but Green Days Best album for me was Dookie I hope they go back to that. I hpe this happens
Before The Lobotomy{2nd single}
21 Guns{3rd single}
Horseshoes And Handgranades {4th N final single}

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 03:43 pm / quote |
RunawayKaren :
Stay Up Late wrote:

Green Day is becoming one of those bands that idiots seem to think it's "cool" to hate.

Becoming? They already became that when American Idiot came out.

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 03:43 pm / quote |
uncleSam1 :
RunawayKaren wrote:

Stay Up Late wrote:

Green Day is becoming one of those bands that idiots seem to think it's "cool" to hate.

Becoming? They already became that when American Idiot came out.


+ 1

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 03:44 pm / quote |
HFR :
Anarchy_Ant wrote:

Zacky~Vengeance wrote:

Brendan.Clace wrote:

To the douche that says this is far better than Dookie:

Fuck off, and go throw in your american idiot CD. Dookie IS Green Day. These guys have musically evolved into a pit of hell. This sucks, american idiot sucked and these guys need to return to their Dookie roots.
LMAO someone a little stuck in the past? Gotta agree with the other guy, this is way better than dookie and way more INTELLIGENT... I hvn't heard green day sound this good in a long time

Rofl, totally agree. Also, i'm pretty sure Green Day get to decide who Green Day are. They've evolved musically, which is awesome for a band to do, especially after being together for so long.

Awesome album.


Well yeah that true it would be realy pointless to listen to a band who's music sounds the same album through album

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 03:46 pm / quote |
 
 m 
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Checked again
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 03:49 pm / quote |
greendaymexico :

AlexBarraclough wrote:

i download the deluxe version on itunes and got 4 bonus tracks. 'A quick one whilst he's still away', 'Another state of mind', 'That's all right' and 'Like a rolling stone'.

Excuse me but if you bought this you got a digital booklet and the song's writers are listed.
A Quick One While He's Away: The Who
That's All Right: (made famous by) Elvis Presley
Like A Rolling Stone: Bob Dylan
Another State Of Mind: Social Distortion


POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 04:08 pm / quote |
moonatblack :
Epic Fail.Went from real punk to wearing black eye liner and playing alternative.
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 04:25 pm / quote |
ElectriPUNK :
I love all of Green Day's music. People can't expect them to keep coming up with the same old stuff over and over, if they did, you would be critsizing them for that.
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 04:31 pm / quote |
Constapation6 :
Another Green Day masterpeice. also what's good about this album as well as american idiot you get to hear there newer songs unlike their first few albums where they mixed the songs in with them. Still..

amazing

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 04:44 pm / quote |
withoutanyname :
well, it ain't ground breaking, but it ain't bad too, it's pretty decent...

they're exploring new sounds, but the "old" green day is still there, not a lot, but it is somewhere... actually i would find boring a band that sounds the same after each albums, 21st century breakdown is not dookie or nimrod or kerplunk or whatever, i wouldn't like a 2nd dookie, what would be the point in that? the band must evolve in some way, not always sound the same... of course a band will always have a specific sound and you'll recognize them by this particular sound, so this is why you might think it sounds always the same...

'cause anyway, if it would have sounded like dookie, some would have say: "hey, it's déjà-vu, they already made something like this"
and in this case, it's not the same as dookie and some are saying: "hey, we want the old green day, we want another dookie..."
so i say : "what the hell?"

i mean no one will ever be satisfied of whatever is going on...

anyone haves their opinions, their taste in music, if you have some kind of respect for other people, you just don't blast on others music, you just shut your mouth and let them do whatever they want...
so live and let live, live and let die

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 04:47 pm / quote |
withoutanyname :
by the way:
Restless Heart Syndrome, 21 Guns and East Jesus Nowhere as singles... pretty sure 'bout that

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 04:48 pm / quote |
withoutanyname :
ElectriPUNK wrote:

I love all of Green Day's music. People can't expect them to keep coming up with the same old stuff over and over, if they did, you would be critsizing them for that.


+1

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 04:50 pm / quote |
Fritz621 :
ElectriPUNK wrote:

I love all of Green Day's music. People can't expect them to keep coming up with the same old stuff over and over, if they did, you would be critsizing them for that.

AMEN!!!!!

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 04:54 pm / quote |
swansareroadkil :
A.I = awesome
21CB = pile of shit

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 05:20 pm / quote |
Antoine-Øleg :
RunawayKaren wrote:

Stay Up Late wrote:

Green Day is becoming one of those bands that idiots seem to think it's "cool" to hate.

Becoming? They already became that when American Idiot came out.


+Endless

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 05:23 pm / quote |
eggsandham2 :
wow, Shard Heilia, that was a pretty terrible review. all the others were good tho
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 05:24 pm / quote |
acid_eater :
all the haters shut up if you dont like it dont listen to it and whoever said this was american idiots sexier older sister is dead right although i dont think its as commercial, it has a great variety of influences which sound deadly on this fine piece of work
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 05:26 pm / quote |
dobby240 :
niel9802 wrote:

theres a typo on the first sentence of UG's review. they spell green day 'green da'

i think im the only other one that noticd the spellin on the first line of this review xD

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 05:37 pm / quote |
acid_eater :
will all the h8rs please shut up cos if u dont like it u dont have 2 listen 2 it and 2 whoever said it was american idiots sexier older sister is bang on although its not as commercial it has many differing influences which make it an interestin listen
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 05:41 pm / quote |
bucssharktooth :
I'm so sick of everybody blaming the Bush Administration for their problems. Green Day has created an album that blames all of their problems on the Bush Administration, and I think that's chicken shit. I'm so ****ing sick of where rock music is going. All these ****ing retarded bands use nothing but power chords to do nothing but talk shit about the country they live in. Our lives are great, and Obama is doing nothing to change the country. Stop whining. AC/DC, Van Halen, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd...what happened to music like that? Music that was inspired by things greater than politics. Rock and roll is about having fun and partying, not about whining about politics. Besides all of that, this album isn't even that good.
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 06:02 pm / quote |
jplay5 :
peacemaker = cool song. Everything else = meh.
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 06:08 pm / quote |
Snap017 :
Before I speak my mind, I must provide this.

(WARNING: THIS COMMENT MAY BE OFFENSIVE TO SUPPORTERS OF GREEN GA-----DAY. ANYONE WITH AN EASILY UPSET MIND OR STOMACH SHOULD DEFINITELY SKIP THIS COMMENT AND CONTINUE LISTENING TO GARBAGE.)

Now, to the beef of what's in my noggin.

For one, anyone who willingly supports this album, or any past GD albums, is either a 12 year old girl or a ragingly bi-curious 13 year old boy.

I mean, aside from the piano parts, the ENTIRE album has NO variety to it. It doesn't matter what "context" the lyrics are in if the rest of the song is ANOTHER REDUNDANT LYRIC. It's the same drivelling, snot-nosed, repetitive, stupid, alternative bullcrap that's been on mainstream radio since forever. Each track sounds the same if not VERY similar to the last one, the guitar is the same few powerchords over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and *GASP* OVER and over and over and over and OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

Evolving musically doesn't matter if the "evolution" was from total bullcrap to COMPLETE AND TOTAL BULLCRAP.

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 06:09 pm / quote |
sum1udunno :
I haven't listened to Green Day in years. I might pick up a copy out of nostalgia.
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 06:26 pm / quote |
Tapping_Ninja :
All I have to say is this album isn't bad, not the best they've put out (but I've only listen to half of it so Its too hard to tell)
Snap017 wrote:

Before I speak my mind, I must provide this.

(WARNING: THIS COMMENT MAY BE OFFENSIVE TO SUPPORTERS OF GREEN GA-----DAY. ANYONE WITH AN EASILY UPSET MIND OR STOMACH SHOULD DEFINITELY SKIP THIS COMMENT AND CONTINUE LISTENING TO GARBAGE.)

Now, to the beef of what's in my noggin.

For one, anyone who willingly supports this album, or any past GD albums, is either a 12 year old girl or a ragingly bi-curious 13 year old boy.

I mean, aside from the piano parts, the ENTIRE album has NO variety to it. It doesn't matter what "context" the lyrics are in if the rest of the song is ANOTHER REDUNDANT LYRIC. It's the same drivelling, snot-nosed, repetitive, stupid, alternative bullcrap that's been on mainstream radio since forever. Each track sounds the same if not VERY similar to the last one, the guitar is the same few powerchords over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and *GASP* OVER and over and over and over and OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

Evolving musically doesn't matter if the "evolution" was from total bullcrap to COMPLETE AND TOTAL BULLCRAP.


Any band branded by a genre is not going to have much of variety too it... Take ****ing metal for example, bands like necrophagist, White Chapel, Suicide Silence, Dragonforce, or just about any other deathcore band... All their songs are written in the same manner... that's what makes up the bands sound. if you don't like the band don't comment your just being negative for no reason...

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 06:27 pm / quote |
Adam124 :
Considering dookie consisted of songs about sitting bored and wanking, i think they have evolved musically FOR THE BETTER.

Don't get me wrong i absolutely love Dookie but people who think it's wrong for a large number of people to like a band because of what they sound like is wrong, really need wake the hell up.
This band will defintely go down as one of the best bands that ever existed.

Flame all you want, these guys didn't get here by scratching their arses, they deserve it, so give them a bloody break.

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 07:08 pm / quote |
toaster_poodle :
It's pretty obvious that a lot of the people commenting here haven't even listened to the whole album, and if they did they didn't listen to it with an open mind. No variety? Blaming their problems on Bush? Okay...you go ahead and think that way if it makes you feel better. It's a shame so many people are so ignorant and immediate to dismiss Green Day though, because a pop/rock band that actually gets the mainstream recognition it deserves hasn't put out such intelligent, fresh, and culturally significant in a while.
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 07:20 pm / quote |
turncoat60% :
Better than i expected...It is on the same level as American Idiot, which i also enjoyed, but Dookie is still the best.
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 07:29 pm / quote |
user_nameless :
Tapping_Ninja wrote:

All I have to say is this album isn't bad, not the best they've put out (but I've only listen to half of it so Its too hard to tell)Snap017 wrote:

Before I speak my mind, I must provide this.

(WARNING: THIS COMMENT MAY BE OFFENSIVE TO SUPPORTERS OF GREEN GA-----DAY. ANYONE WITH AN EASILY UPSET MIND OR STOMACH SHOULD DEFINITELY SKIP THIS COMMENT AND CONTINUE LISTENING TO GARBAGE.)

Now, to the beef of what's in my noggin.

For one, anyone who willingly supports this album, or any past GD albums, is either a 12 year old girl or a ragingly bi-curious 13 year old boy.

I mean, aside from the piano parts, the ENTIRE album has NO variety to it. It doesn't matter what "context" the lyrics are in if the rest of the song is ANOTHER REDUNDANT LYRIC. It's the same drivelling, snot-nosed, repetitive, stupid, alternative bullcrap that's been on mainstream radio since forever. Each track sounds the same if not VERY similar to the last one, the guitar is the same few powerchords over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and *GASP* OVER and over and over and over and OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

Evolving musically doesn't matter if the "evolution" was from total bullcrap to COMPLETE AND TOTAL BULLCRAP.

Any band branded by a genre is not going to have much of variety too it... Take ****ing metal for example, bands like necrophagist, White Chapel, Suicide Silence, Dragonforce, or just about any other deathcore band... All their songs are written in the same manner... that's what makes up the bands sound. if you don't like the band don't comment your just being negative for no reason...


No offence, Dragonforce = not Deathcore.

Necrophagist = not Deathcore.

No offence, but maybe you should actually know the genre you're trying to insult.

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 07:35 pm / quote |
Chevelle454 :
I thought this was horrible. Both this and american idiot were some pretty bad "albums". If this gets more radio play than AiC i'm going to shit a brick.
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 07:54 pm / quote |
randyaintdead82 :
bucssharktooth wrote:

I'm so sick of everybody blaming the Bush Administration for their problems. Green Day has created an album that blames all of their problems on the Bush Administration, and I think that's chicken shit. I'm so ****ing sick of where rock music is going. All these ****ing retarded bands use nothing but power chords to do nothing but talk shit about the country they live in. Our lives are great, and Obama is doing nothing to change the country. Stop whining. AC/DC, Van Halen, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd...what happened to music like that? Music that was inspired by things greater than politics. Rock and roll is about having fun and partying, not about whining about politics. Besides all of that, this album isn't even that good.


agreed although i somewhat enjoyed a lot of artists these days are just being political activists rather than musicians. i mean yeah its ok to write some songs like that but it gets tiring after hearing one person after another bitch about a leader not changing a countrry when they havent done shit. i hope green day can write something different on the next album.

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 08:02 pm / quote |
XxStrifeXx :
oh shut up. Im listening to it now. Good stuff, 8/10 easily.
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 08:09 pm / quote |
Peter Reardon :
Been wanting to hear this for a long time.
As a side note, I can't see why anyone would be complaining about anything. If you don't like it, move on. Honestly, no one really cares.

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 09:22 pm / quote |
GDrock! :
I love this album. i'v listened to the whole thing several times already and it's great. so glad to hear that they're coming to Australia in Decemeber. :-D why do people even bother posting comments about how crap they think the album is, it's incredibly hard to make an album that sounds this good, so stop complaining and go listen to the Wiggles or watever it is you prefer
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 09:27 pm / quote |
fender9442 :

WTF?! Metal is way better then punk!


the this user fails

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 09:39 pm / quote |
Krimson_Magnus :
"While it might not be masterful or musically groundbreaking as Nirvana..."

This just made me laugh. Seriously dude, it's past April Fool's Day...

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 09:40 pm / quote |
Lead Zeppelin :
I'm so sick of everybody blaming the Bush Administration for their problems. Green Day has created an album that blames all of their problems on the Bush Administration, and I think that's chicken shit. I'm so ****ing sick of where rock music is going. All these ****ing retarded bands use nothing but power chords to do nothing but talk shit about the country they live in. Our lives are great, and Obama is doing nothing to change the country. Stop whining. AC/DC, Van Halen, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd...what happened to music like that? Music that was inspired by things greater than politics. Rock and roll is about having fun and partying, not about whining about politics. Besides all of that, this album isn't even that good.


hell yeah i totally agree with you

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 09:41 pm / quote |
toaster_poodle :
randyaintdead82 wrote:

bucssharktooth wrote:

I'm so sick of everybody blaming the Bush Administration for their problems. Green Day has created an album that blames all of their problems on the Bush Administration, and I think that's chicken shit. I'm so ****ing sick of where rock music is going. All these ****ing retarded bands use nothing but power chords to do nothing but talk shit about the country they live in. Our lives are great, and Obama is doing nothing to change the country. Stop whining. AC/DC, Van Halen, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd...what happened to music like that? Music that was inspired by things greater than politics. Rock and roll is about having fun and partying, not about whining about politics. Besides all of that, this album isn't even that good.

agreed although i somewhat enjoyed a lot of artists these days are just being political activists rather than musicians. i mean yeah its ok to write some songs like that but it gets tiring after hearing one person after another bitch about a leader not changing a countrry when they havent done shit. i hope green day can write something different on the next album.


Care to point me in the direction of all the political lyrics on every song on this album? Hell, how many songs on American Idiot can you even say were blatantly political? Not that politics haven't been a big thing for them, both albums are just as much about personal, humanistic stuff as anything else.

