Released: May 26, 2009
Genre: Alternative Rock / Industrial Metal / Glam Rock
Label: Interscope
Number Of Tracks: 15
Ever controversial, shock rocker Marilyn Manson brings bassist Twiggy Ramirez back into the fold and explores the industrial roots that made us love him in the first place.
The High End Of LowFeatured review by: UG Team, on may 26, 2009 6 of 7 people found this review helpful
Sound: Marilyn Manson has done nothing if not evolve over the course of his headline-grabbing career. He’s adopted a David Bowie-esque persona, sliced himself up on stage and been blamed for school shootings and for encouraging the disaffected youth. That’s all beside the point. Manson’s main mission is making raw, mechanical, industrial-influenced hard rock. He’s gotten back to that basic tenet of his sound on The High End of Low. There’s a few polished moments here and there – like “Leave a Scar” and “15” –but he also slashes and burns with the in-your-face, both lyrically and musically, “Pretty as a Swastika” and “Arma-Goddamn-Motherf--kin-Geddon.” Manson isn’t attempting to play nice. He’s brought bassist Twiggy Ramirez back into the fold, which has reignited some of his old, semi-dormant anger. These two bring out the worst, and we mean that in the best possible way, in one another. Manson proudly lets his scraggly, industrial roots show on “Blank and White,” while “Four Rusted Horses” is influenced by the drug-dusted, Mechanical Animals-era of his career. // 8
Lyrics and Singing: Manson – Brian Warner to his momma- isn’t holding back, but then again, did we expect him to? He’s talking swastikas, leaving scars, stupid teenage girls and a host of other topics that will have the Christian right wing faction hitting the roof and popping gaskets. He’s not just looking for the cheap thrill, though; he’s posing questions about how numb we’ve become to all the shit we see on the local evening news, where human beings are switched out in favor of being a nameless, faceless statistic. Manson bleeds on this record and that’s just how we like it. // 8
Impression: Not as gnarly as Antichrist Superstar and not nearly as eccentric as Mechanical Animals, The High End of Low is certainly more memorable than, say, Holy Wood or even Eat Me, Drink Me. Ramirez must be the catalyst sparking Manson’s creative drive and gears, because he hasn’t sounded this delightfully or determinedly pissed if in quote a long time. Manson is retrofitted to his groove on The High End of Low so let’s hope he continues down this path for the next few years. Even though he hasn’t really fallen from grace, he’s certainly rebounding, musically-speaking, with The High End of Low, which does dip here and there with a few slow-tempo, melancholic songs like the haunting, ballad-like “Running to the Edge of the world.” But even the more maudlin songs retain Manson’s edge. The High End of Low may confound some, with its alternating current of hope and despair, but diehard Manson’ites will click with this album with fevered passion. // 8
The High End Of Low
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NicholasConners, on may 10, 2010 0 of 0 people found this review helpful
Sound: The High End of Low is the seventh Studio album released by the rock band known as Marilyn Manson. A band with a singer synonymous for being blamed for the violence and deaths seen worldwide on your very television screens. Though the target of religious scapegoating, the band has made it through thick and thin, and with The High End of Low, show that they are still one of the strongest bands out there.
The High End of Low was created during a rough time in Manson's life, having lived alone, and in near exile for months during the creation of this dark, haunting piece. It follows his story from a near homocide/suicide to the revelation of self-discovery and the listeners are dragged along the journey like Jesus to the cross.
The sound of the album is incredibly raw, reflecting his emotion and suffering infused lyrics and riffs that burn any heart drawn near. As raw as it is, it is fortunately not as overly produced as the previous album "EAT ME, DRINK ME", and has almost a type of quality to the instruments as did in the very Coma-Enducing "Mechanical Animals."
Even so, some of the qualities lower when Manson's voice scrapes the sound walls that could have been better produced to prevent. // 7
Lyrics and Singing: The lyrics to this album describe the story, almost like that of Satan brings brought down from Heaven, crashing into to hell with a painful scream and thud. Marilyn Manson describes how, having cut off his wings to be with the one he loves, it ultimately destroys what made him special in the first place. This idea is reflected heavily in the track Manson start's just the very howl that would deter any rapist werewolves as he crashes through the layers of hell, titled "I Have To Look Up Just To See Hell".
