Release Date: Aug 8, 2006
Label: Warner Brothers/Wea
Genres: Thrash Metal, Death Metal
Number Of Tracks: 10
Christ Illusion will incite furious anger some and be embraced by others. It will be burnt by church groups and cherished by kids learning to play guitar.
Christ IllusionFeatured review by: UG Team, on august 10, 2006 17 of 23 people found this review helpful
Sound: The hour is at hand. That’s right, Slayer is once again taking it's dark throne in the music world and unleashing a fiery, pounding, and melodic blend of metal. Christ Illusion is the first full-length studio release from Slayer since 2001’s God Hates Us All, and it will likely be a satisfying addition to Slayer fans’ collection. With Dave Lombardo once again behind the drums after a long absence from the band’s studio albums, and his amazing contribution results in some of the most memorable aspects of the new CD.
Christ Illusion has plenty of what Slayer fans expect and adore: an insane tempo driving each song; dark and often inflammatory lyrics growled by vocalist/bassist Tom Araya; and the essential dual guitar sounds of Kerry King and Jeff Hanneman woven through each song. From the first track “Flesh Storm,” the band sets out to prove that it is as fast as ever and that age has only intensified it's metal. The song lets up on it's mind-blowing tempo only long enough to feature an inspired guitar breakdown -- a classic Slayer formula that works over 20 years after the band first formed.
The song that stands out from the rest of the bunch actually does not begin with the bang of the other tracks, but it first allows the music to build up in intensity. “Jihad” and “Cult” are reminiscent of the band’s older tune “South Of Heaven” in that they feature and intro with melodic riffs over slower tempos, which is just as powerful as the fastest segments on the album. Plus, you still eventually get the best of both worlds in both tunes: the melodic base and an eventual insane tempo led by the skillful Lombardo.
Slayer is not a band for everyone, with it's ever-controversial lyrics and mind-shattering speed, but Christ Illusion is a solid record that deserves more than a few listens. A few songs might lack the complete package “Cult” does, but the talent in Lombardo, King, Araya, and Hanneman is absolutely awe-inspiring. They all know they can play fast and showcase that talent, but they also aren’t afraid to go a bit slower to showcase a guitar melody. // 9
Lyrics and Singing: When you listen to a Slayer tune, you probably already know what’s in store for you lyrically. While most of the songs do have a dark theme, often involving death in one aspect or another, there are those tracks that go a little bit further than that. The band has always inspired an uproar with it's satanic lyrics, and Christ Illusion keeps the tradition going strong.
In the song “Cult” Araya sings, “There never was a sacrifice, No man who hung the crucifix; Beware the call for purity, Infections their facility; I've made my choice, 666!” Yes, there’s nothing subtle about Slayer and that’s probably why the band has maintained such a strong fan base. Will some lyrics offend listeners? Absolutely. Is that a bad thing for a band like Slayer? Not a chance. Controversy has worked wonders for artists in the past and Slayer has been around long enough to know.
The song “Black Serenade” takes a more basic approach (for death metal) lyrically. Araya sings, “Welcome to my Black Serenade; The entrance to my hell your pain; Scream your song the Black Serenade; Live in fear a mind insane.” Some might call the lyrics silly, but the words fit the song pretty well. For the fans needing a classic fix of the Slayer they knew and loved back in ’85, the words in “Black Serenade” are probably kind of nostalgic. // 8
Impression: Slayer has a history of releasing some amazing, memorable records and a few mediocre ones. So the anticipation for Christ Illusion, which features classic Lombardo drumming no less, has been high. The record does not quite reach the legendary status of Reign In Blood, but it will not likely disappoint die-hard Slayer fans.
Most of the tunes have the standard Slayer arrangement, featuring more than a few tempo changes. The band knows how to keep songs interesting and that is why Slayer has become a household name among the throngs of metal bands. The album reaches it's peak when it allows enough time for Kerry and Hanneman’s melodic guitar lines to take center stage, then immediately unleashes up-tempo madness. When Slayer is at it's best, it’s when it can reach that equilibrium that other thrash metal bands just can’t seem to find.
And then there are those classic Slayer lyrics. Christ Illusion will incite furious anger some and be embraced by others. It will be burnt by church groups and cherished by kids learning to play guitar. When you can sense the storm before the record even comes out, that’s a pretty powerful album. Yes, Slayer is back with a vengeance. // 9
Christ Illusion
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HybridCacaphony, on august 11, 2006 14 of 50 people found this review helpful
Sound: Let me start off by saying I did my best to walk into this album objectively, as if it were the first time I've heard Slayer. Granted, everyone has probably heard at least one Slayer song in their lifetime if they listen to the metal genre. I haven't listened to every Slayer album, but I thought I'd give this one a shot, since 2005/2006 has been a great period so far for bands to release new works. I listened to this album on myspace when it started streaming. I also borrowed it from a friend, and I'm listening to it while I'm writing the review, so I won't miss anything. The quality of the album is no better than on myspace, which bothered me a little. But I digress (oh, I'm not going to bother reviewing the bass, since overall, it is unimpressive. Granted I'm sure that's because Araya is singing something).
01. Flesh Storm - a very nice intro for the album, fast, full guitars and some decent drum-work. Then suddenly, we reach 0:35 and Tom Araya steps in and does his best to ruin everything. I'll discuss more about his lyrics in the lyric section, but needless to say, you need to be a die-hard fan of his voice. Honestly, his sudden appearance into the music just killed the song. The section about "iconic devotion" is less than amazing. The little solo at 1:25 is decent, albeit short. He tries to make up for it at 2:39, and he does manage to redeem himself, so kudos. But after this, the song really should have just ended. It's ridiculously repetative, and I was thankful to get a break by 4:14.
02. Catalyst - the song wastes no time here. You're thrown right into Catalyst. I liked the guitar solo at 1:36, it's decent. Guitar work here is really nothing special. The drums do not seem to shine. Araya again murders the song as best as he can vocally.
03. Eyes Of The Insane - actually heard this song before the album came out on a local radio station, and didn't know it was Slayer. My reaction then was the same as now: "What is this garbage?" The guitars in the intro are less than impressive (personally I hate them). The drums are very good however. Araya again destroys any chance this song had lyrically. By 1:25, this song has gone on too long. At 1:51, the guitar soloing returns, with as much suckitude as possible. What was that supposed to be? He has to be kidding. Too long, too boring, too uninspired. Next.
04. Jihad - holy shit! The guitars are doing something different? I actually hate the intro to this song, but it's the only thing that isn't the constant tremelo picking of the top string. Kinda thought this song was going somewhere, but aound 0:40 it disappoints. By 0:52, we're back to the mindlessness featured in the 3 previous tracks. Quite a buzz about this song before the album came out. Everyone figuring it would be controversial, and practically salivating over the idea. Well, Araya is in rare form here. And I'll comment on it here as well as in lyrics. His lyrics are more than inflammatory. Not the just the whole "this is God's war" part, but Aray accuses God of "raping" believers. I'll get into this more in lyrics. The guitar solo is crap again. Sorry, but we've heard the same thing in previous songs. Do something else, or at least let us forget you're there. 2:51 to the very end is just plain lame. But I'll tell you, I'm kinda glad that Araya stopped singing. Easily one of the worst songs on the album- and so far, that's been hard to do.
05. Skeleton Christ - oh boy. Gotta love the "anti-God, hail Satan" themes here. The guitars are boring and repetative. Solo before 1:08 sucks. And the guitar solo at 2:56 sucks even worse. Listen, we've heard that in the two previous songs. Do something else. Around 3:30 the song takes a turn. And not for the better. The guitars remind us at 3:42 that it is possible to solo over crap, but the solo will also sound equal. A step up from Jihad, but that's not saying much.
06. Consfearacy - very clever play on words. You can tell Slayer is just oozing with wit at this point. More capitalizing on politics as we've seen by so many bands whose careers are in the toilet. The intro is the same thing we've heard in just about every single song, with just a minor variation of what notes between open and the 6th fret (Let's face it, he's not going any higher than that) are being played. This song is nothing special until about 0:26 where the solo guitar returns, again. The same type of soloing as we've heard in the 5 previous tracks prevails. Thrilling. It returns again throughout the song, and to be honest, it actually improves the musical quality slightly. I'll even give him that the little guitar effect at 1:37 is awesome. But his droning soloing that continues, is nothing impressive.
07. Catatonic - a step in the right direction. You know towards melody. This song is really good until 0:38. If Araya wasn't singing, I'd like it a whole lot more. 1:05 (which I guess is the chorus-type riff) sucks. The soloing at 1:43 just shouldn't have happened. 2:32 takes a better turn. The drums pick up substantially, and the guitar riffs are much better. The solo is better after this point. Too bad we've heard it so many times. Can someone buy him a new effect or something? And someone needs to show him when the solos need to end, because they go on too long and then just sorta fizzle out, like a sparkler. 4:54 is far too long for this song.
08. Black Serenade - the transition from Catatonic to Black Serenade just does not jive. The guitars feel half-assed. You can tell there's a lot of potential here, but they just go nowhere and side in favor of repetition. 1:10's sudden burst of energy makes no sense. It feels like they just spliced two songs together. After this point, the song just sorta goes to hell. Although, it's Slayer, so maybe that was the intent. The atonal quality of this song is really, really overdone. Too much of the music does not jive, even by Slayer standards. I would have favored guitars more like the beginnig.
09. Cult - starts off with a much needed quiet riff. The tempo change is welcomed at this point. The guitars are decent again. The drums at 1:11 are awesome. Then enter the same garbage we've heard before. Guitar solos appear periodically to distract from Araya's completely ridiculous yelling. 2:49 the song just starts to go into overdrive in the suck department. 3:16 marks the return of the ever-so-boring guitar solos. Nice try guys. Take a breather and try not to suck on the last one.
10. I was so happy when I reached this track. It felt like there was a lot more then 10 tracks. If that were the case, I'm not so sure I would have continued past here. I'd reached my limit by song 4. I like this guitars here. They give up the overly loud quality for sound. Araya comes back here in his most prevalent hate speech ever. The guitars become disguisting. I'm not sure what happened to the energy in the intro, but it is completely lost until 1:36. Then the energy returns, but not in a good way. The solo at 1:50 sucks. The change in tempo at 2:00 sounds like everything else on this album. 2:28 marks a return to the slow, painful guitar riffs. The soloing in the background is useless. Araya takes center stage here, and overpowers everything until 3:16. The song finally dies at 3:17. But then persisits with annoying little noises until 3:50. Slayer certainly leaves us with something to think about on this last track. Why did you waste your money on this album?
With every track reviewed, my overall review of their sound should make a little more sense. When I started off, I wondered how I could describe the sound of Slayer's new album. In one sense, they remind me of those kids in high school who had that metal band, and all the songs sounded exactly the same. In another sense, I remember those kids having a little more talent. And I remember they all ended up pumping gas. If only that were the case with Slayer. Slayer is a testament to the idea of "too much of anything is bad for you." Too many unnecessary tempo changes. Too many "insane" beats and breakneck tempo. Too many poorly thought out lyrics. Too much yelling by Araya. Too many awful guitar solos that sound exactly the same. It's a problem when one song really can't be distinguished from another because they are all played the same way. Too little of everything also hurts them: Too little direction. Too little variation. Too little thought put into the songs. You can argue, but the guitars are completely half-assed and identical for the most part. The drums could be swaped in and out of any song and traded for a different drum track from another song and I wouldn't bat an eye. I can't imagine Slayer spent much time in the recording studio. And I can't imagine the guy at the sound board cared too much. This album sounds like it was mixed in someone's basement. In terms of sound, Slayer should just throw in the towel. I'm deducting 1 point overall from the total score for it's really shitty quality. // 2
Lyrics and Singing: There are some things you need to know when listening to Slayer so that you can understand the lyrics: expect nothing special; frontman Tom Araya thinks you are an idiot. His lyrics are written for the unintelligent (which I guess works, since so many people love it), and the only time he uses a word longer than four letters is when a bunch of little words wouldn't fit; Tom Araya's writing is about as inspired as Swiss cheese. There is an utter lack of imagery and a lack of substance. He also recycles the same themes again and again and again, without even bothering to change the way he says it (for example: how many times can you possibly talk about blood raining down); Araya's lyrics are contradictory. God doesn't exist. Oh, and God hates you. Religion is powerless. But it starts wars; Araya goes for shock value, because he sucks at writing and he wants people to pay attention to him; Araya is also completely egocentric- He demands you see things his way. Otherwise, he'd gladly see you dead.