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 09:50 pm / quote |
Msu_Man04 :
toaster_poodle wrote:

Care to point me in the direction of all the political lyrics on every song on this album? Hell, how many songs on American Idiot can you even say were blatantly political? Not that politics haven't been a big thing for them, both albums are just as much about personal, humanistic stuff as anything else.


This.

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 10:27 pm / quote |
fretman5000 :
Lead Zeppelin wrote:

I'm so sick of everybody blaming the Bush Administration for their problems. Green Day has created an album that blames all of their problems on the Bush Administration, and I think that's chicken shit. I'm so ****ing sick of where rock music is going. All these ****ing retarded bands use nothing but power chords to do nothing but talk shit about the country they live in. Our lives are great, and Obama is doing nothing to change the country. Stop whining. AC/DC, Van Halen, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd...what happened to music like that? Music that was inspired by things greater than politics. Rock and roll is about having fun and partying, not about whining about politics. Besides all of that, this album isn't even that good.

hell yeah i totally agree with you


I agree, but rock is about the passion, not partying and gettn wasted and all that crap. It is about having fun tho

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 11:01 pm / quote |
slash4472 :
Know your enemy just downright bored me. I might give a few songs such as Restless Heart Syndrome a try, but after how whiny Billie has become imo I just have a hard time getting myself to listen to them. If you want to know what I mean by whiny, exhibit a) "From Mexico to the Berlin Wall; Homeland security could kill us all." Really? Really? Why don't you join the CIA, or the military and put your life on the line for everyone you care about and try singing those lyrics again with a straight face. Exhibit b ) the bridge part of Holiday when Billie goes into a political rant. That went from a normal song to a angsty pothead rant in two seconds. Honestly I don't think Green Day could write music if society or politics was as they wanted it anymore.
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 11:06 pm / quote |
slash4472 :
Ok let me correct myself here, as far as holiday is concerned, it's not THAT normal as the rest has politically charged lyrics, but to me the song was just fun and I didn't really notice the lyrics. My opinion still stands about it being a song that has a great sound and everything, but the content just is too harsh for the pop punk guitar part.
POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 11:11 pm / quote |
MasterExploder0 :
Why do they have to put out another political album? Obama won so Billie Joe can stop complaining. I really hate it when artists bring their politics into their music, with the exception of Megadeth
POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 12:17 am / quote |
Zacky~Vengeance :
Snap017 wrote:

Before I speak my mind, I must provide this.

(WARNING: THIS COMMENT MAY BE OFFENSIVE TO SUPPORTERS OF GREEN GA-----DAY. ANYONE WITH AN EASILY UPSET MIND OR STOMACH SHOULD DEFINITELY SKIP THIS COMMENT AND CONTINUE LISTENING TO GARBAGE.)

Now, to the beef of what's in my noggin.

For one, anyone who willingly supports this album, or any past GD albums, is either a 12 year old girl or a ragingly bi-curious 13 year old boy.

I mean, aside from the piano parts, the ENTIRE album has NO variety to it. It doesn't matter what "context" the lyrics are in if the rest of the song is ANOTHER REDUNDANT LYRIC. It's the same drivelling, snot-nosed, repetitive, stupid, alternative bullcrap that's been on mainstream radio since forever. Each track sounds the same if not VERY similar to the last one, the guitar is the same few powerchords over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and *GASP* OVER and over and over and over and OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

Evolving musically doesn't matter if the "evolution" was from total bullcrap to COMPLETE AND TOTAL BULLCRAP.

i think we can interpret ur little outburst into "i have no musical background" becuz like mentioned before, metal is VERY repetitive.. pretty sure i listened to Bleed for Me By black label society than a song on Ozzy's Black Rain cd, and guess what? same solo.. same with any metal solo.. lets take a scale, play it fast.. theres our song... if u know nething bout punk, pop-punk w.e. u call green day, its influences are power chords, strummed.. and take a look at ac/dc, same 3 chords for what? 30 years now?
and to whoever said their sick of everyone blaming bush administration.. ummm he just made it so easy for everyone, look at american economy now? u have no real support to not blame him.. and same guy who said bout bush admin, bucssharktooth, u and ur whining bout power chords, again AC/DC POWER CHORDS.. p.s. punk, or pop-punk, is allowed if not associated with political so if u dont like it why do u buy it?

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 12:28 am / quote |
JChrist521 :
i don't know if anyone has noticed or said anything yet but the album artwork kind of reminds me of the "kissing silhouettes" from watchmen (the book that is) for anyone who's read it

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 12:30 am / quote |
MasterExploder0 :
fretman5000 wrote:

fender9442 wrote:

WTF?! Metal is way better then punk!

the this user fails

Metal has no feeling, its all anger. some metal is ok, but punk is better. No question, and punk gets more chicks. lol


btw, lmao since when was punk not angry? Punk has got to be the angriest genre around, metal is just heavy and (the shitty death metal) sounds angry.

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 12:30 am / quote |
metallica2354 :
this album was so boring! it all meshed together, and apart from a couple songs, sounded like one unbelievably long boring song
POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 01:19 am / quote |
JPScralatchtica :
AMAZING!!! way to go Green Day! A step up definitely...very Who-esque
POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 01:28 am / quote |
lao123 :
To anyone wondering what single 2 will be... I'm pretty sures its 21 Guns. The sticker than was on the plastic wrap on the case said featuring Know Your Enemy and 21 Guns... So yeah...
POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 01:53 am / quote |
 
 m 
  :
Checked.

No Obama/Bush/Other politics debates please

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 02:13 am / quote |
Cheesepuff :
Sounds like this should be a movie... like Tommy...
POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 02:46 am / quote |
Lion_Slicer :
"btw, lmao since when was punk not angry? Punk has got to be the angriest genre around, metal is just heavy and (the shitty death metal) sounds angry."

The angriest genre around is Robb Flynn. I've never heard the rage in his voice matched by any punk or death metal band. Also, no more blindly stereotyping metal please. Many of you clearly do not pay attention to what metal is truly about--you don't need to, but don't pretend that you know. Yes, much of it is fueled by anger, but most good bands of any genre are hardly that one-dimensional. Likewise Green Day is (now) fueled primarily by political anger, but there IS diversity if you bother to look for it.

Despite being a metalhead (suck it up), I've actually always liked Green Day, and thought American Idiot was, aside from the title track and a few other turd-bombs, amazing--particularly Letterbomb and Jesus of Suburbia. I haven't heard this whole album yet, but I like it so far, maybe not on the same level though. Lots of attempts at Who-ish grandeur... I'll have to let it sink in for more than a day. At the very least, it's a fairly satisfying follow-up.

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 02:48 am / quote |
Serjem :
These are great to sing along to, as well as pretend to play the drums at the same time




I'm buying this on monday for sure.

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 03:01 am / quote |
stjimmy86 :
The wrapping that the cd was in said "Featuring 'Know Your Enemy' and '21 Guns'"....possibly having 21 guns as the next single?

I wouldn't complain.

Static Age, and Viva La Gloria! are my personal favorites

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 04:28 am / quote |
AnimalChiko :
I loved this CD, it's a master piece!
POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 04:55 am / quote |
SG-Burchett :
i'll gibe this album a go b4 buying it. the only 2 songs ive heard have been know your enemy which was boringly repetitive and 21st century breakdown-which would have been a AWESOME song if it had had the pointless piano intro and ending couple of minutes cut off.

just one question though to anyone who has the album-is it better than american idiot and slightly more true to old green day (not totally-but just a bit)?

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 05:05 am / quote |
SG-Burchett :
sorry- 'give' not gibe
question still stands

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 05:05 am / quote |
hairypineapple :
..I'm a massive Green Day fan.. But I was SO disappointed with this..

I want them to stop trying to be the Beatles and the Clash and to start being Green Day again

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 06:06 am / quote |
Instant Mash :
I don't think I've ever read such closed-mindedness as is being put forward by quite a few of you. All you're doing is repeating the tired old typecast that pop punk is crap because it's heavily based around power chords, and teenagers enjoy it.

I thought this was a great album. It shows the band venturing well into new creative territory. And I, for one, believe that this is the best thing they've released in a very long time. Maybe even ever...

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 06:30 am / quote |
Karlsteel :
This is so much like Warning that you're better off listening to that album... Any memorable songs? No.
POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 06:32 am / quote |
God_Knows :
I think that this is album is great,
it is a better, stronger version of american idiot, and dookie was also great, but dookie was way more repetitive than this (though this does have repetition issues). this is what green day is, repeating the same awesome song over and over, don't like? F*ck off.

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 06:40 am / quote |
Instant Mash :
God_Knows wrote:

I think that this is album is great,
it is a better, stronger version of american idiot, and dookie was also great, but dookie was way more repetitive than this (though this does have repetition issues). this is what green day is, repeating the same awesome song over and over, don't like? F*ck off.


+1

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 06:51 am / quote |
Riz_kan :
hmm....i guess american idiot is much more better than this album...little bit dissapointment for billie joe armstrong coz it seems that he lost all his skill in making the song and the lyric in this album...american idiot is much more better,dont you guys agree?
POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 06:54 am / quote |
Notoriousdoc :
It's just a bland version of American Idiot. It's really cheesey too.

Not a fan, and I loved American Idiot.

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 07:15 am / quote |
Greendaypunkit :
Adam124 wrote:

Considering dookie consisted of songs about sitting bored and wanking, i think they have evolved musically FOR THE BETTER.

Don't get me wrong i absolutely love Dookie but people who think it's wrong for a large number of people to like a band because of what they sound like is wrong, really need wake the hell up.
This band will defintely go down as one of the best bands that ever existed.

Flame all you want, these guys didn't get here by scratching their arses, they deserve it, so give them a bloody break.

Thank you SO ****ing much. this is what people don't understand, you've hit the bullseye with taht comment

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 07:21 am / quote |
Greendaypunkit :
AlexBarraclough wrote:

i download the deluxe version on itunes and got 4 bonus tracks. 'A quick one whilst he's still away', 'Another state of mind', 'That's all right' and 'Like a rolling stone'.
Are some of these covers or are they original GD songs?

They are all covers

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 07:22 am / quote |
metal-head666 :
IbanezBassman wrote:

true punx


please please please be joking

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 08:07 am / quote |
Instant Mash :
metal-head666 wrote:

IbanezBassman wrote:

true punx

please please please be joking


Who cares anyway? It's just a label...

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 08:14 am / quote |
nickhall21 :
i gotta admit the album is pretty good but the truth is know your enemy is a bad song. Everything else on this album i enjoy, i was just so dissappointed by the first single.
POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 08:14 am / quote |
Freek666 :
5 words in and already a typo *shakes head*
POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 08:21 am / quote |
blajano :
"While it might not be masterful or musically groundbreaking as Nirvana..."


Our lives are great, and Obama is doing nothing to change the country. Stop whining. AC/DC, Van Halen, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd...what happened to music like that?

Haha, some people need to get the **** over themselves. I'm sure most of you were in your nappies when Dookie was released, nor didn't know shit about music when Warning came out, nor lived when any of those 'classic' songs really had something to do with what was happening back then. So all you do is just talk shit like this. Nirvana? pfft come on. ACDC? mhmm, yeah badass riffs and stuff, but other than that? nah. You guys should just stick to your ****in era, seriously, this is awful.

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 08:51 am / quote |
RokkGuitarist50 :
uhhh if you guys are gonna whine about how much you hate green day dont comment. if you want to say something about the album, then thats not a problem.

WHOO! i cant wait to get it!

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 09:21 am / quote |
Hp312 :
I'm guessing this is the time of the year where everyone comes out to hate Green Day cause it's easy. Jeez the album was definatly a step up for them, trying something new like a rock opera is a really cool idea for a punk band, and lay off the "AC/DC VAN HALEN NIRVANA" etc, I strongly doubt Green Day where trying to be any of those while writing this.

In short: Too easy to hate Green Day- Grow Up.

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 09:32 am / quote |
nick_kcin :
true punx

aye? how?

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 10:49 am / quote |
Goblumich07 :
Hp312 wrote:

I'm guessing this is the time of the year where everyone comes out to hate Green Day cause it's easy. Jeez the album was definatly a step up for them, trying something new like a rock opera is a really cool idea for a punk band, and lay off the "AC/DC VAN HALEN NIRVANA" etc, I strongly doubt Green Day where trying to be any of those while writing this.

In short: Too easy to hate Green Day- Grow Up.

+1

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 10:59 am / quote |
dwmacfar2 :
I personally really enjoyed this album. You can hear the punk backround in some of the songs, but they also went in a new direction, which I think is good for a band to do. I hate how closed minded people are sometimes, saying a band has sold out because they've changed style. Or some other bs along those lines, they're trying something different, deal with it. I love their old stuff, but this alt-punk type of cd is a cool new direction too...
POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 11:15 am / quote |
Shard Heilia :
Metallidethium wrote:

Shard Heilia. your review is...bad. you don't offer much to back up any of your claims, especially that the lyrics are bad. you took two sets of lyrics out of the context they are originally in and set them off on their own, of course they are going to look out of place and not well written. However a very good review by the UG team and a very good album to date. I'm impressed


You see, what amuses me is the fact that the ratings are high on everyone who LIKED the album, and on the one review that didn't.....

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 11:15 am / quote |
dwmacfar2 :
Shard Heilia wrote:

Metallidethium wrote:

Shard Heilia. your review is...bad. you don't offer much to back up any of your claims, especially that the lyrics are bad. you took two sets of lyrics out of the context they are originally in and set them off on their own, of course they are going to look out of place and not well written. However a very good review by the UG team and a very good album to date. I'm impressed

You see, what amuses me is the fact that the ratings are high on everyone who LIKED the album, and on the one review that didn't.....
Well he's saying it's a bad review because you didn't really back up many of your claims. You just threw lyrics out of text up there to make your claims look true. You may not like the album, but what he's saying is you should show me reasoning to why it wasn't good.

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 11:40 am / quote |
Shard Heilia :
It wasn't good because it's repetitive, bland, and the politics were being overplayed for popularity rather than working towards making good songs.

This is the weakest part of the album in my opinion. The lyrics seemed...just plain stupid at some points.

Notice the "In my opinion" leading off the section.

One such example of dull, repetitive lyrics.

All in all, it seems like they're milking the politics a little more than I'd like. Billie Joe's vocals are as strong as ever, but his lyrics left a little to be desired. // 5

Followed by my explanation of my opinions.

You're just butthurt because I didn't like the album.


POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 11:58 am / quote |
xcmasta91 :
this was one awesome album i actually think musically it is their best album MUCH better than american idiot
POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 12:01 pm / quote |
ajunderhill :
i really like the old green day
but honestly i like the new "eye liner" green day too
its just different, they arent the same band but i still really like their music, either way

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 12:19 pm / quote |
conroy91 :
I'm sorry to say but i may be the only person here that didnt enjoy this.
I am sick of concept albums, they drive me insane now.
"too much of a good thing" comes to mind.
I bought this hoping that Green Day would bring back they're old style.
The only song i connected to was "murder city" which is one song on the album i felt even touched old green days feel.
I'm still a Huge fan, im still seeing them live on july 14th but i won't be spinning this record for long.

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 12:25 pm / quote |
strid_29 :
21 GUNS IS A COPY OF DAVID BOWIE'S ALL THE YOUNG DUDES, WHY HAS NO ONE NOTICED THIS????
ITS STILL AN ACE SONG THO....

