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SOADwannabe
: first?
anyway, i love the new album as well as their sound on Come Clarity.
If you're a fan of their old work you probably will hate how they have changed.POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 02:31 am / quote |
fecefeast
: First...
cool, I might check it out. Im not a huge In Flames fan but It looks promisingPOSTED: 04/01/2008 - 02:31 am / quote |
Matt_1213
: This album is brilliant. It makes me smile when the 'true death-metallers' rag on Flames for being 'generic', when they forget that they helped establish the genre in the first place. Doubtless they'll be posting below soon enoughPOSTED: 04/01/2008 - 02:44 am / quote |
Vanhanen
: Come Clarity is better i Thing, but this album is still great!POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 02:46 am / quote |
jester ed
: Anders ruins this otherwise ok album. The vocals are predictible and just boring but there are at least a couple of good moments instrumentally.
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legato boy
: great album! 'alias', 'condemned', 'the mirrors truth', 'the chosen pessimist' and 'drenched in fear' are excellentPOSTED: 04/01/2008 - 02:52 am / quote |
touji-za-nai
: this album rocks!! takes some getting use to just because it is yet another change of tone for in flames but i still love it!! 8.5/10POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 02:59 am / quote |
evilbeavil
: have yet to hear it, great review regardless thoughPOSTED: 04/01/2008 - 03:49 am / quote |
dsaanm
: Been waiting for this album for some time and I didn't get disaponted in the result. Great review.POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 03:53 am / quote |
*toki*
: sounds awsome! in flames rule and they keep getting better with every albumPOSTED: 04/01/2008 - 03:56 am / quote |
say5ss2
: new album? Mehh... Although they have returned slightly to their original roots but i have to say that the vocals are just appalling... i mean cmon its just dry whinny and just sounds wrong.....POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 04:32 am / quote |
KoRnBitch
: Every kind of In Flames is ****ing great. OLD & NEW.
ASOP is a great album, I love it.POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 04:34 am / quote |
thecameronator
: that 2nd review, made me cringe... i mean, he/she has there own opinion, but calling the jester races lyrics "a joke" and saying they didnt make sense? *shakes head*POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 04:42 am / quote |
Perpetual Burn
: Didn't really like it...was quite disapointed.POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 05:17 am / quote |
emr_steelmech
: thecameronator wrote:
that 2nd review, made me cringe... i mean, he/she has there own opinion, but calling the jester races lyrics "a joke" and saying they didnt make sense? *shakes head* | +1. First review was very good and thorough however.POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 05:25 am / quote |
Benjibum
: I dont like old in flames... I guess that makes me a worse fan than those other gus who only like their old stuff, huh?
No one has posted their hardcore dedication to old In Flames yet... Hurry up!POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 05:55 am / quote |
legot
: I love both their old and new stuff,and this album is just greaaaat!!
Well...It's In Flames^^
I'll never get enough from Colony and Jester Race,though^^POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 06:16 am / quote |
Perpetual Burn
: Benjibum wrote:
I dont like old in flames... I guess that makes me a worse fan than those other gus who only like their old stuff, huh?
I heart old In Flames!!!
No one has posted their hardcore dedication to old In Flames yet... Hurry up! | POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 06:21 am / quote |
GMR5
: This album isnt that good imo.POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 06:26 am / quote |
ShoeFaceBass
: New album = Not very good
waaaaay to whiny, just like Come Clarity.
I dont think they'll ever top Whoracle, that's just a really badass album. POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 06:34 am / quote |
+}-136-{+
: I'm definitely going to check this out. Although the guitar melodies of 'Come Clarity' weren't that good, the vocal melodies were. Hopefully there'll be a mix of that in this album. POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 07:29 am / quote |
[x]Huffy[x]
: This album is pretty cool, thir best since Clayman IMO.
IN FLAMES WE TRUST.POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 07:51 am / quote |
r04ch
: the start of sleepless again is awesome with the acoustics. POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 08:05 am / quote |
hitek008
: they been around for long time so they gradually progess with their sound...so what...still havent heard the new album, OLD&NEW in flames still badassPOSTED: 04/01/2008 - 08:22 am / quote |
adamdrulz
: Yup, best album in a long time for them, I find it also as one of their softest, not by much, and neither is that a bad thing. The Mirror's Truth is a fantastic single. One of the 3 best metal albums released this year.POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 08:30 am / quote |
adamdrulz
: Yup, best album in a long time for them, I find it also as one of their softest, not by much, and neither is that a bad thing. The Mirror's Truth is a fantastic single. One of the 3 best metal albums released this year.POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 08:30 am / quote |
MassacreDeicide
: Whoracle, Lunar Strain, Come Clarity, and A Sense of Purpose... yeah, good shit. and who was the kid who said that Anders' vocals screwed up the album... **** that, he has been the voice of In Flames and Sweden for 12 years, almost 13... get used to it kid. if you wanna post hate mail, throw it in fall Out boys direction...POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 08:45 am / quote |
Josh Laiho
: THIS GODDAMN ALBUM SUCKS!!! YOU ARE A STUPID FUCK IF YOU LIKE ANY OF IN FLAMES NEW SHIT!!!POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 10:29 am / quote |
Stuminton
: Josh Laiho wrote:
THIS GODDAMN ALBUM SUCKS!!! YOU ARE A STUPID FUCK IF YOU LIKE ANY OF IN FLAMES NEW SHIT!!! |
i conclude you do not like itPOSTED: 04/01/2008 - 10:47 am / quote |
chris_libby_88
: the album doesnt suck, but it is super poppy sounding. i dont really like it, except for a few riffs and solosPOSTED: 04/01/2008 - 10:48 am / quote |
whitesummer527
: yea man I feel the same, it just feels watered down almost. POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 10:58 am / quote |
whitesummer527
: and to say Anders lyrics were a joke on the Jester Race is complete BS! Does anyone else hate the new lyrics he writes? its always the same thing, he can't sleep or hes trying to escape. There is no imagery or imagination really, anyone troubled 14 year old could write them. POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 10:59 am / quote |
unbridled03
: First off, the second review is moronic.