I need to look this up one day, or maybe someone else knows. Was Tom Araya enrolled in Catholic school? Did he get knocked out by a nun? Or did he have a dog that died when he was four and he's mad at God for it? Seriously, at this point, his vendetta against God and religion is old-hat and it's a little more than an obsession. He sounds more like a child angry at a parent. He should probably get some sort of counciling. How many albums of anti-religion hate can he churn out? Personally, I thought this whole anti-religion, anti-God thing was wearing itself out. Slayer's really scraping the bottom of the barrel here. Not only is the subject old, it's uninspired and his presentation is garbage. There isn't one intelligent thought going on. It's more like Araya just spitting everything he says is true out of his mouth totally stream of consciousness. In addition, those with a careful ear will hear Araya being guilty of reverse bigotry. Araya's hate speech has never been more prevalent, claiming in songs that he wants to see religious people crucified and wants to see them burning. Araya lumps everyone together in one big pot, in quite possibly the worst form of stereotyping ever. What's worse is, his listeners allow him to get away with it, and never call him on it. People even support the sort of hate preaching he allows to spew from his mouth, and he revels in that support and all the money it rakes in.
Araya's lyrics are also confusing. He denies God's existence. Then says he is fighting God, and claims he's made his choice to side with the devil. Granted, he's probably just talking about the "symbol" of God and Satan, that he's fighting those ideas. But sometimes, it's hard to tell if he actually believes he is fighting God- actually leading a war against a diety. He also falls back and forth between blaming God and rebuking God. There's no real rhyme or reason here. I took a look at four which really stood out as just nonsensical.
Eyes Of The Insane: let's capitalize on the idea of soldiers and warfare. Everyone else is doing it. Come on, look at Green Day. Yeah, we can pretty much start lumping Slayer in with those who ride the band-wagon (no pun intended) when their career is dead. But, for what it's worth, this is Araya's only half decent attempt at anything to be considered imagery. And it's a sorry excuse at that. Jihad - oh the things that could be said about this song. Honestly, this should be offensive to everyone, religious and non-religious. This guy gets up and throws every obscenity into the face of people who are religious. Even if you don't agree with the ideas of Holy Wars (and practically no one except those in the middle east do), you can't possibly believe that his hate speech here is founded. Cult - this song is offensive, and Araya knew it when he wrote it. I know that's what Slayer is about, but at this point, he is seriously writing simply to hurt people. It's not like he's offering an alternative. Just shooting down Christian beliefs. “There never was a sacrifice, No man who hung the crucifix; Beware the call for purity, Infections their facility; I've made my choice, 666!”. Ultimate-Guitar loved this line apparently. But when you look at that, he's asking for people to get mad. Maybe it's just a cry for attention.
Supremist - wow. That's all I could think of. This is just dripping with anti-everything sentiment. Araya is practically seething in his statement that he doesn't even want to breathe the same air as other human beings who have differing beliefs. He wants to see them crucified, suffering and in pain. Worst of all, this is not just a figure of speech, he means it. How he gets away with saying these things is amazing. Again, this should offend everyone- this is just preaching utter hate. The same thing he accuses religion of doing. Hypocrisy reigns in Slayer. // 1
Impression: Here's where I'll stop being objective, because I've made up my mind now. Slayer had their day, and it is over. In fact, even then, their day didn't amount to much. Anyone could do what they have done, in fact, others have. Shock bands aren't drumming up the sort of response they used to, especially not after 20 years. And without the muscial prowess to back themselves up they are just making fools of themselves. Ultimately, Christ Illusion is garbage. Pure, unadulterated garbage. There is nothing special in terms of the band's sound, nothing new, nothing innovative, and in fact, they've lost the sound they previously had (which wasn't really much to begin with). Not only did they not "invent" their genre like everyone seems to believe, they are atrocious at it. They are certainly a "god" of rock we could do without. // 1
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F-ing Hostile, on may 03, 2007 1 of 1 people found this review helpful
Sound: This CD is alright, it's pretty repetitve, like most Slayer CDs, the album is mostly charged on anti religion, mostly christianity, and politics. The style of the CD is pretty much what makes Slayer stand out, extremely fast palm-muted thrash riffs, and double bass, but they really need to try to go for some different sounds, especially the guitars, the whole play as fast as you can thing is starting to get old to me, and the solos are not very good at all, this CD is definetly not another Raining Blood or South Of Heaven. // 6
Lyrics and Singing: The lyrics are decent as usual, they usually keep it on the cutting edge with some of the stuff they say, for example "Jihad" they talk about 911 attacks in the eyes of the terrorist, and the lyrics comply with the music pretty well, I would say that the lyrics were my favorite part of the album, although Tom Araya is a good lyricist, his singing skills have never been good, he can't hold a note at all really, but he works with what he has prety well. // 8
Impression: Does it compare to the other albums? No, and I'm not saying that because it's superior, it's probly my least favorite of them all, the only songs that I liked were Jihad, and Cult, none of the others really impressed me, I really don't love anything about this album, but I hate the solo's really bad, and that Slayer's guitar riffs have sounded the same for the past 15 years, if it were stolen, I really wouldn't care. // 6
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DownInAHole., on september 04, 2006 2 of 3 people found this review helpful
Sound: Well in 2003, Iron Maiden and Metallica had their little comeback albums. Judas Priest released one last year and then Slayer felt like releasing their comeback album as well. These guys are one of the pioneers of metal and it is hard to give them negative feedback, but after hearing this album, I think it deserves some. First of all, Kerry and Jeff should get a reward fro writing the same riffs over and over again. They tried so hard to mimic Season Of The Abyss on this album. It really shows with the song construction. Second, production quality is horrible, in some songs I can't even hear what Tom is saying. Not that you would want to anyway because he is horrible. I am a huge Slayer fan and I don't think this is true "Slayer sound." // 6
Lyrics and Singing: Lyrics, way worst than the sound. These guys lacked originality lyrically as well. Sceaming "666" isn't very creative in my opinion. I think they were trying to stir up some controversy with their choice of lyrics. Tom Araya has to be one of the worst metal singers I've ever heard in my life. He has no range, no talent, and no songwriting skills. This album is in my view, a lyrical joke. // 5
Impression: Don't get me wrong, I am a huge Slayer fan. They wrote some metal classics: Raining Blood, Angel of Death, Dead Skin Mask, etc. I think this is a disgrace to Slayer and their fans. The only songs I liked on this album are "Cult" and "Jihad" the rest sounded just previous songs they have recorded. Only a diehard Slayer fan should buy this. Don't buy it out of impulse or you will be disappointed. Bad concept, sound, and songriting. I wish I wouldn't have bought this. If you are new to Slayer, I suggest you check out any of their albums that were released before 1990. Their new stuff just disappoints me. // 7
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nfldguitarist, on february 28, 2008 0 of 0 people found this review helpful
Sound: So my next review is slayer. Obviously slayer is a great thrash Thrash Metal band and all there earlier releases are great and have an amzing sound leave an impression on you, especially if your a metalhead. This is the first new album I've bought by slayer, Lets see how it sounds. Well having it for a week I cna say that this doesn't sound like Reign in blood or south of heaven or any of the other classic albums that we have grown up. The sound is definetly thrash and has a heavy influence from the older stuff but there also seems to be somewhat of a tansference from the nu metal slayer had done in there last tunes. I think the album definetly would have been better if Rick Rubin had been the producer. Instead he kinda of dicked out of it but whatever. Eyes of the Insane is obviously a more classic slayer sound and is my personal favourite track. I didn't like how the vocals didn't hold up on this album. I know that vocals aren't super important to slayer or slayer fans but they have usually had presentable vocals. I think it's Tom getting older and everything but it's still better than a lot of the crap knowadays. I also thought that the sound was also lacking a really great guitar solo. A lot of people may disagree but it's a review by an amateur on ultimate guitar. Don't get worked up about it. // 8
Lyrics and Singing: the lyrics are definetly dark thrash lyrics. The way Metallica should've done it on St. Anger, actually Metallica should've just asked slayer for help, anyway I couldn't get over how the music was very dark angstful and heavy. The lyrics begged to be wrote by a nu metal lyricist, they begged to be. Tom has definetly aged and you can hear it in his voice but he still manages to lower his vocal growl into something that reminds you of classic slayer so I can see that he tried. All and all they did an okay job with this part. The lyrics just didn't match the music some of the time. That's all I can say. // 7
Impression: When you compare Christ Illusion to classics like Reign In Blood, South Of Heaven and Haunting The Chapel, then Slayer kinda can't compete to them. Cmparing to a lot of metal/hard rock bands nowadays this is easily the best album of them all. I love how angry and metallic it sounds. I don't lik it sounds. The only thing I can pick out is the mismatched music with lyrics. I hope I never lose it or anyone ever steals it from me, I would buy it as soon as I had the money, most definetly yes. // 9
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otski, on july 14, 2007 0 of 0 people found this review helpful
Sound: I never really liked Slayer until I bought Reign In Blood and since then I haven't lived a day without playing a slayer song or listening at least 2 songs. Their sound and style is just amazing in my eyes and with this album they have just made me a bigger fan. Original isn't the best way to call a Slayer song because they always take the same scales or power-chords but they do it so good. The overall sound off the album is in my opinion great but in the solo's they could have just little bit more viarity in effects.One off the cool things is that on this album they use a drop B, B and E# tuned guitar which also makes the albums more interesting. // 9
Lyrics and Singing: Personally I love the lyrics. I can't get it if someone who loves metal can't like the phrase "Your faith has atrophied and rots in hell's asylum". Alright maybey your religious and can't stand any crap said about your belief but for everyone else this must be one great collection of anti-war/religion lyrics. It never get's repetetive and every song must stab someone in the stumach. Maybey it's just me but hellllll this stuff is hard to sing and play at the same time. This is for me a sign that a band is good in songwriting: A songwriter('s)/singer who by singing out of the chords schedule gives a song an extra layer. And who's better to point out on that field then Tom Araya. Although you can't see Araya as a singer he brings the lyrics with such aggression/passion that you forget about that he actually just talks the lyrics. // 9
Impression: Concluding this album is a beast which till the end off Cult is eating your brains and life away and let me tell you you'll love every second off it.I really this belongs with my 3 favorite Slayer albums Reign In Blood, God Hates Us All, Christ Illussion. My favorite songs are Cult, Catatonic and Eyes Of The Insane. If this Album was stolen I would buy a copy of it for the one who robbed me and then ask my own back cause he really needs this CD. // 9
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fnoof, on march 19, 2007 0 of 0 people found this review helpful
Sound: Many are sceptic on the new drop tuning that king and hanneman have used on the two latest albums, Losing some fans as a claim of "commercialism". However. If you are a die hard Slayer fan, as me myself, you will learn to appreciate that the low end juice really gives this album, and enriched, dark theme. As ever, expect machine gun kickdrums with the return of legend drummer Dave Lombardo, Blood curdling screams from Araya and tremolo passages from King and Hanneman that top 200 bpm. // 8
Lyrics and Singing: The tradition of death, occult imagery and evil in Slayer's lyrics continues but in a more "real" and reserved packaged. If Kerry King has once made a turning point in the bands lyrical imagery, this album is it. Passages on "Cult" and "Katalyst" seem almost poetic. By far the most dark and controversial song lyrically has to be 05 - Jihad. This song is themed on the terrorist attack of 911 from the extremist point of view. Lines such as "Ill take these towers from the world; You're f--king raped upon your death bed with indefinitiveley stike some chords. This is how you define shock rock, if you are religious, faint hearted or easily offended, this album isnt for you. As brilliant as the lyrics may be, Arayas' vocals, seemingly weak on this record have become the fixation of critics. // 9
