Release Date: Oct 10, 2006
Label: Roadrunner
Genres: Alternative Metal, Thrash, Heavy Metal
Number Of Tracks: 13
It?s an obscenely brave and ambitious end to a glorious collection of songs that seems destined to cement Trivium?s reputation as the heaviest, sharpest, smartest and hardest working band of their generation.
The Crusade
Reviewed by:
Machanix, on october 12, 2006 23 of 28 people found this review helpful
Sound: Trivium has come along way from the screams many are used to. The Crusade is one hell of a ride, but like most CDs, it starts off slow, so don't worry. From the hard-hitting, melodic opener Ignition, to the 8 minute trek that is The Crusade. Don't be fooled by the band name, for this is surely one not to disappoint.
01. Ignition - very metalcore intro, but quickly cuts into the vocals, and it's smooth sailing from there. As it progresses, it gets very melodic, but maintains the heaviness that Trivium promised. Matt's singing is superb. Cory and the guitar solo, what can I say? I thought it fit the song, but it also sounds very forced, so that's a point off.
02. Detonation - two bands came to mind when I first heard this song. Pantera, and Metallica. This is a very had hitting, fast paced, kick ass song. The first part of the song is almost thrashy, but can't quite cut it, the last 3 minutes of this song is where it picks up. I'm a sucker for melodic stuff, so when I heard this song change so suddenly, I was suprised. Fortunately it was a pleasant surprise. Since most of have heard this, you probably already know how it goes, so that saves me some time.
03. Entrance Of The Conflagration - this is a very fierce song, though, it seems like something is missing from this, I can't quite put my hand on it. Very good backing-vocals on this song, sounds like Matt Heafy likes to do them himself (James Hetfield much? ). The drums on this track are superb for a man of Travis's age. Like Detonation, this track starts off a bit slows, but quickly turns into yet another epic, the solo goes in perfectly.
04. Anthem (We Are the Fire) - starts off great, though for a second I thought it was going to be a rip off of Alone in The Dark by Testament. Matt's vocals are definately the strong point on this song. The backing vocals are very strong, and everything fits perfectly. My favourite song on the album (well, tied with The Crusade actually). This has an almost Metallica-ish feel (via RTL), but also maintains the intensity that is Trivium.
05. Unrepentant - very awesome intro, heavy and to the point. Matt sings like all of the songs on this album, very strong, and loud. The backing vocals are almost like a mantra, amnd the harmonizing between the band in this song is heavenly. The tempo changes a bit, but Trivium is one of the few bands that can pull it off great, and they prove it with this song. The solo, very short. The solo is what ruined this song.
06. And Sadness Will Sear - this is the weak point of the album, sure it picks up towards the end, but it seems too much like it was just filler.
07. Becoming The Dragon - almost thrashy, it seems too forced. However, it's very heavy, and I like it. Matt is borderline screaming about 1:48 into the song when it starts to get heavy and fast. The riffs are heavy and pounding in this song. This is a great song.
08. To The Rats - can you say thrash metal? Wow, this is easily one of the heaviest songs on the album, fast, hard, and mean, just the way I like it. I think this may be a new opener at Trivium shows right here. Nothing more to say other than this track kicks some ass.
09. This World Can't Tear Us Apart - this song is great! It didn't have the intensity as To the Rats, but it has something some other tracks are lacking. Emotion and feeling. I love this song. Everything flows perfectly into one beautiful work of art.
10. Tread The Floods - it's a bit hard to describe, it starts off very scetchy, bu picks up the quality very quickly. Everything starts off as filler, then the filler starts to flow, creating this song.
11. Contempt Breeds Contamination - great! Starts off awesome! Fast, and heavy. Hard hits, and pounding riffs. This rivlas as the heaviest song on the album. Matt's voice sounds great on this track. Corey does his part almost effortlessly. Nothing more to say.
12. The Rising - a great song, nothing the bothered me. Though, after all this, this song starts to get repeatative. Melodic, then picks-up.One of the slower songs, but it's still great nontheless, and Corey's guitar solo is the highlight of this song. He just lets the notes flow out of him, and into the music.
13. The Crusade - the time has come, it's The Crusade, the big one, the title track. This is the instrumental. This song is in sections. First is the fast paced Trivium-esque section. It quickly goes into an almost Cliff Burton bass line almost reminiscant of Orion or Pulling Teeth. After that little part, it becomes very melodic again. The solos in this are spectacular, the almost natural sound, it comes out as if these four kids were born to be stars. This epic weighs in at over 8 minutes, there is too much to describe, and yet, not much time. One word: Beautiful. // 8
Lyrics and Singing: The lyrics were very good. Ranging from politics, to violence, young Matt Heafy has yet to reach his prime, and if he can write this now, I'd love to see what he could do when he's older. I'm one for describing lyrics, so my explanation is vague, for that, I apoligize. // 9
Impression: This is easily Trivium's finest album. No other album but anyone in the metalcore genre can compare to these guys. I think this album has proved that they are a step above the rest. I love everything about it, the only thing that bothered me was that the bass was very weak for a man of Paulo's calibur. Since I downloaded this album, I know now that I will most definately buying this in October, and I'll buy an extra copy just in case some ass-clown does indeed steal it. Well, it's 12:24 am, and I got a math test tomorrow, so I'm off to bed. I'd reccomend this album to anyone who likes music. Trivium's finest hour has yet to fall upon them, as I said earlier, I will be there to see it happen. Until then, this epic will stand out in my CD collection for a long time to come. // 9
The Crusade
Reviewed by:
PLOP, on october 12, 2006 7 of 10 people found this review helpful
Sound: A few words: different, and amazingly awesome. Trivium are fulfilling their prophecy that they are "the next Metallica", but it does not end there. Despite what certain magazines are saying, the entire album does not sound like a Metallica album-Songs like "And Sadness Will Sear" and "Becoming The Dragon" are more original, possible due to the use of a seven string guitar, which I personally feel is used to great effect, as it is not the bottom four strings that are only played with chunky power chords and octaves, but there is complex soloing and sweeping of all seven strings. The main theme of the album, seems to be an attack on modern society and problems in the world-"And Sadness Will Sear" is a song about the murder of a homosexual man because he was homosexual-whereas "Ignition" is about how we are destroying Earth with bombs and each others dignity with "Homophobia, Racism, Sexism"-a line from the song of "Ignition" which also features the chorus "Ignition/Inception/Burning is our fuse to destruction/Break the walls of Ignorance/To disarm the world from it's last chance." My personal favourite thing about the album, is Matt Heafys new, vocal style-out with the throat mangling screaming and in with old school 80's style growling/roaring-with the exception of the bridge to "Becoming The Dragon" which is screamed by Corey Beaulieu (lead guitar) who also screams the screamy bits to ascendancy live seeing as Matt has retired from screaming. But Corey’s screaming is not out of place, and is done fairly well!
The band has also progressed on their instruments-if you don't believe me listen to the amazing closing/title track, the epic, technical, and simply brilliant instrumental "The Crusade", although the entire album is proof of an extremely talented band, with great song writing skills and great talents on their chosen instruments. Matt can now also play more complex guitar parts whilst singing, Paolo’s bass sound is more defined and can be clearly heard, whilst Travis' bass drumming and drumming in general is exceptional. Another change is the use of standard tuning as Paolo claims is it "easier to write songs in standard", and Matt also said in Total Guitar Magazine last January "No one uses it anymore so we thought we would try and be different"-and needless to say, the tuning seems a bit more, ah, "metal." Oh and brilliant cover artwork as well. // 9
Lyrics and Singing: Matt has defiantly changed his vocal style, and it goes better with he music as well. His voice definitely sounds awesome, and his singing skills have improved. All the lyrics are written by Matt, and whilst some are typical "Stop problems in the world" Lyrics, some have more meaning, such as "And Sadness Will Sear" which is very blatantly about the heartless murder of Matthew Shepard, and "To The Rats" Seems to be about those who doubt and hate-not just Trivium-but most groups, and I'm not talking just about musical groups but social groups, as the line "Break every bone in your face/If you mess with my life" shows. // 9
Impression: In conclusion, all I can say is, I will still definitely buy this album, I was just far too desperate to hear it because the 3 songs I had heard were simply brilliant. The rest of the album follows suit. The best album this year, well done Trivium! This album will be a love it or hate it album, but please if you have downloaded the album buy it anyway, to support and congratulate and thank Trivium for this great album. Good Job Matt, Corey, Paolo and Travis. Just release a tab book so we won't waste too much time figuring it out, and credit me for that suggestion. // 10
The Crusade
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Trivium_Fan13, on october 13, 2006 4 of 6 people found this review helpful
Sound: The Trivium of now as as opposed to Ember To Infero is simply this Trivium is more composed and much more structered. Multiple layers of guitars, from the heavy seven strings to the acoustics that you can barely hear but still add flare and power to this album. For Trivium to write something that overall is a classic album while touring tells a lot about how composed this band really is, one goal for one cause, bringing the essence of true heavy metal back. // 9
Lyrics and Singing: Ignition: With it's very heavy beginning and very powerful lyrics, you could almost think that Trivium dropped their style of a melodic chorus/bridge. But when that chorus kicks in and the emotion that you hear in Matt's voice, with the heavy guitars and the acoustic guitar hiding with-in, you get that awe inspiring feeling. When the solo kicks in you hear that their techincal skills have only grown, from when they started. Then to finish they do the acoustic chorus intro into the heavy guitars, and literally can drop any true fan of Trivium to their knees.
01. Detonation - an extremely heavy start to the song, as the drums march peacefully behind the well complied guitar riffs. Heafy and the vocals on this song show that he has matured. The verse and chorus compliment the heavier side of Trivium and that they can still do some screaming but only when it is a nessecity. The solos sound like something the Whammy Bar Genius himself (Dimebag Darrell) would have written. The Bridge is what really gives this song layers and allows appreciation of melodic vocals, with well placed solo's inside the bridge this is a very amazing track.
02. Entrance Of The Conflagration - did you hear that, James? Wow, Matt really hit the nail on the head, a very fast and steady song, catchy especially the chorus, great riffs and very powerful meaning. Torment of the soul something any artist can write about. The bridge right before the solo's with the chant like whoa's allows listener's to feel that the day's of A gunshot to the head of Tripediation aren't dead. Matt and Corey's solo's are some of the best of this year, and very few bands could top them.
03. Anthem (We Are The Fire) - the beginning of this song makes you wanna start a roit, and then the verse kicks in and you find yourself naturally headbanging, with a very very very catchy chorus, and amazing verse this is probably the highlight of the cd, with Paolo rocking the bass throught the whole song, gives you memories of Cliff Burton. The Dual solo and then separate solo's in this song are truely perfect, and then the chant comes to get you, whoa, whoa whoa a classic track.
04. Unrepentant - with the music for this track written by Corey you see that stability isn't always needed in a song. The vocals don't rhyme and still flow perfect, cool song, great solos yet again, and the chrous is a very emotional catching chorus. This song is a good way to message to everyone not to listen to rumors!
05. And Sadness Will Sear - the beginning riff is very grooving and almost later Slipknot sounding, while the vocals are Heafy at his very best. The chorus music and lyrics alike are capturing and very awesome. The ending bridge talks of today actually, October 12th and is a great peice of art, solo's aren't the most soul capturing but leaving the solo's back into the chorus is amazing, with Heafy backing himself the vocal pattern grabs you in.
06. Becoming The Dragon - not my favorite track but still very good, telling that they can write about mythology and still kick it's back side, descent chorus, and a nice fast paced verse. Corey proves that his ability to scream is far surpassed what Matt was able to do, with them both having their own singing style now, they can conquer the world!
07. To The Rats - fast. A very thrashy song pretty much telling everyone to back off if you, disapprove of what others are doing, musically and socially. The chorus is a great compliment to the verse as it is a completely different style than the verse. The great the backing vocals and how the song is built around riffs that Paolo wrote, shows that everyone in Trivium has tons of musical talent. The bridge and solo are very very angry and fast, with the whole song showing thrashy ability, finishing with the song dropping to a slower tempo.
08. This World Can't Tear Us Apart - at the beginning riff you are caught in a wave of emotion, and then you hear the vocals and what Matt talks about, and he pours his heart out to his girlfriend. A thrashy ballad? I think so very well done, the solo/vocals/music/drums/everything is a compliment to eachother, with the post solo chorus starting a key lower, making a very nice soothing but still awesome sound. Great Track.
09. Tread The Floods - a very Iron Maiden intro takes you back to the good ole' days of metal. With the verse sounding like a fusion of Metallica's vocal's and Pantera's music, with the chorus going against the norm of Trivium and staying very true to the song, and being a heavy hardcore chorus. good good.
10. Contempt Breeds Contamination - Dimebag must have been the inspiration for this intro, and the verse is very cool and heavy, then the chorus is wow. Overall a descent track.
11. The Rising - a classic intro that grooves all the way into the verse straight to the chorus and back around, the song flows like a true riffer(river) of metal. This song has so many different sounds, from Tallica, to Pantera to Def Leppard to Kiss, a great beginning to the end of the CD.