Second, this isn't an awful album. I think it had a lot of promise but in MY opinion the vocals suck the creativity out of the songs with predictability. We all know there's going to be Anders singing in the choruses... They do make a better attempt at solos and some of the riffs are catchy, but I cannot get over the fact that sometimes Anders sounds like Jonathan Davis. Take for example "Alias" Listen to it and tell me it doesn't sound like Davis making a cameo. I'm not at all disappointed. I've realized that they will never make another "Colony" or "Whoracle". You just kinda have to take them as they are. Bands change for whatever reasons. These guys still put on a hell of a show and are one of my favorite bands of all time. I just don't enjoy their Post "Clayman" music as much. POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 11:06 am / quote |
unbridled03
: Well obviously they're trying to grab a new younger audience and the "angsty" "simple" lyrics will hit home for a lot of the 14 year olds who like to pretend to hate everything. POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 11:11 am / quote |
Colchester91
: I haven't got it yet but I gather it's not like they're old stuff. That's disappointing. They're new stuff is fine. It's just not the excellence of Whoracle or Colony. I guess 'The New In Flames' is like a beer with no head. Sure it's nice, but it just isn't special anymore.POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 11:26 am / quote |
skyillusion
: First off, I would like to say that this album is amazing, definitely reminiscent of their old days, as well as a good mixture of the newer albums. And I don't think any of the albums have been awful, they all have their gems on it, some just more so than others. I don't understand why so many people hated Soundtrack t your Escape and Come Clarity, I've been a fan on In Flames for a long time and one of my favorite songs is from Soundtrack to Your Escape.
Regardless, bands change for reasons unbeknownst to us, just take the album as it is, it definitely has its moments.POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 11:30 am / quote |
chaseNbadguys
: I am so there! I have been waiting for this to come out and am going to buy it right now!POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 11:32 am / quote |
stumaster18
: downloading this right now.
then it either gonna buy it or delete it.
I hate the prices of metal albums these days. such a rip off.POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 11:56 am / quote |
MrTin
: r04ch wrote:
the start of sleepless again is awesome with the acoustics. |
+1
And am I the only one who likes both their new and old stuff equally? I mean I love the guitar harmonies of Swim but I still really like the chorus of The Mirror's thruth.POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 12:25 pm / quote |
atomicblast
: Yeaaaaah... Bedtime Story was probably one of In Flames ' best songs since who knows when.
This album is much more solid than even Come Clarity, and unlike CC, I've actually been listening to this one. It's not an album of the past, but it's good enough for a few spins.POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 12:31 pm / quote |
atomicblast
: Yeaaaaah... Bedtime Story was probably one of In Flames ' best songs since who knows when.
This album is much more solid than even Come Clarity, and unlike CC, I've actually been listening to this one. It's not an album of the past, but it's good enough for a few spins.POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 12:31 pm / quote |
flemflames
: I've given it a chance, and I conclude:
GODDAMN! BRING BACK THE DAYS OF EPISODE 666!!! POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 12:43 pm / quote |
Lloyd2
: They still play Episode 666 and Graveland live \m/
BTT: The new album is great and for me it'S the best since Clayman. I love the catchiness of the first 7 songs and the Speed and dynamic of the last 4. More Leads Some accoustic parts and 0,96 seconds growling XD.POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 01:47 pm / quote |
Douglas_Kouslak
: I like in flames. No matter how their music has changed. This album is not my favourite, but there is still a lot of goods songs.POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 02:48 pm / quote |
unbridled03
: Ever since I heard "Acoustic Medley" years ago, I've always wanted them to do an acoustic album.POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 02:52 pm / quote |
I_Am_In_Flames
: I'm obviously a big In Flames fan, & i prefer their new stuff over the old.. It's melodic, energetic & i love it.POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 03:01 pm / quote |
Delanoir
: April Fool's, right?
because this album is actually quite mediocre.POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 03:05 pm / quote |
Kreuger
: I enjoyed every album (or select songs from each) until this snoozefest came out.POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 03:18 pm / quote |
The JesterHead
: The new album would be excellent in every way, but the "I feel like shit, but at least I feel something" part was close to destroying the entire album... Those are the worst lines In Flames has ever made, although the rest of the song is really not bad... Anyway, the album is really good, if only the lyrics were less personal - it's kinda boring to hear the same stuff for the last 8 years...POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 03:44 pm / quote |
Confetti
: The new album is just bad.
There isn't even one great song on it.
The melodies and rifs were both boring and unoriginal in my head. Or they might have been very original but if they were then both sucked hard. The album in whole didn't give me anything.
The clean vocals suck aswell on thisalbum.POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 03:52 pm / quote |
flame843
: I like this one a lot better than Come Clarity..I dunno why you guys are saying it's so whiny, I think it's a lot ballsier especially in the second half. March to the Shore? Not even remotely whiny.POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 04:13 pm / quote |
Mate.Feed.Kill.