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 12:41 pm / quote |
MilesofBanks :
strid_29 :
21 GUNS IS A COPY OF DAVID BOWIE'S ALL THE YOUNG DUDES, WHY HAS NO ONE NOTICED THIS????
ITS STILL AN ACE SONG THO....

That comment actually made me head on over to Playlist to see if you were telling the truth.
Which of course, I was not surprised to find out you weren't.
But it's not a copy. The songs sound similar, and all that says, is that Green Day is influenced by awesome musicians like David Bowie.
So before you go making untruthful statements, I'd recommend actually listening to the songs.

Oh and thanks for telling every one three times. Very mature.

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 12:57 pm / quote |
mynamesbetter :
IT SAYS 'GREEN DA' NOT 'GREEN DAY'!!
POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 01:19 pm / quote |
LittleSam14 :
hey.

I just brought the album earlier, andwhen i got back, i listened to it all the way through, and loved it.

While admitting some of the songs are better then others (as with any other album) this gave me a smile on almost every single song. Maybe because i'm excited to hear some new material, but ether way, i smiled.

I certainly recognised some of the styles it was done in. For example, at the end of 21st Century Breakdown i'm SURE I heard a touch of Queen.

This one is less punk from green day, more pop-punk, rock. And if you say there is no different inthose 3, there is in my mind, no dout.

I've only had the album now for about 3 hours, so my opinion might be pretty biased, but this is how I felt after listening to it all the way through, for the first time.

8.5/9 out of 10 for me. It could have been a bit more punky, but i love the album the way it is. It really made me wonna explore different bands and diffreent genres. It isn't like any other Green Day album.

Thanks.

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 01:19 pm / quote |
LittleSam14 :
and also,

this album (in my opinion) waas WAY better then american idiot.

and is it just me, or is part B of American Eulogy (Modern World) sand by a different dude. I thought it was Mike for a momenet, buti don't think he has that kinda boice??? I dno.

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 01:28 pm / quote |
LittleSam14 :
LittleSam14 wrote:

and also,

this album (in my opinion) waas WAY better then american idiot.

and is it just me, or is part B of American Eulogy (Modern World) sand by a different dude. I thought it was Mike for a momenet, buti don't think he has that kinda boice??? I dno.


...sand... *sang

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 01:29 pm / quote |
Msu_Man04 :
iplayguitar666 wrote:

if you wanna hear a real "rock opera" or "concept album" listen to mastodons newest release. Green days rock operas are a joke, listening to the songs you wouldn't know there was a connection between them without them telling you there was... and its just the exact same chords theyve been playing for 20 years now. all their doing now is playing longer versions of songs that all have sounded the same, recycled garbage.


Actually, every band has been playing the same chords for the past hundred years.

There are only so many chords, you know...

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 01:30 pm / quote |
Msu_Man04 :
LittleSam14 wrote:

and also,

this album (in my opinion) waas WAY better then american idiot.

and is it just me, or is part B of American Eulogy (Modern World) sand by a different dude. I thought it was Mike for a momenet, buti don't think he has that kinda boice??? I dno.


Yes, it's Mike. It's been said time and time again.

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 01:34 pm / quote |
murdoc66 :
21 guns is just holiday slowed down
POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 01:34 pm / quote |
murdoc66 :
fender9442 wrote:

WTF?! Metal is way better then punk!

the this user fails


you mean "this user fails"

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 01:37 pm / quote |
waitingtohappen :
90% of this record is unimaginative, repetitive, and just plain boring.

musically it's alright, lyrically it's absolutely hideous. an 'american idiot' clone, only worse.

imo, they've made it very hard to relate to their music now.

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 01:44 pm / quote |
St-Pierre :
BassGuitar Hero wrote:

I don't like it. After Green Day started to become political their music started to decline. Becoming politcal is a good thing for a band because it says they are thinking about more than themselves, but when your music gets worse it isn't good.


would you prefer them to continue singing about Masturbation? They are singing about something important and they should feel proud. I think they're music has never been better. The composure of the album and it's various sounds is probably why i've listened to the album 7 times now. A breakthrough album from start to finish in my opinion.

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 01:56 pm / quote |
vv-A7X-vv :
This album sounds pretty good. Thumbs up 4 u guys!
POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 02:02 pm / quote |
Nirvanarien :
mattiwillohouse wrote:

the title track is my favourite. I'll always love Green Day, and no matter what they turn thier hand to I'll give it a chance. If they sound pretentious big deal, they make great music and are always trying something different, which is more than I can say for Metallica, Triv, Bodom etc with thier MASSIVELY over-used metal gallop. Go Green Day, you still rock guys )


Uhm no... those bands you name are more talented musicians then green day, tho you might like Green Day better.... I dont like Green Day for one bit so yes im a hater. and i wasnt going to post here till is saw you BS comment... But hey your just a Green Day fanboy and im just a Green Day hater so wel never aggree on this

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 02:02 pm / quote |
Harvey_Danger :
Nirvanarien wrote:

mattiwillohouse wrote:

the title track is my favourite. I'll always love Green Day, and no matter what they turn thier hand to I'll give it a chance. If they sound pretentious big deal, they make great music and are always trying something different, which is more than I can say for Metallica, Triv, Bodom etc with thier MASSIVELY over-used metal gallop. Go Green Day, you still rock guys )

Uhm no... those bands you name are more talented musicians then green day, tho you might like Green Day better.... I dont like Green Day for one bit so yes im a hater. and i wasnt going to post here till is saw you BS comment... But hey your just a Green Day fanboy and im just a Green Day hater so wel never aggree on this


Trivium has evolved a fair but, but seriously, Metallica and COB have been doing the same shit for years. I love metal and I can't defend them.

I want to pick up this CD, but I'm uneasy about another rock opera.

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 02:13 pm / quote |
Mr Brownst0ne :
IbanezBassman wrote:

true punx


ehhhhh no.

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 02:25 pm / quote |
Harvey_Danger :
slash4472 wrote:

Know your enemy just downright bored me. I might give a few songs such as Restless Heart Syndrome a try, but after how whiny Billie has become imo I just have a hard time getting myself to listen to them. If you want to know what I mean by whiny, exhibit a) "From Mexico to the Berlin Wall; Homeland security could kill us all." Really? Really? Why don't you join the CIA, or the military and put your life on the line for everyone you care about and try singing those lyrics again with a straight face.


What does the Dept. of Homeland Security have to do with the CIA or any branch of the military? It's a perfectly valid lyric, and I have a couple of friends in the military that would agree with such a statement.

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 02:26 pm / quote |
TasianSensation :
murdoc66 wrote:

21 guns is just holiday slowed down


and with a different melody....

plenty of songs use the same chords and same progressions man. I-V-vi-IV has been used by hundreds of bands in thousands of songs, sped up and slowed down! By the way, I'm not saying that that is the progression used in the song, just an example of a progression that has been used multiple times.

The CD is not really a rock opera. There are a few songs that tie together, but it's mainly just a collection of songs, dealing with specific topics divided into acts.

This is probably their most "punk" outing yet lyric-wise, as Dookie, Kerplunk, and Insomniac were all pop-punk.

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 02:27 pm / quote |
Harvey_Danger :
Mr Brownst0ne wrote:

IbanezBassman wrote:

true punx

ehhhhh no.


It's debatable. What punk was and what punk is are two different things. It's the same as what American political parties used to stand for and what they began to stand for after JFK.

Just sayin'.

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 02:29 pm / quote |
Nazo64 :
these guys are almost 40 now.
you can't expect them to write stuff like dookie about masturbation and dope, they're not interested in that kind of stuff anymore. personally, I think this album is one of their best yet

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 02:36 pm / quote |
bigblackbus :
Mr Brownst0ne wrote:

IbanezBassman wrote:

true punx

ehhhhh no.

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 03:03 pm / quote |
mcshane90 :
kgesme21 wrote:

AlexBarraclough wrote:

i download the deluxe version on itunes and got 4 bonus tracks. 'A quick one whilst he's still away', 'Another state of mind', 'That's all right' and 'Like a rolling stone'.
Are some of these covers or are they original GD songs?

They're all covers if I remember correctly.
Also, amazing album! Will definitly be getting heavy rotation in my player.


that guy thinks "like a rolling stone" is a green day song? what an idiot.

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 03:06 pm / quote |
libertines4ever :
SG-Burchett wrote:
just one question though to anyone who has the album-is it better than american idiot and slightly more true to old green day (not totally-but just a bit)?


it's got touches of nimrod in some songs
and the solos seem to be bit different from american idiot the music isn't a straight forward american idiot copy

but I haven't listened to all of the songs yet

btw in Berlin on friday when they played AI Billie Joe sang " so this is a call to barack obama, to end the age of paranoia"

hope they don't get too political on their next album otherwise it'll be a difficult listen
something like warning would be nice it's way underrated I think

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 04:11 pm / quote |
LP.Reissue :
I like the album, because the music is so great!
But you ****ing Americans know nothing about Punk...sorry guys!
Green Day also knows nothing. They have the American way of thinking what punk is! Like all of the wannabe punks. You should ****in come to Europe...

btw.: Obama is the same ******* like bush

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 04:18 pm / quote |
Fritz621 :
LP.Reissue wrote:

I like the album, because the music is so great!
But you ****ing Americans know nothing about Punk...sorry guys!
Green Day also knows nothing. They have the American way of thinking what punk is! Like all of the wannabe punks. You should ****in come to Europe...

btw.: Obama is the same ***** like bush

as american as i am.... +1

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 04:29 pm / quote |
purerock :
I'm really digging peacemaker, it's got this cool western vibe, and the breakdown/solo section just sounds so epic.
POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 04:50 pm / quote |
FenderBender10 :
I really can't stand all the negative comments. It just goes to show how godless a nation we have become. ...At least the nation of good music lovers. The album rocks, great job guys.
POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 05:06 pm / quote |
LP.Reissue :
I really can't stand all the negative comments. It just goes to show how godless a nation we have become. ...At least the nation of good music lovers. The album rocks, great job guys.


yeah but the problem is that Green Day is only interested in what's wrong in their own country. They should care about bigger problems...
They would have so much influence to the humans!!!

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 05:13 pm / quote |
in2thesun88 :
I really like this album. I still think American Idiot was much better though. So far my favorites are "21st Century Breakdown" "Last Night On Earth" and "21 Guns". I don't think there is a stand out track on this album though, definitely more story oriented, instead of an album that has one or two songs that are bound to be big hits. One thing I noticed was that "Viva La Gloria!" has the same exact riff as "Letterbomb", from American Idiot, in it.
POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 05:25 pm / quote |
ouvrotpoep :
all the lyrics sound so cliche: "I just want to see the light / I don't want to lose my sight" haha very profound
POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 06:22 pm / quote |
maJ estY :
Harvey_Danger wrote:

Nirvanarien wrote:

mattiwillohouse wrote:

the title track is my favourite. I'll always love Green Day, and no matter what they turn thier hand to I'll give it a chance. If they sound pretentious big deal, they make great music and are always trying something different, which is more than I can say for Metallica, Triv, Bodom etc with thier MASSIVELY over-used metal gallop. Go Green Day, you still rock guys )

Uhm no... those bands you name are more talented musicians then green day, tho you might like Green Day better.... I dont like Green Day for one bit so yes im a hater. and i wasnt going to post here till is saw you BS comment... But hey your just a Green Day fanboy and im just a Green Day hater so wel never aggree on this

Trivium has evolved a fair but, but seriously, Metallica and COB have been doing the same shit for years. I love metal and I can't defend them.

I want to pick up this CD, but I'm uneasy about another rock opera.


What?! Metallica has been doing the same shit for years? I mean, come on, you must be joking. During the 80's they had four thrash albums, yes, but then after that they're all over the place. Since then they've been pop/metal, grunge/southern metal, nu metal, and they even played with a symphony orchestra. How the hell does that classify as doing the same shit for years?

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 06:36 pm / quote |
toaster_poodle :
FUN FACT: All the Young Dudes was original by Mott the Hoople, not David Bowie
POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 07:06 pm / quote |
tai1221 :
Anyone else think restless heart syndrome sounds like "while my guitar gently weeps"? The live version anyway, at the hall of fame ceremony in honor of george. Also, 21st century's intro sounds like the who, its cool they incorporated more classic rock. Great album.
POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 07:09 pm / quote |
DFX11 :
tai1221 wrote:

Anyone else think restless heart syndrome sounds like "while my guitar gently weeps"? The live version anyway, at the hall of fame ceremony in honor of george. Also, 21st century's intro sounds like the who, its cool they incorporated more classic rock. Great album.

brain stew is the same as while my guitar gently weeps too

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 07:40 pm / quote |
BlitzkriegAir :
lol @ the comment that Metallica has always sounded the same
POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 07:42 pm / quote |
toaster_poodle :
DFX11 wrote:

tai1221 wrote:

Anyone else think restless heart syndrome sounds like "while my guitar gently weeps"? The live version anyway, at the hall of fame ceremony in honor of george. Also, 21st century's intro sounds like the who, its cool they incorporated more classic rock. Great album.
brain stew is the same as while my guitar gently weeps too


Yeah, exactly. With those chord changes you can tell someone that song IS the Beatles and no one would know the difference. Plagiarizing bastards.


POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 07:45 pm / quote |
toaster_poodle :
^that was directed at the brain stew comment
POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 07:46 pm / quote |
Savage Animal :
Last Night on Earth is a total ripoff of John Lennon's 'Isolation'
POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 07:47 pm / quote |
Savage Animal :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZzXg0qYoAo
POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 07:48 pm / quote |
RUSTDOGG666 :
I got the album and I actually like it. Its alot like american idiot but it aint bad. I'd give it a good review too.
POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 08:13 pm / quote |
EGNB4 :
I want to go to that concert ...
POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 08:48 pm / quote |
radio_rebellion :
toaster_poodle wrote:
Yeah, exactly. With those chord changes you can tell someone that song IS the Beatles and no one would know the difference. Plagiarizing bastards.

If someone can't tell the Beatles from Green Day then they are mentally deficient, no matter what the chords are. And sometimes the same chord progression gets used by different musicians. Deal with it. AC/DC doesn't sling plagarizm lawsuits at every newcomer who plays A, D, and G.

...Oasis does.

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 08:55 pm / quote |
billyf93 :
i have 2 greenday albums, dookie and 21st century breakdown, i think dookie is a great punk album, where as 21st century breakdown is well, apart from know your enemy, shit. its all soft singing, acoustic, piano, i dont want that, i want billies dookie voice and not this soft voice. so yeah IMO this album is one of the worst albums i own.
POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 09:00 pm / quote |
radio_rebellion :
Sorry. Missed the sarcasm.
POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 09:06 pm / quote |
StewieSwan :
Yeah Green Da!
POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 10:06 pm / quote |
napalm890 :
uncleSam1 wrote:

Green Day has gone from watered down punk to watered down pop.


it was never punk man...pop-punk mabey, two very different things

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 10:20 pm / quote |
EpsilonJSTC :
@ Shard Helia

Your comment about lyric repetition seems misguided, they wouldn't repeat lyrics just because they can't think of anything else to say. Rather, they, as well as any other artist, repeat lyrics to drive a point, as opposed to a lack of creativity.