12. The Crusade - ten stars to this instrumental hands down, nothing sounds outta place. // 10
Impression: Had this CD been released around the time of Metallica's Ride The Lightning or Megadeth's Peace Sells But Who's Buying, I really don't think that Metallica or Megadeth would have been able to keep up. This album brings the essence back to the Metal scene. A great album that will keep fans satisfied and feasting until they return with a better album! I would buy this CD 10000 times if it were stolen ever, there is nothing that they do on this cd, asside from not releasing 2 more CDs with the same caliber of hits at the same time, that I don't like. The catchiest and most impressive song would hands down be Anthem (We Are The Fire). // 10
The Crusade
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d_byrne23, on october 12, 2006 4 of 6 people found this review helpful
Sound: In terms of the genre, this is one of the most dynamic guitar albums I've heard in quite some time. People need to realise that these guys (Matt and Corey) aren't very old, and demonstrate skills that a lot of artists don't have and will never have. They show an array of creativity on this album, and always find a way to throw a meaningful solo or duel in each song. Songs I would strongly recommend are "Entrance Of The Conflagration", "Becoming the Dragon" and "Tread The Floods", Tread the floods has one of those screaming leads that you will be humming in your head all day. Definately have to give them a 10 in the sound department. // 10
Lyrics and Singing: The sound off of The Crusade is night and day compared to Ascendancy and Ember To Inferno, instead of the kinda mainstream metalcore screams use to hearing on past trivium titles, fans are now treated to a more singing approach from Matt Heafy. At first I thought there was a lot of Metallica comparisons, but after listening through the record quite a few times, you definately lose the feeling that he is trying to be James Hetfield. I'm actually pleasantly surprised in Matts lyrical content, and at how great he pulls it off. I would've been slightly happier if he wouldve mixed in the screams with his melodic singing tone. // 9
Impression: My overall impression of this album is that it is one of the most dynamic records I've heard this year. It caught me off guard thinking it would just be random shredding and a late '80s style metal sound, but they mix it up so well, going from songs like "Entrance to the Conflagration" to "And Sadness Will Sear", demonstrates that these two young guitar players have lots to offer, and you can definately tell that they respect those who have came before them, and taken plenty of techniques from them. An end comparison would be something like take a decent metal vocalist, mixed with thrashy Metallica riffs, and searing leads from a Maiden-esque type tone. Very impressed, any one who enjoys Trivium's past efforts, or anyone looking for something different in todays heaveir music styles should definately check this album out. Lots of excellent guitar work. // 10
The Crusade
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unregistered, on october 23, 2006 6 of 20 people found this review helpful
Sound: This album is a long way from the Trivium we all fell in love with back in the days of "Ascendency". Arguably the heaviset of the Trivium alums but the guitar seems to be lacking weight and order. This is a thrash metal album to be sure and no other label can be realisticly put on it. The riffs are played to a speed of that we have never herd from Trivium but this almost makes it sound out of control to the point that you know their f--ked if they drop their pick's. The skill is remarkable though and the melodci patterns and pitch shitfs are beyond reason. Fans of early Megadeath will like the new sound. // 8
Lyrics and Singing: Heafys, it seems, was better off screaming. Fans of Triviums second album are going to be dissapointed with his vocals on this album. Some think that he is'nt able to scream any more because his voice has blown. This is a possibility. A lot of people are comparing the vocals too a lot of early Metallica tracks but Heafys vocals just arnt as strong as James Hetfields. We still get a bit of the Trivium through a bit of Corey screaming but it isnt enough to impress as his screams were never the strongest of the duo. // 4
Impression: It is clear to see the Ascendency is the strongest album Trium has released becuase The Crusade just doesn't have the tracks that make a good metal album. The Crusade track does show serious potential as listeners are reminded of Metallica through this blistering instrumental and "The Anthem" could be an extremly popular track but the album just doesnt't have songs that stick in your head like "Ember To Inferno", "Pull Harder" and "Like Light To Flies" did. The guitar skills are amazing and the solo's have improved massively on former songs but this just isnt Trivium. // 5
The Crusade
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A7XDisturbed, on october 12, 2006 2 of 4 people found this review helpful
Sound: On this album Trivium have fully developed their sound. It was a big step from Ascendancy. There is a lot less grunting lyrics, instead Matt Heafy seems to sing more. The guitars, bass and drums are dialed in and everything is so crisp. The album is along the same lines as Ascendancy but the is more harmony in the guitar duets. Another step forward is that Gregoletto(bass) has a solo on The Crusade. In this album the guitar and drums are heard head-on, meaning the tempo is a lot faster but the is more harmony to somewhat slow down the songs and make them complete. In Ignition, the opening track, the guitar is so fast but you get to the chorus and want to sing with the song. Overall Trivium has hit the mark with this ablum it is so far my favourite album. It sounds as though they have perfected their sound and in some way perfected their genre of music. // 10
Lyrics and Singing: The lyrics on this album have much more deeper meaning then Ascendany. A lot of the songs are about taking the negativity in life and surpassing it. But Matt Heafy uses his amazing skill with words and makes the songs a lot more meaningful. In aspects of the music the lyrics fit the music perfectly. From Ignition to The Crusade(the last song) the words and phrases Heafy use insync with the guitar riffs and the bass riffs. What is most amazing is the delivery of the lyrics by Matt Heafy. He picks his time to actually sing the lyrics and when to somewhat grunt them. This skill adds diameter to the songs and just shows how great of a songwriter he is. // 9
Impression: This is by far Triviums best album, for me anyways. Trivum said that they are trying to sound like the old Metallica. Well on this album they have done it and then some. I love almost every minute of the album. The only thing I dislike is there is a lot less guitar duets but that is exstinguished by the awesome guitar playing by Corey Beaulieu. The most impressive songs on this album are Ignition, Detonation, Anthem (We Are The Fire), And Sadness Will Sear, and The Rising. If this album was stolen I would most definately buy a new one. // 10
The Crusade
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LarsHamfield, on october 12, 2006 2 of 3 people found this review helpful
Sound: This is Trivium's latest album and is very unique. The Crusade blends many different styles mainly just different types of metal but this sound is very new and different to the likes of Ascendancy 2005 and Ember To Inferno 2003 for starters each player semms to have become more experienced for example in some songs you will hear Matt Heafy doing 5 and 6 string sweeps unheard of in Triviums first two albums the riffsare also much more complex. They obtain their unique sound in several songs by using 7 string guitars they also tune their guitars to Standard instead of dropped D as heard on Ascendancy. In this album Corey's, Paolo's and Travis' sound has remained much the same but with Matt you can hear his new found experience Corey and Matt also experiment a lot in this album with whammy bar squeels. This is an album which I have given a lot of time to I have read various comments and most fans will be Happy myself included with this album, unfortunately though their is a large minority of people who feel that Matt has ruined Trivium by not screaming and some say he sounds like a young James Hetfield but I disagree. // 8
Lyrics and Singing: The first huge change on the crusade is the Fact that young vocalist Matt Heafy has given up screaming for reasons he says are because none of his influences scream and I quote "You don't hear bruce dickinson being reffered to as a heavy metal cookie monster." He also says that it was hard to make out what he was saying. The lyrics on this album are no longer about things like emotions but things like the theory of shoot first ask questions later but they also cover unbelieveable topics like dragons in the song Becoming The Dragon he just sings about becoming a dragon but Becoming The Dragon happens to be my favourite song with a trademark catchy Matt Heafy chorus overall it's lyrics are reasonable with the exception of becoming the dragon. // 7
Impression: With relation to Triviums first two albums this shouldn't disappoint fans but it doesnt't stack up to the ferocity of Ascendancy their are some powerful songs on this album about the world setting itself up for destruction and then detonating itself into a state of panic and danger the intro track is Ignotion which smoothly runs into Detonation. The title track The Crudsade is an epic 8 minute which in my opinion is an excellent way for each band member to flaunt their skills which they do perfectly. I love the fast paced riffs, The technical solos and the uplifting catchy Choruses this album will stay in my most recently played list for at least a month if some one were to steal this metal masterpiece I'd hunt them down and make them buy a new one and then I'd kill him (of course). // 8
The Crusade
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jpmatrixfan88, on november 19, 2008 0 of 0 people found this review helpful
Sound: The Crusade is Trivium's 3rd album. It is different from some of their previous work. Namely, the vocals and guitar playing. The songs are more structured and complex than their previous work, and they really stepped up their guitar playing. The vocals are much "cleaner" than their previous work, and their isn't a lot of screaming.
On this album they incorporated 7 string guitars for the first time. It shows, on songs like "This World Can't Tear Us Apart", and "And Sadness Will Sear." The overall sound is somewhat thrash-metal like, with hints of hard rock and the like. Some great guitar playing. Great solo's, and they experimented with some whammy bar tricks, on songs like "Detonation", and "Becoming the Dragon." Most of the songs have a fast pace feel to them, especially "To The Rats", and "Entrance of the Conflagration." There are some slower songs too. "And Sadness Will Sear" has an overall slower feel, as does "The Rising." That song is one of my favorites on the album, it has a very vibe-y intro riff, and the chorus just has this unifying, uplifting feel. The solo is very good, it just has so much emotion in it. One of the standouts on the album. And of course, the title track and last song on the album, is quite a song. It's an 8 minute instrumental that showcase Trivium's exemplary skills on their instruments. Nice drumming, great guitar playing, and some great bass runs, particularly in the soft breakdown in the middle of the song. Some great musicians Trivium are. // 8
Lyrics and Singing: The lyrics on this album are very solid, and cover many topics. The first 2 tracks, "Ignition" and "Detonation", deal with the topic of society and nuclear war, and the world going downhill and blowing itself to bits. The track "Entrance of the Conflagration" deals with the true story of Andrea Yates' murder of her five children in her home by drowning them one-by-one in her bathtub. (Yates was found not guilty by reason of insanity). The song mentions Yates' depression and suicide attempts. The line: "Robbed by the seventh deadly sin" refers to a statement made by Yates about the murders: "It was the seventh deadly sin. My children weren't righteous. They stumbled because I was evil. The way I was raising them they could never be saved. They were doomed to perish in the fires of hell."
The track "And Sadness Will Sear" is about another true story of the murder of Matthew Shephard. He was gay, and in Colorado was beaten and left to die by some despicable individuals, simply because he was a homosexual. Many of the songs are about true stories, like the wrongful murder of Amadou Diallo, who was shot 41 times by police officers in a confusing dispute. Evidenced by the lyrics," The four protectors fired 41 shots, hitting him 19 times. Searching the body there were no weapons found. He lies with all who died in vain." And even a love song "This World Can't tear Us Apart." The lyrics are very good and well written, and are quite unique. // 9
Impression: Overall, a solid, yet different album by Trivium. A little different from what most people are used to from them. Overall I like the clean vocals and all, but there isn't a lot of variety in the vocals, most of it sounds a little similar. Probably could've used a little more screaming, as most Trivium fans are used to. Still some good work though. They are very good with their addition of the 7 string guitars, and the guitar work on the album is excellent. If it were lost/stolen I definitely would replace it, it's a good piece of work. Overall, I guess my top 5 favorite songs are, in no particular order:
01.The Crusade
02.Detonation
03.The Rising
04.And Sadness Will Sear
05.Entrance of the Conflagration // 8
The Crusade
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AdamDK, on august 07, 2008 0 of 0 people found this review helpful
Sound: The sound on the album is fantastic. The guitars have been mixed fantastically, and the guitar parts work together so well. One of the highlights of the album for me is the harmonies which Matt and Corey perform. They are simply beautiful! As always, Travis' drumming is spot on and you can't fail Paolo for his bass. I think it would be nice if Trivium had more creative bass lines, but nevertheless they fit the songs. The songs which stand out to me are: Ignition, Entrance of the Conflagration, Anthem (We Are the Fire), Unrepentant and Tread the Floods. These songs all have fantastic riffs, awesome vocals and great solos. // 9
Lyrics and Singing: The lyrics on this album seem to be up to good standards, but are slightly lacking compared to Ascendency. However, Matt's voice is fantastic. His voice does sound very similar to James Hetfield's, but his voice fits the music perfectly. The album lacks screaming like on Ascendency and Ember to Inferno, and it is a bit of a miss, but this album is more thrash metal orientated than metalcore, and normal vocals fit well with the music. // 7
Impression: In my opinion this is the second best Trivium album. First being Ascendency, and third being Ember to Inferno. Musically, the album is fantastic. It has all the elements of Trivium you would expect, except screaming vocals. If you're a true Trivium fan, this album may be sup-par for you, but any thrash metal fan would love it. // 8
The Crusade
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GuitarHero_jp, on july 03, 2008 0 of 0 people found this review helpful
Sound: After two successful releases, (Ember To Inferno, Ascendancy) Trivium's 3rd attempt was The Crusade. Undoubtedly, it is different to the others, like no screaming and more of a thrash style instead of Metalcore. It has been criticised by many Trivium fans but I think it is worth the buy. There isn't a single track on it that I don't like. It has the explosove singles like 'Entrance of the Conflagration', 'Anthem (We Are The Fire)' and 'The Rising' but it also has other underated songs like 'Unrepentant' and 'To the Rats'. A brilliant new sound for modern metal. // 8
Lyrics and Singing: There are a large range of lyrics on this album. Ignition & Detonation are both about society and warmongers like George Bush. Entrance of the Conflagration is about Andrea Yates drowning her 5 children in a bathtub. Unrepentant is about Nazir Ahmed murdering his daughter for getting married to the man of her choice. And Sadness Will Sear is about the murder of Matthew Sheperd and Contempt Breeds Contamination is about the shooting of Amadou Diallo. These songs all show the range of Matt Heafy's lyrical abillities. Some may riticise matt's singing instead of Screaming and have been accused of 'Selling Out'. Usually these people are complete Metalheads who are afraid to try something different. If all of Trivium's albums where the same, it would be rather boring don't you think? // 9
Impression: The best songs on the album are: Ignition, Detonation, Entarnce Of The Conflagration, Anthem (We Are The Fire), Urepentant, And Sadness Will Sear, Becoming The Dragon, To the Rats, This World Can't Tear Us Apart, Tread the Floods, Contempt Breeds Conatmination, The Rising and the Crusade. Oh wait, that's all of them! But seriously, do not skip any of the songs, they are all amazing! It's like a greatest hits in it's own making.
01. Ignition - great way to start the album at 240 bpm! And then a brilliant interlude almost halving the tempo.
02. Detonation - I have to admit, I didn't like it at first, but now it's my favourite Trivium song! Amazing solos and dramatic interlude's.
03. Entrance Of The Conflagration - brilliant riff, brilliant solo, amazing druming. The making of a perfect song!
04. Anthem (We Are The Fire) - this used to be one of my favourite songs but the fact that all the wanabes love it and it's always on music channels just ruins it. I'm not to keen on the lyrics either.
05. Unrepentant - very underated song. I think it's one of the best on the album.
06. And Sadness Will Sear - beautiful song, dedicated to Matthew Shepard.
07. Becoming The Dragon - I love the rffs but the lyrics are kinda cheesy. Becoming a Dragon. Has a great moment of screaming in it.
08. To The Rats - very fast! I love this song. The only downside is Matt's solo. It sounds horrible.
09. This World Can't Tear Us Apart - reminds me of 'Dying in Your Arms' from Ascendancy, But I prefer this. It's longer and has better solo's.
10. Tread The Floods - this has one of the most amazing double bass rhythms in the chorus. It's so fast! Watch out Dave Lombardo.