: Matt_1213 wrote:
This album is brilliant. It makes me smile when the 'true death-metallers' rag on Flames for being 'generic', when they forget that they helped establish the genre in the first place. Doubtless they'll be posting below soon enough |
In Flames didn't pioneer death metal, they helped pioneer in the gothenburg era but the certainly weren't the first (see Entombed, Dark Tranquility). I like the first better The Jester Races lyrics were amazing. I'm definitely gunna check it out as long as it isn't another soundtrack, which I'm hearing it might be.POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 04:30 pm / quote |
flame843
: Mate.Feed.Kill. wrote:
In Flames didn't pioneer death metal, they helped pioneer in the gothenburg era but the certainly weren't the first (see Entombed, Dark Tranquility). I like the first better The Jester Races lyrics were amazing. I'm definitely gunna check it out as long as it isn't another soundtrack, which I'm hearing it might be. |
It's not really anything like Soundtrack. It's most similar to a mix of Clayman and Come Clarity with a little more synth.POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 04:41 pm / quote |
Harmonix123
: Personally, I think their new sound is great. It sounds a little cleaner than their previous albums.POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 04:53 pm / quote |
Pretty_Much
: it doesnt come out till April 4thPOSTED: 04/01/2008 - 05:31 pm / quote |
duncang
: Mate.Feed.Kill. wrote:
Matt_1213 wrote:
This album is brilliant. It makes me smile when the 'true death-metallers' rag on Flames for being 'generic', when they forget that they helped establish the genre in the first place. Doubtless they'll be posting below soon enough
In Flames didn't pioneer death metal, they helped pioneer in the gothenburg era but the certainly weren't the first (see Entombed, Dark Tranquility). I like the first better The Jester Races lyrics were amazing. I'm definitely gunna check it out as long as it isn't another soundtrack, which I'm hearing it might be. |
Hah, since when did Entombed pioneer the Gothenburg sound?POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 05:36 pm / quote |
Ibzman
: Sorry but I'm disappointed by the album. Come Clarity was better.POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 05:39 pm / quote |
jerkoffjack
: the only thing the new In Flames CD is good for is a beer coaster.POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 05:45 pm / quote |
onslaughton
: just got the cd and i have to say some of the songs are a little repetative, but those that are good, are amazing
anders bjorn and jesper show their brilliance as they attempt to bring back a fan base that was lost over a few awful records
i personally love the cd for several titles, alias being the best
and im glad to say that the acoustic interludes they are famous for makes an appearancePOSTED: 04/01/2008 - 06:05 pm / quote |
rebofthetemple
: much better than CC in my opinion, though some of the songs do sound repetitive. Condemned and The Chosen Pessimist are enough to get me to buy this albumPOSTED: 04/01/2008 - 06:21 pm / quote |
Res.urrect.ion
: I'm sick of people constantly comparing their new stuff to the old. Everyone knows the old stuff is better!!
Although...saying that, i do think that this album kicks some serious assPOSTED: 04/01/2008 - 06:22 pm / quote |
Baronobeefdip
: MrTin wrote:
And am I the only one who likes both their new and old stuff equally? I mean I love the guitar harmonies of Swim but I still really like the chorus of The Mirror's thruth.
You are not alone my friend. I LOVE OLD AND NEW In Flames! YOU'RE NOT IN THE BAND, THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT, SO GET OVER IT!!!
|
flemflames wrote:
I've given it a chance, and I conclude:
GODDAMN! BRING BACK THE DAYS OF EPISODE 666!!! |
Agreed. I think that would be awesome if they made a cd with their new style and TJR/Whoracle vocal/growling the lyrics. That also would have been pretty cool if they'd have mixed that vocal style into CC and ASOP. Again... YOU'RE NOT IN THE BAND, THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT, SO GET OVER IT!!! POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 06:26 pm / quote |
uberphreak
: First review very helpful and informative.
Second review... why did you even bother?
Anyway, good review first guy. I like this album personally but I DEFINITELY agree with you about the line in Disconnected, I thought the same thing.
And to the majority of these posters... 'different' doesn't mean 'bad' at all. In any way. It's one thing to have a preference for either the old or new stuff, but you can't argue against the fact that these guys have talent and the music is good.POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 06:32 pm / quote |
dimebag84
: I must admit I absolutely hated this at first, a total disappointment, especially the dreadful vocals. However the more you listen, you realise there are some nice acoustic melodies (a la old skool in flames) and solos on all but 1 song (which is more than last 3 albums put together!) For the old school fans, its very different, yet again, give it a chance, however, you will not love it, you will find it mediocre, as I have.
As first reviewer said, if you liked the sound on Come Clarity, then you will love this album. Basically, take this as a different band, dont compare it.
POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 06:49 pm / quote |
JRowe3388
: This album is great. Easily the best since Clayman. Hell, maybe better!
This album needs more than one listen to sink in. Give it time fellas!POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 07:06 pm / quote |
StoneColdCrazy
: Hey, never heard any In Flames but I am interested in them. I am not a fan of Death Metal vocals, would this album be a good place to start with them, and maybe slowly work backwards?? Just wondering. If anyone could help me out, it would be appreciated.POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 07:29 pm / quote |
drakenshadow
: i like this album. i don't really dislike any of their albums. i like them all. some more than others but i like them all.POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 07:58 pm / quote |
im not mental
: they got my hopes up after come clarity, but this album, while it had its moments, was quite a letdown.POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 08:16 pm / quote |
AXE187
: alias = best song on itPOSTED: 04/01/2008 - 08:26 pm / quote |
xXChimairaXx
: It just pisses me off that In Flames didn't really start getting popular until around the "Soundtrack to Your Escape" album, which they took a lot of heat for.
I don't mind that they changed into a more modern sound, but none of this stuff is even remotely impressive compared to the jester race/colony days. they were just amazing then. hopefully they'll play some of that stuff at gigantour \m/POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 09:16 pm / quote |
Ultimatemetal
: AXE187 wrote:
alias = best song on it |
I thought Im the highway was the bestPOSTED: 04/01/2008 - 09:51 pm / quote |
flame843
: StoneColdCrazy wrote:
Hey, never heard any In Flames but I am interested in them. I am not a fan of Death Metal vocals, would this album be a good place to start with them, and maybe slowly work backwards?? Just wondering. If anyone could help me out, it would be appreciated. |
Anders Friden screams a lot. He only did death metal growls on his first few albums with the band...on this album most of his vocals are sort of half-singing, half-screaming...it's actually pretty listenable vocal-wise, usually he's a little overbearing but not here.
If you start with this album, just bear in mind that a lot of people consider In Flames' heyday to be back in the nineties when their sound had more more metal and less rock to it. It's a fine album to start with but you'll probably end up liking their older stuff better.POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 10:00 pm / quote |
metallica72487
: heard some of it on myspace seems like a good album probally not as good as come clarity though but seems like it would be worth getting but i prefer there new sound over just doing death metal vocals all the time POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 10:11 pm / quote |
Harmonix123
: Honestly, I think the vocals in this album have improved. It's more likeable with the cleaner sound.POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 10:12 pm / quote |
metallica72487
: Savage Animal wrote:
lol april fools this album sucks |
she was living in a single room with three other individuals.