The music and the lyrics play well together in this album, unlike EM,DM, which seemed to go better as an instrumental piece, rather than coupled with the pained lyrics of a broken man. And although The High End Of Low is not Marilyn Manson at his lyrical best, it does show he is still alble to bust out his wit and vitriol to match the equally devastatingly marvelous riffs of returning band member Twiggy Ramirez -- Jeordie White.
His most lyrically stunning tracks, as I would suggest, are "Leave A Scar", "Four Rusted Horses", "Arma-Goddamn-Motherfuckin'-Geddon", "Running To The Edge Of The World", "I Want To Kill You Like They Do In The Movies", "We're From America", "Wight Spider", "I Have To Look Up Just To See Hell", "Into The Fire", and "15".
These tracks, I felt, really had a deeper meaning and feeling inside of the lyrics that drove them, even the very open-sore lyrics of A-G-M-G. Were they his best? No. But it shows he has still not lost the ability to manipulate the english language into a configuration of brutal, and utter passion. // 7
Impression: The High End of Low is no Tryptich album. It can not beat the likes of AntiChrist Superstar, HolyWood, or their sonically best - Mechanical Animals. But it is an album that shows a band re-emersing themselves in what made them a band in the first place. Revitalizing the dark spirit of the band's essence, this album is a stepping stone to what the future holds for the now label-free rock band. Free to torture our begging souls with his haunting lyrics, Twiggy's powerful riffs, and more wonderful artistis pieces from a band that has never once done the same album twice, like some artists that do not know how to evolve over time and eventually run stale.
The album is strong, it signals the return of Twiggy, and he makes that return with a great impact like an asteroid to the Earth. Rocking and shaking the very foundation of what we knew of the band to its core only to create something even more invigorating and promising. But even so, it has a lot to be desired, which may hinder some listeners love for the more heavier, or lyrically efficient Manson they knew back from ACS to Golden Age.
I recommend you purchase this album and listen to it fully. The High End of Low truly lives up to its name as there can be nothing but higher levels of artistic achievements for the band from here on out now that the low points that occured, and nearly destroyed the band during the eras of Lest We Forget and EM,DM are finally behind them. // 8
The High End Of Low
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unregistered, on july 13, 2009 0 of 0 people found this review helpful
Sound: Gosh, I would first like to start off by saying what a great comeback from "Eat me Drink me". I could not even get past the 3rd song on that album. Now that Twiggy is back, the two can focus on their sound more than he could with John 5. He seems to be experimenting with what he like's and what he isn't sure about. The track that caught my attention the most was the song "15". It seems like a slow hip hop ballad, however it still feels like a rock song. Another song that caught my attention was "Devour". I have been waiting a long time for another great Manson riff like this one. The main riff is very suttle, but at the same time, somewhat creepy. // 7
Lyrics and Singing: I'm not blown away by the lyrics, but at least this time hes not crying about his ex girlfriends... As much. It seems like he made a few attempts at his "shock rock" factor, however did not conjure any shock for me. The most shocking song on the album is "We're from America" which depicts what America really is....disaster. Sorry but there is no shock in this album. If he would of released this album in the mid 90's people would be freaking due to songs like "As Pretty as a Swastika" and "Arma-Goddamn-Motherf--king-Geddon", then released Anti-Christ Superstar Today, people would be even more shocked. I just recently pulled out that album and listened to it and found my self scared and shocked with some from that album, but then I remembered, he lost all that in a matter of years. // 5
Impression: The album defiantly is not a "AntiChrist Superstar" or a "Holywood" but it is still a somewhat good album. There are some songs that are pretty good, an example would be "Into the Fire", which is Manson's first real ballad. However songs like "WoW" and "I want to kill you like they do in the Movies" are terrible. I would say buy some songs on itunes, but buying album isnt really worth it, unless your big Manson fan and want to keep collecting his album. I bought the Deluxe Edition with 6 alternate versions of songs on the album. These were more impressive than the original versions. So I guess this album doesn't hit a bang as much as I would like it to, but it is still a alright album. // 7
The High End Of Low
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guitaluva17, on may 27, 2009 0 of 0 people found this review helpful
Sound: I got news for all you people out there: Manson is back! This record recovers his career from his previous, sub-par album, Eat Me Drink Me. The best way to describe this album is a mix of Mechanical Animals and Holy Wood with a little Golden Age thrown in. Twiggy's guitar is loud and blarin' and sounding great. He performs a very emotional solo on Into The Fire. Unfortunately, the sound of the record is slightly damaged by trachs like WOW, which I see to be a NIN rip-off, and 15, which has incredibly annoying vocals. Also, I Want To Kill You... Is a 9 minute bore-fest. Overall, the sound was very impressive. // 9
Lyrics and Singing: Here's my problem with the lyrics on this album: they're very self-centered. There's no great protest songs like The Fight Song or The Love Song. Although, the album does have bursts of great lyrics, such as in the track Devour where Manson repeatedly screams, "I can't sleep until I devour you!" Other great lyrical highlights are two ballads on the album, Into The Fire and Running To The Edge of The World. // 7
Impression: This is Manson's best album since Holy Wood (which isn't really saying much). The best tracks on the album are the abrasive Pretty As A Swastika, the sad ballad Into The Fire, and the opening track Devour. With once listen, this album can easily be dismissed, but after a few listens, it can really grow on you. If you liked the first 4 Manson albums, you'll like this album. The big thing I dislike about it is that Manson put tracks on it like WOW and I Want To Kill You. If it were lost or stolen, I'd buy it back again within a day or two. // 8
look, i don't mean to sound like a 12 year old here, but im a manson fan (or was). i didn't mind Eat me, Drink me, because tim skold pulled it through with his beautiful soloing, but from what i've heard from this, its horrible. There is nothing industrial about it, its just.... I can't even explain how painful it is to hear him turn into this.