11. Contempt Breeds Contamination - not to keen on the Intro, but the rest of the song is great.
12. The Rising - another brilliant single from the album. A big change for Trivium's standerds.
13. The Crusade - some good riffs. I think it goes on for a bit too long. // 9
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mustacrackish, on may 23, 2008 0 of 0 people found this review helpful
Sound: Trivium have come a long way from that metalcore band to what they are today, a hard working band made up of some amazing musicians. I would have to say that I am glad that they stop the screaming and started to sing, and when Corey screams, he does it tastefully and it fits the song. But while I love this album, there are some weak points. Ignition: 8 out of 10. Starts out pretty thrashy, but it still is melodic, the only thing I'm not crazy about is the solo, it seems a little forced, and I'm really not critical about solos, But still, it's driving and heavy, yet still melodic. Detonation: 10 out of 10. The first song I ever heard and one of my favorites, great verse riff, awesome solo and very good drumming by Travis. The solos keep the song going, and the riffs keep my head banging.Amazing Song. Entrance of the conflagration: 9 Out of 10. Another good song, Very thrashy and great solos. The only reason I gave it a nine is because it seems to get a little repetitive but still amazing. Anthem (we are the fire)10 out of 10. Very good song, great riffs, solos, and very sing along type song. Almost reminds of iron maiden. Unrepentant: 8 out of 10. Still a very good song, yet it reminds to much of metallica and gets a little repetitive, Almost the down point of the album. And sadness will sear: 9 out of 10. And now here come the seven strings.it's a little slow, but it just is amazing and very emotional and still very heavy. This song is making me save up for a seven string. Becoming the dragon: 10 out of 10. This is amazingly breathtaking. They use that seventh string a little, but when they do, it enhances the the experience. Great solos, and a bass solo by Paolo, may I also say that Paolo is amazing at bass and is the only bass player besides cliff burton that I will listen to the bass instead of the guitars. Fantastic drumming and awesome screams from Corey, amazing song. To the rats: 7 out of 10. To be honest, I'm really not crazy about this song it's good, just not really good, the down point of the album to me. This world can't tear us apart: 10 out 10. An amazing thrash balled and really nice use of that seventh string, good solos, good singing, all around, great song. Tread the floods: 10 out of 10. awesome, is the only word that comes to mind. Great intro, verse, bridge, Chorus, solo, singing, drumming, bass, Everything is amazing. Contempt breeds contamination: 8 out of 10. Great intro and amazing, but a little repetitive, Still a great performance. The Rising: 9 out of 10. Great sing along track and good solos. Just an awesome song. The Crusade: 10 out of 10. The moment you all have been waiting for. this song practically Brings a tear to my eye. High point of the album. just a piece of art and it really astonishes me that they have come this far. Excellent performance. // 10
Lyrics and Singing: I really don't listen to the lyrics, but from what I've heard they do have some meaning and aren't just words. And. Matt has gone from just another screamer to an amazing singer. And Corey's screams are awesome, they really have a good singing duo here. That's the sound of humanity melting away Say goodbye it's the end of days Fire rains down on the American dream Watch all you love see them scream. Each will dig their own graves And bury themselves in life's failures. Just a line that shows that trivium are thrash and not just Metalcore. // 10
Impression: If this came out in the 80's, Metallica and Megadeth would have a hard time keeping up. The Best songs to me are Ignition, Detonation, Entrance, Anthem we are th- ah froget it the whole album is amazing. I love the guitar work and the singing in it and it's drumwork is awesome too. If it got stolen, I would buy it again and just sit back and listen to the awesomeness of trivium. I'll be getting there fourth album for sure and so should you. // 10
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nfldguitarist, on february 29, 2008 1 of 9 people found this review helpful
Sound: The sound is such a try hard sound that I can't believe anyone would consider this a "natural album" that quote was from a friend of mine. Anyways The sound is no where near thrash Metal. The riffs don't chug like they do in your premier thrash bands (old Metallica, Slayer, Testament etc.) it's more a band trying very hard to transition out of being a predominaty metalcore band to an alternitive band and wannabe thrash metal. I can't beleive anyone would ever want to even bring this album into a discussion of thrash.I hate how Heafy will diss bands like Korn and Tool in the public eye and then go and make an album like this. They're trying to aim for a more mainstream sound and can't help but fall flat on there face, The guitars are hugely technical but sound boring and messy in a lot of there songs. Heafy is trying way to hard to Kirk Hammet and trying to hard to sing like hetfield. The drummin I have to say was surprisingly decent and actually showed a smooth transition from album to album.the bass was inaudible. And I really hate that when that happens. Either way the prodcution couldn't have been that good if all the songs sound as messed up as they do. // 1
Lyrics and Singing: The lyrics are quite relevant for such an irrelevant album. It deals with famous killings like the Andrea Yates murders (Entrance Of the Conflagration) and many others I don't feel like writing. Heafy sounds like Hetfield on this album so I guess it's good He should just stick to his own style instead of immitating others. // 5
Impression: I hate all Trivium albums equally so I can't tell if this was there best or worst album at all. There are no songs really worth mentioning except maybe ...And Sadness Will Sear, witch was at least formulated and tightly structured enough so I could pick out other instruments. I would probably burn all other copies of this album and wipe out triviums record deal. Just to stop this one album from being replicated. // 1
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Nathan_393, on january 07, 2008 0 of 0 people found this review helpful
Sound: Trivium's second CD, Ascendancy, was nothing short of spectacular upon it's arrival in 2005. Most guitar magazines hailed it as a return to thrash metal format, which it most definitely was not. The CD was more like a metalcore-esque opus. As good as that album was wrong, every problem that it had (and there were a couple) has either been corrected or intensified with Trivium's third outing, appropriately titled The Crusade. One of the major problems I found with Ascendancy was it's god-awful screaming. Gratefully, the problem was corrected on The Crusade, as Matt Heafy started using a growl approach a la James Hetfield (may metal gods be praised). Unfortunately this technique has caused opinions on the album to be divided. The biggest problem on Ascendancy was the poor song writing. Well, unfortunately for fans of quality music, it is worse now. The song writing on The Crusade has become predictable: verse-chorus-verse-chorus-solo-chorus (with some minor variations every now and then). There are, of course, some standout songs where this formula works and Trivium seem to find their niche. For example, take a look at "Entrance of the Conflagration", a song that sounds just like something from the riffs of early Metallica albums (not that I'm complaining)! "Tread the Floods" is perhaps the best song on the album, with a catchy hook and killer guitar work peppered everywhere, not to mention Heafy on top of his vocal game. Of course, both those songs follow the above format of verse-chorus-verse-chorus-solo-chorus, and the format works. Where it fails is on stale pieces of work that sound forced and unaccomplished, like "Ignition", "Unrepentant", and "This World Can't Tear Us Apart" (with the latter being possibly the worst thrash-imitation I've ever heard in my life). In the end, almost every song (with the exclusion of "This World...") has parts to them that I like. But for most of the songs, there are also parts that I dislike, which creates an album for me that is barely above average. It's saving grace is that Heafy and Beaulieu have become masters of the guitar, and bassist Paolo Gregoletto excels at imitating Cliff Burton. // 6
Lyrics and Singing: The lyrics here aren't utter garbage, but they certainly aren't amazing. Slightly comparable to Metallica's "... And Justice For All", except more biased and juvenile. Heafy is a good lyricist, but he is by no means strong enough to tackle some of the issues he did. Heafy's songs about murderers and crimes (check out "Entrance of the Conflagration", "Unrepentant", and "And Sadness Will Sear") are fantastic. He tackles them with considerable knowledge and little bias. However, his songs "Ignition" and "Detonation" are just like every other anti-war metal band's lyrics. "To The Rats" is amateur and dare I say childish, and "This World Can't Tear Us Apart" is a naive look at love that's very revealing of the fact that Heafy is just shy of twenty-two years old. "Anthem (We Are the Fire)" is hair metal in disguise, and the lyrics reflect that. That being said, his singing has been largely improved since Ascendancy (although I heard a rumor that he only stopped screaming because screaming busted a vein in his neck during a show - not that I can verify that). He may sound like a Hetfield clone, but he's good at it and frankly better than Hetfield's vocals have ever been (sorry, but Hetfield can't sing more than three notes). The lyrics and singing are definitely the stronger points of this album. // 7
Impression: Trivium is now slightly comparable to Metallica, but I wouldn't say they were cloning them either. If you were to buy this CD, I don't know if I could recommend buying the whole thing. I recommend you buy/download "Entrance Of The Conflagration", "And Sadness Will Sear", "Becoming The Dragon", "Tread The Floods", and the title track. "The Rising" is an excellent song (in my opinion), but I recommend that you listen to the 30-second previews on the web before you decide on that one, since I'm one of the few people I know who enjoys that song. All in all, after a CD like Ascendancy, this one is disappointing. It allows lots of room for progression, though, and I hope that Heafy and his boys can pull themselves together and write something truly great for their next work. // 6
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jakemac, on december 14, 2007 0 of 0 people found this review helpful
Sound: When I first heard Trivium back in 2004 with their Ember To Inferno album my first impression was "Wow looks like these guys are gonna be big", and as far as I can tell they have become. With The crusade they switched from their Metalcore, dropped D style and turned towards a 7-stringed, technical, Thrash metal approach. Following in the footsteps of Metallica The Crusade features tremolo picked solos and sweeped arpeggios to blow your mind and is a vast improvement to the previous two albums. The use of strange sounding chords in song like "Detonation" and "Tread The Floods" gives it it's finishing thrash metal tint and adds loads of 16th notes to accompany them, just to make it a little speedier. This album features no screaming, unlike the previous two albums which were mostly all screamed, this upsetted some fans and caused a lot of controvery. Matt Heafy commented on this by saying he "Wanted to break away from the over-inflating metalcore culture that has been steadily growing until now every other band in the world is a metalcore band". The riffs were also slated by critics for sounding too much like a riff from a Metallica album in songs like "Entrance of the conflagration" and "To The Rats", however I personally feel they added their own personal style to the Thrash Metal sub-genre of music and very much made it their own.
The band's use of a seven-stringed guitar gave it a harsher, darker sound and gave the guitarists Matt Heafy and Corey Beaulieu more room to be creative in their playing. It also added originality to their music which made it more interesting. Since Trivium switched their style to Thrash Metal in "The crusade" the solos are made using mostly 16th notes and sweeping arpeggios. This made it very interesting and received very positive reviews, with James Hetfield even noting that "these guys are good guitarists". They took a big chance with the Crusade and many fans feel as though they have failed, some however (like myself) feel opposite. If the Crusade hadn't changed things for Trivium they would have turned into a repetitive mind-numbing band and faded into the ever-inflating music culture. Although I'm not a fan of fret-wan*age this album really seemed original and well rehearsed. The wonderful use of sweeping arpeggios as an emotional fuel really gave the song it's backbone. // 8
Lyrics and Singing: Some of the lyrics in The Crusade used power metal influenced themes, for instance in "Becoming The Dragon", and political themes, for instance "The Rising" and "Contempt Breeds Contamination". However the song "This Is To The Rats" is about Matt Heafy's own personal experience with liars in the media and other members of the public, it made a change from the boring, repetitive lyrics in Ascendancy about abuse and Matt Heafy's feelings. The lyrics were fast and often about fighting, this complimented the fast, aggressive music that the musicians produced. The singer Matt Heafy seemed to almost mimick James Hetfield's, of Metallica, trademark "growled" voice, this makes it unoriginal and is the only reason I wouldn't give it a 10/10 rating. The singing style however, when not growling, was nice and complimented every note played by the guitarists. Also in "This World Can't Tear Us Apart" there is a very nice harmony sung by Paolo Gregoletto, Corey Beaulieu and Matt Heafy. I think Matt Heafy should have used vocals other than the exact ones that James Hetfield uses, especially after bragging about how much they influenced him so much. // 8
Impression: The album is possibly one of the best albums of 2006. It's guitar work and lyrics are masterful and very clever. The technicality of the sweeping, tremolo picking, whammy dips, bending, vibrato, slurs is very high and of a good standard. The most impressive songs from the album are: Anthem (We Are The Fire) (the solo is amazing and difficult. The harmonies sound amazing and the sweep picking is almost proffessional standard. The lyrics are warming and uplifting, the song makes you feel good as oppose to Ascendancy in which it makes you want to punch small children, This World Can't Tear Us Apart (the lyrics are sensitive and very touching. The song is about Matt Heafy and his girlfriend, the solo is amazing and the build-up to it is very intense and exciting. The singing and harmonies are spectacular and original. The leading riff is amazing and fun. I love the way their solos are so well planned and technical and their guitar work is so masterful. On the other hand the growling vocals are boring, unoriginal and very repetitive). I broke my CD when I first bought. I then went out bought another one, within a week that one was broken too. I went and bought another one and this time looked after it, the album is amazing and I would definately go and buy it again if it broke. In fact I might just buy snother one just for the sake of having two of them. I liked the album a lot and it was an exciting change for Trivium. // 8
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MassacreDeicide, on december 11, 2007 0 of 0 people found this review helpful
Sound: I have been a Trivium fan since 2002 when their demo came out. I appreciate what they have done for the metal community. They are the band that you love, or you hate. When I bought the CD, it was the exact date it was released. I saw them in NY City at Nokia Theater October 10th, 2006. I met the guys and we had a blast. They took a different path with The Crusade. This time around it kind of sounded like Maiden and Metallica mixed, as opposed to their 2005 classic Ascendancy. // 9
Lyrics and Singing: The lyrics from Trivium have always been mind boggling to me, only because some of them don't make sense, but for most of the lyrics, the songs make me want to go to battle. Matt Heafy was born a frontman, he deserves the spotlight, his vocals are not easily matched by his predecessors Iron Maiden and Metallica. // 9
Impression: The Crusade closely compares with Load and Re-Load from Metallica. The thrash metal portion of it reminds me of the Hetfield Ulrich combo we hear from Metallica. There are three standouts from The Crusade; Tread the Floods, Detonation, and The Crusade. Tread the Floods is an advanced song on all fronts, time signature changes, solos, fast rhythm mutes, stuff like that will make a song instantly. Detonation is one of the songs most of the listeners, including me, weren't expecting. They had that hardcore metal sound in the beginning and quickly flipped the coin and went melodic for the bridge and solo. That's why The Crusade is so good, it is one turn after another. The Crusade is an instrumental, again another direction that is different for Trivium, they took the initiative to make an over eight minute song with no vocals... and everyone has a solo, even Paolo. This album has a lot of firsts and I am eager to know if their reign of metal will continue. // 10
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James TH, on july 06, 2007 0 of 0 people found this review helpful