One of them was a male and the other two, well, the other two were females.
God only know what they were up to in there.
And furthermore susan, I wouldnt be the least bit surprised to learn that all four of them
Habitually smoke marijuana cigarettes... reefersPOSTED: 04/01/2008 - 10:15 pm / quote |
StoneColdCrazy
: thanks flame843, might go and have a listen to it. CheersPOSTED: 04/01/2008 - 11:01 pm / quote |
llanafreak44
: I LOVE old In Flames, but I LIKE new In Flames. The album was kind of repetitive sounding. The first two songs sound so similar in the choruses.POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 11:05 pm / quote |
rahnercore
: i jumped on the in flames bandwagon pretty late in the game (around the release of come clarity)...but after listening to older stuff and newer stuff...i gotta say, i like the newer stuff a little better. don't get me wrong, old stuff is kickass...i happen to like the direction they're going in nowPOSTED: 04/01/2008 - 11:22 pm / quote |
Mr. President
: What a well written review for such a horrible album.POSTED: 04/01/2008 - 11:48 pm / quote |
staind_dust87
: Why can't fans understand that people change and there music style and taste changes, In Flames will never sound like they did on The Jester Race, so get over it, if you hate everything they've done since there first CDs then your not much of a fan anyway. I like this new album, but I don't think it's not near as good as come clarity, which I think is one of the best metal albums ever. But still, good album.POSTED: 04/02/2008 - 12:22 am / quote |
IfDaysEnd
: duncang wrote:
Mate.Feed.Kill. wrote:
Matt_1213 wrote:
This album is brilliant. It makes me smile when the 'true death-metallers' rag on Flames for being 'generic', when they forget that they helped establish the genre in the first place. Doubtless they'll be posting below soon enough
In Flames didn't pioneer death metal, they helped pioneer in the gothenburg era but the certainly weren't the first (see Entombed, Dark Tranquility). I like the first better The Jester Races lyrics were amazing. I'm definitely gunna check it out as long as it isn't another soundtrack, which I'm hearing it might be.
Hah, since when did Entombed pioneer the Gothenburg sound? |
Anders was on Dark Tranquility...
They exchanged vocalists a long time ago...POSTED: 04/02/2008 - 01:18 am / quote |
Confetti
: flame843 wrote:
I dunno why you guys are saying it's so whiny |
Because we think so?POSTED: 04/02/2008 - 02:09 am / quote |
Matt_1213
: IfDaysEnd wrote:
duncang wrote:
Mate.Feed.Kill. wrote:
Matt_1213 wrote:
This album is brilliant. It makes me smile when the 'true death-metallers' rag on Flames for being 'generic', when they forget that they helped establish the genre in the first place. Doubtless they'll be posting below soon enough
In Flames didn't pioneer death metal, they helped pioneer in the gothenburg era but the certainly weren't the first (see Entombed, Dark Tranquility). I like the first better The Jester Races lyrics were amazing. I'm definitely gunna check it out as long as it isn't another soundtrack, which I'm hearing it might be.
Hah, since when did Entombed pioneer the Gothenburg sound?
Anders was on Dark Tranquility...
They exchanged vocalists a long time ago... |
I didn't say they were the only ones. But they certainly contributed.POSTED: 04/02/2008 - 05:20 am / quote |
Driven9
: I love that even the In Flames fan base can be critical of an ablum and still love it. i think it shows true fan-ship. to see fans growing with a band like In Flames is absolutly awsome. i give it a 8.5/10POSTED: 04/02/2008 - 11:12 am / quote |
danielrobbyshor
: I'm listening to it now.
and I like it.
its a long way from Come Clarity definitely.
I don't think it's better than Come Clarity though, Come Clarity was their best album to date. regardless of what you tr00 fans may thinkPOSTED: 04/02/2008 - 11:30 am / quote |
dopisen
: I like it, not as good as the colony times but its far more better than come clarity imo. Over and out.POSTED: 04/02/2008 - 01:45 pm / quote |
piratefdu
: I was pleasantly surprised by this album. Songs like I'm the Highway and Sober and Irrelevant (which IMO has the best opening riff ive heard from IF since Morhping into Primal) were standouts to me. They sort of re-added some of the cooler elements of the older stuff such as melody and harmony, but not enough of it. Theres some filler here, but its a decent album.POSTED: 04/02/2008 - 02:46 pm / quote |
flame843
: Confetti wrote:
flame843 wrote:
I dunno why you guys are saying it's so whiny
Because we think so? |
i.e. I don't know why you think it's so whiny.POSTED: 04/02/2008 - 05:32 pm / quote |
The JesterHead
: They say it's whiny because of the lyrics and the way Anders -sometimes- sings them. It can really be whiny, but in no way does that mean the album is bad, this album is great IMO.POSTED: 04/03/2008 - 09:05 am / quote |
KJKINFLAMES
: goin to see in flames april 30th so ill get to see the new album in full force mabey ill wright a review after .... good reviews. i personally enjoyed the album and will add it to the collection POSTED: 04/03/2008 - 10:33 pm / quote |
steve_a7x
: very good album, but not as good as previous albums.POSTED: 04/04/2008 - 07:24 am / quote |
The_Big_A
: Sounds pretty badass. i'll most defineitly have to go get it POSTED: 04/04/2008 - 09:20 am / quote |
TheAmenCorner89
: I've listened to the album once, it hasn't fully sunk in yet but it seems to be on a similar level to Come Clarity, as in not as good as the 1st five albums but still heading upwards. I don't think any of their albums are bad but I prefer the older stylings. I would say the album would be alot better if Anders didn't whine so much and actually did a proper growlPOSTED: 04/04/2008 - 11:12 am / quote |
y-e-a-r-z-e-r-o
: ok ... i come to you all as kind of a noob...