Impression: If I listened to this album, in no knowledge that this was Slayer I would love it, but as far as Slayer have come, this album is a mediocrety. This record may dissapoint die hard Slayer fans, however, to anyone new to the concept of thrash or Slayer, this album is a must have. Despite not being the best Slayer album on the market it is definetly worth buying. If someone stole any of my Slayer albums, I would feed them to the pigs. It's that simple. // 7
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floydfan001, on november 28, 2006 0 of 0 people found this review helpful
Sound: Slayer has gone through the years as a band that continues to play the most agressive, loudest metal in America, and this album, 20 years after their breakthrough Reign In Blood, is as good as anything they've done up to this point. The music, still the good assortment of Slayer's driving power chords, harmonized riffs, and insane solo work has not left anything to be desired on the record. I also think for the first time Slayer harmonized a solo, I think which happens on Jihad. // 9
Lyrics and Singing: The lyrics of Slayer have though undergone changes over the years, and we find this album has the good assortment of political and satanic lyrics. Over the years, Tom Araya has put in much more agressive screaming into his music, noticeable from the opener Flesh Storm. Remember him 20 years ago screaming like a girl on Angel of Death? I love both sounds. The lyrics range on from religion tearing apart society to the views of a terrorist bombing America, to the war in Iraq. This album has far much more swearing than any I've remembered, and maybe that's why the sticker is applied. // 9
Impression: Slayer still rocks harder than anyone out there in the metal world today. Christ Illusion is now right up there with my favorite hard rock albums of all time, next to Toxicity, Reign In Blood, and Paranoid. The songs worth checking out our Flesh Storm, Eyes of the Insane, Jihad, Catatonic, and the single Cult. I still love that Slayer hasn't changed a bit throughout their careers, not trying to get on every playlist. I strongly recommend this album to all Slayer fans. // 10
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suicidemessiah1, on august 14, 2006 0 of 1 people found this review helpful
Sound: First off, I've been looking forward to this release for quite some time, especially knowing that dave lombardo would be on this. The sound on this CD is like they picked up from where seasons in the abyss left off as far as the energy and the way it attacks right from the first note. I didn't care for the opening to Jihad or Eyes Of The Insane, probably the 2 weakest songs here but the rest seem to get better and getter every time I listen. // 8
Lyrics and Singing: For the lyrics it's typical Slayer so I'm not going to give it a high mark because it's basicly the same subject matter that they've written about for the last 23 years. Although the lyrics to jihad give you the perspective of the terrorists on 9/11 which I find to be kinda disrespectful to all the people that died on that tragic day, but nonetheless I don't hold it against them because it's Slayer and that's what they do. // 5
Impression: This is a great CD. like I said, with the exception of Jihad and Eyes Of The Insane, This is the best Slayer release overall since seasons. They have proven that truly age does not matter and I hope they kick ass for another 25 years. And for all the people out there that are bashing this CD, go home to your mom and dads house and stick to your Avenged Sevenfold! // 8
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Chop_Suey92, on august 14, 2006 0 of 1 people found this review helpful
Sound: 24 years of controversy, and 24 years of chaos have been good to Slayer, and it shows on Christ Illusion. This album pummeled me in ways Metal hadnt done in a while. When you listen to this album, you might wanna have an extra pair of pants in case you piss yourself. Each note on Christ Illusion is crushing, white-hot needles are pushed into your ears as every minute passes. Kerry King and Jeff Hanneman hit you with speed more intense than the fastest Jet or bullet, and Dave Lombardo pounds the rythym into your face and leaves you in total and utter awe. Christ Illusion isnt gonna leave the Hardcore Slayer fan dissappointed! // 10
Lyrics and Singing: The lyrics in the album werent as good as the music itself, but they hold their own, and Tom Araya belts every word out like a pissed-off Demon. Age has not marred his voice, and is more reminiscent of that of Reign In Blood, and doesnt't sound strained as on God Hates Us All and Diabolus In Musica. The lyrical style of this album will probably not appeal to you right away, but after a few listens you'll get used ot it! The lyrics address events going on around us, such as "Jihad", written about 9/11, is from the point of view of an Iraqi terrorist. "Flesh Storm" is written from two perspectives, the point of a soldier in the war, watching body parts fly around him, and watching his friends die, while the other is written from the views of the media. Very clever, over all the lyrics are great. // 9
Impression: Definetly, this album is better than any Metal album on the Market, and Slayer definetly delivers. I think the most notable songs on "Illusion" are "Flesh Storm, "Jihad", "Eyes Of The Insane", "Supremist", "Skeleton Christ, and "Cult". I love the fact that this album is the most political and religious album they have, and that even when they are well into their third decade as a band, they still write things that other people wont dare write about. If someone stole this album, I would probably hunt down the faggot that stole it, and beat the crap out of him. Screw buying it again, the person who stole it will die. // 10
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ilovemyepi, on august 14, 2006 0 of 4 people found this review helpful
Sound: Slayer: a band near legendary, a band who, together with others, pioneered the trash metal genre. The influence of the band is undeniable. However, this album does not compare to their previous efforts at anyway what'soever. While the quick speed guitar riffs sound really cool, they get repetive after a while. The strong yelling vocals are so harsh they get annoying. This isn't innovative at all; it's the same stuff Slayer's put out before. // 2
Lyrics and Singing: The lyrics are probably the worst part of the album. Although there are some parts where Araya writes some really good lyrics, most of the time it's the same stuff we've heard on other Slayer records, "I've chosen 666, I dislike christians, I dislike everyone." Araya also has mediocre singing skills. His vocals are too harsh, so the album gets hard to listen to after a while. // 1
Impression: This doesn't compare to Slayer's other albums like "Reign In Blood" and "South Of Heaven." The impressive songs, although few, include "Flesh Storm" and "Jihad." I love some of the guitar riffs, but I hate the feeble solos and vocals. If it were stolen or lost, I would get something else. // 2
this cd is up there with slayers top albums, i am glad there are bands left out there who havent changed their look to go with the times, just as slayer has.
im dissapointed that they decieded to offend people and their religion just to sell more albums
If your offened buy this album, DONT LISTEN TO IT. and Kerry King didnt write those songs to offend people, he just has a strong opinion agaisnt organized religion
first time i listened to it i thought it was a terrible album, but i listened to a it a few more times and it grew on me, now i think its pretty damn good, but i still cant stand most of king's "solos"
Lyrically, just a bunch of hypocrites. One of the members is a Catholic and then releases an album called Christ Illusion? That's like SOAD preaching about the crappy world in their $2,000 outfits.
Musically...good stuff.
But lyrics and music equal a song, so this album is just a shell of what it could have been.
cubedeathk, you have severe problems my friend. First off you say dream theater is going emo and now slayer??? What is wrong with you? You should just shut your mouth and never post again. Do you really have nothing better to do in your sorry ass life but to go and flame great bands. You should really get out a little more and if that doesn't work you should get some help. Its just pathetic that you have to do something stupid like that to get noticed.
btw the new Slayer album is awesome, good to see a band staying true to who they are and never selling out. Rock on Slayer!!
This album is ****ing amazing, not the best to me though....but it's definetly not what i would of expected from them...i read there lyrics before they released there cd, and damn they were strong.
So I am very pleased with there cd, and all those stupid ass people that get offended by it, dont even bother with it...unless you want Slayer to have more attention. =]
Lyrically, just a bunch of hypocrites. One of the members is a Catholic and then releases an album called Christ Illusion? That's like SOAD preaching about the crappy world in their $2,000 outfits.
Musically...good stuff.
But lyrics and music equal a song, so this album is just a shell of what it could have been.
im dissapointed that they decieded to offend people and their religion just to sell more albums
If your offened buy this album, DONT LISTEN TO IT. and Kerry King didnt write those songs to offend people, he just has a strong opinion agaisnt organized religion
Couldn't have said it better myself.. He told people that he has a very very strong belief against organized religion and he just HAS to write about it .. He really doesn't care what some people think .. Like religious people anyways so.. Ya
I enjoy a lot of slayer's songs and all. Some of their lyrics seems implausible. Such as if there was no sacrifice, then the whole thing with Satan in revelations would have no backing and therefore 666 means nothing. But it sound really good, I guess you just have to take the lyrics at what their worth which is only to entertain, nothing more.
Why don't they call it Mohammad Illusion ? Because they have no balls, far easier to offend Christians. Bunch of wussies really, music is crap too...
Very true.
But all that aside, have you people actually listened to the music from an objective perspective?! It's trash. Not just the lyrics, but the guitar playing is garbage, and how many times can you listen to those awful recycled drum beats? There is nothing of any value on that album. Seriously, Slayer needs to just call it quits...
Covin needs a kick in the teeth. Actually, yes Tom is a Catholic, but doesn't let the lyrics bother him, he is in Slayer. Which has no interference with his beliefs
Why don't they call it Mohammad Illusion ? Because they have no balls, far easier to offend Christians. Bunch of wussies really, music is crap too...
they live in america and there are alot more christains in america, and kerry king dislikes aspects of christainity, and they can do w/e they want stfu ur an idiot, and you ever think that they known more about christainity then islam, so they can make an educated opinion, shut up and don't buy the CD, im sure they wouldn't want you to, you uneducated douche
Music good, lyrics crap, they think they know what they're singing about but they dont know shit. They think its cool to slag off christianity but what they dont realize is that whether they like it or not they will have to be accountable for what they sing about. True christians should be able to forgive them for this blasphemy so the more shit they come up with the more it can strengthen christianity.
well actually the guitarist or bassist,(one of the 2)
is catholic and disagrees with what the band does. i read it!. its on this site. type in slayer for reviews.
Lyrically, just a bunch of hypocrites. One of the members is a Catholic and then releases an album called Christ Illusion? That's like SOAD preaching about the crappy world in their $2,000 outfits.
Musically...good stuff.
But lyrics and music equal a song, so this album is just a shell of what it could have been.
I don't know how I could live with myself if I was i member of Slayer and still called myself a follower of Jesus Christ. God most certainly does not listen to Slayer!
Why don't they call it Mohammad Illusion ? Because they have no balls, far easier to offend Christians. Bunch of wussies really, music is crap too...
Your a retard. I dont think slayers lyrics are very imaginative - but mabe its the fact that kerry king is against christianity rather than islam, and im sorry but I see that as a predjudiced remark - so if they called it mohammed illusion they would be in more danger of what exactly, its ****ing people like you that they want to piss off.
Also. saying "music is crap" as a fact without any backup or state of oppinion is ****ing stupid.
Also Tbh, id be more worried about pissing of the fundamentalist christians that run the whitehouse and own more nukes than the rest of the world.
So Slayer do stuff to piss people of, get over it, what makes me laugh is that so many people take it too seriously, if you didnt get soo arsy about it they wouldnt do it.
Oh yea. Fucking grate album 7 and a half out of 10 id say
my god wouldnt it just be easier to say " we all believe in what we believe in" instead of arguing back and forth sure kerry doesnt believe in established religion but why does everyone have to give there opinion i could care less about what he believes. if what he says botheres u or makes u rethink your religion then you obviously didnt believe to begin with.
slayer is good music and even though i dont agree with there message i still respect it
Slayer's lyrics and song titles are just too similar for my tastes. "Flesh Storm" "Reign in Blood"
...they keep talking about the same stuff. it's getting old. although a lot of the riffs on this album i like. can't stand the solos though...please don't flame me because i have a different opinion than you. not everything Slayer puts out will be amazing like some seem to think.