Sound: The first report ever given on this album when it came out said "the best Metallica album that, well, metallica has ever made." There is no doubt that Trivium's new sound is a lot more influenced on it's roots like Metallica, Iron Maiden, Thin Lizzy and many more. On first look, The Crusade can look a lot like another other album, great cover illustrations, gruff looking song titles and a huge lead up, but as soon as one puts it into the players and hears the opening song "Ignition", one would then either look in great respect or in great horror at the new, very Metallica sounding thrash metal guitars and vocals. The drums have changed very little though. Drummer Travis has continued to utilise his doulbe kicks and tough beats but there is nothing to change the fact that Trivium is a new band with a new sound that judging by record sales, doesnt't seem to bother many hardcore trivium fans. // 9
Lyrics and Singing: There is nothing new about the lyrics of trivium, they are all stil about becoming dragons, a women drowning herself in depression and tons of other fantastical stories that trivium can tell through their music. Matt Heafy, like he always has, wrote all the lyrics and words for the album and ironically he also decided that this would be the album where the "real" Matt Heafy singing would be debuted with no change in the words he says. Just pick up the well illustrated cover booklet and read through the lyrics, they are neither insightful or bad, they rank as complete mediocer. // 7
Impression: For starters, if this album was lost of stolen, with new technology I would not buy a new one because it would be much easier to download the songs that are good on the album, mainly "Ignition", "Contempts Breed Contamination", "We Are The Fire", "To The Rats", and the single "Entrance Of The Conflagration". The album does lack the common sound and feel that Ascendancy and Ember To Inferno created when they first came out. More importantly though, the Trivium will most likely be a love and hate, on and off relationship, it's hard to get used to it at first but it is Trivium either way and every once in a while we can always look back on the good old days when words could hardly be understood and the band was all under the tender age of 20. // 8
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Broken One, on june 25, 2007 0 of 0 people found this review helpful
Sound: Trivium. People either love them or hate them, it seems like. I am one of the ones that love them. I think they are the best thing that's happened to metal in awhile. Matt and Corey have inspired me so much. Anyway onto the album. This album has some very killer guitar and all the band memeber have really become great musicians and they still are very young. Paulo has become quite a bass player, and he even plays solos on the songs "Becoming the Dragon" and "The Crusade." Travis Smith is a great drummer, and Matt and Corey just freakin own at guitar. As you all know they use a seven string on a few of the tracks. Anyway this is a great album, regardless what a lot of people have to say. // 10
Lyrics and Singing: The lyrics are based on problems in the world rather than on Ascendancy which was more about personal problems. Some of the songs are about real stories. OK. now to the vocals. Just becase Matt is doing the James Heatfield thing does not mean Trivium is ripping off Metallica. For one James doesnt't even sing like that anymore, and 2 Metallica has influenced them a lot and they look up to Metallica. Not even all the vocals are like Heatfield, Matt does some of his own singing style. // 9
Impression: Great CD. I highly recomend it to thrash metal lovers that haven't allready checked it out. The title track instrumental is completly insane. Ripping guitar, it even has a bass solo. Trivium are some of the best musicians out there. I love everything about this Album, I can't even imagine how they will be on the next one. // 10
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chris_white, on march 12, 2007 0 of 0 people found this review helpful
Sound: When I first heard Triviums previous album, Asendancy, I was amazed. It was something new, and amazing. I was looking forward to The Crusade, a fair bit. If I'm honest, It doesnt't live up to my expectations. I could listen to every song on the previous album, but in my opinion there are a few bad ones of here. For instance, Anthem (We Are The Fire) is a fairly good song, until the cheesy breakdown, were Matt Heafy (lead singer) does his impression of James Hetfield. it's cheesy, and doesnt't make good music. Some Song on this album, however, are extraordinary. The Crusade is a no holds bared 9 minute instrumental, simply superb. Overall, I feel, due to the extreme sucsess of Asendancy, trivium rushed this album, and if they had spent longer on it, could of produce an album that was just as good as Asendancy, which is no easy task. // 7
Lyrics and Singing: Matt heafy has an awesome voal range, and he proves it on this album. He is one of the best frontmen around currently. The bassist, Paolo, writes the lyrics for Trivium, and for most songs, they are good. The lyrics seem to slot into place for trivium, as if it jsut comes easily to them. // 8
Impression: The Crusade is a decent album, and will be appreciated by metal lovers. There is some awesome work on this album, musically and vocally. If you haven't got any triviums albums, I would say your best to Start with Asendancy, as long as you don't mind screamo. The stand out tracks are Entrance Of The Conflagration, Anthem (We Are The Fire), And The Sadness Will Sear, The world Can't Tear Us Apart and The Crusade. Tis album is definately worth purchasing, and although first impression may not be too high, with time, it will grow on you, and become one of your favourite albums. // 7
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Trivium_A7X, on march 12, 2007 0 of 0 people found this review helpful
Sound: Trivium are a really good starting point for teenagers looking to the metal scene. Their songs vary from the thrash of "To The Rats" to the melodic metal love song "This World Can't Tear Us Apart". Trivium used to be quite a metalcore band but with "The Crusade" they have finally broken away from the mould and produced some truly great music of their own genre. This album was originally expected to be a disappointment, however if you really listen to it properly and keep your mind open, you will discover how great it is. This album uses the legendary twin guitar solo to a devastating effect, some truly great solos have been produced here. // 9
Lyrics and Singing: At first when you hear this album, you don't focus on the lyrics, and everything sounds great. However, when you look at the lyrics and hear how they are used, many of the songs on there are ruined, for they do not really work in songs such as "Entrance Of The Conflagration" and "Unrepentant". Matt Heafy's singing has vastly improved since the last album, instead of a constant death growl he now sings properly, and Paolo does very well with backup vocals. // 5
Impression: Overall I think that this cannot be compared to Trivium's other 2 albums, as they are so completely different. The most impressive songs in my opinion vary with what you are looking for personally. If you are into thrash then To the Rats and Entrance of the Conflagration are for you. For eveything else, I recommend Anthem, Entance, and This World Can't Tear Us Apart, however it is ultimately for you to decide! Many of the songs grow on you with time, happy Listening! // 7
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Silent_gojira, on january 27, 2007 0 of 0 people found this review helpful
Sound: They are all really good songs but it would have been better if they had stick to screaming. The only problem with this CD is somtimes you can hear the bass mess up a few times. The music style is diffrent Matt doesn't scream anymore but it still sounds great. Well Corey still screams like in To the Rats and Detonation. You can hear Matt scream a little bit in Tread the Floods. // 9
Lyrics and Singing: The lyrics meanings were about big huge murders in the past. With some love type song like This world can't tear us apart pretty much has the same meaning as Dying in your arms from here second album Acendancy. Matt Heafy doesn't really scream as much. Some people say he doesn't scream becuase he broke his vocal chords, that's not true he said he finally learnd how to sing so now this is the way he is but I hope he gets back to screaming, still sounds good though. // 10
Impression: I would say it's way way better sound than Acendancy better! The songs I recommend you listen to is Entrance Of The Conflagrtion, Tread The Floods, Anthem (We Are The Fire), Crusade, To The Rats, Ingnition and This World Can't Tear Us Apart. I would buy a new one when it gets sonlen or lost but that's not going to happen. // 10
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boyan89, on december 06, 2006 1 of 2 people found this review helpful
Sound: The sound on this album blew me away and is absolutely astonishing and not one second am I disappointed with the sound. The guitars on this album were just amazing considering that Matt and Corey are both very skilled guitarists and they pull off amazing riffs and absolutely insane solos I mean there isnt that much modern bands with this guitar skill. Paolo is an amzing bassist and he blew me away when I heard it because man he is one skilled bassist and I really love that solo he does in the the instrumetal song (The Crusade) and I hope they have more songs like that. Travis is one skilled drummer I mean man he just keeps improving with every album that Trivium do but too bad they didn't have a drum intro on this album like they did on Ascendancy but nonetheless the drums just blew away. So yah the sound just blew me away and I can't until their next album. // 10
Lyrics and Singing: The lyrics are amazing Matt Heafy can sing about anything like politics, racism, sexism, honour, selfishness and a lot of other crazy shit that people have don't wrong. I really love the way that Matt writes his lyrics and he is the best lyric writer in the world right at this moment because well he is actually sending messages across the world. I'm kind of glad they moved away from the screaming but I really love their screaming and Ascendancy and Ember To Inferno were f--king amazing. // 10
Impression: This album cannot compare to any other albums because Trivium are one skilled band I'll tell you that right now and I know a lot of skilled bands but Trivium are one of my favourite bands right now and their music just blew most of the albums in this world out of the water. The most impressive songs on this album well, I don't really know because all of them send out a massage to me especially "This World can't Tear Us Apart" because I feel that way for my girlfriend and I'm serious I don't think any hate can pull us away. I love everything about this album and I hate nothing about this album and when I heard it I was like WOW man these guys are f--king skilled at what they do. There isn't anything to hate about this album I swear! If it were stolen I would like rip of the guys head of whoever stole this album because I absolutily love it. If it were lost I would buy five copies I swear to god! Get off you lazy ass and get this album right now I swear you will be blown away unless you listen to pussy music! // 10
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Spaleno, on november 23, 2006 0 of 0 people found this review helpful
Sound: The sound was impressive. Every song on the album gave good potential. Ignition being the first track really gave a good first impression. Detonation really had it. I do think the song lacked a bit in the solo sections but it easily picked up in the outro. Entrance of the conflagration I think was right on the target in perfection, but again the song lacked a bit in the solo sections. Anthem (We Are The Fire) really showed another side of trivium whether in a positive or negative way. The song had a '80s touch to it. And sadness will sear is a great song and you could really tell in the verses it had a james hetfield influence. Unrepentant had an outstanding chorus which was an amazing highlight of the song itself. Becoming the dragon really showed a metal-hard rock side instead of the regular common metal core. The interlude was outstanding and everyone would get the nerve to rock out. The song lacked in the solo sections, once again. Contempt breeds contamination in my opinion had that "Fight Fire With Fire" attitude to it. Great solo, great chorus & awesome outro. The rising I think was one of the main songs with a penatonic blues feel to it that most songs with soloing didn't have, not saying it was positive or negative decision. To the rats I think was the highlight of aggresion on the album. The "in your face" and against everyone showed great thrash. I think early metal heads and early megadeth & metallica lovers might consider this. This world can't tear us apart was a great song almost in the same state as "Dying In Your Arms" but I think the 7th string and the way it was played on guitar ruined the song. On a song like this I would rather recommend them tuning drop d or just finding more of personal touch with the song. Tread the floods in my opinion was the top song. The solo was absolutely amazing. The song itself had a great impact on the way the album flowed. The last and final, the grand daddy "The Crusade" I think had an amazing intro but then fell into a off task section which ruined the song. A lot of the parts were fitting but at the same time a lot of riffs seemed like they were just thrown in or something. I did enjoy the interlude, almost had a orion sequence to it. // 10
Lyrics and Singing: The lyrics were acceptable. Some of the lyrics were to plain or as I would say undescriptive but other wise everything seemed ok. I do think a lot of the older lyric writing was more descriptive and more detailed. I think matt heafy really learned how to express his natural voice. // 10
Impression: I think it does deserve a great spot. Ascendancy was in my opinion matched up pretty well along with ember to inferno. I think the most impressive songs were entrance of the conflagration, unrepentant, tread the floods and the crusade. I love equal amount of progressive and just plain metal that was put in the album. One thing I really don't like about this album is the 7 string guitars. It sounds smujy (I don't know the grammer to this word). Overall the album was an outstanding album. // 10
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Adamantium, on november 20, 2006 0 of 0 people found this review helpful
Sound: Honestly, these guys have talent, each musician has extreme capability. However, this album doesn't really do much for me. It's cool, and I'll listen to it, it's nice to have an old school metal sounding band out there in this day and age. At the same time though, they really changed their style. Vocals come to mind over anything else, but don't ignore everything else too: their drummer cut back on double bass, and I feel it's because they're really tryin for that old school feel. To me, Trivium used to be a bit on the hardcore side rather than the metal side, and in this album they took that hardcore feel out, which in my opinion is a good thing. In The End though, many would argue that they sound very much like Metallica, very much like Megadeth, very much like Testament or Exodus etc. and I'd probably be one of those people, but other than that, I can a enjoy the album if I can get passed those similarities to other bands. // 7
Lyrics and Singing: Heafy definitely improved his singing, again, some would argue that it was changed for the wrong reasons, but I do enjoy it more, his growl/scream from before wasn't very appealing. His lyrics fit nicely into the songs, and I can understand how they can be related to by people, yet again though, many would argue it adds that feeling that they sound like some other band "Tread The Floods," for example sounds really megadeth-ish, but I don't feel like that about every song honestly, and the ones I don't feel like that about can be very appealing. // 7
Impression: These guys are good, they're talented and what have you, and I can admit that they do deserve recognition and credability though I don't really like them. I really feel that there are more bands out there that I could relate to much better. As far as metal goes, there are plenty of bands out there that fit the term "metal" more snug. And I don't mean "death" metal or "grindcore" or "black" metal, I just mean the straight up idea of straight up metal. There really isn't one song on this album that can be said has a riff that really reflects a megadeth, metallica, testament, or some other old school band's riff. I honestly think that if I were to lose this album, I wouldn't buy it again, simply for that fact that there's better music (in my opinion) that is easier to relate to, more impressive, more original, and more pleasing to the ear one way or another, so I'd probably buy somthin else. Not to bash on trivium, I mena, let it be known I don't like them, but aside from that, I can admit they have talent and capability, and I can admit that they'd be worth buyin their album if you're into that stuff, but for me personally, it wouldn't be worth it. // 7
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metalicatrivium, on november 17, 2006 0 of 0 people found this review helpful
Sound: Trivium's new album The Crusade came out October 10, 2006. It was named CD of the month for October. I am going to give you my opinion on each song.
01. Ignition - before I heard this song and just saw the name I thought it was going to be a really cool song. I listened to the song and I didn't think it was their best. The guitars sound powerful and all but it wasn't to my liking.
02. Detonation - the first time I heard this song I wasn't a huge fan of it. I listened to it more over time and I learned to like it. The guitars sound good in the song and the Dimebag squeals in the solos were cool. The only part I didn't like was Paolo Gregoletto's (bassist) singing part.