i was introdused to in flames with the album soundtrack to your escape and i liked it (mostly the quitet place, a touch of red and my sweet shadow) but then i got come clarity and i was obsessed with it for the longest time...i have scince gotten whoracle, clayman and colony (whoracle being my favorite) i was very excited to get the new in flames cd when i heard about it and i like it alot... Delight and Angers is my favorite .... the chosen pessimist WAS awsome ... and so was dissconected .... i guess im a big fan of anders' "whining", but if you want to bitch about whining go to fall out boy or hawthorne heights.... in flames is an amazing band...POSTED: 04/04/2008 - 12:59 pm / quote |
The JesterHead
: Well, ASOP is kinda like a combinations of all their albums from Lunar Strain to Come Clarity, which I think is pretty cool. It can please everyone in a certain amount, and is (along with Come Clarity) definetly their best work since Clayman. The guys are going in the right direction after a few (very) wrong turns, and I'm anxious to see how it will all turn out in the future POSTED: 04/04/2008 - 02:14 pm / quote |
salsawords
: Generally, the old stuff is much better than the new stuff. Come Clarity got stale for me after a couple weeks, and it is a bit whiny. Hopefully this album has some good solos, they've been lacking them since Clayman. By the way, am I the only one who love Soundtrack?POSTED: 04/04/2008 - 04:03 pm / quote |
spoonylove90
: just picked this up yesterday. seriously good. a solid 9/10 from me.POSTED: 04/04/2008 - 05:33 pm / quote |
GoWithTheFlow
: why cant heavy metal fans deal with change in a band. i can understand if the music starts to suck but when it changes and sounds fresh and new instead of predictable and overdone. lack of diversity is the downfall of music as we know it. Anyways i think im one of the few people who like almost all of in flames' music, new and old. of course they have some sucky stuff but so does everyone. yeah not going anywhere with this one. please dont ban me or unsheath your banhammers of banishment or whatever.POSTED: 04/05/2008 - 01:16 am / quote |
The JesterHead
: GoWithTheFlow wrote:
why cant heavy metal fans deal with change in a band. i can understand if the music starts to suck but when it changes and sounds fresh and new instead of predictable and overdone. lack of diversity is the downfall of music as we know it. Anyways i think im one of the few people who like almost all of in flames' music, new and old. of course they have some sucky stuff but so does everyone. yeah not going anywhere with this one. please dont ban me or unsheath your banhammers of banishment or whatever. |
Don't be ridiculous, man - everyone has a right to have his own opinion 
salsawords wrote:
Generally, the old stuff is much better than the new stuff. Come Clarity got stale for me after a couple weeks, and it is a bit whiny. Hopefully this album has some good solos, they've been lacking them since Clayman. By the way, am I the only one who love Soundtrack? |
You're not the only one who loves STYE... The thing about that album is the fact that In Flames made a sort of an album with a "more approachable" sound that can attract the masses. That's why all the "tr00 fans" hated it, because all In Flames represented from Lunar Strain to Clayman was kinda gone here... Thankfully, Come Clarity and ASOP seem to put them back in track POSTED: 04/05/2008 - 07:59 am / quote |
whatiaminstead
: personally, ive loved everything that In Flames has ever put out, though I do enjoy their old stuff more. But there are things about each album that i absolutely love and they have something for absolutely anyone. I think Purpose could have been more adventurous this time around (there was more intensity in Clarity) but its good to hear twin guitars again and im growing to love this album as well. POSTED: 04/05/2008 - 10:45 am / quote |
paperpl8
: better than CC...but i like all of their stuff, i do personally like the old lyrics better. although the phrase in disconected isnt very good at allPOSTED: 04/05/2008 - 09:16 pm / quote |
paperpl8
: edit: what i meant to say was..."i like all of their lyrics, but the old ones were better."POSTED: 04/05/2008 - 09:17 pm / quote |
The JesterHead
: paperpl8 wrote:
better than CC...but i like all of their stuff, i do personally like the old lyrics better. although the phrase in disconected isnt very good at all |
Yeah, I think those lines in Disconnected are the worst 10 seconds In Flames has ever created with their music... "I feel like shit, but at least I feel something" is really the worst shit they've ever written, although the rest of the song AND the album is really not bad...POSTED: 04/06/2008 - 04:09 am / quote |
JRowe3388
: The JesterHead wrote:
paperpl8 wrote:
better than CC...but i like all of their stuff, i do personally like the old lyrics better. although the phrase in disconected isnt very good at all
Yeah, I think those lines in Disconnected are the worst 10 seconds In Flames has ever created with their music... "I feel like shit, but at least I feel something" is really the worst shit they've ever written, although the rest of the song AND the album is really not bad... |
I don't see anything wrong with that line, really. At least he's not being emo and saying "I feel like shit, I wish I would die." He's saying he's glad to be alive even though he's in a tough spot
That's what I hear anyway. Wonderful album!POSTED: 04/07/2008 - 05:49 pm / quote |
Illiad86
: I love these guys, got the flame symbol tattooed on my arm and everything, but after hearing this album, I´m quite upset...wasn´t worth 15 bucks that´s for sure...I´m just so upset that EVERY song on the album has a whine cry cry chorus...what happened to the days of Lunar Strain and The Jester Race?? Did they just wussify themselves for someone? Come on...they are worse than Dark Tranquillity now...POSTED: 04/09/2008 - 03:55 pm / quote |
The JesterHead
: JRowe3388 wrote:
The JesterHead wrote:
paperpl8 wrote:
better than CC...but i like all of their stuff, i do personally like the old lyrics better. although the phrase in disconected isnt very good at all
Yeah, I think those lines in Disconnected are the worst 10 seconds In Flames has ever created with their music... "I feel like shit, but at least I feel something" is really the worst shit they've ever written, although the rest of the song AND the album is really not bad...