Manson hasn't really been great since 2001's HolyWood. This is just proof that he's slipping farther away from the fans who bought into him and supported him in the beginning.
Dunno what you guys are talking about. The one song I've heard (Arma-Goddamn-Motherf***ing-Geddon) was really good in my eyes, has the catchy-ness which made me love Manson in the first place
yea i think this is a big improvement from Eat Me Drink Me which was seriously different from good old Marilyn..
Listen to We're From America you'll like it
I do believe Antichrist superstar Mechanical and Hollywood are the best albums he did, you are speaking about Eat me drink me as shit but did you forget Golden age of grotesque ? worst of all.
The real good Manson is gone (probably to get more money), even if i still listen each new albums when they came out. He is and he will be always a good inspiration to me.
I do believe Antichrist superstar Mechanical and Hollywood are the best albums he did, you are speaking about Eat me drink me as shit but did you forget Golden age of grotesque ? worst of all.
The real good Manson is gone (probably to get more money), even if i still listen each new albums when they came out. He is and he will be always a good inspiration to me.
God of Fuck
True... The only work he ever did that was worth recognizing was antichrist superstar and portrait. Beyond that, he became self indulgent, tired and ultimately flawed - Like most rock&rollers, as soon as they lay off the drugs and get married, they suck balls.
He was in a league of his own 'til he went and shot himself in the foot. Still, if he can STILL manage to piss off the conservatives, I'm still going to attend his shows whenever I can.
I'm dissapointed with this album. Its not political at all, its more about how angry he is at women. Its a shame that the music is so good, yet his lyrics are very poor compared to such greats as Coma White and The Beautiful People. Still it has its moments.
the way i think about it, mansons old spark and way with good music was the demon in him, all of his satanic music and shit made his songs hardcore and straight up headcrushing.. he had started losing it on mechanical animals, tryig for a different sound instead of not giving a ****, same with holy wood, but on golden age of grotesque, in his top song of the album he anounces that he is basicaly saying **** the old shit. "everything has been said before nothing left to say anymore" and "this is the new shit" the way i see it manson will never be the good ol' demonic satanic manson that he used to be, therefore his music will forever suck ass!!
Ok first of all has everybody forgotten about portrait of an american family. Or the Spooky Kids era. Those in my opinion were his best. Yeah Antichrist was good and Mechanical was good to. But as far as Eat me Drink me goes it was shit! And Golden Age wasn't that much better. More importantly Tim Skold can never replace Twiggy Or even Gidget Gein (Rip.) I really hope High end of Low dosen't blow. I'v herd a few of the new ones and not bad, but we will see.
so i'm pretty sure I'm the only one that hasn't heard he had a new CD till now...
I personally liked all of his stuff except eat me drink me. Being the first hard-rock-ish band I think I ever enjoyed, I'm going to faithfully give it a listen, as he definately opened the gate to some of my favorite types of music today.
[x]Huffy[x] wrote:
imo it completely destroys Eat Me, Drink Me and Golden Age.