I think this album is awesome, musically. The riffs are sweet, and I think the solos have actually improved. As said before its no Reign in Blood but still a good CD nonetheless. I know Slayer has been singing about Satan for like 20 years but some of these lyrics seem even more extreme. for instance, some lyrics from Cult: "the targets ****in Jesus Christ, I would have lead the sacrifice, and nailed him to the crucifix." I mean, i definately don't listen to Slayer for the lyrics, but I think some of this crosses the line from King voicing his opinions to just plain disrespect. I mean I love Slayer musically but some of these lyrics are ****ing bullshit.
wow my comment is really ****ed up, what i meant to say was
ilovemyepi wrote:
Slayer's lyrics and song titles are just too similar for my tastes. "Flesh Storm" "Reign in Blood"
...they keep talking about the same stuff. it's getting old. although a lot of the riffs on this album i like. can't stand the solos though...please don't flame me because i have a different opinion than you. not everything Slayer puts out will be amazing like
some seem to think.
my god wouldnt it just be easier to say " we all believe in what we believe in" instead of arguing back and forth sure kerry doesnt believe in established religion but why does everyone have to give there opinion i could care less about what he believes. if what he says botheres u or makes u rethink your religion then you obviously didnt believe to begin with.
slayer is good music and even though i dont agree with there message i still respect it
im dissapointed that they decieded to offend people and their religion just to sell more albums
Its not who or what they're talking about that pisses people off. Its how they're doing it. What pisses people off is that they can say these things anytime anywhere because of the first amendment. Tom araya even said in an interview that "what we sing about is not necessarily what we believe." So, maybe they dont believe half of what they write, but they're exersising the highest point of freedom of speech. And THAT is what really pisses people off. That they can do what they want and there isnt a damn thing that anybody can do about it. Rock on slayer, and keep showing people not to be afraid to say any damn thing.
Oh, and by bitching at Slayer for what they do...your doing exactly what they want. They've already played you into the entire thing. Sleep on that, and know that you've already been beat.
Oh, and by bitching at Slayer for what they do...your doing exactly what they want. They've already played you into the entire thing. Sleep on that, and know that you've already been beat.
Well said. Oh, and Christ Illusion rocks hardcore!!
I've never really liked Slayer. Sure Reign In Blood will always been known by everyone. But they just seem like a band trying WAY! to hard to be something their not. but I guess it the shit they like to play, so if they're happy with it. Why not? Personally, I'll never listen to Slayer, not because I'm a Christian, cuz I'm not (I'm Agnostic), just because I think they really have no REAL talent and they do not appeal to me. All my friends love them, but i just can't bring myself to listen to them. But I guess they did kinda of influence a lot of great bands out there today, so they're okay for doing that. But I just don't see why everyone loves them so much.
Music good, lyrics crap, they think they know what they're singing about but they dont know shit. They think its cool to slag off christianity but what they dont realize is that whether they like it or not they will have to be accountable for what they sing about. True christians should be able to forgive them for this blasphemy so the more shit they come up with the more it can strengthen christianity.
Kerry doesn't like Christianity. I don't like Christianity. And I'm pretty ****ing sure we can say whatever the hell we want about it. So you can shove your blasphemy up your self-righteous holy ass. See if you can fit a couple Hail Mary's up there.
in regards to the 2nd review, you must not be a slayer fan, a smart person would realize that tom has spoken about slayer's music and his religion and he knows that they're just words, and in the words of the dead kennedy's "you can take your social regulations and shove em up your ass"
all of you suposed religious people that come on here giving slayer bad reviews your all full of shit this album kicks ass and it is definatly one of my favorite slayer albums the lyrics are really good on this one organized religion is a cult the world would be better off without religion you don't need to worship a god to know the difference between right and wrong yes tom araya is a chatalic but that doesn't nesacarily mean that he believes it all and all of the songs on the album that refer to satan and religion are pretty much all written by kerry king and you can interpret them many ways i just interpret as an atheist point of view about religion becaus ethats all they really are and they also do it to piss of whiny little bitches like you who sit around and complain about your religion being descriminated againist while you pursucute every body else for there beliefs **** you you dont like dont buy dont listen to the album nobody there not ****ing hypocrites your the ****ing hypocrites
lol, that's where i cited my source. It's pure hypocrisy to be on a stage preaching everything you don't believe. And he knows it. His very response to the question ellicited a profanity contrary to his faith.
Anyone declaring a faith of traditionalism with a profanity is obviously not someone to be taken seriously until they can.
I can't listen to people that encourage you to think freely while slamming people that choose to think one way.
It's ironic because it's a close-minded way of thinking.
This, in my opinion, ruins Slayer's music. Their potential is incredible...if only they themselves were a little more credible.
all of you suposed religious people that come on here giving slayer bad reviews your all full of shit this album kicks ass and it is definatly one of my favorite slayer albums the lyrics are really good on this one organized religion is a cult the world would be better off without religion you don't need to worship a god to know the difference between right and wrong yes tom araya is a chatalic but that doesn't nesacarily mean that he believes it all and all of the songs on the album that refer to satan and religion are pretty much all written by kerry king and you can interpret them many ways
Fact is, in the end Araya is the one who is singing them, which makes them HIS lyrics. It's the same with the drummer or guitarists- someone else could write the part, but in the end, the drummer and the guitarists are the ones playing them, there-by making them their parts. They're not really Kerry King's lyrics once Araya gets up there.
they also do it to piss of whiny little bitches like you who sit around and complain about your religion being descriminated againist while you pursucute every body else for there beliefs **** you you dont like dont buy dont listen to the album nobody there not ****ing hypocrites your the ****ing hypocrites
They piss people off because they're getting up on stage, and preaching pure hate. If you listen to that album, it's dripping with hatred and bigotry. Religious or not, everyone should be offended on the grounds of basic human decency. The KKK can't preach their hate speech, why should Slayer?
I'm not a huge metal fan, though I do adore Slayer. yes, I am a Catholic, but I really don't pay attention to the lyrics in that matter. I'm listening to Reign in Blood as I write this and I also have bought Christ Illusion. I really don't agree with the two reviews, but I respect teh work they put into them because they do have many good points. Maybe Slayer has descended from past album in your eyes, but I still tihnk they are still the heavy metal gods they wer ein the 80's and 90's.
Slayer has always been about hitting you with a wall of sound and shocking anyone with anything. From the looks of it, they have again succeeded!!! They have never been anything but repetitive. How many open chord variations are possible and how often has Slayer used them? But, bottom line is ''who cares''!!!
I like the album, just for it's guitar value. Evidently, Cult is the same a Dead Skin mask who's the same as Blood Red who's the same as Enter Sandman. Same riff, different variations. But....sounds good.
The real hammer here is Catatonic. heavy slayer like we like it. All thru the CD, there are little flashes of brilliance, but never all put together to create a work of anthology. It's Seasons in the Abyss sliding in the Abyss!! Not gone down yet, but certainly agonizing.
On 10, I would give it a 6. But whatever, I still enjoy picking up the old axe and playing their stuff, even the new one...
i liked a comment from earlier, i'm not pissed off that theyre voicing their opinion, it just pisses me off that they have to be so disrespectful to others beliefs... i honestly dont like anyone that says that theyre a christian and that satan "embodies himself in songs or lyrics"
satan has not been embodied in these lyrics, its just the pure hatred of christianity from some ass-hole that happens to be a good guitarist that has horrible stereotypes about christians, i CANNOT respect theyre opinion, because they have no respect for MY beliefs obviously
p.s. oh and no thats not true about tom singing and it being his lyrics....if you think that, then your just dumb and you need musical help. haha =P
Here's the bottom line. Tom Araya is the person standing at the microphone. It doesn't matter if he wrote the lyrics or not, HE'S SINGING THEM. And if he's Catholic or he doesn't agree with it, he wouldn't sing it. He could easily tell King to step aside and at least make the lyrics more intelligent. You can only say "F*** this", and "f*** that" so many times. So ripping on Araya or King doesn't matter. That's the same as saying even though Araya shot someone, it's King's gun. To say Araya doesn't participate in writing any of those particular brand of lyrics is ludicrous. He's just as guilty as King of producing hateful, disrespectful garbage. You are supporting bigotry by supporting them. Freedom of speech may have not its limits, but the lines of good taste and human decency have been drawn long before Slayer crossed them.
Oh, and have you listened to Christ Illusion? Slayer needs some serious musical help.
so all and all, both slayer and non-slayer fans are ****ing dicks, so drop this shit.
so just ****ing drop all the bullshit already. because yes the album is really bad and has a strong attack on things. but who gives a ****, this shit is bound to happen. so all you shit talking, christian or not just drop it, you dont like it then go bitch about it somewhere else.
As a part of the album, lyrics are subject to review. People have the right to display their views on the quality (or lack there of) of the lyrics, as well as the music, as a means of helping others to decide wether or not they wish to purchase the album. So please save your comments which are pretty much invalid.
I listened to this album on their myspace.
It was a good listen. Sure, it was repetitive, but that formula works for Slayer. Supremist impressed me the most - i liked it alot.
the second guy who reveiwed this is an idiot, though ill agree that tom ruin the songs with his terrible singing, but the lyrics for most of the songs are all written by Kerry King
Araya's voice is not any worse than it has been on previous albums. Personally, I don't find that it takes away from the music at all. There's always so much anger in his voice, and it's perfect when you just want to headbang.
also the second review is obviously religiously bias against the lyrics and slayer and therefor his review is completly unhelpful to those looking to buy the album.
but then again all of these reviews are pointless, if some has made up their mind to buy the album then I doubt these reviews will sway anyone away from it or draw anyone to it. Inevitably people will love something and people will hate it, and if they arent weak minded then their opionions wont be changed from two reviews.
ok last rant; Kerry King doesnt write the lyrics to offend people. He writes lyrics about what he believes and what he feels, the fact that he believes something so radically different from what is considered "normal" and the fact that Slayer is so sucessful with it is the reason people will be offended. Kerry is just expressing what he feels in his music and that is what it is all about.
This album owns, and I'm glad slayer is still unafraid to scare all the religious little pussies away. This album deserves a way higher rating, not that I truly care anyways, since reviews have never influenced me in any way at all.
I agree with Kerry King having a right to his opinion...he can believe whatever he wants, but I'm just confused why he doesn't think anyone else can have their own opinions and that he's the only one who's right? I mean, I guess he has a right to put into lyrics whatever he feels...I just think that he talks so much about religion spreading hate but at the same time he's no better than organized religion, he spreads hate just as much. Oh well.
you dont have to experience something first hand to write a song about it. James Hetfeild was never strapped in an electric chair but he wrote a damn good song about it
Why don't they call it Mohammad Illusion ? Because they have no balls, far easier to offend Christians. Bunch of wussies really, music is crap too...
the reason they dont call it that is because a majority of peaople in america are christian so i think its more fitting they attack christianity and i like to see you call kerry a "wussy" to his face and not sue after you get your ass kicked
the reason they dont call it that is because a majority of peaople in america are christian so i think its more fitting they attack christianity and i like to see you call kerry a "wussy" to his face and not sue after you get your ass kicked
Music good, lyrics crap, they think they know what they're singing about but they dont know shit. They think its cool to slag off christianity but what they dont realize is that whether they like it or not they will have to be accountable for what they sing about. True christians should be able to forgive them for this blasphemy so the more shit they come up with the more it can strengthen christianity.
Kerry doesn't like Christianity. I don't like Christianity. And I'm pretty ****ing sure we can say whatever the hell we want about it. So you can shove your blasphemy up your self-righteous holy ass. See if you can fit a couple Hail Mary's up there.
I agree with Kerry King having a right to his opinion...he can believe whatever he wants, but I'm just confused why he doesn't think anyone else can have their own opinions and that he's the only one who's right? I mean, I guess he has a right to put into lyrics whatever he feels...I just think that he talks so much about religion spreading hate but at the same time he's no better than organized religion, he spreads hate just as much. Oh well.
To put the whole situation into simple words...nobody is better than anybody. People say that they are just because they have the right to say what they want. Maybe someone is in a bad mood one day and says "f*ck christians" Big whoopty f*ckin do, letem say it, nobody has to listen to it if they dont want. Its just words anyways.