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 10:42 pm / quote |
guitarfreak222 :
They've completley taken Main Offender by The Hives! A phony punk band stealing something from a real punk band... How ironic.
POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 12:13 am / quote |
Metallidethium :
dwmacfar2 :
Shard Heilia wrote:

Metallidethium wrote:

Shard Heilia. your review is...bad. you don't offer much to back up any of your claims, especially that the lyrics are bad. you took two sets of lyrics out of the context they are originally in and set them off on their own, of course they are going to look out of place and not well written. However a very good review by the UG team and a very good album to date. I'm impressed

You see, what amuses me is the fact that the ratings are high on everyone who LIKED the album, and on the one review that didn't.....
Well he's saying it's a bad review because you didn't really back up many of your claims. You just threw lyrics out of text up there to make your claims look true. You may not like the album, but what he's saying is you should show me reasoning to why it wasn't good.


Thank you for understanding what I meant. I personally thought the album was well written lyrically, musically, and vocally.

POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 12:51 am / quote |
XAkitAX :
POST BUSH WORLD? LMAO
armstrong, would you please get an education on politics before you try to write music about it, thanks.
green day used to be cool, till they went mainstream..

POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 01:01 am / quote |
 
 m 
  :
Checked again.

Please don't bold/underline your entire post.

POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 01:21 am / quote |
Metallidethium :
XAkitAX :
POST BUSH WORLD? LMAO
armstrong, would you please get an education on politics before you try to write music about it, thanks.
green day used to be cool, till they went mainstream..


they went "mainstream" in freaking 1994. how many times can we accuse a band of selling out? grow up people

POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 01:34 am / quote |
ken20008 :
Unskathed wrote:

LP.Reissue wrote:

[quotejust bought it, fan bloody tastic, just as good as anything else they have.
green day are the greatest band on the planet by a wide margin, and before any pathetic metalhead calls me a pussy, I DON'T CARE! k thx by]

btw...i hate metalheads xD


I'm sorry.[/quote]
im a metalhead and i love green day, shut up and stop stereotyping.

POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 01:52 am / quote |
purerock :
toaster_poodle wrote:

FUN FACT: All the Young Dudes was original by Mott the Hoople, not David Bowie


actually David Bowie wrote it, Mott the Hooptie first popularized it.

and I heard it too, in fact I had noticed the similarity and then found on here that others had heard the same thing. there are actually a lot of similarities to be found to other songs on the album. not sure if anything is close enough to be plagiarized, but I was definitely getting the flavors of other songs while listening to the album.

POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 02:29 am / quote |
Martin259 :
"Five years after Green Da"

Green Da? God damn, get a spell checker.

POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 03:58 am / quote |
RockGuitar92 :
I honestly hate this album. American Idiot was better and the ones before it were extremely better.
POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 04:30 am / quote |
AA00P :
Shard Heilia wrote:

It wasn't good because it's repetitive, bland, and the politics were being overplayed for popularity rather than working towards making good songs.

This is the weakest part of the album in my opinion. The lyrics seemed...just plain stupid at some points.

Notice the "In my opinion" leading off the section.

One such example of dull, repetitive lyrics.

All in all, it seems like they're milking the politics a little more than I'd like. Billie Joe's vocals are as strong as ever, but his lyrics left a little to be desired. // 5

Followed by my explanation of my opinions.

You're just butthurt because I didn't like the album.


Seriously, your review seems pretty fair.
"ZOMGZ A REVIEW THAT ISN'T COMPLETELY POSITIVE TOWARDS MY FAVORITE BAND OH NOES!!!"
So far I've only heard Know Your Enemy, and it's boring, repetitive, and weak. The political theme is drawn out and boring, especially when the angle with which they approach the subject is shallow at best. Granted, I'll listen to the rest of the album with an open mind, since I like the band and have thoroughly enjoyed all their albums so far (both Dookie AND American Idiot). That said, they're not infallible.


POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 04:36 am / quote |
ytse Jammer :
Jau_Peacecraft wrote:

"Green Day ventures into the world of rock operas with 21st Century Breakdown, a scrutinizing look at the post-Bush world.."

Scrutinizing? Yeah, maybe if you shop @ hot topic & think that the voices in your head are other people.

I'm sorry, but Green Day is not nearly as important as many others make them out to be, which sometimes borderlines on The Clash worship (this applies to Rancid too).

The single is atrocious. To be fair to everyone who will disagree with me, though, I intend on listening to the album for the purpose of backing up my low score (which would be a .5, where .5 is only given simply because Green Day actually bothered to go into a recording studio, which helps keep people in the studio business employed in this turbulent economy & enables them to record better music from better bands without worrying about the bills. Thanks Green Day.)

If you want something that actually scrutinizes the "post-Bush" world, pick up Bad Religion's "New Maps of Hell" & pat yourself on the back. The final step would be using google & your own imagination, or actually talking to real people offline & socially-interacting in discussions about music that bothers to be more than market-punk pandering nonsense that is summed up by 21st Century's Breakdown's album cover that uncleverly hints (with the grace of sledgehammer) at "legends" (I guess shooting heroin & playing shit music is still referred to as instant fame) sid & nancy. What's next, a bloody shotgun next to an out of tune guitar?

fyi, sputnikmusic lies less; I'll go before someone bans my dissent from the UG attention span.


You speak the pure, untainted truth.

POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 05:29 am / quote |
MetFan10 :
I like how everyone comes on here and their like "Green Day sucks, (Insert Band Here) is better!"

It's funny how some sit there in there Mom's basement sipping on a Mountain Dew, inhaling Cheeto dust, and bitching about how much they hate GD, while Billie Joe and gang are out there standing up there on stage in front of a soldout crowd.

If you believe you can do better than 21st Century Breakdown, then pick up an instrument and prove us all wrong.

Wait, you can't prove anyone wrong, because there is no right or wrong. Everyone has their own opinion and can listen to any music they see fit.

Finally, you accuse them of selling out when the truth is that if you were offered millions of dollars for a song you wrote, you would shut your god damn mouth and sign that contract. Many will say they wouldn't, because the truth is that they haven't been offered the opprotunity.

It amazing how many people lack the ability to CONSTRUCTIVELY CRITICIZE something. Later.

POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 07:20 am / quote |
pawnluv :
I found it to be kinda cheezy, and very repetitive. No song really stood out for me, they all just kinda blend together
POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 07:45 am / quote |
Instant Mash :
MetFan10 wrote:

I like how everyone comes on here and their like "Green Day sucks, (Insert Band Here) is better!"

It's funny how some sit there in there Mom's basement sipping on a Mountain Dew, inhaling Cheeto dust, and bitching about how much they hate GD, while Billie Joe and gang are out there standing up there on stage in front of a soldout crowd.

If you believe you can do better than 21st Century Breakdown, then pick up an instrument and prove us all wrong.

Wait, you can't prove anyone wrong, because there is no right or wrong. Everyone has their own opinion and can listen to any music they see fit.

Finally, you accuse them of selling out when the truth is that if you were offered millions of dollars for a song you wrote, you would shut your god damn mouth and sign that contract. Many will say they wouldn't, because the truth is that they haven't been offered the opprotunity.

It amazing how many people lack the ability to CONSTRUCTIVELY CRITICIZE something. Later.


I think that's the smartest thing I've seen in this thread haha.

+200

POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 08:07 am / quote |
captainperoxide :
They're a punk band because they make whatever ****ing music they want to.

They don't make punk music. I wish some of you would get that through your thick heads.

POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 08:50 am / quote |
[x]Huffy[x] :
I'm not a fan of new Green Day. I don't need three middle-aged men to tell me what the world is like. I'll stick with Dookie, thanks.
POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 09:02 am / quote |
SoundOfDeity :
Greenday are a marmite band for alot of people
you either love them or hate them
but if you want to listen to real political music
Rage against the Machine are the band for you
Besides, they're ten times the band greenday could ever be.
Not a fan of the new stuff, thats for sure.

POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 09:07 am / quote |
Nirvanarien :
maJ estY wrote:

Harvey_Danger wrote:

Nirvanarien wrote:

mattiwillohouse wrote:

the title track is my favourite. I'll always love Green Day, and no matter what they turn thier hand to I'll give it a chance. If they sound pretentious big deal, they make great music and are always trying something different, which is more than I can say for Metallica, Triv, Bodom etc with thier MASSIVELY over-used metal gallop. Go Green Day, you still rock guys )

Uhm no... those bands you name are more talented musicians then green day, tho you might like Green Day better.... I dont like Green Day for one bit so yes im a hater. and i wasnt going to post here till is saw you BS comment... But hey your just a Green Day fanboy and im just a Green Day hater so wel never aggree on this

Trivium has evolved a fair but, but seriously, Metallica and COB have been doing the same shit for years. I love metal and I can't defend them.

I want to pick up this CD, but I'm uneasy about another rock opera.

What?! Metallica has been doing the same shit for years? I mean, come on, you must be joking. During the 80's they had four thrash albums, yes, but then after that they're all over the place. Since then they've been pop/metal, grunge/southern metal, nu metal, and they even played with a symphony orchestra. How the hell does that classify as doing the same shit for years?


Mu point exactley, also CoB did quite some diffrent stuff aswell, first album was more Neo-Classical Follow the Reaper Power Metal than with AYDY they had a more simple form and with BLooddrunk its more Thrashy.... Also even if they didn't evolve Metallica and CoB still have superior guitar skills, i dont think the guitarist from Green Day can do as much as tapping and sweeping (even tho those 2 are pretty common)

POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 09:10 am / quote |
Diamondrag :
I watched there one night stand on 4music it was really good although the drummers kit has changed. Still brilliant
POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 11:30 am / quote |
 
 m 
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Checked.

Yet to check out this album, but I will soon.

POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 11:33 am / quote |
bmxsulli :
im sorry but i cant take greenday seriously.
i liked them before the dookie era. when their songs were about whackin off and just hangin out, tryin to have a good time.
all this trying to become a serious band with political lyrics, dying their hiar black, wearing black, almost dressing emo but somehow ppl still see them as punk rockers; it doesnt work for me.

what happened to the band that i used to love that started a mud throwing war at woodstock. suddenly they wear eye shadow and sing depressing songs.

wtf.

POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 11:45 am / quote |
BLOODWORMbass :
trash
POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 11:59 am / quote |
NemX162 :
It wasn't that good...Some of the songs felt like they were going somewhere interesting, then they just kind of slumped off. Loads of repetitive choruses and the lyrics are pretty weak at points.
POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 12:09 pm / quote |
Msu_Man04 :
Amazing album.
POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 12:16 pm / quote |
Msu_Man04 :
toaster_poodle wrote:

DFX11 wrote:

tai1221 wrote:

Anyone else think restless heart syndrome sounds like "while my guitar gently weeps"? The live version anyway, at the hall of fame ceremony in honor of george. Also, 21st century's intro sounds like the who, its cool they incorporated more classic rock. Great album.
brain stew is the same as while my guitar gently weeps too

Yeah, exactly. With those chord changes you can tell someone that song IS the Beatles and no one would know the difference. Plagiarizing bastards.



God FORBID that two different artists would use the same chord progression in a song. Oh no! Quickly, get your pitchforks and torches...!

POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 12:30 pm / quote |
Fjan :
its a great album
POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 01:05 pm / quote |
LesPaulJR361 :
JayLacelle wrote:

Bair wrote:

i like American Eulogy because we get to hear Mike sing for the first time that I know of

he sang on homecoming...


actuaaly that was tre

POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 01:14 pm / quote |
Joeval :
Must say, I was pleasantly suprised when I heard the album. Much better than I expected.
POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 01:28 pm / quote |
Msu_Man04 :
LesPaulJR361 wrote:

JayLacelle wrote:

Bair wrote:

i like American Eulogy because we get to hear Mike sing for the first time that I know of

he sang on homecoming...

actuaaly that was tre


*Sigh*

For the last time...

On Homecoming, Mike AND Tre sang. Mike sang "Nobody Likes You" and Tre sang "Rock 'N' Roll Girlfriend"

POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 01:29 pm / quote |
Tapping_Ninja :
user_nameless wrote:

Tapping_Ninja wrote:

All I have to say is this album isn't bad, not the best they've put out (but I've only listen to half of it so Its too hard to tell)Snap017 wrote:

Before I speak my mind, I must provide this.

(WARNING: THIS COMMENT MAY BE OFFENSIVE TO SUPPORTERS OF GREEN GA-----DAY. ANYONE WITH AN EASILY UPSET MIND OR STOMACH SHOULD DEFINITELY SKIP THIS COMMENT AND CONTINUE LISTENING TO GARBAGE.)

Now, to the beef of what's in my noggin.

For one, anyone who willingly supports this album, or any past GD albums, is either a 12 year old girl or a ragingly bi-curious 13 year old boy.

I mean, aside from the piano parts, the ENTIRE album has NO variety to it. It doesn't matter what "context" the lyrics are in if the rest of the song is ANOTHER REDUNDANT LYRIC. It's the same drivelling, snot-nosed, repetitive, stupid, alternative bullcrap that's been on mainstream radio since forever. Each track sounds the same if not VERY similar to the last one, the guitar is the same few powerchords over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and *GASP* OVER and over and over and over and OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

Evolving musically doesn't matter if the "evolution" was from total bullcrap to COMPLETE AND TOTAL BULLCRAP.

Any band branded by a genre is not going to have much of variety too it... Take ****ing metal for example, bands like necrophagist, White Chapel, Suicide Silence, Dragonforce, or just about any other deathcore band... All their songs are written in the same manner... that's what makes up the bands sound. if you don't like the band don't comment your just being negative for no reason...

No offence, Dragonforce = not Deathcore.

Necrophagist = not Deathcore.

No offence, but maybe you should actually know the genre you're trying to insult.


I was pointing out metal bands...

I know they're not deathcore, i was just commenting that lots of deathcore bands right in the same repetative manner. I'm sorry if I confused you.

POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 01:44 pm / quote |
A-440 :
bmxsulli wrote:

im sorry but i cant take greenday seriously.
i liked them before the dookie era. when their songs were about whackin off and just hangin out, tryin to have a good time.
all this trying to become a serious band with political lyrics, dying their hiar black, wearing black, almost dressing emo but somehow ppl still see them as punk rockers; it doesnt work for me.

what happened to the band that i used to love that started a mud throwing war at woodstock. suddenly they wear eye shadow and sing depressing songs.

wtf.


lmao he was wearing a black shirt with a red tie at woodstock. and the song about "whackin off"? yeah, that WAS dookie era.

POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 01:47 pm / quote |
Adam124 :
i have 2 greenday albums, dookie and 21st century breakdown, i think dookie is a great punk album, where as 21st century breakdown is well, apart from know your enemy, shit. its all soft singing, acoustic, piano, i dont want that, i want billies dookie voice and not this soft voice. so yeah IMO this album is one of the worst albums i own.

hahahhahaha how in the HELL can that be a valid statement when you have 2 ****ing greenday albums?
You must of been frozen for years or something, they have evolved into the band that they are today.
Cut a long story short, you are an absolute douche and don't deserve to listen to music.

POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 02:32 pm / quote |
beanyboy :
to be honest, I thoroughly enjoyed this album, but I thought American idiot was a lot better
POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 03:29 pm / quote |
TSngRemainTSame :
Cheesepuff wrote:

Sounds like this should be a movie... like Tommy...

WTF you can NEVER compare Green Day to The Who, especially Tommy.

POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 03:48 pm / quote |
TSngRemainTSame :
By the way I have most the Green Day albums. their good but still you can't compare them to The Who.
POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 03:50 pm / quote |
sidewinder2132 :
Wow, I never knew the Green Day was capable of putting out music with such depth. Good for them.
POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 04:05 pm / quote |
hairypineapple :
It's growing on me..

Restless Heart Syndrome is a masterpiece

POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 04:35 pm / quote |
Campbell22 :
didn't like the single... won't buy the album, looking forward to the next QOTSA album... punk IS dead..
POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 05:28 pm / quote |
ZPunk3795 :
Never thought I'd say it, IT"S BETTER THAN AMERICAN IDIOT!!! There's a few songs that I'm not sure of yet (especially Know Your Enemy), but I'll probably warm up to most. It's a great album!!The music is much more complex than ever. Murder City,!Viva La Gloria!,East Jesus Nowhere,Last of the American Girls,and 21 Guns are awesome, but I am absolutely in love with Restless Heart Syndrome. If you are one of the strange people who don't have the album or plan to buy it, you should really consider it.
POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 05:42 pm / quote |
Bishop65 :
This album rocks, it fuses American Idot Greenday, and the older Greenday it rocks. I love the single and most of the new songs rock it is old Greenday. I like it when the song starts slow and then it picks up. Classic Greenday.
POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 06:13 pm / quote |
wildchild6660 :
JayLacelle wrote:

Bair wrote:

i like American Eulogy because we get to hear Mike sing for the first time that I know of

he sang on homecoming...

No he didn't. That was tre. He sang on some other song I can't remember on dookie I think

POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 06:37 pm / quote |
Msu_Man04 :
wildchild6660 wrote:

JayLacelle wrote:

Bair wrote:

i like American Eulogy because we get to hear Mike sing for the first time that I know of

he sang on homecoming...
No he didn't. That was tre. He sang on some other song I can't remember on dookie I think


Jesus Christ you people don't listen and don't just look stuff up. Mike sang "Homecoming: Nobody Likes You" and Tre sang "Homecoming: Rock 'N' Roll Girlfriend."

Who ELSE wants to be enlightened?

POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 06:58 pm / quote |
-core :
I hate Know Your Enemy SOOO much i honestly can see how anyone likes them
I salute anyone who dislikes them

POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 07:09 pm / quote |
rocklee1431 :
the guy keeps saying that they are first venturing into rock operas even though American Idiot was a rock opera...
POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 07:34 pm / quote |
Msu_Man04 :
-core wrote:

I hate Know Your Enemy SOOO much i honestly can see how anyone likes them
I salute anyone who dislikes them


Wow. You hate one song, and as such can not possibly imagine someone liking them.

POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 07:41 pm / quote |
Jimmypagewanabe :
Idk I honestly can say that 21st Century Breakdown is a let down it just isn't what they used to be and i know they can't write the same stuff over and over again but i just wish they would stay punk instead of going soft im sorry to say but Green Day is selling out and everyone knows it
POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 07:51 pm / quote |
Langerz1991 :
man, kids trying to insult metal is just plain funny, dragonforce...deathcore? wtf
and to whoever who said black label society and ozzy's guitar solo sound the same...thats since zakk wylde plays for both damn bands! lol
just stop sterotyping metal, its just stupid so grow up
as for green day, not my cup of tea =)

POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 08:27 pm / quote |
Instant Mash :
Msu_Man04 wrote:

wildchild6660 wrote:

JayLacelle wrote:

Bair wrote:

i like American Eulogy because we get to hear Mike sing for the first time that I know of

he sang on homecoming...
No he didn't. That was tre. He sang on some other song I can't remember on dookie I think

Jesus Christ you people don't listen and don't just look stuff up. Mike sang "Homecoming: Nobody Likes You" and Tre sang "Homecoming: Rock 'N' Roll Girlfriend."

Who ELSE wants to be enlightened?


Ignorance is bliss. You may as well leave them be...

POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 09:44 pm / quote |
koreanhitokori :
Msu_Man04 wrote:

-core wrote:

I hate Know Your Enemy SOOO much i honestly can see how anyone likes them
I salute anyone who dislikes them

Wow. You hate one song, and as such can not possibly imagine someone liking them.


you win!

POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 09:56 pm / quote |
koreanhitokori :
TasianSensation wrote:

murdoc66 wrote:

21 guns is just holiday slowed down

and with a different melody....

plenty of songs use the same chords and same progressions man. I-V-vi-IV has been used by hundreds of bands in thousands of songs, sped up and slowed down! By the way, I'm not saying that that is the progression used in the song, just an example of a progression that has been used multiple times.

The CD is not really a rock opera. There are a few songs that tie together, but it's mainly just a collection of songs, dealing with specific topics divided into acts.

This is probably their most "punk" outing yet lyric-wise, as Dookie, Kerplunk, and Insomniac were all pop-punk.


this man wins
and for the record
OH WOW! 21 Guns intro sounds like HOLIDAY but doesn't sound the same over all -_-;
grow a brain n actually listen to the song before making half-assed assumptions

POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 10:00 pm / quote |
koreanhitokori :
Campbell22 wrote:

didn't like the single... won't buy the album, looking forward to the next QOTSA album... punk IS dead..


why'd you comment then -_-;;;;;
btw the new green day album is surprisingly better than american idiot IMO as well
It's a lot more fuller and has more variety
I seriously thought it was gonna be shit but I'm glad I was proven wrong

POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 10:02 pm / quote |
Perpetual Burn :
Campbell22 wrote:

didn't like the single... won't buy the album, looking forward to the next QOTSA album... punk IS dead..


Punks not dead...You're dead.

POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 10:11 pm / quote |
BackSeatSuicide :
Gay
POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 10:17 pm / quote |
firsttoknow :
as much as i love the fun, punk sound of dookie, i respect the fact the green day grew up and is now making serious music that still kicks ass.

for all the ignorant, immature guys hating on green day, grow up. green day did, and you will too one day.

POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 10:25 pm / quote |
SG_Player93 :
EMO EMO EMO EMO GAY EMO EMO EMO
POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 10:50 pm / quote |
SG_Player93 :
Msu_Man04 wrote:

wildchild6660 wrote:

JayLacelle wrote:

Bair wrote:

i like American Eulogy because we get to hear Mike sing for the first time that I know of

he sang on homecoming...
No he didn't. That was tre. He sang on some other song I can't remember on dookie I think

Jesus Christ you people don't listen and don't just look stuff up. Mike sang "Homecoming: Nobody Likes You" and Tre sang "Homecoming: Rock 'N' Roll Girlfriend."

Who ELSE wants to be enlightened?

losers

POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 10:54 pm / quote |
tai1221 :
For all of you that can't make a comment about the album without saying: emo, gay, or anything to flame other users shouldn't bother reading the reviews. If you hate green day, and are not going to listen to one or more songs, and be open minded, don't bother reading, or making a comment, its useless. Also, for the guy who said only 12 and 13 yearold girls and bi curious boys listen to green day, I am 20, married to a woman, and green day is one of my favorites. So, it would be nice to see relevant, constructive comments. I hope the mods clean some of this up.
POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 11:22 pm / quote |
necrosis1193 :
tai1221 wrote:
Also, for the guy who said only 12 and 13 yearold girls and bi curious boys listen to green day, I am 20, married to a woman, and green day is one of my favorites. So, it would be nice to see relevant, constructive comments. I hope the mods clean some of this up.


On that same note, I don't recall where, but I read somewhere once that Paul Gilbert's a fan of Punk, Green Day in particularly. Don't quote me, I could've thought of that out of sleep deprivation, but just throwing it out there in case I didn't.

POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 11:40 pm / quote |
thebigal :
I have been a huge GreenDay fan since 1039 smooth. ( yep a long time ago ).
I have loved every album they have released particulay Dookie and American Idiot.

When it comes to there latest realese, i can only say that it is an incredibly bad album. They have severaly crossed that line from punk to downright commercial garbage. ( sold out )

I really dont know what there arngle was.
Surely we want all bands to prgress and show us there different musically creative sides, but this album must leave die hard fans wondering what is this commercial crap.

This will be incredibly hard to rebound from, and most certanly would not recomend this album to anyone.

POSTED: 05/18/2009 - 12:16 am / quote |
Shezad :
Some albums are better than others in every artist.
But jeez, this is so stupid.

All these people who say Green Day sucks now because they're old stuff are better are being ridiculous.

You're just demanding that they do the same damn thing on every album. You're restraining the band from progressing.

Honestly, they're exploring their musical style. Let them.

POSTED: 05/18/2009 - 01:08 am / quote |
Shezad :
Because their old stuff*


POSTED: 05/18/2009 - 01:12 am / quote |
uberphreak :
I loved American Idiot, I thought it was a nice, relatively mature step up from their old albums entirely about smoking pot and doing nothing. I haven't checked this album out yet but I definitely will with all the comparisons being made to American Idiot and the general consensus of "EPIC" that everyone seems to have.

Also, all of you idiots whining about the politics and stuff... if you don't like it, gtfo and go listen to something else.

And to all you idiots generalizing/stereotyping genres (no matter what they are), please stop. You look like a fool. There are exceptions to every rule. There are good bands from every genre out there. And beyond that, it's all subject to personal taste! Please stop with the childishness.

Anyway, yeah. Definitely gotta check this album out.

POSTED: 05/18/2009 - 04:09 am / quote |
uberphreak :
BTW, EVERYONE READ THIS:

"you're" = contraction of the words "you are"
"your" = possessive adjective for the noun "you"

"there" = an adverb indicating a position or location
"their" = possessive adjective in the singular referring to "his or her", and in the plural referring to "them" or "they"
"they're" = contraction of the words "they are"

FOR FUCK'S SAKE THIS IS GRAMMAR SCHOOL MATERIAL. PLEASE LEARN IT.

/rant

POSTED: 05/18/2009 - 04:16 am / quote |
murdoc66 :
The albums got some great songs on it but i was a bit dissapointed, they are reusing some of THEIR old songs.. most obvious were deadbeat holiday and church on a sunday , less obvious where holiday , american idiot and misery. anyone agree? also i was playing 21 guns and i realised it has the exact same chords to 'pieces' by sum 41. also listen to heart of gold by neil young for similarities.
POSTED: 05/18/2009 - 04:33 am / quote |
CarmenPunkGirl :
AMAZING ALBUM!!!
POSTED: 05/18/2009 - 05:06 am / quote |
Johnny Quest :
not too shabby album, but too poppy to be called punk, the production is slick and the sound quality is good. album cover art is an eye catcher as well.
POSTED: 05/18/2009 - 05:14 am / quote |
texzephyr :
one two three four i declare a flame war lol... i guess everyone's entitled to their opinion lol... :p
anyway, i really like this album, ii've listened to it right through about 5 times now, didnt like it much first time thru but i'm finding more good songs every time it seems. i still think the earlier albums were better than Idiot or this, but i my two fave GD songs atm are from these two albums, Homecoming and Viva la Gloria.

POSTED: 05/18/2009 - 07:00 am / quote |
bananajammin :
LP.Reissue wrote:

[quotejust bought it, fan bloody tastic, just as good as anything else they have.
green day are the greatest band on the planet by a wide margin, and before any pathetic metalhead calls me a pussy, I DON'T CARE! k thx by]


btw...i hate metalheads xD[/quote]

"Greatest band on the planet?" You gotta be f***in' kidding me. 90% of their fanbase is angsty teenagers who wouldn't know political fanfare if it took a dump on their bed. Green Day DEFINITELY has gone downhill, both musically and... since when did billy joe lose his testicles and start wearing makeup? Oh yeah when I stopped listening to them

POSTED: 05/18/2009 - 07:58 am / quote |
Stone Agean :
One song [something to do with hand grenades?] is a total rip off of the Hives/Vines. It has almost the exact like from Outtathaway!....
POSTED: 05/18/2009 - 08:24 am / quote |
Bass of Grunge :
I can't believe how some of you are trying to defend selling out by saying they're "maturing."
POSTED: 05/18/2009 - 09:20 am / quote |
BenRaah :
MasterExploder0 wrote:

fretman5000 wrote:

fender9442 wrote:

WTF?! Metal is way better then punk!

the this user fails

Metal has no feeling, its all anger. some metal is ok, but punk is better. No question, and punk gets more chicks. lol

btw, lmao since when was punk not angry? Punk has got to be the angriest genre around, metal is just heavy and (the shitty death metal) sounds angry.


I'm pretty sure anger is a feeling...

POSTED: 05/18/2009 - 09:32 am / quote |
Riz_kan :
one word only from me..I HATE THIS ALBUM AND I LOVE AMERICAN IDIOT!
POSTED: 05/18/2009 - 09:51 am / quote |
Illiad86 :
Ah well, I don't like this album at all. IMHO, they decided to go with the flow and go whiny like everyone else. And not to mention some of the songs have the most unoriginal lyrics.

Seems to be the only thing you hear on the radio, grown men crying like babies singing about how much they want to die because their woman left them or some other crap. Music's not very original anymore...I'm so glad there's the Internet....

POSTED: 05/18/2009 - 10:20 am / quote |
Endless_fight :
Greenday blows. Nuff said
POSTED: 05/18/2009 - 12:08 pm / quote |
slayer98763 :
fattypumbaa wrote:

kgesme21 wrote:

AlexBarraclough wrote:

i download the deluxe version on itunes and got 4 bonus tracks. 'A quick one whilst he's still away', 'Another state of mind', 'That's all right' and 'Like a rolling stone'.
Are some of these covers or are they original GD songs?
They're all covers if I remember correctly.
Also, amazing album! Will definitly be getting heavy rotation in my player.

Really? you don't know? Dylan Elvis the Who. STop listening to Green Day ad go get a lesson on REAL Rock N Roll.


amen

POSTED: 05/18/2009 - 12:12 pm / quote |
waitingtohappen :
hairypineapple wrote:

It's growing on me..

Restless Heart Syndrome is a masterpiece


Restless Heart Syndrome is the worst piece of songwriting I've heard in **** knows how long.

POSTED: 05/18/2009 - 12:20 pm / quote |
alexcarroll15 :
hairypineapple wrote:

..I'm a massive Green Day fan.. But I was SO disappointed with this..

I want them to stop trying to be the Beatles and the Clash and to start being Green Day again


amen to that brother

POSTED: 05/18/2009 - 12:28 pm / quote |
Greendaypunkit :
all I can say is...
THIS ALBUM IS EPIC!!! :P
XD XD XD
well worth the wait

POSTED: 05/18/2009 - 01:30 pm / quote |
leony03 :
Unskathed wrote:

LP.Reissue wrote:

[quotejust bought it, fan bloody tastic, just as good as anything else they have.
green day are the greatest band on the planet by a wide margin, and before any pathetic metalhead calls me a pussy, I DON'T CARE! k thx by]

btw...i hate metalheads xD


I'm sorry.[/quote]

Hey im a metalhead by far but i love green day. So screw you lol. Thsi new album is great

POSTED: 05/18/2009 - 01:39 pm / quote |
afratmdk :
IbanezBassman wrote:

true punx


Absolutely not

POSTED: 05/18/2009 - 03:13 pm / quote |
FinalCon :
My favorite songs have to be American Eulogy and East Jesus Nowhere. 21st Century Breakdown and Viva La Gloria! are growing on me though.
POSTED: 05/18/2009 - 06:14 pm / quote |
FinalCon :
By the way, Green Day isn't a punk band anymore. I'll admit that. The question I have is...