03. Entrance Of The Conflagration - I loved this song from the start. The guitars have a powerful sound to them and Matt Heafy has a James Hetfield type of tone of singing in this song-in a good say.
04. Anthem (We Are The Fire) - the guitars have a good sound to them and the solos are awesome. The sweeps in the solos just show the Trivium fans how talented they really are. And they are only in their lower 20s. Awesome song.
05. Unrepentant - I like this song. Not one of the greatest but it is good. Just like always, the guitars sound good and I like the lyrics.
06. And Sadness Will Sear - I don't like this song. The guitars don't sound very good and the lyrics are kind of cheesy. It just sounds too quiet to me.
07. Becoming The Dragon - awesome song. The guitars sound cool in this song and I like the singing. I like the screaming part in the middle of it. That made the song sound even better. And at the end when Paolo came in with the bass solo after Matt's solo was awesome. Just don't make Paolo sing. Watch Like Light to Flies live on youtube.com to understand what I am saying. Listen on the "Bleeding Out The Eyes" part.
08. To The Rats - definitely a song worthy to make it into the shows as an opener. This is a good song and sounds good with the little bit of screaming.
09. This World Can't Tear Us Apart - I didn't expect this from Trivium. I like the song but the lyrics don't sound like anything they would write. But the sound is good. I like the guitars.
10. Tread The Floods - another cool song on the album as well as worthy of making it into shows also. The guitars are awesome in this song. The singing sounds cool. Travis Smith's (drummer) double-bassing in the chorus is really cool sounding going along with the guitars and the singing.
11. Contempt Breeds Contamination - I like the 7 string guitars in this song. It starts off a little boring but it gets better as the song progresses.
12. The Rising - as a sort of like a Metallica sound to it - in a good way. Metallica's awesome. The guitars sound kind of Metallica-ish. Has a good overall sound to it.
13. The Crusade - one of my favorite instrumentals of all-time. Paolo actually wrote all the guitar and bass lines by himself. He did a good job. I have to give him credit. He is pretty good a writing music. The Crusade and Metallica's The Call of Ktulu are my two all-time favorite instrumentals. // 9
Lyrics and Singing: Some the song lyrics sounded like they were deep and some of them didn't. Some of the lyrics to Entrance of the Conflagration sounded like they should have been screamed. The lyrics went in perfect with the music. Matt Heafy has come a long say singing-wise from Ember to Inferno to The Crusade. // 8
Impression: Trivium is following in Metallica's footsteps. Trivium got bigger as the CDs went on from Ember to Inferno to the Crusade like Metallica did from Kill 'Em All to Master of Puppets. And also for each band after their first three albums they each had a bassist die. I think Trivium might be the next Metallica but won't get as big. My favorite songs from The Crusade are Anthem, Entrance, and Tread the Floods. If I lost or if it got stolen I would buy it again if it didn't eventually get it back. // 9
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unregistered, on november 16, 2006 1 of 3 people found this review helpful
Sound: The sound on this album is absolutely overwhelming and astonishing. This band will be the future of metal along with Lamb of God and Slipknot. Matt and Corey are amazing guitarists and their solos are just overwhelmingly amazing and the breakdown's in this album are cool too and I like the cool effects they use in this song. The drums on this album have improved too but I thought that it would be really cool to have a drum intro like in Ascendancy (Pull Harder On The Strings Of Your Martyr). The bass in this album is incredible and I love that little bass solo it does in The Crusade. // 10
Lyrics and Singing: The lyrics in this album are absolutely astounding and Matt heafy can sing about anything from rage, politics to f-u all and just stuff. matt is amazing at writing lyrics I mean he isnt one of those guys that sings about "Boo hoo ho my girlfriend dumped me whaaa whaa". Matt Heafy sings about how the world is becoming corrupt an all and homophobia and racism are being major factors of how this world is now. // 10
Impression: This album can compare to some old school Metallica and the riffs are kind of thrashy (Slayer and Pantera). Every song on this album amazed and when you listen to Trivium you cannot say even one of their songs sucked I mean they are so talented at what they do and they are not a pussy band like Simple Plan. I love everything about this album and I hate nothing about it since it blew me away. If it were stolen/lost I will litteraly beat up the person and stab them and if it was lost I would buy like 5 new copies. // 10
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vodkaboy, on november 14, 2006 1 of 3 people found this review helpful
Sound: This album isn't as good as it's made out to be. There's good guitar riffs and solo's etc, but the lyrics were repetitive. Trivium have really gone down from the heaviness of Ascendancy, which I found bad as Ascendancy was an awesome album. They've lost that unique Trivium sound, now they sound like Metallica. // 6
Lyrics and Singing: As I said the yrics are repetative so the songs can get a bit boring. I didn't really enjoy the singing because as it sounds to much like Metallica, I prefered Ascendancy as I thought Matt Heafy's shouting was awesome. So I prefered Ascendancy to this album. // 5
Impression: Overall some of the guitar riffs were good, and like Ascendancy good solo's, but I thought the vocals, let it down. And also the drumming wasn't as good, not much of the crazy double bass stuff. Though I thought Anthem (We Are The Fire) was good as it had a good riff, and a good solo, but the repetitive let it down. So all in all I didn't like the album much. Somewhere between Bad and average. Oh and if your wondering why it sounds bad when I say they sound like Metallica, I don't like Metallica. // 6
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deathbat411, on november 06, 2006 0 of 0 people found this review helpful
Sound: In this album, Trivium took a turn that I might compare to what Avenged Sevenfold did for City of Evil. Matt Heafy has stopped screaming (mostly, there is still some). Trivium in the Crusade has started to sound more like Metallica. The Crusade features a wide variety of genres, ranging from Speed Metal, to '80s metal, to screaming metal. The guitars parts are very complex and sound awesome. // 10
Lyrics and Singing: Matt Heafy mostly normal sings on the Crusade, with a voice comparable to James Hetfield. The lyrics themselves, are very interesting. 2 of the songs on this album have lyrics about murder stories. (Entrance of the Conflagration, and Unrepentant) It has a song about a man that is killed by policemen because of his skin color (Comtempt Breeds Contamination). The Crusade also features a few songs about what society is becoming these days (Ignition and Detonition). And last but not least just made up story/songs. // 10
Impression: I love Crusade just as much as Ascendancy. They have token a turn in their music style. Their guitars parts are very well produced and have great lyrics to accompany them. My favorite songs include Entrance of the Conflagration, Unrepentant, To the Rats, and Tread the Floods. I love absolutately everything on this album and their is nothing to hate about, so get yer ass to the CD store or iTunes and buy Crusade, dammit! // 10
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finisher, on november 03, 2006 0 of 0 people found this review helpful
Sound: The sound and style of this album is very different from the previous two. This album sounds like a mix of Metallica, Pantera, Slayer and any other old school metal heads hero bands. Matt Heafy doesn't yell or scream any more so the songs are a lot more melodic. The guitar work is different than the last album, it's just not all string skipping the songs have good structure and cachy choruses. The guitar solos and drums are still insane and the bassist has really improved. // 9
Lyrics and Singing: The lyrics are based mostly on government.And I think one of the songs is about a book about dragons. Matt Heafy has really improved as a singer since he doesn't scream anymore. The choruses are still really cachy. "We are the fire" is the cachy chorus in Anthem. // 9
Impression: I think the best songs are: Anthem, a real hair '80s inspired metal song that kind of sounds like hair metal, good chorus, solos and bridge. Detonation, although I don't really like the beginning, halfway through the song it gets good and kind of sounds similar to Dying In Your Arms from Asendancy. The Crusade, one of the craziest songs I'v ever heard, some crazy sweet tapping and sweep picking, a couple bass solos and some impressive drums, this song is the best on the album. Overall I think this album is great. If you like old school Metallica you'll love it. If it were stolen I'd buy it twice more just in case. // 9
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unregistered, on october 24, 2006 0 of 0 people found this review helpful
Sound: As far as any thrash metal band can be, Trivium have continued to be creative in their riffs, althought the solos and lead work are very good but have lost creativity. The melodic solos always sound like something that's been done before; and in the shredding solos there's always sweep-picking thrown in and it can get a bit samey to listen to. I do like the music on the album but not half as much as ascendancy. // 8
Lyrics and Singing: Now this is the big downside. Matt Heafy dropped the screaming 'because he learnt to sing', so instead he shouts his way through most of the songs. This would sound good in just one or two songs, but a whole album? I think the vocals rip of Metallica way too much. Especially the yehea in anthem.It took me a while to get used to the new vocals. // 4
Impression: When Trivium said they wanted to be the next Metallica, I thought they meant they wanted to be the next big metal icon, not literally Metallica. It sounds so similar I actually mistook Detonation for a new Metallica song when I first heard it. All the songs are still pretty good, but nothing compared to Ascendancy or evenEmber Inferno. Listen to This World Can't Tear Us Apart, that's the best. My main dislike about the new album is the vocals, but ironically the one track I don't listen to is the instrumental, Crusade, and why? Because it's so borin, maybe it's technical nd obviously fun to write and play, but I can't listen to it, it's 8 minutes of the same thing which I can't even remember. If it was lost or stolen, I wouldn't buy it straight away. // 7
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shugo449, on october 16, 2006 1 of 5 people found this review helpful
Sound: Trivium's new album, The Crusade, is an ambitious metal album. It took many turns and diverted from the last album. This is in how lots of riffs are faster and there is a lot more focus on the whole song instead of blazing solos, as well as singer and back-up guitarist Matt Heafy singing, not screaming like some one just shoved a knife into his throat. The guitars sound a lot different than on Ascendancy, in a bad way. It seems like they got new gear. I think the other two albums guitar tones are better. This album flows a lot better as a whole than their last two albums, Ascendancy and Ember to Inferno, and they have obviously grown as musicians. A lot of the songs have a lot cooler parts, too. I'll give you an overview of the album:
01. Ignition - a burning opening track, with a cool chorus, but the verses sound like something Rob Zombie would do.
02. Detonation - I'm listening to this right now, and thinking, amazing. This song starts out fast and real Metallica sounding, but then after the first solo, there is a real cool and catchy up-beat part you won't be able to get out of your head. My favorite track on The Crusade.
03. Entrance Of The Conflagration - real fast, real heavy. Starts out with a little vocal do-dad, then it hits this amazingly heavy riff and they just blaze throughout it and after the second chorus before solo Matt gets back to his roots and screams "Entrance Of The Conflagration!" twice. A hit single and one of the highlights of the disk.
04. Anthem (We Are The Fire) - another hit single, this is another fast track, but instead of screaming about desperateness, the whole song is a bout standing up for yourself and sticking up each other, giving it a happier feel. Very catchy.
05. Unepentant - this isn't the best track, but it still is pretty good. I like it, but it's still not the best. In the first part of the chorus, Matt sounds like Wierd Al Yankovic, taking away from the very heavy feel of everything else.
06. And Sadness Will Sear - this is a real cool track. It has a good heavy feel all the way through, and lots of hard riffs and crap. But what gets me is that the solo just diverts from the rest of the song and is real AC/DC like, more classic rock than metal feel.
07. Becoming The Dragon - ok, could use more body. Even though it has a cool solo it just fails to hook you; there's no real hooky riff in the begining or anything to make you wanna listen to it all. Another track where Matt does some screaming.
08. To The Rats - this is my least favorite track. It has cool riffs and leads and a ripping solo, but it just doesn't have that much. Still a good song, Trivium can't write a bad song.
09. This World Can't Tear Us Apart - a slower track. It has a cool intro lead and a cool verse right after that. IT flows very well and each part is just really catchy. The guitar is more layed back and easier to listen to. It has a ripping solo in the middle and a blazing one at the end, but they are both quick and to the point; the whle song is quick and to the point. A good, simple, and catchy one. Also shortest track at 3:30.
10. Tread The Floods - cool intro with a simple riff and then all of a sudden these really fast ascending scales. Real fast and a good song to headbang to. Really cool and fast chorus and aa nice solo, too. Pretty good.
11. Contempt Breeds Contamination - another fast one, not much to say about it. I'm headbanging to it as I'm typing this. it's good, but doesn't really stick out.
12. The Rising - another single, it is catchy and has a real cool solo, but I think it's not that very special, most are better than this.