Ok, look, if the lyrics offend u, then stfu!!!!! Dont listen to the damn album!!! I'm a christian, but do I let the lyrics bother me? No, cuz they r just ****ing words!!!!! They write about wat they want to, and dont give a damn wat people think, and for that I respect them! But I dont respect anyone with these pathetic excuses to hate the album!!!!! In my opinion the album was great!!!!! Not the greatest, but great all the same.
and they didnt call it Mohammad Illusion because they said something like it's more funner to say something bad about god than like satan...(on the new slayer dvd) but you see they write stuff thats ****ed up in other peoples eyes, but right in theres. but you also got to remember that there stuff that kerry believes in....hes really ****ing evil. lol
so i dont blame him for saying what he wants, and im pretty sure he doesnt think he's right. he just has his own thought. but unlike some of us we can't get our shit heard like he can....so oh well who cares if hes right or wrong, or its ****ed up or its not. its all just music in the end....either way you look at it.
oh and the war shit that they wrote...they got inspired by a article with soldiers who dies...it showed pictures of people hurt, where thy were at, and how the sitiation was...so im pretty sure with jsut images and a article's you can write some pretty twisted and cruel stuff. ya know...like stephen king he sees things in his head and writes it out. theres nothing hard about doing that.
p.s. i did buy the album, i went to hot topics to get it when they were at there sign-in shit. but i came late, a cop pulled my friend over, so i didnt get to meet them myself sucks...i had alot of questions for kerry and jeff about the whole album and shit.
oh and the old stuff is better, the new one is ****ing amazing...i think it will rise somewhere. and correction to who ever wrote they had there days like metallica....your ****ing dumb man, mettalica never had a straight ****ing fan base for nearly 2 decades or so, **** slayer had there shit going since the start of reign and before i would say so...it never went down at all they kept there shit true.
but anyways the new stuff gets me pumped up alot. works for working out at the gym. ahahaha :]
to the both of you, no they do not at all...Kerry King even said so himself on the new GuitarWorld Magazine.
But there new shit on the album have D sharp, C sharp, and B sharp or whatever the **** it was called.
So no they dont....Just so you guys know and everyone else. =]
Well, after listening to the new album and trying to figure out the guitar part on one of the songs, it became pretty obvious that the guitars were tuned down to B, so make of that what you will.
Ok, look, if the lyrics offend u, then stfu!!!!! Dont listen to the damn album!!! I'm a christian, but do I let the lyrics bother me? No, cuz they r just ****ing words!!!!! They write about wat they want to, and dont give a damn wat people think, and for that I respect them! But I dont respect anyone with these pathetic excuses to hate the album!!!!! In my opinion the album was great!!!!! Not the greatest, but great all the same.
Holy sh*t, i found someone else who realizes the truth. Well said myfriend.
im dissapointed that they decieded to offend people and their religion just to sell more albums
If your offened buy this album, DONT LISTEN TO IT. and Kerry King didnt write those songs to offend people, he just has a strong opinion agaisnt organized religion
Couldn't have said it better myself.. He told people that he has a very very strong belief against organized religion and he just HAS to write about it .. He really doesn't care what some people think .. Like religious people anyways so.. Ya
Actually, I believe on several counts he has stated he writes lyrics to piss people off, although this doesnt mean that he doesnt believe what he writes. I love looking at this whole argument and laughing, because it gets so immature here. On the one side you have the people who are ridiculously easily offended by an album that is very obviously purely based on shock value, and on the other side, you have the people who really are adamantly anti-religious, but so much so that they try to enforce it on others more than the supposed "self righteous religious people" thye hate for "trying to enforce it on them". So, in a sense, both sides are wrong. If you find the stuff offensive, that's okay, just don't preach to others that it should be offensive to them. And if you like it and are truly anti-religious, that is okay, but again, don't preach to others to tell them they're wrong. Faith (or lack thereof) should be something decided upon by the individual, and the individual alone, and not pressured or forced by peers.
Okay, now for the music, I don't like Slayer, I'm not going to bash them though, as they obviously have talent of some sort to have such a diehard following. I do like Lombardo's drumming though, as I state on every post related to Slayer that I make.
My point was just that they are hypocrites and that dampens their music. lol, I don't care what they're hypocritical about, it just makes their music insincere and ruins the punch it has.
im dissapointed that they decieded to offend people and their religion just to sell more albums
If your offened buy this album, DONT LISTEN TO IT. and Kerry King didnt write those songs to offend people, he just has a strong opinion agaisnt organized religion
Couldn't have said it better myself.. He told people that he has a very very strong belief against organized religion and he just HAS to write about it .. He really doesn't care what some people think .. Like religious people anyways so.. Ya
Actually, I believe on several counts he has stated he writes lyrics to piss people off, although this doesnt mean that he doesnt believe what he writes. I love looking at this whole argument and laughing, because it gets so immature here. On the one side you have the people who are ridiculously easily offended by an album that is very obviously purely based on shock value, and on the other side, you have the people who really are adamantly anti-religious, but so much so that they try to enforce it on others more than the supposed "self righteous religious people" thye hate for "trying to enforce it on them". So, in a sense, both sides are wrong. If you find the stuff offensive, that's okay, just don't preach to others that it should be offensive to them. And if you like it and are truly anti-religious, that is okay, but again, don't preach to others to tell them they're wrong. Faith (or lack thereof) should be something decided upon by the individual, and the individual alone, and not pressured or forced by peers.
Okay, now for the music, I don't like Slayer, I'm not going to bash them though, as they obviously have talent of some sort to have such a diehard following. I do like Lombardo's drumming though, as I state on every post related to Slayer that I make.
yeah your right, stop shoveing it to others and i should know that because god or whatever the **** you want to call it was forced on me, and i ended up hateing him and all that he stands for. but i dont go off saying **** you to every christian person...not cool. but yeah nice point man. =]
to the both of you, no they do not at all...Kerry King even said so himself on the new GuitarWorld Magazine.
But there new shit on the album have D sharp, C sharp, and B sharp or whatever the **** it was called.
So no they dont....Just so you guys know and everyone else. =]
Well, after listening to the new album and trying to figure out the guitar part on one of the songs, it became pretty obvious that the guitars were tuned down to B, so make of that what you will.
lol, dude i ****ing said that, i said they were tuned to b sharp or whatever the **** it was again...i couldnt remember because i dont really bother with down tuning my guitar anymore...but i will next week. but i said that, and now that i realize it i dont even think b can go in b sharp....whatever.
lol, dude i ****ing said that, i said they were tuned to b sharp or whatever the **** it was again...i couldnt remember because i dont really bother with down tuning my guitar anymore...but i will next week. but i said that, and now that i realize it i dont even think b can go in b sharp....whatever.
sorry, i couldn't understand what you were trying to say, and b# is actually the same thing as c
First off, there is no B# note XD
your guitar neck: A A# B C C# D D# E F F# G G#
No B# =O I thought this was a guitar site *rolls eyes*
Anyway, Slayer to me, are bland and uninspired. I really don't like bands that outright try to shock you...mosts bands i've heard that are like that sound like garbage to me
An album of the same song over and over again tends to be a pile of worthless crap that never feel worth listening to
HybridCacaphony, if I was female i'd have your babies...that review was scathingly hilarious and I agree with a lot of the things you said. I'm no christian but I don't see the point in being angry and hating religion and I certainly don't see the need in writing songs to try and offend the followers of the certain religions. It's ****ing immature
you people need to calm down with the whole religion thing. its just a gimick to get little teenagers into buying theyre albums. and it works! theyre not really like that at home. i read in an interview once with tom, he said on 6/6/06, he didnt go out and collect goat heads or anthing, he went to go eat pizza with his family he said.
stfu they can do what they want, im sure you've never bothered to see it Kerry King's way, listen the songs, and maybe even you would think he has a good point, ridding the world of self-delusion, and even if you don't agree their not without good reason for what they do, so shut up and respect them you dumbass
i was talking to GiantRaven, on my last post, but shanerdoo its not a gimmick, they do what they want,Kerry writes the lyrics cuz thats how he feels and Tom sings em cuz he knows they're just words
well i don't like an albulm thats bad for the lord jesus christ it will not last long in the name of jesus christ the band will split and the album go down for the sortest reining album maybe in history divided from god you fall but with him you live forever
After reading this it took me quite a while to come up with a response because I was laughing so hard. Your telling me Jesus is gonna strike down Slayer and all the heathen non-believers that don't agree with every word he says? But Jesus is gonna let all the priests who stick their hands down altar boy's pants, and the churches that harbor run along free. If you ask me those are the bad people, not ****ing Slayer.
Another thing if you counted up the number of people killed in the name of the lord, and compare it to the number of people killed in the name of Satan, I think Jesus wins.
So you keep on trucking on your self-righteous crusade to burn witches and cleanse the world of evil when its really sitting right under your nose. And when the preacher bends you over, just smile and know you'll sit with God in Heaven.
sikejsudjek :
Why don't they call it Mohammad Illusion ? Because they have no balls, far easier to offend Christians. Bunch of wussies really, music is crap too...
Now this is just a guess on my part, but I believe the reason is because Mohammead was an actual person who really existed while the existance of Christ is still debated and acurte information on him is not readily availible. However the Muslims do acknowledge Jesus existance.
O, and orangepick, the christian god and allah are the same person/deity. Therefore you would blaspheming against your god. jsyk
First off, there is no B# note XD
your guitar neck: A A# B C C# D D# E F F# G G#
No B# =O I thought this was a guitar site *rolls eyes*
Actually, B# is the same note as C, and in sheet music certain keys have notes written as B# and E#, and Cb and Fb for that matter, since it is customary for there not to be the same letter twice in any key. And to mexichris, B# is the same pitch as C.
oh, and i thought i'd comment on all the arguing. i think the pro-slayer and anti-slayer peeps both lose for caring so much about a band that they will write essays defending/bashing it. seriously, find something better to do like, i don't know, play an instrument? sheesh
Alright, i've read far to much $hit. This is a good album. If you listen to ANY of Slayers lyrics you'll find that they're all dissing on something or someone or about some disgusting thing like Dead Skin Mask. haha. but thats what you gotta LOVE about Slayer, is that they can just come out and write all this stuff, have it be in the Billboard Top 10, and sell a $hit load. If your just going to bash on Slayer for having anti- christian lyrics, you shouldnt be anywhere near metal/rock/anything with a distorted guitar. This is Slayers antichristian album, deal with it. They still effin rock, and no one is gonna tell them to write otherwise, or Slayer will just tell them to F**K OFF! Seriously, Kerry King said that they would say that. Haha
'Actually, B# is the same note as C, and in sheet music certain keys have notes written as B# and E#, and Cb and Fb for that matter, since it is customary for there not to be the same letter twice in any key. And to mexichris, B# is the same pitch as C.'
'because you called it ****ing imatture, he can do what he wants, and how is voicing your opinoin immature?'
There are plenty of less volatile and less offensive ways of showing your opinion than writing lyrics that are meant to be volatile and offensive. Is there really any need whatsoever to inspire that kind of hate towards anyone? He could just say 'I don't like religion' and be done with it, that's what I do.
But no, he has to use his so-called hate to write lyrics which are just plain needless. If thats not immature, I don't know what is. I'm sure i'm being quite immature in the way i'm voicing my opinion just as much as he is.
We both have the rights to voice our own opinions, Kerry King voicing his about his hate towards christianity and me towards him for the way he voices it. Whats the big problem with that?
Hell, I don't know why i'm bothereing to write all this out...
Damn! Who the guy of the 2nd review is? Cause I`m sure as hell he doesn`t know sh*t about thrash or metal. He even has the nerve to claim that anybody can do what Slayer has in the past 2 decades. Well let me be the first to tell you. NO ONE HASN`T EVEN REMOTELY DONE AS MUCH FOR METAL AS SLAYER. But since you sound so sure about your review I`ll tell what the deal is. Why don`t you form your own band, redefine the genre you play, stay strong for your convictions for 25 years and then we can all discuss how many classics you recorded, about you reputation and your contributions to music?
well i don't like an albulm thats bad for the lord jesus christ it will not last long in the name of jesus christ the band will split and the album go down for the sortest reining album maybe in history divided from god you fall but with him you live forever
Just like he split them up after Reign in Blood? You're the reason Kerry King hates Christians.
tremonty_slayer wrote:
Damn! Who the guy of the 2nd review is? Cause I`m sure as hell he doesn`t know sh*t about thrash or metal. He even has the nerve to claim that anybody can do what Slayer has in the past 2 decades. Well let me be the first to tell you. NO ONE HASN`T EVEN REMOTELY DONE AS MUCH FOR METAL AS SLAYER. But since you sound so sure about your review I`ll tell what the deal is. Why don`t you form your own band, redefine the genre you play, stay strong for your convictions for 25 years and then we can all discuss how many classics you recorded, about you reputation and your contributions to music?