Is that necessarily bad?

POSTED: 05/18/2009 - 06:16 pm / quote |
Msu_Man04 :
FinalCon wrote:

By the way, Green Day isn't a punk band anymore. I'll admit that. The question I have is...

Is that necessarily bad?


I say no.

POSTED: 05/18/2009 - 07:09 pm / quote |
toaster_poodle :
It seems like they've gone beyond any genre type thing. They're definitely not punk, but they definitely aren't not punk either.

And it is a good thing. If you keep the blinders on and the stick up your ass and look at it from a "punx" perspective you won't think so, but if you look at it from the standpoint of rock music in general what they're doing is just awesome. They're bonafide "rock stars" now, and the biggest we've seen in decades.

POSTED: 05/18/2009 - 07:38 pm / quote |
guitar_kid_alex :
this album is amazing.enough said.
POSTED: 05/18/2009 - 07:54 pm / quote |
brad777no :
ChemyVamp wrote:

Quicksand15 wrote:

ridiculously bad record.

you sure have no taste and prefer dookie rite?


Green Day sucks. Its more of a boy band then a punk band. What a bunch of sell outs. BTW REAL punk music like Black Flag, Misfits, Circle Jerks, etc. are a lot better.

POSTED: 05/18/2009 - 08:49 pm / quote |
Tapping_Ninja :
Langerz1991 wrote:

man, kids trying to insult metal is just plain funny, dragonforce...deathcore? wtf
and to whoever who said black label society and ozzy's guitar solo sound the same...thats since zakk wylde plays for both damn bands! lol
just stop sterotyping metal, its just stupid so grow up
as for green day, not my cup of tea =)


Again I wasn't calling Dragonforce a damn deathcore band... For ****s sake... Though they way the write their music they're on the same level...

P
brad777no wrote:

ChemyVamp wrote:

Quicksand15 wrote:

ridiculously bad record.

you sure have no taste and prefer dookie rite?

Green Day sucks. Its more of a boy band then a punk band. What a bunch of sell outs. BTW REAL punk music like Black Flag, Misfits, Circle Jerks, etc. are a lot better.


... They're a pop punk band... why the **** would you compare them to a bunch of hardcore bands... Tha'ts like comparing Iron Maiden to Death. Same Genre diffrent sub genre. Both are great bands, but fans of both might think the other sucks...

POSTED: 05/18/2009 - 10:24 pm / quote |
Jau_Peacecraft :
Tapping_Ninja wrote:

Langerz1991 wrote:

man, kids trying to insult metal is just plain funny, dragonforce...deathcore? wtf
and to whoever who said black label society and ozzy's guitar solo sound the same...thats since zakk wylde plays for both damn bands! lol
just stop sterotyping metal, its just stupid so grow up
as for green day, not my cup of tea =)

Again I wasn't calling Dragonforce a damn deathcore band... For ****s sake... Though they way the write their music they're on the same level...

Pbrad777no wrote:

ChemyVamp wrote:

Quicksand15 wrote:

ridiculously bad record.

you sure have no taste and prefer dookie rite?

Green Day sucks. Its more of a boy band then a punk band. What a bunch of sell outs. BTW REAL punk music like Black Flag, Misfits, Circle Jerks, etc. are a lot better.

... They're a pop punk band... why the **** would you compare them to ...


And yet they are consistently marketed as "punk", based on both the perception of their past albums in their catalog, & on the new use of the term "punk" with the more advertising saturated MTV audience that is the inevitable result of most punk bands that made it big enough at some point to continue making music for money & not just to make ends meet (or to make ends meet with a richer lifestyle & risk losing something in the transition regardless).

If they aren't "punk", then why are they marketed as such? Why are yo complaining as if the fans had nothing to do with this? As if the labels had nothing to do with this? As if the band members themselves had nothing to do with changing their sound? Where is the accountability?

I'm really tired of the rationalizing & excuses for this band. The green day that made Kerplunk died a long time ago, & many people can accept that. I know I can.

If you & others didn't try & equate their obvious recent market pandering with their older stuff as if all older fans are chiming in on consensus that "this is still green day lol!", this old school fan wouldn't have a problem with you, honestly.

I'm apologize for being candid, but if we're all a little more candid, maybe we'd all communicate a little easier, especially in a subjective area as music

POSTED: 05/19/2009 - 01:00 am / quote |
ratmblink123 :
Reading over these reviews angers me.
People have opinions. People are entitled to those opinions.
This is obvious to me, but apparently not to most of you. Yeah, I liked the album. But that doesn't mean I'm gonna hate on everyone who didn't. All I'm gonna say is that no matter what any of us say, Green Day is going to make the kind of music THEY feel like making.

POSTED: 05/19/2009 - 02:24 am / quote |
Riz_kan :
Illiad86 wrote:

Ah well, I don't like this album at all. IMHO, they decided to go with the flow and go whiny like everyone else. And not to mention some of the songs have the most unoriginal lyrics.

Seems to be the only thing you hear on the radio, grown men crying like babies singing about how much they want to die because their woman left them or some other crap. Music's not very original anymore...I'm so glad there's the Internet....


Agree

POSTED: 05/19/2009 - 08:05 am / quote |
Riz_kan :
ratmblink123 wrote:

Reading over these reviews angers me.
People have opinions. People are entitled to those opinions.
This is obvious to me, but apparently not to most of you. Yeah, I liked the album. But that doesn't mean I'm gonna hate on everyone who didn't. All I'm gonna say is that no matter what any of us say, Green Day is going to make the kind of music THEY feel like making.


so just dont read this review if this review make you feel bad man

POSTED: 05/19/2009 - 08:06 am / quote |
SG-Burchett :
A-440 wrote:

bmxsulli wrote:

im sorry but i cant take greenday seriously.
i liked them before the dookie era. when their songs were about whackin off and just hangin out, tryin to have a good time.
all this trying to become a serious band with political lyrics, dying their hiar black, wearing black, almost dressing emo but somehow ppl still see them as punk rockers; it doesnt work for me.

what happened to the band that i used to love that started a mud throwing war at woodstock. suddenly they wear eye shadow and sing depressing songs.

wtf.

lmao he was wearing a black shirt with a red tie at woodstock. and the song about "whackin off"? yeah, that WAS dookie era.


bmxsulli is still right-he didn't mention anything about the black shirt or red tie cos-that's not what made them 'emo'-emos have nicked style traits from old punk and turned it gay- eye liner and depressing pointless lyrics that are made out to be about something important even though its all a load of BS etc etc

reading everyones comments-thanks to the guy who replied to my earlier comment- some people think this album is good some think its bad but its not as good as dookie whatever it is

POSTED: 05/19/2009 - 08:09 am / quote |
Riz_kan :
SG-Burchett wrote:

A-440 wrote:

bmxsulli wrote:

im sorry but i cant take greenday seriously.
i liked them before the dookie era. when their songs were about whackin off and just hangin out, tryin to have a good time.
all this trying to become a serious band with political lyrics, dying their hiar black, wearing black, almost dressing emo but somehow ppl still see them as punk rockers; it doesnt work for me.

what happened to the band that i used to love that started a mud throwing war at woodstock. suddenly they wear eye shadow and sing depressing songs.

wtf.

lmao he was wearing a black shirt with a red tie at woodstock. and the song about "whackin off"? yeah, that WAS dookie era.

bmxsulli is still right-he didn't mention anything about the black shirt or red tie cos-that's not what made them 'emo'-emos have nicked style traits from old punk and turned it gay- eye liner and depressing pointless lyrics that are made out to be about something important even though its all a load of BS etc etc

reading everyones comments-thanks to the guy who replied to my earlier comment- some people think this album is good some think its bad but its not as good as dookie whatever it is


I Dont think so dude..you're out of your mind

POSTED: 05/19/2009 - 09:49 am / quote |
deathcorps666 :
Really this political step isn't working for them. Yeah, they still sound good, but they really have no clue what they're talking about when it comes to our politics. Especially Billie Joe. Have an of you ever heard him talk about politics in an interview. He's completely clueless. And what the **** was up with what he said on Bullet In A Bible? That is complete and utter bull, if we are a bunch of rednecks, get the **** out of the country. Green Day seriously needs to go back to it's roots before they lose all their fans. And if you people like their new political rock bull shit, you're less american than those canadian bastards. Oh and one more thing, someone said it's a good thing to change your sound, cuz the same stuff gets boring after a while, look at AC DC, haven't changed and still rockin' as much as they did in the good old days, same with Metallica.
POSTED: 05/19/2009 - 11:47 am / quote |
deathcorps666 :
oh, meant to put a ? after interview. and i meant to say you're less american than the canadian bastards who are putting out the bull shit they think is music.
POSTED: 05/19/2009 - 11:50 am / quote |
oasis1 :
in my opinion, this is an amazing c-d, its a good continutatio from american idiot, american idiot is amazing, and i wasnt sure if they would be able to rebound after such a sick c-d, but they sure prooved me wrong and released one of the best c-ds ive heard in a while, and it also has an amazing story to it that is easy to follow, just a great c-d.
POSTED: 05/19/2009 - 08:58 pm / quote |
GreenDay73 :
zeroordie6868 wrote: Where? All I know of who sings on "Homecoming" is Billie Joe and Tre

JayLacelle wrote: he sang on homecoming...

Bair wrote: i like American Eulogy because we get to hear Mike sing for the first time that I know of

i like American Eulogy because we get to hear Mike sing for the first time that I know of

he sang on homecoming...

Where? All I know of who sings on "Homecoming" is Billie Joe and Tre


If you listen closly to the "Nobody Likes you" in Homecoming you can hear that the sining goes between Billie & Mike. Sometimes at the same time and some times mike's singing om his own and some time Billie's singing on his own

POSTED: 05/19/2009 - 10:46 pm / quote |
ScrewYouAll :
MetFan10 wrote:

I like how everyone comes on here and their like "Green Day sucks, (Insert Band Here) is better!"

It's funny how some sit there in there Mom's basement sipping on a Mountain Dew, inhaling Cheeto dust, and bitching about how much they hate GD, while Billie Joe and gang are out there standing up there on stage in front of a soldout crowd.

If you believe you can do better than 21st Century Breakdown, then pick up an instrument and prove us all wrong.

Wait, you can't prove anyone wrong, because there is no right or wrong. Everyone has their own opinion and can listen to any music they see fit.

Finally, you accuse them of selling out when the truth is that if you were offered millions of dollars for a song you wrote, you would shut your god damn mouth and sign that contract. Many will say they wouldn't, because the truth is that they haven't been offered the opprotunity.

It amazing how many people lack the ability to CONSTRUCTIVELY CRITICIZE something. Later.


Easily the smartest person who's commented. +-f*cking-1. If you like the record, all well and good, praise is good for bands. If you've got issues with it, flaming the living shite out of the band and people who like it isn't helping at all. Everyone has their own tastes and opinions, but endlessly bitching on about how Green Day aren't punk and how much they suck is just stupid. Sure, you're entitled to an opinion but don't force it on others. People can think what they want. Personally, I liked this CD. I thought it was a more solid an album than American Idiot, and it shows that the guys have still got the potential to make good music. Hell, you can bag the crap out of what i've just said, just keep it to yourself and stop shoving it down everyone's throats like the jumped-up, annoying bastards you are.

POSTED: 05/20/2009 - 02:02 am / quote |
mattnicho :
uberphreak wrote:

BTW, EVERYONE READ THIS:

"you're" = contraction of the words "you are"
"your" = possessive adjective for the noun "you"

"there" = an adverb indicating a position or location
"their" = possessive adjective in the singular referring to "his or her", and in the plural referring to "them" or "they"
"they're" = contraction of the words "they are"

FOR FUCK'S SAKE THIS IS GRAMMAR SCHOOL MATERIAL. PLEASE LEARN IT.

/rant


LEGEND!! xD

POSTED: 05/20/2009 - 04:50 am / quote |
mattnicho :
i have listened to the album and i have to say, I loved every single song EXCEPT "static age". it means abolsutely nothing, it is a song which suits a band 20 years younger than them, not middle aged men.

other than that this is the best album in the world, ever, period.

Dookie is a pile of wank

POSTED: 05/20/2009 - 04:52 am / quote |
rouge_bass :
waitingtohappen wrote:

hairypineapple wrote:

It's growing on me..

Restless Heart Syndrome is a masterpiece

Restless Heart Syndrome is the worst piece of songwriting I've heard in **** knows how long.


And you call yourself a musician...

POSTED: 05/20/2009 - 06:43 am / quote |
rouge_bass :
Snap017 wrote:

Before I speak my mind, I must provide this.

(WARNING: THIS COMMENT MAY BE OFFENSIVE TO SUPPORTERS OF GREEN GA-----DAY. ANYONE WITH AN EASILY UPSET MIND OR STOMACH SHOULD DEFINITELY SKIP THIS COMMENT AND CONTINUE LISTENING TO GARBAGE.)

You are quite entitled to your opinion, but it doesnt seem like a very neutral warning to me.


For one, anyone who willingly supports this album, or any past GD albums, is either a 12 year old girl or a ragingly bi-curious 13 year old boy.

Wow, thats incredibly sexist for a start. Now you are saying that any person who listens to real, emotional, well-written music is either a 12 year old girl or a ragingly bi-curious 13 year old boy.

I mean, aside from the piano parts, the ENTIRE album has NO variety to it.

And you think Metal is any better? Repetitive low E string? Shredding solo? Get a life...

It doesn't matter what "context" the lyrics are in if the rest of the song is ANOTHER REDUNDANT LYRIC.

The lyrics are non redundant. They tell a story, if you couldnt tell. And they are actually quite emotional. And at least I can hear the lyrics. I can't hear a metal bands lyrics.

It's the same drivelling, snot-nosed, repetitive, stupid, alternative bullcrap that's been on mainstream radio since forever.

Oh poor you. Yet I only ever hear singles on the radio.

Each track sounds the same if not VERY similar to the last one, the guitar is the same few powerchords over and over and OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

I took the liberty of removing some over's because you were acting like a retard. Some of the best musical legends revolved around three chords. A one, a four and a five (do you even know what that is?).

Evolving musically doesn't matter if the "evolution" was from total bullcrap to COMPLETE AND TOTAL BULLCRAP.

Yeah...thats the metal path from Sabbath (good stuff) to Dragonforce (COMPLETE AND TOTAL BULLCRAP), too.

Sorry dude. You can't critically analyse music for shit. Maybe you should be more subjective rather than objective. And don't try to act smart, you are a 16 year old kid who knows **** all about music.

POSTED: 05/20/2009 - 07:03 am / quote |
Shard Heilia :
Uh, RogueBass? All you did was take what he said and go "Yeah, but it COULD be done well! Yeah, but your music sucks too!"

You didn't demonstrate...any knowledge of music at all. OOOH YOU KNOW WHAT THE I IV AND V DEGREES ARE. Not impressed.

He's entitled to his opinion just as well as you are, but you were just as much of an objective asshat as he was.

Oh. and...


It doesn't matter what "context" the lyrics are in if the rest of the song is ANOTHER REDUNDANT LYRIC.
It doesn't matter what "context" the lyrics are in if the rest of the song is ANOTHER REDUNDANT LYRIC.


The lyrics are non redundant. They tell a story, if you couldnt tell. And they are actually quite emotional. And at least I can hear the lyrics. I can't hear a metal bands lyrics.


This made me laugh.

'IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT CONTEXT THE LYRICS ARE IN'
'WELL THEY'RE IN THE CONTEXT OF A STORY SO THEY'RE GOOD'

Well done.

POSTED: 05/20/2009 - 05:50 pm / quote |
Devopast :
Off topic but lol @ the flamefest greenday always manages to create.

On topic.

I think Greenday really nailed what they set out to do with this album. They created a rock opera. Granted, they did it with a power-pop twist, but that's what Greenday is all about.

Listening to this album in it's entirity, you can really hear and see how this could be turned into an onstage production. It follows the same formula most musicals follow: Mix of tempo songs and ballads, repeating themes and musical ideas (melodies are often similar within the songs and some songs refer to each other. They even have a "reprised" song, Viva La Gloria")

This album is the greatest demonstration of Billie Joe's vocal ability and melody writing. Before the Lobotomy and 21 Guns have some of the most catchy and musically interesting melodies I have heard from Greenday. Sound wise, this take a turn from the feeling of American Idiot. American had a much more dark and doom-calling mood too it, while this album tends to have a more optimistic and lighter feel while still bringing a level of emotion which makes it believable.

While many of the haters out there bash it for being "alt rock" and not "punk", there is some truth in that. They aren't "punk" as the sex pistols and dead kennedy's are. They never have been and never will be. I would classify them as pop-punk. They reach a greater audiance with a more radio friendly sound and do that to with great success. They follow the punk ideals, but don't do it with the same musical feel. In no way does that discredit their musicianship. They still have created a musically diverse and interesting collection of tracks which will probably have great success.

Wow... I wrote alot more than I intended to, but that's my thoughts on this.

POSTED: 05/20/2009 - 07:39 pm / quote |
SundaySt :
Devopast wrote:

Off topic but lol @ the flamefest greenday always manages to create.

On topic.

I think Greenday really nailed what they set out to do with this album. They created a rock opera. Granted, they did it with a power-pop twist, but that's what Greenday is all about.

Listening to this album in it's entirity, you can really hear and see how this could be turned into an onstage production. It follows the same formula most musicals follow: Mix of tempo songs and ballads, repeating themes and musical ideas (melodies are often similar within the songs and some songs refer to each other. They even have a "reprised" song, Viva La Gloria")

This album is the greatest demonstration of Billie Joe's vocal ability and melody writing. Before the Lobotomy and 21 Guns have some of the most catchy and musically interesting melodies I have heard from Greenday. Sound wise, this take a turn from the feeling of American Idiot. American had a much more dark and doom-calling mood too it, while this album tends to have a more optimistic and lighter feel while still bringing a level of emotion which makes it believable.

While many of the haters out there bash it for being "alt rock" and not "punk", there is some truth in that. They aren't "punk" as the sex pistols and dead kennedy's are. They never have been and never will be. I would classify them as pop-punk. They reach a greater audiance with a more radio friendly sound and do that to with great success. They follow the punk ideals, but don't do it with the same musical feel. In no way does that discredit their musicianship. They still have created a musically diverse and interesting collection of tracks which will probably have great success.

Wow... I wrote alot more than I intended to, but that's my thoughts on this.


+1 for writing such a long comment. :P
And yes, I do agree with you.

POSTED: 05/21/2009 - 07:22 am / quote |
KylenM :
Green Day is ****ing AWESOME.
POSTED: 05/21/2009 - 11:08 am / quote |
brad777no :
rouge_bass do you know anything about metal? your a dumb **** for saying alls metal is, is low e string and shredding solos. BTW a lot of metal bands use Drop C. Anyways metal has a lot more variety than this shitty band. The Human Abstract's Album Nocturne has great piano parts, great neoclassical root solos, diffetent types of vocals, clean harmonic accoustic fills and songs with also the "E string". You need to learn more about music before you say anything about metal. Some metal bands that you call "shredding" are actually using chord progressions and using neo classical techniques. I love punk but now lets compare them. Punk music is pretty much power chords. Metal is power chords, soloes and even more. Your thought on metal was very biased. Shredding takes a lot of thought into it. There are mindless shreds but a lot of them are thought out and made intricately. Stick to punk music when trying to flame on people who listen to metal. You make yourself sound like a dumb ass.
POSTED: 05/21/2009 - 01:32 pm / quote |
FinalCon :
Until people can come up with specific arguments besides "It's repetitive" or "It's for gaywads", I won't respond specifically to anyone.
POSTED: 05/21/2009 - 04:01 pm / quote |
Msu_Man04 :
brad777no wrote:

rouge_bass do you know anything about metal? your a dumb **** for saying alls metal is, is low e string and shredding solos. BTW a lot of metal bands use Drop C. Anyways metal has a lot more variety than this shitty band. The Human Abstract's Album Nocturne has great piano parts, great neoclassical root solos, diffetent types of vocals, clean harmonic accoustic fills and songs with also the "E string". You need to learn more about music before you say anything about metal. Some metal bands that you call "shredding" are actually using chord progressions and using neo classical techniques. I love punk but now lets compare them. Punk music is pretty much power chords. Metal is power chords, soloes and even more. Your thought on metal was very biased. Shredding takes a lot of thought into it. There are mindless shreds but a lot of them are thought out and made intricately. Stick to punk music when trying to flame on people who listen to metal. You make yourself sound like a dumb ass.


Even if you tune down to drop D, Db, or C, it's still the fucking E string. That's how we refer to it because that's what standard tuning is. Then again, 70% of metalheads wouldn't know what this "standard" tuning is. Some do, a lot probably don't.

Metal isn't better just because it's "powerchords, soloes (which you spelled wrong, captain genius) and even more" compared to punk (or in this case pop-punk). It doesn't appeal to a lot of people. Punk doesn't appeal to a lot of people. You're sounding a lot like a dumbass, too, even though you do say some smart things.

POSTED: 05/21/2009 - 06:25 pm / quote |
Msu_Man04 :
That's supposed to be "its," not "it's."
POSTED: 05/21/2009 - 06:40 pm / quote |
Merlinbunny1 :
Bair wrote:

i like American Eulogy because we get to hear Mike sing for the first time that I know of


He sings in Basket Case. . .And Jesus Of Suburbia. . .and in the live Minority. . .

POSTED: 05/21/2009 - 08:03 pm / quote |
Ruenis :
i liked the dookie album and the kerplunk, and some of the nimrod, the other albums.. some songs are pretty cool, others not so much, but for some weird reson, im just not looking forward to hear the album, and even LESS after seeing the video
im just still wondering why the firsts albums of every band are the best ones...

POSTED: 05/22/2009 - 04:55 pm / quote |
Merlinbunny1 :
Ruenis wrote:

im just still wondering why the firsts albums of every band are the best ones...


That's Not True

POSTED: 05/22/2009 - 07:35 pm / quote |
brad777no :
Msu_Man04 wrote:

brad777no wrote:

rouge_bass do you know anything about metal? your a dumb **** for saying alls metal is, is low e string and shredding solos. BTW a lot of metal bands use Drop C. Anyways metal has a lot more variety than this shitty band. The Human Abstract's Album Nocturne has great piano parts, great neoclassical root solos, diffetent types of vocals, clean harmonic accoustic fills and songs with also the "E string". You need to learn more about music before you say anything about metal. Some metal bands that you call "shredding" are actually using chord progressions and using neo classical techniques. I love punk but now lets compare them. Punk music is pretty much power chords. Metal is power chords, soloes and even more. Your thought on metal was very biased. Shredding takes a lot of thought into it. There are mindless shreds but a lot of them are thought out and made intricately. Stick to punk music when trying to flame on people who listen to metal. You make yourself sound like a dumb ass.

Even if you tune down to drop D, Db, or C, it's still the ****ing E string. That's how we refer to it because that's what standard tuning is. Then again, 70% of metalheads wouldn't know what this "standard" tuning is. Some do, a lot probably don't.

Metal isn't better just because it's "powerchords, soloes (which you spelled wrong, captain genius) and even more" compared to punk (or in this case pop-punk). It doesn't appeal to a lot of people. Punk doesn't appeal to a lot of people. You're sounding a lot like a dumbass, too, even though you do say some smart things.


I was talking about the complexity of metal. My grammar and such probably isn't the best. Im from Louisiana. But I was mainly getting at the fact he was calling metal not complex and all similar. I just hate when people stereotype metal. Metal is deeper than people think. I also like punk which actually got me into metal but I listen to hardcore punk. My further point really was that people should have more deep thought into criticizing a entire genre. If I really wanted to I could go and explain all the different subgenres of metal that make it more than solos and the E string.

And about the E string thing, I was trying to mimic him in his act of trying to flame somebody. It did seem very dickish but I was trying to also further point out his ignorance and lack of knowledge of the metal genre

POSTED: 05/24/2009 - 12:20 am / quote |
laurr :
Shitty lyrics? What's wrong with a little repetition to get your line across to today's dulled society. Take a look at the majority of lyrics which have full meaning and are very nicely written.
POSTED: 05/24/2009 - 12:36 am / quote |
Shard Heilia :
laurr wrote:

Shitty lyrics? What's wrong with a little repetition to get your line across to today's dulled society. Take a look at the majority of lyrics which have full meaning and are very nicely written.


That's just it! You shouldn't have to bring society into a debate about music to justify it! It's supposed to be about the feelings conveyed by the music, the joy or sadness it can bring to people, and the amazing experience of playing it for people!

If you're just writing music to drill your propaganda through 'today's dulled society', then quit.

POSTED: 05/24/2009 - 10:42 am / quote |
wildchild6660 :
I've listened to the album three times over and Ladt of the american girls is the best for me so far. Don't really like know your enemy mush. Too repetitive.
POSTED: 05/24/2009 - 12:19 pm / quote |
wildchild6660 :
Msu_Man04 wrote:

wildchild6660 wrote:

JayLacelle wrote:

Bair wrote:

i like American Eulogy because we get to hear Mike sing for the first time that I know of

he sang on homecoming...
No he didn't. That was tre. He sang on some other song I can't remember on dookie I think

Jesus Christ you people don't listen and don't just look stuff up. Mike sang "Homecoming: Nobody Likes You" and Tre sang "Homecoming: Rock 'N' Roll Girlfriend."

Who ELSE wants to be enlightened?

oops! sorry, completely forgot about that. My bad.

POSTED: 05/24/2009 - 12:37 pm / quote |
wildchild6660 :
AlexBarraclough wrote:

i download the deluxe version on itunes and got 4 bonus tracks. 'A quick one whilst he's still away', 'Another state of mind', 'That's all right' and 'Like a rolling stone'.
Are some of these covers or are they original GD songs?

A quick one is by the who I think and Like a rolling stone is a bod dylan song. Gotta check it out

POSTED: 05/24/2009 - 12:39 pm / quote |
mattant250 :
Msu_Man04 wrote:

wildchild6660 wrote:

JayLacelle wrote:

Bair wrote:

i like American Eulogy because we get to hear Mike sing for the first time that I know of

he sang on homecoming...
No he didn't. That was tre. He sang on some other song I can't remember on dookie I think

Jesus Christ you people don't listen and don't just look stuff up. Mike sang "Homecoming: Nobody Likes You" and Tre sang "Homecoming: Rock 'N' Roll Girlfriend."

Who ELSE wants to be enlightened?


He also sang on Eminius Sleepus (off Dookie) and JAR (off international superhits!)

POSTED: 05/25/2009 - 08:55 am / quote |
FinalCon :
Shard Heilia wrote:

laurr wrote:

Shitty lyrics? What's wrong with a little repetition to get your line across to today's dulled society. Take a look at the majority of lyrics which have full meaning and are very nicely written.

That's just it! You shouldn't have to bring society into a debate about music to justify it! It's supposed to be about the feelings conveyed by the music, the joy or sadness it can bring to people, and the amazing experience of playing it for people!

If you're just writing music to drill your propaganda through 'today's dulled society', then quit.

Great word choice. If you think about it, you could claim that anything that tries to deliver a message is propaganda though.

This is not propaganda. This is Green Day's (probably mainly Billie Joe Armstrong's) view on how society is today, through Christian and Gloria's story.

POSTED: 05/26/2009 - 03:00 pm / quote |
guitargirlmolly :
I love it. 9.8/10. Great lyrics, great story, and relevant. Those who don't like it, quit yer bitchin. Green Day grew up, so what? Story line's a little iffy though, not as easy to follow as AI, which I kinda liked.
POSTED: 05/27/2009 - 07:28 pm / quote |
deadstring_3000 :
heyyy...
i think something is very very common about "know your enemy" and "american idiot" .Also in "21 guns" and "boulevard of broken dreams"...very weird,huh...but it is still nice! green day still rocks for me!(i thought silverstein would replace them in my life,but no! haha)
and yeah,something is also common with "american eulogy" and "homecming"/"jesus of suburbia"...
well,i thing there are a lot of common stuff between "american idiot album" and "21st century breakdown album"...well that's all...

POSTED: 06/01/2009 - 11:23 pm / quote |
USCENDONE BENE :
Lol, the guy who said that Horseshoes and Handgrenades was worthy of Dookie: No, just no. Very good song, but no.
POSTED: 06/02/2009 - 06:04 am / quote |
USCENDONE BENE :
^ Im not saying it's not good enough to go on Dookie, just to clarify, just that it really wouldnt fit that era of Green Day songs, if anything it's closer to a Nimrod song than a Dookie song
POSTED: 06/02/2009 - 06:06 am / quote |
lao123 :
Lol my review got is rated 1 star... I really should have waited a week or two before reviewing...
POSTED: 06/02/2009 - 03:40 pm / quote |
Shard Heilia :
lao123 wrote:

Lol my review got is rated 1 star... I really should have waited a week or two before reviewing...


Tell me about it. Never piss off rabid 12 year olds...

POSTED: 06/04/2009 - 02:59 pm / quote |
Shard Heilia :
Shard Heilia wrote:

lao123 wrote:

Lol my review got is rated 1 star... I really should have waited a week or two before reviewing...

Tell me about it. Never piss off rabid 12 year olds...


Oh, you wrote a GOOD review? That's even funnier. NOBODY LIKES ANYBODY'S OPINION NOW.

POSTED: 06/04/2009 - 03:01 pm / quote |
Purple_Tears156 :
this album is amazing, i know that it is vey different from their previous albums but what i like about it is that they aren't just singing about anything, they actually wrote their songs in a story form, just like American Idiot. the 3 different acts are all good in their own way. the 1st act is the new-ish green day, and 2nd act is like 'woah, where did that come from'? and the 3rd act is like 'punk all the way'. what i also like about this album is that if you are a green day fan then you can actually feel so much emotion in their songs. i play along to the majority of songs on this album on my guitar and whilst i am playing i feel so much emotion and i dont want to stop playing. i love green day and always will do. unfortunately i have never seen them live and probably never will but green day are in my heart forever.
POSTED: 06/04/2009 - 05:36 pm / quote |
brad777no :
Purple_Tears156 wrote:

this album is amazing, i know that it is vey different from their previous albums but what i like about it is that they aren't just singing about anything, they actually wrote their songs in a story form, just like American Idiot. the 3 different acts are all good in their own way. the 1st act is the new-ish green day, and 2nd act is like 'woah, where did that come from'? and the 3rd act is like 'punk all the way'. what i also like about this album is that if you are a green day fan then you can actually feel so much emotion in their songs. i play along to the majority of songs on this album on my guitar and whilst i am playing i feel so much emotion and i dont want to stop playing. i love green day and always will do. unfortunately i have never seen them live and probably never will but green day are in my heart forever.


lmao wow you feel emotion while playing green day. thats gay. their music has no soul. Its pop punk.