Agreed, those albums sound like the purley commercial panderings they will most likley be remembered for. The High End of Low actually sounds like Manson's first honest attempt at a "neo-classical" sound (similar to Bowie's last two albums) that goes back to what made the band's music work, while taking enough chances & new ideas to make it a worthwile listen,
As I knew it would, having Twiggy Rameriez again made all the difference, & if you take out "Scar", "Unkillable Monster" (both pop pandering songs), & maybe even "WoW" (interesting song, but sounds like a b-side & doesn't fit in with the rest of the album), & the underwhelming last-track "15", & replace a few songs with some of the alternate versions from the bonus cd (both versions of Four Rusted Horses are great, but replacing the acoustic versions of Four Rusted Horses & Into The Fire with their more electric versions makes the album far more balanced), the cd sounds like the nephew to Mechanical Animals.
Manson sounds like a lot more like Manson again, without as much self-indulgent "reflection" found on Eat Me Drink Me, & a more humble tone than found on Golden Age Of Grotesque. There were moments listening to the album where I was genuinely "into" the music (especially on the un-official title track "I have to look up just to see hell", "devour", "four rusted horses", & the refreshingly more hardcore "blank & white"), of which, I can barley recall such moments on the past 2 albums.
THEOL has more focus on the music itself, while taking some needed risks to keep things interesting.
Having one of the original band members that made your band great in the first place is never a bad thing, & this album proves that the next they make could easily be the comeback fans have been hoping for.
i know..im embarrased that i used to be a manson fan when i was 13(before i knew any better)
Before you knew any better?
Yet still you are reading a review for his new album...
So far I've only heard pretty like a swastika, and it wasn't bad.
I'll buy this as soon as I can
So this is why he's headlining Mayhem Fest this year. I was wondering why he was on the bill yesterday because he hadn't (to my knowledge at the time) put out anything new in a few years.
Just bought the new album. Wow, what a difference from Eat Me, Drink Me. This is by far some of the most melodic stuff from Manson I've ever heard. I'm not going to call it "accessible" to anybody, but this is definitely one of the easiest Manson albums to listen to. In other words, you'll like it the first time you hear it. That's not to say he leaves his staple angst, wit, and sarcasm behind — the album is plenty hard and angry. It's just that somewhere in the whole process, the band found a melodic structure to their stuff. I have no doubts that Twiggy was instrumental in this development. The harsh, industrial sounds abound as well. As far as the lyrics are concerned, Manson doesn't miss a beat. He serves up another offering of clever (and extremely irreverent) lines that are sure to be taken literally and quoted by all the parties that want to blame him for the latest tragedy. If you ever liked Manson in the past, don't miss this one.
In my opinion Mechanical Animals is his best album. It is the most musically sophisticated and has the most interesting lyrics. Furthermore, it has long been my contention (I used to have arguements with people about this kind of thing in highschool) that Marilyn Manson is primarily a pop band - the preponderance of his songs have that familiar verse-chorus-vers-chorus-bridge-chorus-chorus structure, and he displays a persistent interest in catchy melodies and memorable hooks. He's like a modern day version of The Sweet or something. And I think MM has been pretty up front about this, both with comments made in interviews and with the type of songs he chooses to cover which are typically 80's pop songs dating all the way back to "Down In the Park" off the Lunchbox EP. His albums have been trending in a more commercial direction for many years - and yet the quality is variable. Why? I've heard a few songs off this album and they sound more like Mechanical Animals/Holywood era stuff than GAOG or EMDM. I therefore have concluded that Twiggy Ramirez is a better songwriter (or at least, works better with MM) than Tim Skold. It makes me wonder what would happen if other old members of the band would join back up - John 5 for instance, or Gacy (he is gone isn't he?) Anyway, I'll be buying this album later today and I expect it to be pretty good, possibly his best in years.
I've heard every song off of the new album on his myspace, and I have been satisfied with it. It's not Portriat of an American Family,nor is it Hollywood or Golden Age, every one of his cd's have a different sound to it. That's obvious. The music is industrial, because you can hear the NIN influence that Twiggy and Vrenna brought in making it. Songs like Arma-goddamn-mother****ing-geddon are the heavy semi Similar Anti Christ superstar songs in the sence of sound. The only songs I thought were disapointing were Wow and 15.