I don't see anything wrong with that line, really. At least he's not being emo and saying "I feel like shit, I wish I would die." He's saying he's glad to be alive even though he's in a tough spot
That's what I hear anyway. Wonderful album! |
Stood there leaning to the city moon,
casting silhouettes tall to grip her white rooms
the black-clad voyeur in his black-clad masque
in the serpentine sun of tragedy basked
Stood there cursing at the soul-dead mass
with their fabled illusions, the vain dreams that passed
splinters of a life rushing by in the whirl
alone, silent warrior in a fantasy world
He cried for night / but night could not come
so, swept in the shroud of misanthropia he went away
and fed the empty galleries
with the artifacts of the black rain
sunken into the shadows with a dry, sardonic smile
He made the footprints a part of his heart
to rouse a sacred confrontation
Stood there carving on the monument to lies
digging of the Earth, making friends with the soil
as the all-mother rises and bares her bleeding thighs
he disappears into her cold, icy womb
These are the kind of lyrics they used to have, and I wish they would have these lyrics again. It used to be art, fantasy, universal lyrics... It was powerful, beautiful and different. Today it's mostly Anders singing about himself, and I'm not sure that's what people want to hear...POSTED: 04/10/2008 - 08:58 am / quote |
Flamedmapletop
: What is it with you guys and saying if you like the jester race you won't like this? I love all the In Flames albums. From Lunar strain to A sense of purpose. I have never been able to say what In Flames album is the best, and I probably never will however, I can say this is the best in years. the melodies are back! slightly heavier vocals, Anders voice has improved. Its all good POSTED: 04/10/2008 - 04:37 pm / quote |
foreverconfined
: Wow. i gave you another chance to go back to whoracle and the jester race. and you failed. AGAIN. I offically hate anders and what in flames has become. What happened to classics like december flower? that is my favorite song of ALL time. and you ruined it. Thanks in flames. POSTED: 04/12/2008 - 07:25 pm / quote |
thecameronator
: i dont mind in flames further progressing their sound, but my preference would be (while still progressing their sound) if the vocals revisited old in flames, even if its just every now and then, and if anders used more of them great growls he very occasionally did on this album... also some more jester race style guitar... even if its just a little bit... god album nonethelessPOSTED: 04/15/2008 - 04:24 am / quote |
superjoint2112
: pretty good album, i like it more than come clarity and STYE but i definatly don't like it as much as there older stuff but i think it's still great and it hasnt left my cd player since i bought itPOSTED: 04/20/2008 - 12:16 am / quote |
staind_dust87
: Come Clarity was one of the best metal records I'd ever heard, but this just didn't live up to the hype. The entire "epic" feel this badn used to have is gone. But hey, still a decent album, I'm glad I bought it. POSTED: 04/21/2008 - 07:57 pm / quote |
GibsonTheGuitar
: All their material is awesome. Diverse, but awesome.POSTED: 05/02/2008 - 11:53 pm / quote |
I Walk Alone
: Anders should sing for CoB, they need a vocalist like him.
Anyways, I love this album (even though I only have 2 of their CDs). It's nothing like Lunar Strain but I can still thoroughly enjoy both albums.POSTED: 05/03/2008 - 10:33 pm / quote |
MHDrunk
: Why don't you guys put my review of this up hahaPOSTED: 05/04/2008 - 07:03 pm / quote |
Tumble-weed
: I'm really disappointed with this album. The clean vocals are just plain bad on this one. The guitars are much better but the songs really tend to sound the same and the vocals don't help at all. It's just way too poppy to be In Flames. I was listening to it wondering if I got the right CD. I just hope they'll release another album like Whoracle or The Jester Race...THE HIVE!!! \m/POSTED: 05/04/2008 - 07:42 pm / quote |
boyan89
: um MHDrunk if your review is so bright why the **** did you give it a 1 POSTED: 05/06/2008 - 03:31 pm / quote |
MHDrunk
: Because it's a joke, are you that retarded you thought I was serious?POSTED: 05/06/2008 - 10:10 pm / quote |
The JesterHead
: Oh, how I LOVE those uber true metalheads like you (puts finger in mouth and throws up)... And I'm VERY disappointed in Ultimate-Guitar for actually APPROVING this kind of review... Dude, if you wrote what's wrong with it, I wouldn't have a problem with that - but placing sarcastic jokes as an entire review... Not cool. I've seen reviews on the Metal Archives which totally sunk this album, and they're OK because these people have arguements (well, most of them anyway), and you could at least have wrote what's wrong with it instead of comparing it to Nu-Metal (which is really overreacting).POSTED: 05/11/2008 - 05:20 am / quote |
MHDrunk
: Whinge, whinge, whinge, The JesterHead. Lighten up.POSTED: 05/11/2008 - 10:00 pm / quote |
foreverconfined
: AHAHAHHAHAHA MHdrunk thats great! bring back The Jester racePOSTED: 05/20/2008 - 10:15 pm / quote |
boyan89
: i actually love this album its not like their other stuff but come on those guitar harmonies are like awesome and the drums are ****ing loud and thats what you need and the singing is very goodPOSTED: 06/10/2008 - 04:51 pm / quote |
The JesterHead
: Yeah, the harmonies are awesome... The only problem is - I CAN BARELY HEAR THEM! The sound on the guitars is really awful, sounds like some kind of synth... More distortion please!POSTED: 06/15/2008 - 08:29 am / quote |
reignofrock
: decent.. but nothing compared to the old works. never be back to good ol colony days, but its still better than a lot of other tunes coming out lately from other bands.POSTED: 06/27/2008 - 04:27 am / quote |
isabiggles
: LOL at MHdrunk.