POSTED: 06/05/2009 - 07:59 am / quote |
koreanhitokori :
brad777no wrote:

Purple_Tears156 wrote:

this album is amazing, i know that it is vey different from their previous albums but what i like about it is that they aren't just singing about anything, they actually wrote their songs in a story form, just like American Idiot. the 3 different acts are all good in their own way. the 1st act is the new-ish green day, and 2nd act is like 'woah, where did that come from'? and the 3rd act is like 'punk all the way'. what i also like about this album is that if you are a green day fan then you can actually feel so much emotion in their songs. i play along to the majority of songs on this album on my guitar and whilst i am playing i feel so much emotion and i dont want to stop playing. i love green day and always will do. unfortunately i have never seen them live and probably never will but green day are in my heart forever.

lmao wow you feel emotion while playing green day. thats gay. their music has no soul. Its pop punk.


that statement was gay
you wanna know music that has no soul?
miley cyrus and jonas brothers
end of discussion

POSTED: 06/05/2009 - 10:29 am / quote |
brad777no :
koreanhitokori wrote:

brad777no wrote:

Purple_Tears156 wrote:

this album is amazing, i know that it is vey different from their previous albums but what i like about it is that they aren't just singing about anything, they actually wrote their songs in a story form, just like American Idiot. the 3 different acts are all good in their own way. the 1st act is the new-ish green day, and 2nd act is like 'woah, where did that come from'? and the 3rd act is like 'punk all the way'. what i also like about this album is that if you are a green day fan then you can actually feel so much emotion in their songs. i play along to the majority of songs on this album on my guitar and whilst i am playing i feel so much emotion and i dont want to stop playing. i love green day and always will do. unfortunately i have never seen them live and probably never will but green day are in my heart forever.

lmao wow you feel emotion while playing green day. thats gay. their music has no soul. Its pop punk.

that statement was gay
you wanna know music that has no soul?
miley cyrus and jonas brothers
end of discussion


And I dont listen to that ****ing shit. I listen to real music like hardcore punk metal and the music thats not made by pussys. I hate Jonas Brothers and Miley Cyrus. Lmao Journey kicks Green Days ass.

POSTED: 06/05/2009 - 10:00 pm / quote |
jables1138 :
To the reviewer who wrote that 21 Guns was the best song on the album, I have to disagree. IMHO, it was worst song on the album. (The verses in Christians Inferno do give it a run for its money) Whenever I hear the chorus, it doesn't make me want to lay down my arms, but instead to put it to my head and fire. It just doesn't sound very Green Day-like. It also didn't feel like it had any emotion. It just sounded like generic punk. Really, so uninspired, dull, generic anti-gun songs are cool. I'm all for peace, but this song almost put me to sleep. (I do, however, agree with most of your review. I was pleasantly surprised by this album. Wasn't so much a fan of American Idiot, but this one felt kind of idk, right.)
POSTED: 06/09/2009 - 03:36 am / quote |
jables1138 :
btw, when I say 'generic punk' I'm trying to convey the point that in order for something to be punk, it can't sound generic. After re-reading my post, I figured out that I didn't really get the point that I was trying to make. Generic music does not equal punk.
POSTED: 06/09/2009 - 03:45 am / quote |
wildchild6660 :
Anone think Mike Dirnt sounds like Joe Strummer?
POSTED: 06/10/2009 - 06:51 pm / quote |
deadstring_3000 :
haha...i don't give a s*** about miley cyrus...haha
but jonas brothers...one of the best band to punch ... ...they really suck,people (specially girls)only like them because they're handsome...but they don't know what's the real music...am i right? hahah..peace

POSTED: 06/10/2009 - 08:31 pm / quote |
razza guitar :
Great album
POSTED: 06/13/2009 - 02:20 am / quote |
rocknrollstar :
Not bad. Better than I thought it would be. Bit long and some of the lyrics make me cringe, but compared to other releases this year, this ones is one of the better ones.
POSTED: 06/14/2009 - 01:29 pm / quote |
FinalCon :
As with most haters, opinions are based upon either one single (Know Your Enemy is probably the weakest offering on the disc), or preconceived notions about the album. There are people that truly hate it, but they just don't like Green Day's style.

How about this, Green Day does not suck. They have a soul (part of the album is about love... of course it would be emotional). You just don't like them. And that's perfectly fine. No need to call out Green Day and all of their fans though.

POSTED: 06/16/2009 - 08:42 pm / quote |
billy18 :
brad777no wrote:

koreanhitokori wrote:

brad777no wrote:

Purple_Tears156 wrote:

this album is amazing, i know that it is vey different from their previous albums but what i like about it is that they aren't just singing about anything, they actually wrote their songs in a story form, just like American Idiot. the 3 different acts are all good in their own way. the 1st act is the new-ish green day, and 2nd act is like 'woah, where did that come from'? and the 3rd act is like 'punk all the way'. what i also like about this album is that if you are a green day fan then you can actually feel so much emotion in their songs. i play along to the majority of songs on this album on my guitar and whilst i am playing i feel so much emotion and i dont want to stop playing. i love green day and always will do. unfortunately i have never seen them live and probably never will but green day are in my heart forever.

lmao wow you feel emotion while playing green day. thats gay. their music has no soul. Its pop punk.

that statement was gay
you wanna know music that has no soul?
miley cyrus and jonas brothers
end of discussion

And I dont listen to that ****ing shit. I listen to real music like hardcore punk metal and the music thats not made by pussys. I hate Jonas Brothers and Miley Cyrus. Lmao Journey kicks Green Days ass.


green day weren't pussy's when people were jumpin about to welcome to paradise in 95 and played in front of over 100000 people in two days in milton keynes- bullet in a bible tour. If u like journey fair enough but green day's fan base suggests that they are a massive band and plenty of people do like them.

POSTED: 06/19/2009 - 01:03 pm / quote |
mattant250 :
USCENDONE BENE wrote:

^ Im not saying it's not good enough to go on Dookie, just to clarify, just that it really wouldnt fit that era of Green Day songs, if anything it's closer to a Nimrod song than a Dookie song


oh that was me :o

I don't know why I put Dookie, I must have meant Insomniac or Nimrod. Probably more Nimrod.

By the way, the guy who said that Static Age sounded like Church On Sunday, I don't see the similarity??? I do see the similarity between a part of American Eulogy and Deadbeat Holiday (one of the verses of Mass Hysteria sounds like the one in Deadbeat Holiday, imo)

POSTED: 06/22/2009 - 06:57 am / quote |
somewhatdamaged :
These guys have turned into emo faggots. Look at how they dress nowadays. It's disgusting that they have stooped that low just to appease the little teeny boppers. Nimrod was the last good album these guys put out. This s**t is absolutely disgusting and promotes the horrible mainstream route that the new generation is heading towards. (Waiting for the new AIC album; I hope that it brings some redemption to the bands that are still around from the 90's.)
POSTED: 06/22/2009 - 03:53 pm / quote |
guitarherojosh :
their is few good songs on this album but not a patch on american idiot. the best song on the album is easily 21 guns
POSTED: 06/23/2009 - 07:47 am / quote |
Juankpjc :
i think the best is viva la gloria little girl... but the album is grat
POSTED: 06/26/2009 - 08:38 pm / quote |
crabhammer217 :
After hearing know your enemy i was sceptical too, but found some amazing songs. This cd might be different than their previous one but in my opinion its one of thier best. 21 guns is amazing and horseshoes and handgrenades is way fun to listen to. Still not as good as basket case but...
POSTED: 06/27/2009 - 10:23 pm / quote |
amacno2 :
1. There are 4 Bonus Tracks: A Quick One, While He's Away, Another State of Mind, That's All Right, Like A Rolling Stone.

2. They are all covers. Yes, AQ1 is by the Who, ASOM is by Social Distortion, That's All Right by Elvis, and LARS by Bob Dylan.

POSTED: 06/28/2009 - 06:10 pm / quote |
amacno2 :
JFRules :
Green day is ok if your 13. Seems all they want children to lisen to their music.

no not quite. im 13 and i love them, but i also love Led Zeppelin, Aerosmith, Pink Floyd, Guns N' Roses and The Who so there ya go

POSTED: 06/28/2009 - 06:26 pm / quote |
Metalic Demon :
i know im probably gonna get flamed for saying this, but i really didnt like this album, green day are traditionaly a punk rock band and this albumb, well im sure you all know, isnt punk rock by any means. although i am a metal head, i got into grean day about 7 or 8 years ago and i am a huge fan of their work, but this new albumb has nothing of what made me like green day in the first place.

and could i also say that a hell of a lot of scene kids have this albumb and are completely buming the f/uck out of it, saying its the best thing ever, it just f/ucking isnt. most the songs are boring, and the ones that arent dont even compare to green days earlier stuff.

they spent 5 years on this albumb and in my eyes.....well, ears technicaly.....it was a complete waste of time and effort because this albumb isnt green day, its shite!!!

1/10

POSTED: 07/03/2009 - 08:42 pm / quote |
alkalinetrio97 :
i think it was a great cd. green day was punk years ago. billie jo said in a mag, he feels green day is better than just all power chords. if green day is enjoying doing what they are doing good for them. once you get playing just for other peoples ears and not yours then, you might all well give it up. they were flamed for american idiot, that didnt stop them. they came out with another rock opera, which signifies they love doing what they do.
POSTED: 07/05/2009 - 11:00 pm / quote |
yngwie.jnr :
JayLacelle wrote:

Bair wrote:

i like American Eulogy because we get to hear Mike sing for the first time that I know of

he sang on homecoming...


YOU sang on homecoming, OOOOOH gunna take that?????

sorry..

POSTED: 07/07/2009 - 02:12 am / quote |
Versailles_X :
I hate post nimrod green day, but I honestly think this is their best album.
POSTED: 07/07/2009 - 12:08 pm / quote |
roland_96 :
Quite honestly the best album i have ever heard. But the thing about this album is that this is one of those records that a f/uckload of people are going to hate, people who aren't fans of classic rock. There really isn't a best song, all the musical ideas here are divided to where all the best parts aren't put into one song. My personal favorite "parts" are the solo from "Restless Heart Syndrome," and "I Don't Wanna Live In The Modern World." But this record REALLY isn't for everyone so every dumbass who posted a comment who didn't like this album need to leave it alone. I don't go on the reviews of Jonas Bros. or Shinedown albums. Jesus.
POSTED: 07/07/2009 - 03:23 pm / quote |
toaster_poodle :
I wish I could just ignore their baseless opinions...but few things piss me off more than the ****ing idiots that love to blindly hate Green Day. I've never seen such pathetic levels of ignorance.
POSTED: 07/18/2009 - 10:46 pm / quote |
GrungeJunkie :
HFR wrote:

Anarchy_Ant wrote:

Zacky~Vengeance wrote:

Brendan.Clace wrote:

To the douche that says this is far better than Dookie:

Fuck off, and go throw in your american idiot CD. Dookie IS Green Day. These guys have musically evolved into a pit of hell. This sucks, american idiot sucked and these guys need to return to their Dookie roots.
LMAO someone a little stuck in the past? Gotta agree with the other guy, this is way better than dookie and way more INTELLIGENT... I hvn't heard green day sound this good in a long time

Rofl, totally agree. Also, i'm pretty sure Green Day get to decide who Green Day are. They've evolved musically, which is awesome for a band to do, especially after being together for so long.

Awesome album.

Well yeah that true it would be realy pointless to listen to a band who's music sounds the same album through album


*cough*AC/DC*cough*

Anyway, I'm gonna buy this album as soon as I can. I'm still a bit skeptical, but I'll give it a thorough listen.

POSTED: 07/21/2009 - 03:05 pm / quote |
BUTCHY13 :
This album is awful from start to finish. It sounds like Manic Street Preachers meets talentless idiots. It's no wonder it took them 5 years to pluck up the courage to inflict this mindless shite upon the world. I want Billie Joe to personally refund my 10quid whilst also offering a grovelling appology.
POSTED: 07/25/2009 - 07:36 pm / quote |
cazza_lee :
this is the best album green day have ever released! second review totally wrong about 'the static age'.
POSTED: 07/28/2009 - 06:45 am / quote |
5dilloneastoe :
to everyone saying its not punk. it may not exactly be punk rock music although it contains elements of it. they do what they want even if most of you dont like it. isnt that what punks all about. you "punks" need to get over yourselves a bit. rant over
POSTED: 07/31/2009 - 05:28 am / quote |
iceman45 :
this is like warning but not as good =(
POSTED: 08/03/2009 - 01:14 am / quote |
cjcool06 :
Bair wrote:

i like American Eulogy because we get to hear Mike sing for the first time that I know of


He wrote the "nobody likes you" part on Homecoming at the end of the American Idiot Album But not sure he sung it or not, it's a little hard to tell.

POSTED: 08/31/2009 - 02:19 pm / quote |
Bosco_Hogan :
JayLacelle wrote:

Bair wrote:

i like American Eulogy because we get to hear Mike sing for the first time that I know of

he sang on homecoming...

no i thought that was tre, wasnt it? either, it was a good album

POSTED: 09/11/2009 - 02:09 pm / quote |
iwannabesedated :
How does this one get a better overall rating than American Idiot?
It's not bad but AI was way better.

POSTED: 10/05/2009 - 04:38 pm / quote |
hiddenwuss :
Blah...bought the cd...listened to it...pulled it out of my cd player and broke it in half...dug out international superhits...put that in my cd player...then pulled out my zune and found something better to listen...I appreciate when a band evolves, I really do...but I've had too many of my bands evolve in wrong directions (Linkin Park, that means you!)...the songs on this cd all have the same build (slow start, quick beat and pickup afterwards...) I just like to have a little more variety in my music, and this album is not the place to be looking for that...sorry!
POSTED: 10/06/2009 - 01:48 pm / quote |
Xakaryus :
I like how everyone likes Horseshoes and Handgrenades so much, when it sounds almost exactly like Two Timing Touch and Broken Bones by the Hives. Seriously, they're almost the same song.
POSTED: 10/23/2009 - 04:47 pm / quote |
duzit89 :
im not guna say it sucks ..im not gunna say it was Great.. I Just Don't Like This Album. Period
POSTED: 10/24/2009 - 06:14 am / quote |
stone886 :
This is one of the best albums I've heard for awhile since American Idiot, but I've been a Green Day fan since I started playing guitar. I have to admit though they've changed alot since Dookie. That was punk rock from the heart though, man. This album gets a ten though.
POSTED: 10/26/2009 - 08:47 am / quote |
GDayFanatic711 :
I feel kind of bad for those who dont get how great this album is... it is unfreakingbelievable! My favorite album by green day
My favorite song is not actually horseshoes and handgrenades (yeah, i went there) but it is 21 guns. the song is freaking deep and hits the heart and soul. Gotta love a song like that. i especially love the line "does the pain weigh out the pride..." i mean seriously, it makes you think.

POSTED: 11/03/2009 - 08:11 pm / quote |
GDayFanatic711 :
toaster_poodle wrote:
I wish I could just ignore their baseless opinions...but few things piss me off more than the ****ing idiots that love to blindly hate Green Day. I've never seen such pathetic levels of ignorance.

right on

POSTED: 11/03/2009 - 08:15 pm / quote |
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