I personally believe that this is a great piece of work from Manson. What you all seem to forget is that if he would have made an album that was just like Antichrist Superstar you would have just complained that he cant make anything else yet when he makes something different you have a go at him for it not being like his other albums. Why the need to compare all the time? People change and new things and issues come up for people to write about-its nice to hear him singing about things so personal to him-i love all of his work but it felt like we only knew his personal beliefs regarding politics etc and not the real, raw soul that he is. Plus hes entitled to make exactly what he wants to make. We're all entitled to your opinions but until anyone of us have had a successful career like he has then we're not really in a position to complain really and to anyone that doesnt make music that says his albums are shit then maybe they should stop bitching, learn how to play and then make their own music and see how hard it is. But well done to MM for a great album. The track Devour is simply beautiful.
As far as making this his most extreme album like he said he would, he [obviously] failed to do that. But as far as improving from the past two albums, he accomplished that. Both Eat Me, Drink Me and Golden Age were polished and over produced. His best albums are, from my opinion, Antichrist and Mechanical, with some decent tracks from Holywood. I feel that Manson has gone back even further than Mechanical or Antichrist, back to Portrait type of music, with a less distorted but messier sound. The music is definitely not for moshing, but it is different, and not everything has to be heavy. The lyrics though, could use some work, since I feel that he repeats some lines a bit too much. Otherwise, it is a decent album, not his best or most extreme, but definitely a step up. SEE YOU AT MAYHEM!
From what I have heard so far, 5 of the tracks, it sounds like Portrait meets Antichrist Superstar, the guitar tones are nice, sound very classic-esque, not overly distorted. I really like what I hear.
The real Marilyn Manson is the one in 1995 with the long hair and the heavy metal attitude. The first few albums were great heavy metal until mechanical animals.Then the worst part was when he released Eat Me Drink Me which was an absolute shitty emo romantic album.He has ****ed himself up.
I, like i'm sure most everyone else, had heard the leaked tracks floating around before the release. Those tracks really didn't get my hopes up.
I went out and bought this and I can say that hey, it's definitely Marilyn Manson. This is easily the 4th best in the catalogue after Antichrist, Mechanical then Holywood.
Golden Age and that god awful Eat Me Drink Me were horrible. You know it and I know it. That was just Manson going solo and rambling on. And **** Tim Skold. Something wrong with you people if you even for a second thought he contributed anything to "Marilyn Manson" the band.
Anyway, The High End Of Low is quite a high point in what has been nothing but low points for the last couple years for Manson. I've been listening since Portrait and dudes, this is pure Manson.
Well i love it. I don't know how anyone can bag him out at all, Since day one he has evolved while keeping his original sound and attitude. Isn't that what any great artist should be doing? Or should he just limit himself by reproducing the same thing over and over again.... Enough said.
This is album is not worth your time if you planned on buying it. There are two good songs on the album. The album is way too much like Eat Me, Drink Me, and is therefore worthless to any die-hard Manson fan. I mean granted, these people would like anything he does, but the album is really not worth your time. It's horrible.
Throwdown666 wrote:
Well i love it. I don't know how anyone can bag him out at all, Since day one he has evolved while keeping his original sound and attitude. Isn't that what any great artist should be doing? Or should he just limit himself by reproducing the same thing over and over again.... Enough said.
He doesn't have the same sound or attitude anymore. He's become a pussy and his sound has dramatically fallen downward. He can evolve but he's become a huge PUSSY. His music is really whiny. It's not like he used to be at all. He's soft. Worthless.
i heard all the album and deluxe(japanese version) n its ok he did kinda ****ed up sum song like i wanna kill you like the do in the movies horribly songs, but the alternativve versions in deluxe were awesome so in all the album a good 8/10
i havent heard the album nor am a fan of mansons but someone said he was satanic, which tells me you must be braindead. Why do people on this site have such a large problem with a change in sound btw. Most people here just shrug off w.e an artist puts out if its an evolution.
it's shit.
an 8? i wonder how much you're getting paid.
I would've given this album an 8 if it didn't have some rather terrible songs (unkillable monster, wow, 15, & leave a scar, & maybe if we're from america wasn't as repetititous, & i wanna kill you like they do in the movies was only about 5 1/2 minutes long versus 9 minutes long) on it, honestly.
I would give this a 6 as is, but the previous two albums 3 or 4's. I'm cautiously optimistic it's a step in the right direction, though. Blank & White was a rather promising moment that even older fans could appreciate, methinks.
Great Album. feels like Antichrist Superstar and has Holy Wood and Mechanical Animals 'feels' in certain songs. yeah i like this. i give MM credit for this one. nice work. i like the mood... And to any mother ****ers that say this album is shit. quit living in the past and EMBRACE the new sound.