Damn! Who the guy of the 2nd review is? Cause I`m sure as hell he doesn`t know sh*t about thrash or metal. He even has the nerve to claim that anybody can do what Slayer has in the past 2 decades. Well let me be the first to tell you. NO ONE HASN`T EVEN REMOTELY DONE AS MUCH FOR METAL AS SLAYER. But since you sound so sure about your review I`ll tell what the deal is. Why don`t you form your own band, redefine the genre you play, stay strong for your convictions for 25 years and then we can all discuss how many classics you recorded, about you reputation and your contributions to music?
So making similar sounding stuff over and over is 'redefining genres'?
To the dumbass who wrote the second review: The bad lyrics aren't Arraya's fault because he hardly writes any of the lyrics, it's king's fault, he is the main songwriter in the band. Arraya just sings it, he doesn't come up with much of it though.
I bet if Jesus came back and said he has no problem with slayer and actually enjoys some of their music every single person against slayer would stop bashing them and state how much you enjoy the album. That's one reason Kerry King is against organized religion, almost all organized religion followers will alter there opinions and views for there faith, will defend there faith, and not all but a lot try to get everyone around them to do the same as them for god. Also religion is the cause of almost every single war in history. The main reason I am not religious is every religion that has a god states, if you don?t believe in our religion, accept it, and live by it, even if you are the best person in the world you go to hell.
Anyway... this album is great. Its slayer, either you love them or hate them.
Alright, Im pissed at the guy who wrote the second review. Obviously, he has no idea that Tom Araya is A CATHOLIC!!! He/She/It has no idea that Kerry is the one that wrote most of the lyrics! Tom only wrote Eyes of the Insane you dumb faggot!!! YOU DONT DESERVE TO WRITE A SLAYER REVIEW!!!!! Besides, youve probably never heard any other Slayer album! Listen to Reign in Blood, and then say Slayer sucks!!!!
Signed,
A Pissed off Kid!!
South of heaven and seasons of the abyss are way better albums in my opinion. The music is ruined in reign in blood due to arraya screaming over all the cool parts, but songs like criminally insane, angel in death and raining blood kick ass though, but the rest is not as memorable. The guy that wrote the second review seemed to know jack shit about slayer or metal in general, he should go back to listening to his coldplay and Asia.
I'm sorry...but why do people keep saying that kerry king is a christian, theres no way. read all of slayers lyrics read them all and you tell me that he's christian... on another note.. i saw this album in best buy today, i was thinkin about buyin it but i got silent civilian instead, they are great lol
Personally, i dont like this kind of metal. But, im not gonna trash em. they can spread their hatred towards religion all they want. its sort of like green day, sending a message about george bush. but, i hate george bush too, so it works out. im not religious, but i have nothing against those who are. theyre like any other band. theyre expressing what they want to.
GiantRaven hes not immature, hes passionate in his hatred for the religon, if u don't like it don't listen so, every1 who doesn't like the CD don't buy it and don't leave a comment, u just wanna start an argument expressing ur lack of intelligence
hey i have an grand idea, instead of having people who don't like the cd write reviews and leave comments, let's only let the people who like slayer and the cd leave reviews and comments so that everyone on this page can get an ego boost!
Does anyone else feel that this is sort of an abuse of freedom of speech? Slayer are four guys born in a country where they can get away with what they do, so they behave like spoiled child and abuse this priveledge. It's sad when one of the biggest metal acts of all time stoops this low to try to sell an album. It's kinda like their way of selling out. These lyrics are just a weak composition of the most religiously offensive lyrics King could think of. Maybe it's because he lacks the ability to make people think. Wanting people crucified because they have religion? It's like they're trying to prove that they're "metal" or something. The whole album seems pathetic to me. They could have done so much better. This is by far the shittiest shit that Slayer has ever shat.
Alright, Im pissed at the guy who wrote the second review. Obviously, he has no idea that Tom Araya is A CATHOLIC!!! He/She/It has no idea that Kerry is the one that wrote most of the lyrics! Tom only wrote Eyes of the Insane you dumb faggot!!! YOU DONT DESERVE TO WRITE A SLAYER REVIEW!!!!! Besides, youve probably never heard any other Slayer album! Listen to Reign in Blood, and then say Slayer sucks!!!!
Signed,
A Pissed off Kid!!
I said in the beginning I walked into this objectively. I haven't listened to Slayer beyond songs like Reign in Blood or Angel of Death, because I never found them interesting. So imagine my surprise when I hear a song like that which is at least halfway decent and then I hear the songs on Christ Illusion. Quite a difference. But one or two good songs doesn't mean they're amazing. And I can write a Slayer review if I want. With all the noise people make about them, my first venture into them was garbage. And I don't plan on listening to any more.
As for Kerry King writing all the lyrics or whatever, please understand, I don't care about Slayer. They're really nothing all that special to me. I wasn't about to sit down and do a month's worth of research to put up a review that said- hey, this album sucks. They can say whatever they want, it doesn't affect me in any way- it never has. I know they like to offend people, and I know it's always been anti-Christian stuff for the most part. So since I had no idea who wrote the lyrics, I just assumed the singer did, since I knew he wrote Eyes of the Insane. My mistake. But again, it's really not that big of a deal- just put Kerry King's name where it belongs when you read the review. In the end, I felt that the singer's voice was just abbrasive and took away from the overall quality of the songs (which was not the case in any of the Slayer songs I was previously familiar with).
Yeah, and about Tom Araya being a Catholic. I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to do the things he's been doing (you know, like openly denouncing his religion- regardless of who write the lyrics he's singing)
I'll be honest, I thought this might be a decent album- but it wasn't. I really, sincerely thought it was garbage.
I bet if Jesus came back and said he has no problem with slayer and actually enjoys some of their music every single person against slayer would stop bashing them and state how much you enjoy the album. That's one reason Kerry King is against organized religion, almost all organized religion followers will alter there opinions and views for there faith, will defend there faith, and not all but a lot try to get everyone around them to do the same as them for god. Also religion is the cause of almost every single war in history. The main reason I am not religious is every religion that has a god states, if you don?t believe in our religion, accept it, and live by it, even if you are the best person in the world you go to hell.
Actually, Christianity doesn't specify that you go to hell. But all that aside, if Jesus (who Christians FOLLOW, and Slayer constantly attacks) came back and said that, yeah, people probably would tone it down. But then again, if He came back, people probably would be really annoyed with Slayer, since all this time they've been up there saying He doesn't exist.
gonzorules :
HybridCacaphony needs to take a serious look in the mirror, and ask "why am i such a worthless piece of s*#t".
Okay... why are you such a worthless piece of shit?
I'll be honest, i havent listened to the album and have never been into slayer that much, i love all types of music from death metal to rock to soft rock to pop to hootie and the blowfish, good music is good music no matter what form it is in.
Then you're gonna hate this album.
But all I read in this review was a bunch of piss-ant, whiny, stupid remarks about a band that has lasted longer than most of there fans have been alive. why don't you give them credit and respect for that you f*&!@n p*#$k
Just because they're ancient doesn't mean they deserve respect. And for the amount of respect they show others, they don't really deserve it.
If you pathetic ass had even half of there skill, you sure as hell wouldn't be writing reviews on an internet tab site.
I definitely have more than half their skill, but I just play recreationally. I'm not looking to be a guitarist for a living. I just like to play for fun. But you're write, if I had any more skill, I probably wouldn't be writing a review on an internet tab site... I'd probably be on stage telling people I think Slayer sucks. Alas, I just wrote this for fun. Too bad you're so super-sensitive. [/quote]
[/quote]you're probably just mad that you still live in your parents basement, eat top ramen all day, work at Joe's bbq pit, tire center, and hair salon, and still breast feed you piece of s*#t. [/quote]
Actually, I'm 19, I go to college and work for an engineering company par
part time during the summer, and I don't breast feed. Hope I cleared that up.
if i knew where you lived, I would spit in your mouth while you slept you dog d&%k sucking motherf$#@^r.
Good thing you don't then, huh? Also, I hope you know with every passing word, you seem even less intelligent.
I hate arogant people like you who can't do anything themselves but trash on people that do.
I don't have any desire to do what Slayer does, but I could, since it's really not all that complicated. And I trashed on them, because that's what their album was- trash.
Why don't you go to one of there shows, go backstage, and tell them what you said in the review in person. Oh, thats right, you're a pussy.
I would actually LOVE to tell them I think they suck. I'd do it right to their face if I could. Because they're just regular people. I have no reason to be afraid of them. I would jump at the opportunity.
And you want to talk about intelligence, half of your review was spelled wrong you worthless hypocrite.
Have you read the rambling, unpunctuated, drivel you wrote? I'm not sure you even know how to spell. And I'm not sure you wrote all of this without help. You can talk to me about intelligence when every other word isn't an insult, but rather some form of educated argument.
And you want to rag on them for doing some music that sounds like what they did before, hey dumbass, it's metal, half the stuff out there isnt original but it still sounds good and gets your blood flowing. That's what matters most in this genre of music, the ability to get the crowd moving, so we can forget the crap going on in our lives for just a little bit, and have a good time.
That's respectable, and there's nothing wrong with that. If you enjoy it, fine. I didn't write the review to change your opinion. The review reflects my opinion of their music. I feel that from a musical perspective, the album is sorely lacking, and does not deliver anything all that special. If you love it, fine. I'm not saying you shouldn't. But I did not enjoy that album musically. I felt it was trash. I think you're missing the point of an ALBUM REVIEW.
And do you really think that when any of us metal fans listen to lyrics, that we are worried about the meaning or what the hell they are saying, most of the time we cant understand it anyway but it doesn't matter, i just want to bang my head around as much as possible.
Okay, see that's YOU. I didn't write this review only for YOU. See, some people who are not YOU, do care about lyrics. Some people's listening experience is actually affected one way or another by the content of what the singer is saying. Otherwise, Ultimate Guitar wouldn't have put a LYRICS section in. I reviewed the lyrics because they are on the ALBUM which I was REVIEWING and they fit in the LYRICS REVIEW section. Does that make sense? I'm not sure I can really break it down any more. Try not to be so egotistical. It's not all about you.
But, in the end, you should realize that every musician deserves the respect from all of us for doing what they do and making our lives just a little better
I disagree. Some musicians don't deserve respect. Some musicians are talentless. I'm sure you don't respect Ashlee Simpson as a musician. Well, to me Slayer has just turned out something in that vein. And to be honest, this album made me not respect them.
and reviewers like you, i hope you get raped in an alley by five german skinheads named Hans who give you a Dirty Sanchez when they're done.
That last part just makes you sound like an idiot.
There is a lot more i would like to say, but unlike this guy, i have better things to do with my time than rag on someone who is better than me, your review just pissed me off enough to have to say something back.
Don't lie, you ran out of steam... And there wasn't a need to say anything back. You didn't convince me to change my mind, and my opinion about the album still stands. For some reason, you and a myriad of other people are taking this personally.
Eat s&*t and die you self righteous bastard, it's just music.
And this is just a review. I didn't go and kill Slayer, I just said I think their new album is lame. And I think it's really awful music. But again, it's my OPINION, just like the review.
The funniest thing is that the same people who say "Slayer can say whatever they want! It's their opinion!" are the same ones writing all of these negative responses. I don't like the album. And I'm allowed to write a negative review. I'm not going to say "hey, this album isn't so good, but it's not bad either," when I sincerely think that it's a waste of time.
Grow up people. Seriously. It's an album. If you like Slayer fine. I don't like this album. I don't like Slayer now either. Truth be told, I listen to quite a broad range of stuff, but I'm more of a fan of b
bands like In Flames or Children of Bodom, where there's a little more going on musically and the guitars are a little more diverse. I was not aware that Slayer's music was so boring. But I want to share my opinion of the album for people who are in the same boat as me.