13. The Crusade - wow! 8:19 and a instrumental. Complete with I think five guitar solos and a bass solo. Yes, a bass solo! Real awesome, they definetly broke there backs to write this one. Some riffs are told Slayer fast. But some are almost like a Fall Out Boy riff, real complex and astonishing. I love this track. // 7
Lyrics and Singing: A lot of these tracks sing about killing or suicide (Detonation, Entrance Of The Conflagration, Unrepentant, And Sadness Will Sear, Becoming the Dragon, Tread the Floods, Contempt Breeds Contamination and The Rising). That's a lot, and it doesn't exactly perk you up. Others sing about no one being able to take Matt away from their lover (This World Can't Tear Us Apart) and standing together and helping others(Anthem). Those are the only Lyrical bright spots, sadly. There are two tracks that sing about killing your children. These are "Entrance of the Conflagration" and "Unrepentant". "Entrance of the Conflagration" is about the tragic incedent in Texas where a pastor's wife pled to being insane after drowning her four children to death on purpose in her bathtub. It also sings of being possessed by Satan and blasts the bible and Jesus, as well as singing about suicide. "Unrepentant" is a bout a man who thinks his full-grown daughters commit adultry on their husbands and kills them because he doesn't want them to bring shame to his family. Well, if people don't look at you with shame after killing your four daughters, how do they look at you? // 6
Impression: I got this on the release day, Oct. 13, and I was expecting to get blasted away after hearing "Entrance Of The Conflagration". I was getting what it thought until I hit halfway through the album, there until "The Crusade" it is all pretty the same and blah. I was truely dissapointed. If I lost it, I would just buy the good tracks on iTunes, if it stinking worked! For a Trivium fan like me, you need this but for someone that doesn't die for them, I wouldn't recomend it. Get Ascendancy. // 8
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demonsheep, on october 16, 2006 2 of 10 people found this review helpful
Sound: Good guitar: Corey and Matt have insane solo/duels throughout the whole album. not so pleased with the bass, the only really amazing bass is behind "Anthem (We Are The Fire)", "Becoming The Dragon", and "The Crusade" (which is an instrumental anyway, and the only good song on the album, apart from "Anthem (We Are The Fire)." The drums throughout the album are amazing, but they really need to be more tuneful, rather than just hitting the cymbal every other note. A few of the heavier tracks use a 7-string guitar, you can tell. It doesn't help, theyr still awful. they should have stayed with screaming, not just singing. // 6
Lyrics and Singing: The lyrics are really badly written, they don't fit in with the music at all, except for two songs, and they are almost as if written by a 4 year old. Not good Trivium, not good. Should have stayed screaming, then at least nobody would hear the awful lyrics. Not as good as Ascendancy or Ember To Inferno. // 2
Impression: Nothing on Ember To Inferno, Rubbish compared to Ascendancy. only good songs are Anthem (We Are The Fire), The Crusade. Nothing to love, except the guitar breaks. Hate lyrics, way Matt sings, lack of bass soloing. Not gona get another copy if it's stolen. Not worth the 10.99 it cost in my opinion. // 4
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unregistered, on october 12, 2006 5 of 26 people found this review helpful
Sound: First off, I loved Ascendancy and everything about it. The guitars, bass, drums, and singing. This album is nothing like Ascendancy at all. The riffs are lame cheesy arena rock rip-offs. Most of the songs sound exactly the same in structure and melodies. I was very dissapointed. The solos are ok, but not guitar hero stuff like they promised. Any one of the solos on the crusade would fit in any other song. It's mostly just fast alternate picked runs staright out of John Petrucci and Paul Gilberts instructional vids. The most dissapointing aspect of The Crusade to me was the singing. He doesn't scream and the only actual singing is on half of "Detonation" I would describe the new voice as a retaded James Hetfield being hit by a car but only worse. each song has the same vocal melody pretty much. "Entrance Of The Conflagration" especially sucks. // 6
Lyrics and Singing: I guess the lyrics are ok. the titles have big words, but I think he just does that to be cool, I don't know. The lyrics don't really matter though, since Matt's awful, awful voice drives you insane. I'll give the lyrics a 10 though because they themselves aren't bad. They're probably the least shitty thing on the album. // 10
Impression: Trivium keeps saying that this album is really showing their influences of Metallica, Megadeth, and Maiden but all 3 of those bands are exponentially better. I just don't hear any similarities between them and any of those bands except for the voice which I've already talked about. The best song is easily "The Crusade". It has no vocals(thank god) and has some neat riffs but the song doesn't seem to gel together like "Orion" or "To Live Is To Die". It feels forced like they had 15 leftover riffs and just put them together into one song. I would say this song is like the hottest retarded girl in America. She may be hot but she'd still retarded. If it was stolen I would be happy. // 4
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TheNthDimension, on october 12, 2006 1 of 5 people found this review helpful
Sound: Whether you like them or not, it's been rather hard to miss Trivium lately. Although it's still good solid metalcore, the thrashy influences to which the band lay claim really show through on this album and the pace rarely drops. The guitar work is very impressive, with some catchy rhythms and impressive solos, there isn't a single song without at least one. The influence of bands such as Iron Maiden shows through particularly clearly in some of the harmony parts as well as in other parts of the songs ("You will slaughter/All your daughters", anyone) and some power metal influences also shine through on songs such as "The Rising" and to a lesser extent "Anthem (We Are The Fire)". The songs are mostly quite similar, the above mentioned "Anthem" and "The Rising" being the most catchy. Also standing out are "And Sadness Will Sear", a slower song about the murder of Matthew Shepard, and the closing title track "The Crusade", an eight minute instrumental showcase. Overall, the album is both catchy and technically complex, and shows that Trivium have advanced musically since Ascendancy, a notable difference being that Matt sings a lot more (but more about that below, of course). The songs do feel like they lack some originality and it's a bit like playing Spot The Influence at times, but overall this is a very good album and I for one look forward to hearing it live. // 9
Lyrics and Singing: First, let me say the lyrics on this album are absolutely appalling. The criticism of politics and religion which permeates the songs (try opener "Ignition" and "Unrepentant" to see what I mean) seems thin and forced, and the scansion is completely terrible, meaning that Matt has to sing some bits so fast to make them fit they come out seeming garbled and hard to understand. In terms of content, "Becoming The Dragon" stands out here as being somewhat less forced, being written about a book one of the band members likes. And the bit many of you will have been waiting for, Matt's "new" voice. Apart from a few "Dying In Your Arms" style choruses, it sounds like Hetfield. Even the band admit it. It will be a turn off for some, but I don't see it's a problem, that's who he's influenced by, that's what he sounds like. You'll have to decide for yourself. This section still gets two out of ten because the lyrics are so bad. // 2
Impression: I like it. It's a step forward to Trivium developing their own style, although at times it seems as though they're trying too hard to be all their favourite thrash metal heroes at once, and although the lyrics are awful in my opinion, the music makes up for it and I would buy it again if I lost it, basically, it's good, but I can't see it making many converts. A lot of people will have made their minds up already and Trivium do little to prove them wrong. // 9
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guitartilldeath, on october 12, 2006 1 of 3 people found this review helpful
Sound: The band is called Trivium and once again, they're here again with new material that I'm sure, isn't going to disappoint any of their current fans. The insanely catchy riffs, to-die-for solos and generally good musicianship from these guys really show what they have to offer in the new album of theirs. I have to admit that these guys do sound a bit like Metallica, Iron Maiden and Slayer, knowing that those bands influenced them a lot but in no way does Trivium plagiarize them in any way. On a whole, the guitars, drums, vocals and bass in this album sound excellent. // 10
Lyrics and Singing: The lyrics in the album aren't going to let you down either. From what I'd heard, there's really nothing cheesy going on besides the songs being so catchy and fitting in with the instruments. Even though lead vocalist Matt Heafy had decided to make the album much more melodic by not having that much growls in this album, it surely didn't upset me even I enjoyed his growling in their previous album, Ascendancy. The good thing is that the choruses are still remaining strong as they were on the album Ascendancy by how catchy everything is. I already had a few songs continuously ringing in my head after listening to them for the first few times, so that's something good to look out for and there's really no stopping you from singing your heart out along with the catchy songs in public. // 9
Impression: In my opinion I really think that this album is as good as their other album Ascendancy, and probably even better. There just happened to be more songs that I really like on this album than I did with the other one. My favorite songs on this album include "Ignition", "Detonation", "Entrance Of The Conflagration", "Anthem (We Are The Fire)", "And Sadness Will Sear", "This World Can't Tear Us Apart" and "Tread The Floods". The real stand-outs in this album for me would really be "Anthem (We Are The Fire)" and "And Sadness Will Sear". The whole of "Anthem" is a real treat, just as it is. The way the song's so catchy and how it kind of resembles the song "A Gunshot To The Head Of Trepidation" by purposefully having a few bars at the end where there's actually a deliberate time for the band to collaborate with the crowd and get them to start following what Matt Heafy's saying. "And Sadness Will Sear" on the other hand is a real head-banger in the intro of the song and the whole thing in general sounds very heavy indeed, as this song's played on a 7-string guitar to really give it that mean feel. Moving on, I think the only bad thing about this album is that the electric guitars may have taken the spotlight for too long and the drumming wasn't too impressive in this album, even there were a few 'wow' moments such as the drumming in "Tread The Floods" when Travis L. Smith gives us almost 20 seconds of pure constant double bassing at over 200bpm a few times. The drumming on this album is really good overall but the bassist on the other hand really wasn't heard. There was just way too much emphasis on the guitar in this album and it would've been great if we got to hear an equal proportion of all the instruments working together. So if this album were stolen, I'd definitely buy it again because I'd miss having everything really, including the insane guitar solos, great drumming, melodic vocals and pretty much having the songs stuck in my head. Anyway I hope you guys found my review helpful and you might not agree with me regarding some things I wrote but it's all written solely on my own opinion. // 10
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Reck, on october 12, 2006 1 of 5 people found this review helpful
Sound: Prepare for a long-ass review, cause my ass sure waited long for this album! If you are a fan of Trivium’s sound, then you may hate or love their change in sound. You can clearly still recognise their sound but mainly vocals have changed. Screaming used as a basis to deliver the lyrics has been dropped and replaced by a raspy, intense singing voice. Similar to that of Testament and Metallica, although you can clearly tell the voice apart from others. Lots of songs still have that fast thrashy vibe running through it but on some songs of the albums are slower, allowing you to do some head-banging. The guitar work is incredible as usual, producing sweet harmonised lines and riffs to just brutally fast fret board aerobics. The bass work is outstanding. A lot of music in this genre has bass guitar parts barely audible but there are a few bass solos in there which are quite impressive. The drums are also outstanding as usual. Trivium do not fail to deliver on their instruments. // 10
Lyrics and Singing: As usual, Heafy's (lead singer) lyrics don't fall short of expectations. Instead of focusing on the himself or the band personally, the lyrics talk more about problems occurring in society. E.g. the first song "Ignition" talks about the world setting itself up for destruction, "Detonation" talks about the world detonating. Heafy's voice has vastly improved and is a huge step up from Trivium's older albums. Screaming is now used as an effect and it sure sounds damn awesome. // 10
Impression: Overall, awesome album, with a few weaker tracks. All of the songs have awesome lyrical and instrument work. Definitely a must-buy album. // 10
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NoSoupForYou711, on october 12, 2006 0 of 0 people found this review helpful
Sound: Well I have heard many metal albums over my lifetime, and though many roused my attention, only a select few truely inspired me and we're imbedded in my mind even months after hearing it. The Crusade will be one of those indefinetely. The sound has really changed immensely from that of Ascendancy and ETI and for the better I can honestly state imo. But many will argue Matthew K. Heafy's new "Hettfield-esque" vocals will tarnish this bands place in the top metal ranks. I would disagree with all of those statements. If you listen close you will hear Heafy's own signature vocal style, and his melodic soft singing is very reminiscent of Ascendancy. Even the guitars have changed. The distortion seems much heavier and the guitars themselves rather than Gibsons and Ibanezes now consist of Deans. The solo's and tight intricate guitarwork on this album will blow all of Ascendancy out of the water, especially The Crusade's 8 and a half minute instrumental masterpiece title track "The Crusade". That song is by far the embodiment of Triviums new sound in a nutshell. Swift time sig changes, changing scales completely mid-song. Even the new useage of a 7-string electric and some more acoustic work from none other than Heafy. Even Corey's shredding insanity has drastically improved. Paolo has grown from being just a rythm bassist to busting out cranked up bass solos and bass lines all throughout the album. Matt and Corey have also develped a strong liking for Wah solos, whammy squeals (via Matt), and arpeggios of almost any kind. In all, the sound in my eyes is some of the best I have ever heard in my life. // 10
Lyrics and Singing: Matt's lyrics have dramatically increased in substance. He has moved on from simply singing of his own personal issues, to more global socio-political lyrics. Do not distress however, he didn't go all political on his fans. In such songs as "Unrepentant" and "Entrance Of The Conflagration" he takes his usual strong stand against child abuse but cranked up about 12 notchest. Entrance being about a woman that drowns her children for fear of satan, and Unrepentant a poor father slaughters his children. While songs like "Anthem (We Are The Fire)" and "The Rising" kind of lack lyrical brilliance, they are still good fist shaking songs. He also sings of a true story, the tale of the young man Sheppard whom was tied up to a fence, beaten, and left for dead all for his sexuality ("And Saddness Will Sear"). "There is a lot of negativity, but hopefully it will spark up some want to do something" said Heafy about the lyrics on the album. But those that do not like all the negativity will enjoy "This World Can't Tear Us Apart" as Cory describes to be "baby-making music" on Mike Davis's Rock Show. // 9
Impression: As a whole the album definetely has inspired me and has enveloped me in sheer musical brilliance from people that are barely at Americas legal drinking age. Even though it has it's weak points in my opinion (ironically Paolo's songs "Anthem" and "The Rising") The Crusade more than makes up for it with other songs. The songs that have really stuck in my mind (though I passionately love everyone of them) are "Entrance Of The Conflagration" for it's lyrical topic and the brilliant solo part in the middle, "Ignition" for the very mournful chorus, "Unrepentant" and "Tread The Floods" because Corey wrote the guitarwork for them (accpet Matt's solos of course) and he is an extremely talented writer, "And Saddness Will Sear" for the intense yet simplistic 7-string guitar riffs, and of course last but not least "The Crusade" for it is just sheerly musical brilliance. I will not elaborate on "The Crusade" because I do not wish to spoil this amazing song, but believe me it is everything Trivium claims it to be. In conclusion If this album were stolen I'd sure as hell buy this metallic masterpiece yet again. // 10
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Majin Gaara, on october 12, 2006 1 of 2 people found this review helpful
Sound: As of course, I bet all of you have heard that this whole record sounds like a intense, '80s thrash metal record. Well it's true, but, it has a little blend of trivium style in it so it sounds actually pretty good. In all the songs the sound and style is perfect! The tones are really nice. I can hear a lot of melodic, technical riffs and rythems played a piece to each of the songs. For Trivium switching to this it's really decent. Paolo goes all four fingers on this album and dosent use a pick anymore, To that and Corey Beaulieu (guitarist) has much more backing vocal parts but some parts sound so gay it's what got this rating a 9. Other then his screaming at some parts it awesome! // 9
Lyrics and Singing: The lyrics for this whole album is something special. Although Matt Heafy(vocalist/guitarist) sings about a lot of regular stuff and is a lot different singing style and lyrically then 'Ascendancy'. The crusade has a few songs talking about war to rape, to murder, to relationships. You will be pretty pleased lyrically. Everything is nice and in sequence, everything fits nicely. // 8
Impression: Overall I'd give this album a 9 becuase of how amazing Trivium has done it again. It and 'Ascendancy' are totally different but this has a lot more technicality to it and structure-like songs. Just like 'Ascendancy', there is a solo in every song, yes a solo in every song. Alhough sadley they seem to be more shred like solos that go along with the song and such and they don't really seem to have that trivium solo thing were it was a lot more melodic like Matts solo in 'A Gunshot To The Head Of Trepidation'. This album contains a lot of headbanging. Yes, the solo's are decent. But the overal music aspect is great and this album is very awesome. Very technical, very influence-like and catchy. This a must-buy album for metal heads! // 9
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corrda00, on october 17, 2007 0 of 1 people found this review helpful
Sound: Trivium. One word to describe them. Awesome. The skill of these people is crazy. I'd have to say that Mat Heafy is the best rhythm guitarists ever, I can barley play it yet alone sing to it. Travis' astonishingly fast drums just add a little more to the album. Me being a bass player myself can truly appreciate Palao's bass solos in Becoming the dragon, The crusade and broken one(only on itunes version)All very good for a band only in their early '20s.