I bought the album today and i think it's pretty good. He does change as time goes on obviously and I don't think he'll return to his Antichrist Superstar kick arse days but we might as well embrace what he has to offer. Twiggy's back which is great. All they need now is John5 and Gacy like the Holywood days but I don't think that will happen. The standout track for me is 'We're from America'. i thought the bass line kicks arse and the lyrics typical Manson. At the end of the day i'm a die-hard Manson fan til I die! Rock on
I think, us fans, we have 2 like, every cd he make! but of course we miss "Antichrist Superstar" EPIC ERA in metal history! we cant deny that! MM is one of my hereos! thanks 4 exist! thats all ... bye
the album itself is quite indullgent. like when i am listening i am hearing the doors, bowie and of course iggy pop influence. it's been 4 days since it has been released out here in canada. the songs are quite enjoyable a return to his former glory with a touch of something new. there isn't a song on the album i don't enjoy. i really like musically feel to the high end of low. true that antichrist superstar days are passed but they come close if they work with rick rubin. rick rubin is a legand. rubin could bring manson's lyrical fire back. i don't see this as manson last album as some magzenes have pegged it. it is just the beggining.
the album itself is quite indullgent. like when i am listening i am hearing the doors, bowie and of course iggy pop influence. it's been 4 days since it has been released out here in canada. the songs are quite enjoyable a return to his former glory with a touch of something new. there isn't a song on the album i don't enjoy. i really like musically feel to the high end of low. true that antichrist superstar days are passed but they come close if they work with rick rubin. rick rubin is a legand. rubin could bring manson's lyrical fire back. i don't see this as manson last album as some magzenes have pegged it. it is just the beggining.
AGREED!! And if Manson could somehow get the Holy Wood era line up back, then make the next album so damn good that its arguably better than Antichrist and Holy Wood. Then that would be a killer career ender. totally. But then again he probably wont end it and just continue to evolve! Man... that would b the shit!!
the album itself is quite indullgent. like when i am listening i am hearing the doors, bowie and of course iggy pop influence. it's been 4 days since it has been released out here in canada. the songs are quite enjoyable a return to his former glory with a touch of something new. there isn't a song on the album i don't enjoy. i really like musically feel to the high end of low. true that antichrist superstar days are passed but they come close if they work with rick rubin. rick rubin is a legand. rubin could bring manson's lyrical fire back. i don't see this as manson last album as some magzenes have pegged it. it is just the beggining.
AGREED!! And if Manson could somehow get the Holy Wood era line up back, then make the next album so damn good that its arguably better than Antichrist and Holy Wood. Then that would be a killer career ender. totally. But then again he probably wont end it and just continue to evolve! Man... that would b the shit!!
i doubt john5 is coming back because of the altercation at rock i am 2003. though they patched up better terms don't seeing happening seeing as john5 is having the time of his life with rob zombie.
i doubt we will see pogo back seeing as he is sueing manson. even though pogo breached contract with manson and according to manson last time he worked on an album was holly wood. chris vrenna is way better then pogo and adds to band. not only as good keyboardest and producer but as a drummer. chris is responible for nine inch nails drum sound. if they do get a new guitarist i would most likely go with past member Mark Chaussee. added something great when he played like best example was hearing him play great big white world. manson himself said he wanted to write songs with him. i saw mark live a few years ago and wow just watching and hearing him was incredible. i think he could add something to the band to make it even stronger now they got twiggy back.
At first i felt dissapointed in this album, but after a few listens i really like it now. Excluding a couple tracks this is a very solid overall album. I really dont understand why in both of the reviews they say Holy Wood was bad... thats my favorite album, then antichrist, mechanical, then this album. Alot of people are knocking this album down a little too much, i can see why some people may not like it because they are expecting it to be like former greatness, but they way his past couple albums have gone this is a huge step forward
I will have to agree with the post above me. Holywood was probably one of the best. Would it not have been awesome to have an Antichrist Superstar-come- Holywood? Before the album was releases, i followed Manson's "comments" about how much it would be like Anitshrist Superstar. I must say though, it isnt. Its too self-indulgent and the use of the word "you" is all over the place, as if about some girl. I do love the album (i wont ever hate a manson album, unless its Smells like Children), but I was expecting something more comparable to the likes of The Angel With The Scabbed Wings...
Lets hope he gets his political rawness back and he releases Antichrist Superstar in a new flavour!