As much as i like Slayer,and Tom Araya and all that....HybridCacaphony,you're review ****in owned. It was perfectly critical without being too insulting,and it was very insightful. I havent actually heard the album yet,but ive heard its pretty good. I shall listen with your review in mind. Cheers!
hybridcacaphony is right, he is allowed to write a review on an album he listened to, whether the review be positive or negative. after all, it's just his opinion. i personally thought the album was pretty good, but that doesn't mean i need to talk shit about this guy for having a different opinion than me. and many of you sound like hypocrites telling hybrid that 'slayer can say whatever the **** they want, but you can't'. another thing, what would be the purpose of having all positive reviews and comments for this album? to boost your egos?! seriously, a lot of you need to get over yourselves and realize that people are allowed to have an opinion that is different than your own. the world would be pretty lame if everyone thought exactly alike
Yeah i also agreed with hybridcacaphony on how he said in his review that the song cult was just a cry for notice, I also agree that the anti-religious and anti-government is wearing out...people need to start new lyrics, something that can be brutal, and not Droning about "ahh i hate christians, god is gay etc etc". I really do enjoy slayers "reigning blood" but after that i just cant get over kerry king drop tuning his guitar to a fricken drop A flat playing the same structured powerchoards over and over while later he takes a normal pentatonic based scale and calls that a solo. yes, it does get very annoying, If you want real talent without the offensive lyrics you should check out inflames, and scar symmetry and a new band called silent civilian. that is it, Peace.
Bottom line: the new Slayer album is okay at best. I'm not impressed all that much. We wait 5 years and this is what we get! The guitar solos sound exactly the same as the one's from Divine Intervention, Diabolus, and GHUA. Besides, it's kind of corny for a bunch of older guys to be still singing about Satan... it's not 1986 anymore, and Tom Araya is like 46 already.
Listen, I'm a diehard Christian, and I'm a Slayer fan. I respect King's opinion and I don't let the lyrics bother me. My advice: Don't let these lyrics get to your head, regardless of your views, I've seen videos where King and Hanneman say that alot of the lyrics are for shock value. And just for the people who don't know, I'm pretty sure that they (Slayer) use a method of holding a mirror up to society (figurately) and write about it. In summation, if you get offended by this than just keep your views to yourself and enjoy yourself.
MHanky :
Hybrid Cacaphony needs to shut the **** up and stop defending every little comment that is made negatively towards him. No one cares dude, and you doing this is just going to piss more people off. But I do have one question, if you don't like SLayer, or aren't even interested in them, why did you write a review on the album? Do u do this with every band, or just ones you hate?
Haha, this is the first review I wrote for Ultimate Guitar. And needless to say I'm a little surprised by the reaction, cuz I haven't seen these responses on other album reviews that I've read. Who knew?
Listen, I'm a diehard Christian, and I'm a Slayer fan. I respect King's opinion and I don't let the lyrics bother me. My advice: Don't let these lyrics get to your head, regardless of your views, I've seen videos where King and Hanneman say that alot of the lyrics are for shock value. And just for the people who don't know, I'm pretty sure that they (Slayer) use a method of holding a mirror up to society (figurately) and write about it. In summation, if you get offended by this than just keep your views to yourself and enjoy yourself.
I completly agree with you. People get too bothered by lyrics these days, it's just words people.
HybridCacaphony wrote:
MHanky :
Hybrid Cacaphony needs to shut the **** up and stop defending every little comment that is made negatively towards him. No one cares dude, and you doing this is just going to piss more people off. But I do have one question, if you don't like SLayer, or aren't even interested in them, why did you write a review on the album? Do u do this with every band, or just ones you hate?
Haha, this is the first review I wrote for Ultimate Guitar. And needless to say I'm a little surprised by the reaction, cuz I haven't seen these responses on other album reviews that I've read. Who knew?
It's cause slayer fans take their music seriously, a little too seriously at times.
I like to listen to slayer when I'm sitting around having a few cold ones, but by the sounds of it, other people listen to slayer while sitting in their dungeon with their red velvet robe on with a burning cross in their hands chanting "Thy holy king, Thy holy King" while the wall behind them is dripping in blood that reads 666.
To me, if songs are about puppy dogs and red tricycles or satan and the apocolypse, at the end of the day it's just music.
HybridCacaphony is a douche
Kerry King wrote most of the lyrics for this album as well as the last. Granted this isnt slayer's best album, but at least its nowhere near as shitty as load, reload or st. anger
Alright, Im pissed at the guy who wrote the second review. Obviously, he has no idea that Tom Araya is A CATHOLIC!!! He/She/It has no idea that Kerry is the one that wrote most of the lyrics! Tom only wrote Eyes of the Insane you dumb faggot!!! YOU DONT DESERVE TO WRITE A SLAYER REVIEW!!!!! Besides, youve probably never heard any other Slayer album! Listen to Reign in Blood, and then say Slayer sucks!!!!
Signed,
A Pissed off Kid!!
South of heaven and seasons of the abyss are way better albums in my opinion. The music is ruined in reign in blood due to arraya screaming over all the cool parts, but songs like criminally insane, angel in death and raining blood kick ass though, but the rest is not as memorable. The guy that wrote the second review seemed to know jack shit about slayer or metal in general, he should go back to listening to his coldplay and Asia.
Haha. Yeah, South of Heaven is a good album, almost forgot it. In my opinion Reign in Blood is a totally good album, and I think that every song is a master peice, but thats just me!
This is in response to HybridCacaphony's review...
First of all, Araya doesn't write the ****in lyrics, you dumbass. King does. I could honestly give a **** less if you like the record or not. That's your own opinion and that's cool. But at least get your ****in facts straight before you go off on another moronic tangent like you did about Araya which cleary has no basis since he's not the one writing the lyrics. Do your ****in homework next time and maybe try using half a brain before you go off ranting in another review and ending up making yourself look like a complete dumb****. You're a ****in ignorant, uneducated tool. Go crank up your P.O.D. and Creed or whatever Jesus rock you listen to and stop displaying to the world your complete ignorance and lack of intelligence by attempting to review Slayer. Eat a dick, bitch. And go **** yourself.
hybridcacaphony is right, he is allowed to write a review on an album he listened to, whether the review be positive or negative. after all, it's just his opinion. i personally thought the album was pretty good, but that doesn't mean i need to talk shit about this guy for having a different opinion than me. and many of you sound like hypocrites telling hybrid that 'slayer can say whatever the **** they want, but you can't'. another thing, what would be the purpose of having all positive reviews and comments for this album? to boost your egos?! seriously, a lot of you need to get over yourselves and realize that people are allowed to have an opinion that is different than your own. the world would be pretty lame if everyone thought exactly alike
You know what? Im gonna come out and be a man and say that this guy does have a point. But one of the main reasons that theyre bashing Hybrid,was because he had alot of his facts messed up, such as Tom Araya writing the lyrics. Everyone knows Kerry write all of the Satan stuff.
The new album is the same old rehashed shit they've been putting out for years. Any one of these song could've been on seasons in the abyss or god hates us all -and no one would know the difference. Slayer talks the talk, but they don't walk the walk when it comes to doing something new or different. They trash new bands for all sounding the same and being unoriginal, then they put out this album that sounds like everything they've done before. I think the album is a snooze. It's all been downhill since War Ensemble.
HybridCacphony, why even bother reviewing this CD if you clearly don't like Slayer or know anything about them? Kerry King and Jeff Hanneman write most of the songs and Tom Araya IS Catholic. As well, Tom Araya is one of the defining features of Slayer so if you don't like his singing, you might as well go listen to some other band.
HybridCacphony, why even bother reviewing this CD if you clearly don't like Slayer or know anything about them? Kerry King and Jeff Hanneman write most of the songs and Tom Araya IS Catholic. As well, Tom Araya is one of the defining features of Slayer so if you don't like his singing, you might as well go listen to some other band.
reviewing albums isn't just for the good ones. you don't see magazine reviewers saying "oh, i'm not gonna review that, its bad"
also the second review is obviously religiously bias against the lyrics and slayer and therefor his review is completly unhelpful to those looking to buy the album.
..... ~.~ the album is obviously biased against christians... it doesnt give any of them a chance... that was a stupid comment
Lol I've not listened to this album, and I don't think I'll be buying it, although a huge fan of Slayer. The really long review was quite funny to read, although deffinately written by someone who really dislikes Slayer. I've heard Cult and Flesh Storm, outof the two Flesh Storm is the best, all the guitar solos sound like they've been lifted out of Angel of Death though, since Kerry has been 'learning' how to play guitar properly recently I was hoping for a more intelligent approach to shredding, Dimebag could do it so it is possible! I'd also like to add I am really disappointed with the extremely childish lyric " I've made my choice, 666!?. Still love Slayer though, but I won't be thrashing out to any of their new stuff at their gig soon :p
all i know is this album is awesome!
even after 24 years they're still dishing out great stuff and stirring up controversy
seriously if ur offended by this album u shld probably go out and buy a nice green day album to send u off to sleep
seeing slayer 19th november - brixton
fukin be there
Awesome.would be unfair to expect another reign in blood but still good.
Thats true, most people compare bands newest album or release to their standout ones, i.e. master of puppets or reign in blood, so take the album for what it is not what another album was, anyway, i think this album kicks ass!!
i have to say the album was horrible... not because of the style of music(these guys are the best at what they do) but because of the complete lack of artistic expression. ok, i get it. slayer hates jesus. and...?
also, the music apart from the drums is seriously lacking.
this and all their is sloppy as hell. to me being fast is actually being able to keep the phuck up. this phucking slopfest is again uninspring and it has to be a ****ing joke. Considering how there is such a LARGE multitude of dumb-phuck stoners and "goths" and "satanist" who "believe" this bullshit they churn from their anal crevies. It doesnt make any sense how you hate everyone/thing when there's a massive number of dumb-phucks who believe the same shit they do. And also it makes no sense to say im going for the opposite team of something I dont believe in or doesnt exsist.
HybridCacaphony :
p.s. oh and no thats not true about tom singing and it being his lyrics....if you think that, then your just dumb and you need musical help. haha =P
Here's the bottom line. Tom Araya is the person standing at the microphone. It doesn't matter if he wrote the lyrics or not, HE'S SINGING THEM. And if he's Catholic or he doesn't agree with it, he wouldn't sing it. He could easily tell King to step aside and at least make the lyrics more intelligent. You can only say "F*** this", and "f*** that" so many times. So ripping on Araya or King doesn't matter. That's the same as saying even though Araya shot someone, it's King's gun. To say Araya doesn't participate in writing any of those particular brand of lyrics is ludicrous. He's just as guilty as King of producing hateful, disrespectful garbage. You are supporting bigotry by supporting them. Freedom of speech may have not its limits, but the lines of good taste and human decency have been drawn long before Slayer crossed them.
Oh, and have you listened to Christ Illusion? Slayer needs some serious musical help.
so all and all, both slayer and non-slayer fans are ****ing dicks, so drop this shit.
so just ****ing drop all the bullshit already. because yes the album is really bad and has a strong attack on things. but who gives a ****, this shit is bound to happen. so all you shit talking, christian or not just drop it, you dont like it then go bitch about it somewhere else.
As a part of the album, lyrics are subject to review. People have the right to display their views on the quality (or lack there of) of the lyrics, as well as the music, as a means of helping others to decide wether or not they wish to purchase the album. So please save your comments which are pretty much invalid.
HybridCacophony,you're definately the biggest douche i've seen on here...i bet you listen to nickelback or some gay f*ckin sh*t like that eh??you f*ckin cocksuckin little bitch...who the f*ck bashes Slayer like that?The one true thrash band that never sold out...At least they never released mainstream garbage albums like Metallica...they always kept doin their own thing, shreddin it up through all the years and that's pretty admirable...so f*ck you bitch,go listen to your f*ckin fairy music,while you take it up the ass.
I just love the fact that all the pansy-assed "christians" seem too get pretty riled up about this shite. What do you think normal, grounded in reality types feel like when you spew your constant god rhetoric?