01. Ignition - I love the heavy intro, it's so fast, and Travis' double bass crazy tom stuff strings it together well. As like many trivium songs it has a nice calmer breakdown/chorus. I love the fast guitar in the verses and Mats crazy solo. The outro could use some work though.
02. Detonation - it's almost too good to describe. It flows well from Ignition, I thought both were the same song when I first heard it. The verse has a good feel/rhythm too it. It brings me back to their old stuff with the screaming. Mat as usual has a crazy solo with a lot of whammy. Now the best part, the breakdown, you just can't help to fall in love with this part. I like how the drums add just the perfect rhythm to the song. It ends with a great trademark dual solo.
03. Entrance Of The Conflagration - it has a nice vocal into.Love the verse riff, the chorus can do better though. I like the crisp tremolo picking bass that backs up the guitar and drums nicely. I like the bridge with the almost eerie diminished sounding intervals. Need I say that Mat has awesome solo.
04. Anthem (We Are The Fire) - great intro with great pulsing bass. I love the solo. Love the dual solo. I wish they had better lyrics than "yeah" during the bridge. Ends on a Mat solo.
05. Unrepentant - like the wah intro, I think it's wah. Love the double bass in the verse. I wish the lead in the chorus was louder it's sooo good. And Corey has a amazing solo this time. I like the vocal breakdown in the middle.
06. And Sadness Will Sear - I like the 7-string ultra low into-hate the fact that I need a 7 string to play it. I love that you can actually hear the bass in the into, and who doesn't love toms. It has a good bridge too. And a Great solo by Corey.
07. Becoming The Dragon - I love the bridge with the screaming, takes me back to the old trivium, and how heavy this song it, WoW.I like how the outro guitar solo switches to a fantastic bass solo by Palao.
08. To The Rats - it was written by Grogotto, but no bass solo what a shame. I like the verse riff, Love the chorus. It is so heavy, all the screaming adds to that too. I love Mat's solo (I know I'm sounding like a broken record). I love the outro, it's the lyrics of the chorus with a more melodic riff.
09. This World Can't Tear Us Apart - great lyrics, Great sound. It's not Overly complex, for trivium at least. But it has a good melodic sound. It's a little repetitive though.
10. Tread The Floods - love the intro with Corey's lead stuff. it's actually the same as the chorus. I don't like the arrangement though, I don't like having to wait for the awesome chorus. Mat has a great solo, as usual.
11. Contempt Breads Contamination - love the intro. I really like the lead in the verse. It really catches you when it goes from a heavy verse instantly to the chorus. Corey gets a great solo. 2 actually.
12. The Rising - like the drum intro, not to fast but still good. You may think that I am a bassist so I would love this song, no. It's like saying Pete Wentz is good. Sorry Palao but the bass in this song is too basic, just open E string, the guitar however is good, no, great. I love how Corey busts that solo out of nowhere. Crazy. Corey has some good lead riffs in the chorus too.
13. The Crusade - I can't lie, I have a thing for instrumentals, so I liked this song before I heard it, Now I love it, bass solos crazy lead riffs. I find it all has a classical feel(In a heavy metal way) I like the bass in the 2nd bridge. I love the lead guitar in the 1stbridge too. I love the solo, can't lie. It just has a happy feel. The outro is perfect for the last song on the album. I think that this song is worthy of being the title song.
14. Broken One - this is only on the itunes version. It sucks, cause this it there bast song. I love the bass intro and the singing. The verse guitar is awesome.
15. Dieing In Your Arms - I haven't really heard this song since it's on the itunes version. I like the melodiousness of it though. Mat has a solo (tell me something I don't know). // 9
Lyrics and Singing: First a little story about Mat. Growing up he was not Able to sing well so he learned to scream(this is why there is so much screaming on the earlier albums). This is the first album where he did the majority singing. Love the lyrics in detonation, It's like Mat is telling 2 sides of a story, the enemy and victim. A lot of the songs tell a story, like unrepentant, a story of a father who kills his daughters to preserve his own honor. The lyrics in This world can't tear us apart are the best lyrics I have heard by this band. The sound/skills. Mat has taken on a James Hetfield style singing instead screaming, and he still uses his melodic vocals for the chorus' and bridges ect. He still throws in those screams in hear and there like in to the rats and becoming the dragon. I don't think there's any thing bad I can say about the lyrics. // 10
Impression: There is no word to describe it. Just wow. I didn't believe my friend when he went on saying "Trivium are the future of metal" and "they're the next Metallica" Now I say that too. I love too many things to say other than Mat's solos. I hate how they had to put broken one and dieing in your arm on the itunes version, especially broken one, it's like my favorite song ever. If I lost it, I would not just buy this album, I would buy all the other albums too. // 9
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jpgilbert701, on september 22, 2007 0 of 1 people found this review helpful
Sound: Trivium's new album The Crusade was highly anticipated by fans. Many of us expected a great album like Ascendancy.While some might say that Trivium has sold out or just copied the older thrash metal bands such as Metallica, they still keep a sound that is their own.
01. Ignition - decent song. Probably not the best opener but still. The guitars on it seemed a bit out of the norm for these guys but it still had that Trivium-ish rhythm.
2. Detonation - to be honest, I hate the first half of this song. Everything seems as if it was just rushed. The whammy bar solo and the solo right after seemed like complete Slayer ripoffs. I don't like Slayer very much but they instantly came to mind. Right after this part I think the song really shines as it brings back memories of Ascendancy. The sweeped arpeggios in the solos sounded like they shouldn't be there though.
03. Entrance Of The Conflagration - good song. I like the whole song since it seems to flow nicely. I especially like the riff right before the solos (which are again, nothing great).
04. Anthem (We Are The Fire) - first of all, I think this songs title is really stupid. I like the song minus the parts where Matt is singing and the guitars just kind of strum. It just really makes the song slow down then speed up and slow down. I don't know I didn't really like that. Other than that good song.
05. Unrepentant - this song seems like it would have some promise but the vocals kill it during the verse. The shortlived solo on this song is actually good. I like how it fits in with the rhythm guitar in the back. Overall not really a high point of the album.
06. And Sadness Will Sear - I believe this song was written using a 7 string which was a nice a nice change. Matt made good use of it but again the verses really ruin the song. The choruses are decent but end up becoming old and jaded. The Solo in this song was ok. It was one of the better ones on the album but the ending is what makes this solo good instead of great.
07. Becoming The Dragon - this song would be my favorite if the solos didn't totally ruin it. Everything would be perfect but these guys seem to ruin all their songs by coming up with boring verses or forced solos especially the bass solo which seemed dumb.
08. To The Rats - my least favorite track on the album. I don't like this song because I just can't stand the cheesy lyrics. Especially the chorus. I mean the words "Break every bone in your face" and "I'll mess with your blood" are so stupid not to mention the whole "A skull f--k (a skull f--k)" thing sounded really gay. The whole feel is great but the lyrics totally kill this song.
09. This World Can't Tear Us Apart - the album's "Dying In Your Arms". There isn't much else to say about this song except that the lyrics at times seem lame. Solid song but nothing special.
10. Tread The Floods - this song is just like Becoming The Dragon. Great song but again the damn singing and lyrics kill it until it hits the chorus. This song has a cool solo though. Seems like track 7s opposite.
11. Contempt Breeds Contamination - intro seemed cool and all again nice change with the 7 string. Then the verse comes and the song dies. I really dig the pre-chorus and the chorus but the lyrics in the chorus are pretty lame.
12. The Rising - this song is the standout track on the album. Not that it's great, but it has a different feel to it. Really southern sound. The solos are cool here too. Pretty decent song.
13. The Crusade - the last track on the album. In my opinion this song really shows Matt's songwriting skills. Best song on the album.
Overall I think this album could've been great if the lyrics were better and the solos didn't seem rushed. // 6
Lyrics and Singing: The lyrics on this album really are the downfall. They are pretty bad compared to Ascendancy. They are usually about the government or overcoming obstacles but songs such as Contempt Breeds Contamination, And Sadness Will Sear and Entrance of The Conflagration have a story that they are based off of. I've never been a fan of mixing music with government but some bands can do it. These guys not so much. Matt's voice changed and it doesn't seem like it's him. I'm not saying go back to screaming (god knows there's enough of that around) but it doesn't suit him. Maybe he's still getting used to it and it'll sound better on the next album. // 4
Impression: This album doesn't compare to Ascendancy at all and maybe not even to Ember To Inferno. I could listen to every track on Ascendancy and not be skipping songs. I find myself only listening to The Crusade on this album as it is the most impressive song on here. I like some of the guitar work and some solos but I hate the lyrics. The style of singing doesn't bother me but the way things are sung do. If I lost this or it was stolen I probably wouldn't buy it again just because it gets boring to listen to. // 7
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unregistered, on october 13, 2006 0 of 1 people found this review helpful
Sound: Here is something that evryone should have looked forward to, a real metal album. The sound brings out intense, fast, old school thrash, the likings of Metallica, Megadeth, Pantera, Testament, Anthrax, and Slayer with a bit of melody thrown in for good measure. The guiatr playing is fantastic, like some people would sell their soul to the devil to play like that, with tight awesome rhythms, and epic sols and Megadeth-esque trade-offs. The bass and drums sound tighter than ever. I mean for someone their age these guys have unbelievable talent. // 10
Lyrics and Singing: This has been my complaint about the last few years with the thrash/death/metalcore scene (whatever you call it). The singing is that same talentless growl/screaming that everyone so likes to copy each other, but Matt has a real articulate voice that seems to just drive the intensity of the music. The lyrics are ranged in ways that some resemble Kill Em All Metallica, that say their going to be an unstoppable Juggarnaut (Anthem, The Rise). Others deal with being a badass (To The Rats), or war (Ignition, Detonation). Most of the others are about murder such as Entrance or And Sadness Will Seer. I mean Matt's been busy writing some teriffic lyrics. // 10
Impression: How the hell did they make such an incredible album in just a year? This is just a flawless tribute to the old school, but Trivium is reinventing it for the new millenium. All the songs are great but the best one by far is the insane instrumental closing title track. This album makes Ascendency look like crap (even though I like Ascendency). Look, their are a lot of fans who hate them now, but if you like Megadeth, Slayer, Testament, and Pantera and you hate this album than you hate those bands. If it was stolen I would find whoever took it and murder them brutally. If it was lost I would be pissed for next couple days and definatley buy it again. // 10
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headfirst, on october 13, 2006 0 of 1 people found this review helpful
Sound: The Sound for this album is amazing, no doubt helped by Matts new razorback and Corey's Razorback V (The owner of the very first one ever. the guitar work on this album is exceptional, very tight with some very hard pieces for Matt to play while singing, infact he admitted that one of Corey's masterpieces called "Tread The Floods" might be too hard for him to play live. The solo's are as fast and as amazing as you would expect from Trivium, though not as many of them are haramonised as they were in ascendency, which obviously isn't all that bad, makes them very fast and very powerful. // 10
Lyrics and Singing: The lyrics of this album are much more focused on worldwide issues rather than Matts own life, with the starting track "Ignition" talking about america being a very paranoid place trying to force people not to be different, which seems to be the theme for a lot of the tracks such as "Contempt Breeds Contamination" and "And Sadness Will Sear" though that track is about a man named Matthew Sheppard who was strapped to a fence by 2 guys and beaten to death because he was gay, and the song follows along the events and the sadness that followed. // 9
Impression: Greatest album I have ever heard, and I've heard quite a few in my time, even surpasses Master of Puppets and Cowboys From Hell. First album I've ever listened to and liked every single track, very very rare. All of the guitar work is astounding and the vocals just work so well with the new guitar style, it really does have that old school thrash kind of sound but at the same time Trivium add a whole lot of their own passion into the works, making it the single greatest album and the best buy ever. // 10
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IndieLee, on october 13, 2006 0 of 1 people found this review helpful
Sound: If you've been hearing what other people say, you would probably hear they sound much like Metallica. In my opinion, the whole sound of it all is still greatly Trivium, it's got that distinct sound to me, with the palm mutes, fast picking and of course, the insane solo and composition of the songs. From the previous album, the new sound for Trivium would be his vocals and the bits I hate, being the sharp pauses and sudden changes of the rhythm. The drums, I didn't really like. I don't like the whole snare, cymbal, bass bashing. But when the chorus comes, all is restored with some technique amongst them. // 9
Lyrics and Singing: Matt Heafy can definitely sing better. As much as I loved the screaming in the Ascendancy album, he does good enough and sometimes better in some of these songs without his screams. I don't like singing when the drums are bashing all at once (as explained above), it sucks up the effectiveness of the vocals and drowns it. When the chorus comes in the songs, I think it's absolutely amazing - spot on. Heafy can dish the vocals out amazingly. Along with his superb singing, the lyrics themselves are outstanding- each set of lyrics mix well with the music and digs deep into emotions. He blows me away each time with his talent to pick out words that you would not expect. If not the amazing guitar, the lyrics are definitely what makes them Trivium. Overall, Heafy has improved with his singing, one thing I would add is when he stretches along with the guitar, I don't like that (explained later). The backing vocals in songs such as, "Anthem (We Are The Fire)" were a new thing, but it became to grow on me, first judgements should not be the final ones. // 9
Impression: 01. Ignition - a nice heavy riff at the start, and immediately Matt comes in with his lyrics. At this point, two things I hate, as I've said before, the drum bashing and his word stretching. Behind it is a great guitar riff going along well with vocals. The chorus is the high point in this song. A nice low-to-high solo by Matt which fits perfectly with the song. The cut-off of the electric guitar was a nice touch, I think. Definitely a good start to the album.
02. Detonation - first time I heard this song was when they played it live, I was going to cry at the lack of greatness in this song. But thankfully I kept my hopes up, his singing in this reinforces my comment on the stretching, I can stand it sometimes and it suits it sort of, but all in all, I don't like it. The break in it after "Det-ton-na-tion" is bad, the drums and the guitar. I'm not a musical master, but the sliding sound puts me off - after that is the solo. The solo I just hated, it sounded like a Darrell Abbott solo but lacking in length, and if I didn't want to go deaf I would have heard the solo after the harmonic at the start. Again, in this song, there's a nice break but with the drums this time. The chorus comes in and along comes another solo (this time, great). I love the rest of this song till the end, solos and everything.