I almost doubted your sarcasm.POSTED: 06/27/2008 - 06:09 am / quote |
Nycto
: I loved their old stuff. This album wasn't bad to me; maybe a 7.5/10. I'm not a big fan of the direction they're going, but for now I can still tolerate it.POSTED: 06/27/2008 - 10:43 am / quote |
sunofnothing4
: LMFAO!!!!! I love MHDrunk's sarcasm, that was ****ing great, I couldn't stop laughing not only at the review but at the album...POSTED: 06/27/2008 - 12:00 pm / quote |
whitesummer527
: Its because all their lyrics from Jester Race and Whoracle were written by the guitarist from Dark Tranquility. Anders didn't know a lot of English at the time and the two collaborated on the albums. The name of the dude eludes me, just wikipedia it and check the album creditsPOSTED: 06/27/2008 - 12:29 pm / quote |
yoozum
: I'm pretty surprised that this was pretty well reviewed overall, because everyone I've spoke to was disappointed (including myself). Sure, the composite rating was a 7.1, but it should have been higher if it hadn't been for people who gave it all "1"'s, which is not a serious review.POSTED: 06/27/2008 - 04:10 pm / quote |
Cannibalhell666
: I thought this album was .....ok I like In FLames old stuff like Lunar Strain Clayman Whorcale The Jester Race Colony but this album was ok to me but some bands do mature or not but I'm still a fan of In Flames =PPOSTED: 06/27/2008 - 04:34 pm / quote |
Eternal_One
: They are beyond the point of no return. Overly-polished "metal" and emo lyrics. *sigh*
Gone are the days of Whoracle and Lunar Jester Race.POSTED: 06/27/2008 - 05:44 pm / quote |
Eternal_One
: Lunar strain as well as Jester Race*
Wasn't concentrating sorryPOSTED: 06/27/2008 - 05:49 pm / quote |
IbanezFreak2112
: i just bought the album today and every song has the metal sound and the album artwork is a masterpiece none the less POSTED: 06/27/2008 - 05:57 pm / quote |
castoo
: MHdrunk, that was ****ing hilariousPOSTED: 06/27/2008 - 08:36 pm / quote |
farfaraway
: unbridled03 wrote:
I think it had a lot of promise but in MY opinion the vocals suck the creativity out of the songs with predictability. We all know there's going to be Anders singing in the choruses... They do make a better attempt at solos and some of the riffs are catchy, but I cannot get over the fact that sometimes Anders sounds like Jonathan Davis. Take for example "Alias" Listen to it and tell me it doesn't sound like Davis making a cameo. I'm not at all disappointed. I've realized that they will never make another "Colony" or "Whoracle". You just kinda have to take them as they are. | It's called a vocal harmony.
I couldn't stand all the reviewers saying ''The lyrics in Twisted Transistor have some weird pop music effect'.POSTED: 06/27/2008 - 09:05 pm / quote |
K!!LsWiTcH
: u either loved or hated this album. i am one of those who felt the former about a sense of purpose. they did reuse a lot of intro riffs though for this but still amazingPOSTED: 06/27/2008 - 10:37 pm / quote |
ShadowsThatMove
: I dont think that the review by Burning Angel should be taken seriously considering he/she is clearly an idiot for thinking 1 was the highest and 10 was the lowest. NOOB.POSTED: 06/28/2008 - 06:48 am / quote |
whatiaminstead
: i dunno, i read the review as absolute sarcasm and thought he meant to rate it as a shisno album. POSTED: 06/28/2008 - 05:27 pm / quote |
MetalFan4Life
: I read that one that had references to Korn, Linkin Park wand Limp Bizkit. ARE YOU OUT OF YOU MIND?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? No way in hell that Korn invented metal (That was Black Sabbath back in the late 60's), Linkin Park and Limp Bizkit suck, and if you like the album so much, why did you only give it a 1?POSTED: 06/28/2008 - 07:32 pm / quote |
JRowe3388
: MetalFan4Life wrote:
I read that one that had references to Korn, Linkin Park wand Limp Bizkit. ARE YOU OUT OF YOU MIND?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? No way in hell that Korn invented metal (That was Black Sabbath back in the late 60's), Linkin Park and Limp Bizkit suck, and if you like the album so much, why did you only give it a 1? |
Sarcasm. He needs to shut the **** up.POSTED: 06/28/2008 - 11:07 pm / quote |
Kevin67
: JRowe3388 wrote:
MetalFan4Life wrote:
I read that one that had references to Korn, Linkin Park wand Limp Bizkit. ARE YOU OUT OF YOU MIND?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? No way in hell that Korn invented metal (That was Black Sabbath back in the late 60's), Linkin Park and Limp Bizkit suck, and if you like the album so much, why did you only give it a 1?
Sarcasm. He needs to shut the **** up. |
I enjoyed reading it though it was quite hilarious.POSTED: 06/28/2008 - 11:36 pm / quote |
HolyDiver1118
: I thought that that review from MHDrunk too, but it took me a second to catch on that he was being sarcastic.
I really want to get into some more In Flames, so I think, just to be safe, I'll get ColonyPOSTED: 06/29/2008 - 12:47 am / quote |
Vanhanen
: I don't really like this album. My favorite In Flames album is Come ClarityPOSTED: 06/29/2008 - 02:26 pm / quote |
Sanitarium91
: Oh MHDrunk, you old elitist... you gave me a few laughs. I've never cared for this band and I still don't.POSTED: 06/29/2008 - 05:41 pm / quote |
Metalfan757
: This album has really grown on me and has definately become one of my favsPOSTED: 07/08/2008 - 05:51 pm / quote |
DesolationJD
: ummm ...
Suburban me has 1 of the best solos for In Flames ... its way underrated in my opinion ... The jester race,Colony,Clayman rock ...