I say, without having read all the comments, this album sucks. Mr. HybridCacaphony and Mr. ilovemyepi, IMO, are completely right. In fact, HybridCacaphony wrote one of the best reviews I ever read over here; people should take note of this and use it as a guide for their own review, instead of just jumping the wagon and praising Slayer 'cause Slayer.
The album sucks, deal with it. Every goddamned on this freaking album is either out of tune, not on the beat, completely unemotional shredding (Well, not even that, seems like they're just hitting random notes over and over again, not even hitting them all); or all of the above, on at least 2 tracks. I felt, at one point, that I was listening to the shitty band that rehearses near my hanging-out spot in terms of musicality. Don't get me wrong, I like (Or used to like) Slayer a lot, me and my band even do a decent AoD cover, but King and Hanneman just lost it at this point.
I JUS CANT UNDERSTAND WHY PEPOLE HAVE SO MUCH PROBLEM WHEN IT COMES TO SLAYER....EVERY OTHER DEATH METAL OR THRASH BAND HAVE LYRICS ABOUT SATAN N STUFF...N SOMEHOW ONLY SLAYER SUCK COS THEY ALSO HAVE LYRICS LIKE THAT??? IMO..THIS IS A DECENT ALBUM..NOT ONE OF THEIR BEST..BUT STILL KICKASS... HOW CAN U B A METAL FAN N NOT LIKE TRACKS LIKE FLESH STORM...EYES OF THE INSANE...JIHAD...CULT...N BTW .. DID 1 OF THE REVIEWER ABOVE COMMENT THAT SLAYER HAVE WRITTEN FRM A SOLDIER'S POINT OF VIEW 'EYES OF THE INSANE' JUS COS EVERYONE ELSE IS DOIN IT??? OK SERIOUSLY I CAN SEE U DON LIKE SLAYER...I'M SURE...U DONT EVEN LIKE REIGN IN BLOOD OR SEASONS IN THE ABYSS..REALLY IF U LIKE SLAYER...U'LL LIKE THIS ALBUM..SLAYER IS LIKE...U EITHER LOVE 'EM...OR U HATE 'EM...N YA ABOUT "THEM BEIN POSERS .. COS TOM'S CATHOLIC..BUT THEY STILL WRITE SATANIC SHIT" TOPIC...U CANT SERIOUSLY BELIEVE THAT THEY LIVE ACCORDING TO WAT THEY SAY?? I MEAN COME ON...HAVE U HEARD THE BAND ACHERON?? THEY HAVE A VOCALIST WHO IS A PRIEST...N JUS CHECK OUT THEIR LYRICS....HAVE U HEARD VEHEMENCE?? THEIR VOCALIST IS LORD KRISHNA'S FOLLOWER..THATS HOW EVERYONE IS...SO WHY ONLY SLAYER IS FLAMED?? I ENJOY THIS ALBUM..AS MUCH AS THEIR OLDER STUFFS
HybridCacaphony, is the biggest twat ever he has no sense of taste! he is a douche, sure this isnt there atrongest album but theres some damned good tracks on there!! an if u say otherwise.....well **** u, u wanna be. go listen to justin timberlake! slayer are one of the best bands ever an i bet they write better shit than u.
BLACK SERENADE KICKS ASS AND I BET IF ARAYA NEW YOU HE'D PUMMEL U U PIECE OF SHIT!
Meh, it's okay. I'm a Slayer fan but this album was a little disappointing. Nothing new with the guitars. It's cool that Dave Lombardo is back. I never gave a rat's a** about their lyrics in the first place so they don't really offend me. Seasons in the Abyss: good album. Christ Illusion: essentially Seasons in the Abyss Part II, and like most sequals it doesn't measure up.
That HybridCacaphony guy really doesn't like this album does he :/
I think you took everything too literally. Slayer's lyrics aren't a statement of its member's beliefs. If you happened to read the interview with Kerry in [Metal] Hammer then you'd realise the lyrics are intended to be controversial, to get people fired up. They aren't a window into the religious beliefs of Slayer. Granted that they lack originality and Tom's voice isn't all that toneful, but it's Slayer's sound & its what the fans love. To be honest it took me a while to get into this album, not being a huge Slayer fan myself. But its true old fashioned home grown thrash metal, you gotta love it (: though I'd still prefer Reign in Blood or South of Heaven
The album serves it's purpose to shock and offend. I'm not satanic nor atheist...but I take the album for what it is...good entertainment. As Kerry King and Tom Araya said..."we have nothing against God...but doing songs about satan is just way more fun"
Guys...you need to lighten up...it's a Slayer album!
Music good, lyrics crap, they think they know what they're singing about but they dont know shit. They think its cool to slag off christianity but what they dont realize is that whether they like it or not they will have to be accountable for what they sing about. True christians should be able to forgive them for this blasphemy so the more shit they come up with the more it can strengthen christianity.
Dont push your beliefs on people by saying "They will have the be held accountable" and shit. They dont belive what you do. why would they be scared of it? Your a part of ONE of the THOUSANDS of exsisting religions, its nothing special, just another group who is brainwashing the masses.
I think this album is great, I love the guitars, love the vocals, drums, bass everything.
Why don't they call it Mohammad Illusion ? Because they have no balls, far easier to offend Christians. Bunch of wussies really, music is crap too...
Dude, have you seen how insane the muslims get if you **** with Muhammad? In the past, people have been assasinated and/or recieved death sentences for simply joking about their prophet. Just because they took the slightly easier path of religious criticism, doesn't mean they should be called "wussies" for it.
Why don't they call it Mohammad Illusion ? Because they have no balls, far easier to offend Christians. Bunch of wussies really, music is crap too...
what!? they can call it what ever the **** they want to call it... its their cd not yours... when your as good as slayer and makin cd's you can call it what ever you want... untill then i wouldint talk shit about one of the most sucsesfull metal bands in the WORLD
For that comment up there about "brainwashing the masses" we most certainly do not. I probably will get laughed off this page because I don't listen to this. I have a kind, none-imposing comment. We don't believe in "imposing our beliefs" or "brainwash". We also don't believe in slandering peaceful religions that don't kill people for heresy or judge people for their differences. True christians believe what they believe and gently yet boldy share only to people who want to know about it. We did nothing to derserve this hostility.
I think HybridCacaphony has never been the type to actually listen to metal. First of all, I just felt like doing this cause it bugged me, it's not "iconic devotion", it's "psychotic devotion". Tom's singing isn't bad at all either. He sounds just the way he did back in the 80's! And the part that says he writes lyrics that are good for idiots! Man, I'm speechless. You sound like the kid at my school who craves for attention, he's a retard you know. I don't need to say more.
I hate people who like a band and can't admit they maybe they made a piece of crap album...there is nothing "unerrated" about this album. I've always thought slayer have been good, but nothing to special, and this album's just masochism to the ears. (But not the good kind of ear pain)
~Love, Dallas~
okay i am catholic, i listen to alot of slayer...this album is definately not like reign in blood but it's still good. Now, as of the orginal cover, it did piss me off okay? really don't mess up jesus really you just don't do that. Other than that good cd. Sure slayer isn't exactly the nicest band out there or the most christian, but imagery is imagery. Okay i made my mom understand that point now she let's me listen to slayer. Sure a bunch of you will say who listens to their mom? well i'm a thirteen year old momma's boy who listens to ****in slayer and i'm proud!!!!!
CI is the best album they have done since Seasons!!
I RECON! True that brother this album rips and crushes the Divine interevention-God Hates Us All period easily with its return to thashy speed and despite what anyone thinks killer lyrics.
If Hanneman and King wrote the lyrics why doesn't one of them sing it would have to be a little better than Araya's voice since you can't get much shittier. CI's music sucks and the guitar solos are absolutely horrible. Araya raves about satan and hatred to try to cover up the fact he has no talent. I wanted to get Reign In Blood which should be a lot better than this especially if the songs are all the quality of Raining Blood. The song still has Tom Araya's bad voice but the kick ass guitars make up for it. This CD's combination of Araya's voice and shitty repetitive guitar makes it terrible.
Why don't they call it Mohammad Illusion ? Because they have no balls, far easier to offend Christians. Bunch of wussies really, music is crap too...
they live in america and there are alot more christains in america, and kerry king dislikes aspects of christainity, and they can do w/e they want stfu ur an idiot, and you ever think that they known more about christainity then islam, so they can make an educated opinion, shut up and don't buy the CD, im sure they wouldn't want you to, you uneducated douche
Well said. What a lot of people here can't seem to realize is that, living in the US, there are LOTS of Christians. Whether this is a good or bad thing is up to you, but the fact remains that Christians are prevalent here. Much more so than muslims. If Slayer were from the Middle East, then I'd agree. It would make much more sense to name their CD Mohammad Illusion. But, they aren't, and they didn't. It's ridiculous to criticize them for it. If you don't like it, don't listen to it.
People are idiots for giving this anything less than 6. Its not exactly a great album, fair enough - but come on, let not forget the abysmal efforts that were 'Divine Intervention' and 'Diabolus in Musica'...
Slayer is one of the best metal bands out there but when I listened to Christ Illusion, I was like WTF. A very mediocre album. This is not of a SLAYER standard.
Season in the abyss, rein in ****ing blood, hell awaits, south of heaven, etc are of Slayer standard. With Megadeth releasing a good album, United Abomination, hopefully it will say to bands like Slayer and Metallica to release a ****ing great album.
Tom is a liar, abseloutly he is. how it's possible one who screams: "this is god's war... ****in god's war" be a catholic. you're a ****ing idiot, stupid son of a bitch.
long time slayer fan here and i am very dissatified with christ illusion. very boring. each song had maybe one good riff or a song would start off promising only to falter into dismal oblivion of rehash! i'm not religous in any form and am not against antireligion lyrics but these are just horrid! just listen to the older slayer lyrics for example, its basically the same subject matter (maybe more "satanic") but so much more interesting and intelligent, these have about as much creativity as an angry 6 year old brat. i use to love tom's voice but i think he's lost it a little bit. maybe becuase he's alot older now, maybe becuase there's no distinctiveness or hooks anymore just yelling at the same level most the time. its probably a little of both. and as i have said above the lame lyrics don't help much either. back in the day slayer solos had a certain aura about them thats hard to put a finger on and once in awhile they pulled out a decent thought out solo like in the song "seasons..." for example. but now the solos are just shit straight from the *******. christ illusion is a sad attempt of seasons in the abyss but it just don'nt come close in any shape or form. part of the problem is kerry writing majority of the material. kerry was never the creative genius of the band. and looking at the credits all the "good songs" are from the hannemen/araya tandem. but even those fall short from the classics. i don't know IMHO they should retire as they are just sounding old.
I'm a christian and I like Slayer Metallica Megadeth Anthrax Ozzy Exodus FLotsam and Jetsam what have you. But I know that Dave and Tom are christians. So is Dave mustaine (megadeth). Tom even said if Kerry writes something good and it goes against his religion he'll still sing it because it is for shock value.
Wow, horrible production there Slayer. Crappy sound all around, and Kerry's guitars sound weak, lol.....From see all the Marshall AMP ads in guitar mags kerry indorses his axe would sound better, its more like a high school band.
Sure the production isnt perfect but the songs are so good that it doesn't really matter and how do some people compaer eyes of the insane to Green Day? This album proves that they aren't too old and I can't wait to hear what they bring out next year.
I think this album is quite good.Although it lack memorable riff and I only found 2 song that really have a quality to be named slayer song.The drum is very good though and it save this album from mediocrity.But it's very disappointing for me because its a waste of Kerry and Jeff talents.You know,this album will make people said synyster gate is better than jeff and kerry.Its a bullshit statement but my friends already said that because of this album.F' them.I hope the next album have the same quality of season in the abyss.
there were ceertain countries, like India for example, that banned the release of the album due to the fact that the original cover is very obscene, so a while after the release, they came up with alternate covers so they can get more copies sold in those countries.
Awesome.would be unfair to expect another reign in blood but still good.
Thats true, most people compare bands newest album or release to their standout ones, i.e. master of puppets or reign in blood, so take the album for what it is not what another album was, anyway, i think this album kicks ass!!
I agree completely, but however if you've been following slayer lately, you will expect big from World Painted Blood!!