Still, Manson has been very influential to me and my music, views on the media and all sorts of other crap. To those who havent listened to it yet, stop reading this and take a listen!
a new guitarist i would most likely go with past member Mark Chaussee. added something great when he played like best example was hearing him play great big white world. manson himself said he wanted to write songs with him. i saw mark live a few years ago and wow just watching and hearing him was incredible. i think he could add something to the band to make it even stronger now they got twiggy back.[/quote] Hmmmm... interesting.... We'll see wat happens then. Mabye Mark will be the new live guitarist as well. Chris did do a cool job on high end of low too. tracks like WOW etc.. (BTW my real names Mark lol)
Hey everyone,
this album is really controversial. I love Mechanical Animals, Holy Wood is also great. I REALLY love his biggest rock album Eat Me, Drink Me, every song if you ask me and those great solos! The best album for me. This album is strange. There are some memorable harsh liveful songs, there are sad slow ballads and I could even catch feeling like "Marilyn Manson meets Johny Cash". Many people consider this album as Mansons one of the bests, other says its pure shit. In the first listening I was quite dissapointed, because English is not my native language and I rather enjoy music firstly and then I see how are the lyrics. This album is good and as usuall, it is very different than his other releases. It is very minimalistic, which is maybe the problem. If you think this will be your good ol industrial shock rock, give yourself a cold shower... I like this album. You need a time to get into, and if you put together lyrics + music, it is nice mix to relax, or to have more romantical evening with your Girl/Boyfriend. IF you wanna hear some really good music, choose moody Mechanical Animals or Eat Me, Drink Me. Greetings from Czech.
I was disapointed after reading the reviews I thought it would be worth gettng but I think that it hasn;t got the appeal that other albums have got. Holywood and before I like and even Golden age but the last 2 have really missed the mark. The lyrics are the thing that annoys me most on this. They seem a bit "try-hard" or childish. Not the near the quality of Potrait or Antichrist
small problem with that second review, twiggy doesnt have a guitar solo for one very important reason.... twiggy ramirez ladies and gentlemen is a bassist! great to know theres people out there who apparently barely know a band and think they can write a review ah well, maybe theyre cheaper during a recession
Personally, I'm sick of everyone bashing this album. You think you can write a better album and be better than Manson--then go f*cking do it! I think the album again shows a different side of Manson, as almost every album he's ever written has. Until one of you pansy-ass bashers write an album that garners half the success or attention as a Manson album, SHUT THE F*CK UP. it just jealousy that drives and fuels you all.
I just hope that he'll sort his shit out, takes it easy with the drugs and starts to kick ass on stage like he used to. To me Marilyn Manson is more about the live, in concert experience than the albums.
look, let's be honest, in order to truly know manson you should have been 16 or older and an avid music listener between 1994-1996. EMDM and HEOL, when compared to POAAM/ACSS/MA, which yes, were the albums that brought millions of his fans to the table, are flat out terrible. Devour and Wight Spider are the only truly respectable songs on the entire album. i mean, give me a break, the second song sounds like a STP song! nothing crushes your senses anymore. there is no more hard pounding shock rock. Twiggy is a legend, but again let's be honest, he was softened while he played with a perfect circle. this is not the same twiggy, and not the same manson that put out the first three albums. and then there is the loss of John5...i have listened to HEOL about five times through and can barely make it through about 6 of the 15 songs. for the first time in 14-15 years, i am actually contemplating to skip manson's tour this summer b/c of how horrible this album is, again, compared to what brought me to the table as a fan of manson back in 1995 with POAAM/ACS/MA.
look, let's be honest, in order to truly know manson you should have been 16 or older and an avid music listener between 1994-1996. EMDM and HEOL, when compared to POAAM/ACSS/MA, which yes, were the albums that brought millions of his fans to the table, are flat out terrible. Devour and Wight Spider are the only truly respectable songs on the entire album. i mean, give me a break, the second song sounds like a STP song! nothing crushes your senses anymore. there is no more hard pounding shock rock. Twiggy is a legend, but again let's be honest, he was softened while he played with a perfect circle. this is not the same twiggy, and not the same manson that put out the first three albums. and then there is the loss of John5...i have listened to HEOL about five times through and can barely make it through about 6 of the 15 songs. for the first time in 14-15 years, i am actually contemplating to skip manson's tour this summer b/c of how horrible this album is, again, compared to what brought me to the table as a fan of manson back in 1995 with POAAM/ACS/MA.