this album is pretty good ... but not as good as their OLD GLORIOUS work ... infact i think it doesn even compete with come clarity POSTED: 08/03/2008 - 02:45 pm / quote |
zantimas
: As much of a masterpiece as A Sence of Purpose was, I definately think that it was missing some of that "in flames" touch to it. It was definately worth buying, but when compared to their earlier albums like come clarity, it just wasn Metal enough, so to say.POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 09:48 am / quote |
castoo
: Anders choked on dick this whole album
The guitars weren't even bad, but his singing? Och therePOSTED: 09/10/2008 - 04:58 pm / quote |
The JesterHead
: castoo wrote:
Anders choked on dick this whole album
The guitars weren't even bad, but his singing? Och there |
It's vice-versa. The vocals here are at least defined and developed, although they're nothing like his good ol' growl, but the guitars sound way too polished and cut-off, almost like a bloody synth...POSTED: 10/05/2008 - 08:40 am / quote |
The JesterHead
: Internal Chaos wrote:
Haha are you joking MH? |
You seriously didn't notice the sarcastic tone? It's his way of saying the album sucks...POSTED: 11/29/2008 - 02:44 am / quote |
Guttersniper
: people who gave this album a 1 are idiots.... comparing it to previous albums doesnt do justice to this album itself, people do that way too often these days, "this album doesnt sound the same as what i've already heard, so i dont like".... im sure alot of people would say they would love to have 5 jeser races, but if they did that you would bitch about how all their albums sound the same
quit bitching and enjoy the music for what it isPOSTED: 12/20/2008 - 12:42 pm / quote |
krook205
: i love all of in flames work, i think all their albums are great but this one wasn't as good as the others. I still think its a great album.POSTED: 12/28/2008 - 08:04 am / quote |
TatarSalad2
: I like this album. In Flames is doing what they want with their music. I'm not to fond of how the guitars sound, but I like what they are playing. It sounds like guitars, synths, drums, bass, and vocals have amalgamated into one sound, and it sounds great. POSTED: 01/29/2009 - 07:35 pm / quote |
Starforsaken
: A note about the lyrics. Anders didn't start writing the lyrics by himself until Clayman. Before that he either had help from Niklas Sundin or Niklas wrote all the lyrics.
So it's not much wonder that lyrics style change a lot on Clayman.POSTED: 02/26/2009 - 03:00 pm / quote |
Starforsaken
: I meant: the lyrical style has changed a lot since Clayman. POSTED: 02/26/2009 - 03:16 pm / quote |
castoo
: I think it's hilarious everyone busts over their old lyrics when whoracle has to have the shittiest lyrics
and colony and tjr aren't looking too good eitherPOSTED: 03/02/2009 - 12:50 pm / quote |
The JesterHead
: castoo wrote:
I think it's hilarious everyone busts over their old lyrics when whoracle has to have the shittiest lyrics
and colony and tjr aren't looking too good either |
And he does it once again! Dude, just... stop. Please.
Seriously, man - Whoracle has a friggin' message, a storyline even, and if your little brain can't understand the brilliance of those lyrics (if some weird words confuse you) then you're just not up for it. By your posts, I'm guessing you're like... 14 at best... Whoracle is a concept album which describes the past, present, and a hypothetical future of the planet Earth. It predicts the end and simply speaks of mankind's future fall.
The Jester Race? Quite similar, actually. Although the lyrics are a bit more fantasy-oriented.
Lesson of the day, castoo? If you don't understand a couple of words, doesn't mean the lyrics suck. It just means you have a lot of work to do on both your education and vocabulary.
Dude, I understand all this and I'm from goddamned Croatia. Doesn't that make you wonder just one bit?POSTED: 03/31/2009 - 08:03 am / quote |
irlindy
: A sense of purpose is the BEST In Flames album POSTED: 04/11/2009 - 04:09 pm / quote |
The JesterHead
: irlindy wrote:
A sense of purpose is the BEST In Flames album |
No it's not And this is not a matter of taste either ^^POSTED: 04/12/2009 - 10:16 am / quote |
castoo
: The JesterHead wrote:
castoo wrote:
I think it's hilarious everyone busts over their old lyrics when whoracle has to have the shittiest lyrics
and colony and tjr aren't looking too good either
And he does it once again! Dude, just... stop. Please.
Seriously, man - Whoracle has a friggin' message, a storyline even, and if your little brain can't understand the brilliance of those lyrics (if some weird words confuse you) then you're just not up for it. By your posts, I'm guessing you're like... 14 at best... Whoracle is a concept album which describes the past, present, and a hypothetical future of the planet Earth. It predicts the end and simply speaks of mankind's future fall.
The Jester Race? Quite similar, actually. Although the lyrics are a bit more fantasy-oriented.
Lesson of the day, castoo? If you don't understand a couple of words, doesn't mean the lyrics suck. It just means you have a lot of work to do on both your education and vocabulary.
Dude, I understand all this and I'm from goddamned Croatia. Doesn't that make you wonder just one bit? |
Lesson of the ****ing day- Ander's didn't know English well enough to write the lyrics in them, and somewhere in the translation they came out shit. Seisorgasmic? I can figure out what it means, but it's not a word. Parashoot my life? Realize I do own these cds and listen to them quite a bit. Doesn't mean the lyrics make sense (feel free to tell me what he's referring to when he says he'll rape your mother).
And yeah, if I wanted some fantasy music I would throw on rhapsody of fire.POSTED: 05/19/2009 - 03:51 pm / quote |
The JesterHead
: Oh Christ... Yeah, Niklas Sundin translated them, but they came out just the way they were supposed to. As a matter of fact, I understood the lyrics, yes. Some of these words are indeed made-up, and I even find that truly original. It takes time for one to realise their meaning, but believe me - it's there. Even the Dystopia ElectroHeart part, EVERYTHING on Whoracle has a meaning, as is on other albums.
Your problem is that you look at one phrase instead of trying to see how it fits in the whole image, the whole verse. Dude, one line itself might not have any meaning, but when you look at the whole verse - you get the meaning.
And that line "But think as I rape your mother" really does ruin the song a bit, but only because it sounds kinda... shocking. In Flames fans who really know and explore their lyrics can understand that "Mother" often refers to Mother Earth. Now try to look at the entire song, with that in mind, and you just might solve the puzzle of what it's about.
In Flames have always had complicated lyrics filled with metaphor. I dare say they use expressions clear only to them while expressing some thoughts. Later albums are pretty much direct when it comes to lyrics, very simple, but hey - they did start to lose their magic after Colony/Clayman. That mysterious factor was what once made In Flames such an awesome band.POSTED: 05/23/2009 - 08:32 am / quote |
vIsIbleNoIsE
: anywhoo...they've become more "poppy," no doubt about that.POSTED: 08/21/2009 - 11:50 pm / quote |
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