Come to think of it in this perspective... i sorta agree... unfortunately.....
look, let's be honest, in order to truly know manson you should have been 16 or older and an avid music listener between 1994-1996. EMDM and HEOL, when compared to POAAM/ACSS/MA, which yes, were the albums that brought millions of his fans to the table, are flat out terrible. Devour and Wight Spider are the only truly respectable songs on the entire album. i mean, give me a break, the second song sounds like a STP song! nothing crushes your senses anymore. there is no more hard pounding shock rock. Twiggy is a legend, but again let's be honest, he was softened while he played with a perfect circle. this is not the same twiggy, and not the same manson that put out the first three albums. and then there is the loss of John5...i have listened to HEOL about five times through and can barely make it through about 6 of the 15 songs. for the first time in 14-15 years, i am actually contemplating to skip manson's tour this summer b/c of how horrible this album is, again, compared to what brought me to the table as a fan of manson back in 1995 with POAAM/ACS/MA.
Come to think of it in this perspective... i sorta agree... unfortunately.....
I hate it when people [especially fans] compare an artists works to their previous ones. At least in a sense where you're trying to grade the piece.
The truth is, you can't really. People's mind-sets change over time. This is a great album, but I'm only saying that for myself. It's up to you to decide whether or not you like the sound.
But what you can't do, is not like it because it doesn't sound like it used to. This is Manson, not God. People change over time. And quite honestly, This style, whether you like it or not, is true Manson style. From Antichrist Superstar - Holy Wood, it's all been a project. You'd know this if you read his autobiography. Marilyn Manson's true style is about Glam and Pop, not Anti-religion.
Manson wanted to piss people off, and he succeeded. Now that he's finished, he isn't trying to bash anyone. But if someone gets bashed along the way, then oh well. That's how Manson is.
Manson's TRUE roots go back to "The Spooky Kids" era. If you compare all of his albums since The Golden Age of Grotesque, you would notice a striking similarity, with the exception of Eat Me, Drink Me. That too was an act, and he won't release anything else with that sound probably ever.
So I can understand everyone's frustrations about the actual style of Manson's newer works. It makes sense, maybe you're just not into it. But what I can't, and never will, understand is why you would not like it simply because "It doesn't sound like it used to."
Personally, I'm sick of everyone bashing this album. You think you can write a better album and be better than Manson--then go f*cking do it! I think the album again shows a different side of Manson, as almost every album he's ever written has. Until one of you pansy-ass bashers write an album that garners half the success or attention as a Manson album, SHUT THE F*CK UP. it just jealousy that drives and fuels you all.
And I try so hard to support people like you. but this makes it really, really hard.
okay this album has some good songs, for example Armogoddammother****inggeddon, which is awsoome, but like alot of other people have said i think mansons good days are over, unless he can give us a new song that will blow us away i think we should just think about the good old days, although it is better than eat me drink me, i dont know what to think of it, whatever manson is a great insperation to us all !
It definitely has the sound of MA. Mechanical Animals was simply a masterpiece, musically, lyrically, and symbolically. This is no doubt better than EMDM, and has a new sound to it, but it sounds to me like an in-between combination of MA and HW. Symbolically... I don't think any of his albums including this one have been as good as any of the Triptych. Holy Wood and Mechanical Animals were literally life-changing, this is just normal music again.
Oh and @doomsdayscottie: It's not specifically the left wing or the right wing. It's politics in general. Manson is shock rock, the very purpose of which is to offend the masses. At the end of the day, everything is politics and everyone wants more "votes." Life is a game of populists.
Oh... and @EnDZYm3: "Marilyn Manson's true style is about Glam and Pop, not Anti-religion."
Go read the Nachtkabarett, and you'll see what Manson is truly about. After reading everything there, it became very clear to me that Marilyn Manson's true style is much more than just shock, or glam and pop. It ranges from Kabbalistic to alchemistic, to the most intense stuff you could ever think of. Adam Kadmon is in many of us.
To be honest, i like almost all of the albums, they each sound unique and to be honest: who wants to hear the same albums over and over.....(ac/dc).....dont complain when there is something different everytime
Man Holy Wood not memorable? Who the **** wrote this review... Holy Wood is one of the top 3 best Manson albums aside from Antichrist Superstar and Mechanical Animals..
this is probably the only album I don't really like - and even then it's pretty okay. I don't understand the shit Golden age and Eat me Drink me get - they are both awesome, along with each other album
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