03. Entrance Of The Conflagration - this song is an example of Matt's mastery (I think) in lyrics, even looking at the song title, I was amazed at how he could fit it into the song. It was pure talent. The guitar has an awesome riff with nice fills of "ooh"'s. When I heard the lick just before the solos I thought it was all going to crash and burn but it flew right into the first solo which caught me off guard. It returns back into the intro riff and then another verse. Finishing off with a nice low note.
04. Anthem (We Are The Fire) - this song has an awesome intro, with a short solo by Matt. His lyrics are fantastic with backing vocals it is such a perfect bundle. For a great song, this is surprisingly short. Nice quick verses and then extended parts with the backing vocals only and then the solos come in by Corey, Matt then back to Corey. After all that, Matt does some "Woah-oh"'s and "Yeah"'s along with the crowd, which I thought was very early metal style but it was a great song with the backing vocals as it was an "anthem". Repeats the chorus a few times and then a ending solo by Matt. Well done.
05. Unrepentant - this song is exceptionally long, excluding the last instrumental song. The guitar is alright in this, with the drum crashing in second bar. This is a song which I don't like Matt's lyrics, I can't put it into the right words, but it's just lower standard than the rest of the lyrics of the album. The song overall is amazing, if the lyrics were only better in my opinion. You can tell that the song builds up throughout it and eventually a solo comes in after the intro is repeated. It's mostly repeated and then ends, and this is somewhat weird but the guitar comes in again for a few seconds and cuts out again.
06. And Sadness Will Sear - I love the high-gain guitar at the start of this. This is one of my favorite songs yet on this album. The guitar gives a creepy feel with the song, as Matt sings. Both guitars come in, in the chorus and it very climatic but dies down into the next verse. The chorus comes again, and an interlude. This is all building higher and higher. And Matt does what Matt Heafy does best - a killer solo. I just love it. It's all composed awesomely, the chorus is repeated and Corey comes in with a nice ending solo as Matt sings on. Excellent song.
07. Becoming The Dragon - this song sort of reminds me of Heafy's origin, Japan, the fact that there's a Dragon and he mentions about koi fish. There is some screaming in this song which makes it a good song to listen to but as you listen more closely to the lyrics it is a bit cheesy but other things compensate for it. What sticks this song out of all the others is the bass solo at the end, as well as a solo by Heafy, pure class.
08. To The Rats - a speedy riff opens this song, with a drum bash. The tempo of this is great, it suits it so well. I really like the lyrics of this song, not to spoil it too much, it sort of goes "Break-ever-y-bone in your-face!" and then the chorus which I thought was great. A nice scream or two in this song with some edgy solos, again, with whammy and harmonics, etc. At the end it slows down and Heafy ends it with his awesome vocals on the one word.
09. This World Can't Tear Us Apart - hell yes! It's so hard to pick this song or "And Sadness Will Sear", this is f--king awesome! The guitar playing along with Matt's vocals, breaking when he breaks, playing when he sings and the chorus is the most melodic. This whole song is the closest to melodic of them all, just like "Dying In Your Arms" of the Ascendancy album. Great guitar build-ups and excellent solo. This is definitely a chunk out of the cake.
10. Tread The Floods - this song reminds me of "Suffocating Sight", a good riff intro and then breaks into a heavy guitar. The lyrics are very much like Metallica, I think. Sort of like, "Master Of Puppets" maybe. His scream before the chorus is good, and the pace of the chorus makes it fitting for the quick guitar riff. Corey comes in with a solo which is sort of like the solo in "Dying In Your Arms", quick, slick and quite the expertly composed one always loved his solos in the previous album.
11. Contempt Breeds Contamination - this goes back to the sort of new sound Trivium has brought up. Not the best I don't think so, I reckon this is a song which shows how powerful his voice is. The song has some good punches, the lyrics are little iffy though "41 shots", "19 times", a bit too random for me.
12. The Rising - this song starts off with a nice riff and a opening solo. It makes me picture a march or something, something to prove a point because with the lyrics you can easily picture it if told. He addresses 'us' in the lyrics. A powerful crash of the snare is signature in this song along with a heavy guitar, nothing fast just slow, heavy and strong. And what else to break that than another solo. I like the way the bass was heard in this song. The marching effect continues till the end.
13. The Crusade - an instrumental, I won't type on about this (I've typed too much or non-relevant stuff probably), all I would say is that it's from the previous Trivium, the new Trivium and bits of Metallica. It's a great composition and is the perfect way to end the album.
Still there? Awesome, well, just to end it, I would definately recommend this album to anyone who likes quick riffs, heavy drums and amazing vocals once again. And previous Trivium fans who have seconds thought or near-final decision on not to get this, don't be fooled. It is packed with amazing compositions and if it isn't too bad to say, it's even great to sing to. If I lost this, I would buy two. One to listen/lend to friends, the second one to keep in my room so if I ever lost one I knew where the other would be. // 10
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Clownmite, on october 13, 2006 0 of 1 people found this review helpful
Sound: Most of the music here is great. It's lost a lot of metalcore influence and gained a lot of thrash influence. It's still not true metal, but there are instances when you might mistake them for an '80s thrash band if you didn't know it was already Trivium. Instead of the longer, more flowing riffs we're used to from Ascendancy, the riffage of this album is more focused around more basic rythms and having technical fills at the end of a riff. Overall, some pretty great music, each song is listenable, and it's perfectly do-able to listen to the whole CD through without having to hit "next track." // 9
Lyrics and Singing: Matt's voice sounds pretty good in the album, but you almost wish he was still undecipherably screaming because the lyrics are so horrible. Whatever happened to the relatively deep lyrics from parts of Ember to Inferno? The lyrics on The Crusade are almost laughable at times. It's a relief that the song The Crusade is so good so you don't have to worry about Matt's lyrics ruining the song. Most metalcore/metal music isn't focused on the lyrics, so most people won't care that the lyrics are so bad. The lyrics are so bad that they hurt the album. // 3
Impression: As long as you're not paying attention to the lyrics, the album is great. It's not true metal, but it's not really metalcore anymore. There's a lot of skill here for such young band members. My favorite tracks are Ignition, Detonation, and Tread The Floods, but all of the songs are pretty good. // 9
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4metal, on october 12, 2006 0 of 1 people found this review helpful
Sound: First of all, I love Trivium and I love their first two albums. When I heard that there wasn't going to be anymore screaming in this album I'll admit that I was a little disappointed, but after hearing the songs I didn't care anymore. Heafy has a great voice, some say he sounds too much like Hetfield but I think the overall sound of the album is great. it's heavy, it has a lot of solos. Guitars are outstanding, once again Matt's and Corey's ability just blow me away. The drums are some of the best I've ever heard, really mastered the double bass. // 9
Lyrics and Singing: The lyrics have a lot of meaning in this album. Heafy really seems to be against people who discriminate against others and he thinks that it is a huge problem in the United States. I'm not gonna lie, he's right. There are a couple of songs on this album that mention homophobia and altough it may seem like "man, that isn't metal" the context he puts it in really makes it heavy. And Sadness Will Sear is a song about a gayman that was murdered. He also has a lot to say about racism because it is mentioned a lot and he also mentions a lot about parents killing their kids. He brings out a lot of societies issues that are going on today and I think it is great writing. // 8
Impression: There are so many great things about this album. First off the name of the first song "Ignition" is just a bad ass way to start an album. The next song "Detonation" is not only perfectly coupled with ignition but it is a heavy song about nuclear war. Entrance Of The Conflagration and Unrepentant are both songs about parents killing their kids which is first of all a really heavy topic and with the guitars and lyrics it makes it even more metal. Contempt Breeds Contamination is a great song that shows Heafy's anger against racism, and especially in this song about cops who kill african americans just because of their race. Overall this album is great, it's really new for Trivium especially with the transition of singing, but it is still a great heavy metal album. // 9
The Crusade
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Frostithe, on october 12, 2006 0 of 1 people found this review helpful
Sound: Now most people know Trivium for their awesome guitar playing skills, heart pounding drumming and most of all, the screaming vocals. On this new CD entitled The Crusade (representing their journey to conquer the world) the kickass drums and guitar remain. However, the largest difference between The Crusade and Ascendancy or Ember to Inferno is without a doubt the vocals. The music on The Crusade is improved quite a bit from Ascendancy and Ember To Inferno. The technicality of the guitars has taken a step up (yes, it is possible) and still manage to sound awesome. Matt and Corey have incorporated a lot more sweep picking into their solos although there seems to be a distinct lack of harmonised solos. Travis Smith has cooled down a bit on his insane use of the double bass, he is now writing drum tracks which don't just follow the guitars, but instead keep a better rhythmn. You can actually hear Paulo Gregoletto's bass playing on this album, and he is a half decent bass player. The production quality and mixing of this album is very good. // 9
Lyrics and Singing: The lyrics on this album aren't as good as Ascendancy's, they are more of a story being told. If you have heard Trivium's cover of Master Of Puppets or seen them live recently then you will know what the new vocals are like. It's a kind of heavy singing, much more like mainstream metal (oxymoron). For most people, it's a love or hate decision about Matt Heafy's new vocals. I personally like them (although not as much as I liked his screams) but my one pet peeve is that he now sings in the heavy style on all their songs when he plays live. Pull Harder On The Strings Of Your Martyr just doesn't work if you don't scream it. // 8
Impression: So in conclusion, a pretty good album although not quite up to par with Ascendancy in my opinion. For fans of: Trivium, Metallica, Iron Maiden, Megadeth. // 8
The Crusade
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METSOAD, on october 12, 2006 0 of 1 people found this review helpful
Sound: Wow, if Ascendancey pointed to it then this has nailed it. Trivium are slowly but surley becoming the best band of the this decade. This, their "make or break" third studio album has blown anything else that they band has done to date, even their cover of "Master of Puppets" completly out of the water. The guitar work of Matt Heafy and Corey Belieau is simply mind blowing. Paulo has learnt how to be an excellent bass player and is one of the best around. Travis Smith is one of the consumate Metal Drummers with amazing footwork and brillaint fiils. The all conquering technical ability is not only astounding for a person of any age, but the fact they don't actully show off the virtuoso talents in a vulgar like other bands thier age such as Avenged Sevenfold. // 10
Lyrics and Singing: Well it's a massive step up from the sometimes unfiiting although generally great lyrics of Ascendancy. The lyrics follow a general theme of defiance and almost punk style anti-authourity which is becoming a more common feature of metal music these days and it is a good sign. A sign Trivium know how to write good music based around similar ideas. Matt Heafy's vocals are excellent, they made most screaming singers sound average with Ascendancy and now he is proving that is singing voices is absolutly brillaint and fits in perfectly with the fast paced metal that Trivium plays so well. // 10
Impression: Ignition is ferciously heavy and fast, thrash in its purest form but the acoustic guitar parts are also amazing and the lyrics are totally brilliant, it is a massive step up from their previous work which was already amazing. Detonation is simply ridiculous, despite the fact the song appears to have no structure it is fast, heavy, technically excellent and has 3 amazing guitar solos. Also one mean scream about halfway through the song. Entrance of the Conflagiration is Metallica worship in it's purist form. The solos are amazing, the riffs are "Creeping Death" like and the lyrics are dark, depressing and anti-religion. One of the albums highllights. Anthem is not the best song on the album but what it does have in it's favour is a sparkling chorus riff and an amazing guitar harmony. Unrepentant sounds like "Through the Never" from The Black Album at the beginning but goes into another bit of amazing thrash metal with excllent vocal harmonies. And Sadness Will Sear has an amazing opening riff and creepy vocals in the verse, it could be a single at a push but could be just about too heavy. Becoming the Dragon is one of the best songs on the album if you want to mosh and go nuts. It has one of those riffs that exumes heaviness and Metal from it's very veins. The guitar solo is mean and brillaint also. To The Rats is violent lyrically and quite simple in terms of playing, but in this song Matt Heafy sounds slightly different to like he does in the rest of the album and his vocal bit at the end is odd. The World Can't Tear Us Apart is quite soppy lyrically but it is a brilliant song and perhaps the unlikley highlight of the album, in my opinion the very best song. I think that they tried to do another Dying In Your Arms and came up with a Masterpeice. Tread The Floods starts a bit like a Bullet for My Valentine song then proceeds to totally kick the welsh emo/metallers backsides with more hardcore riffage and a couple of mean screams in the verses. Contempt breeds Contamination is freakishly heavy and loud. The true peak of this song is the guitar playing of the verses which is rather awesome and cool. This is the song the Megadeth fans will love the most. The Rising is upbeat like the Anthem but is better in the fact that the riffs are overall better and more accessable. The Crusade is an amzing instrumental that sounds it would fit into a Metallica album of the '80s as it is one of the best instrumental tracks I have heard since the likes of Orion. The bass guitaring in the soft section is simple incredible and a direct homage to Cliff while guitaring is a direct pointer to exactly what Trivium stand for and have done on thier previous work and this album, it is a tidal wave of metal. This is one of the albums of the decade and it has to compete with Slayer, Motorhead, Muse, Chili Peppers and most importantly their tour buddies Iron Maiden to contend with. They have proven their arrogance is justifyed and thier hard work has payed off. Trivium have helped bring Thrash Metal back, Matt Heafy is now a certifyed Metal God and his name will soon go down in Metal history books next to Tom Araya and james Hetfield as Kings of Thrash. Long live Trivium. // 10
The Crusade
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NFFC_1865, on october 12, 2006 0 of 1 people found this review helpful
Sound: This album is clearly a departure from the thrash-influenced metalcore of their previous efforts. For the most part, the band have ditched the "core" suffix whilst letting their thrash roots shine through exceptionally. Whilst I have no doubts people will dismiss this band on previous (metalcore) efforts and/or state that this band is a carbon copy of Metallica; it must be said that Metallica are no longer the same band that they were in the Kill 'Em All and Ride The Lightning eras and here Trivium continue where Hetfield & Co. left off all those years back. // 8
Lyrics and Singing: Matt Heafy has taken a different approach to lyrics on this album. They have been written in a less cryptic manner, and I have to make it clear that I am not a fan of the way he has written the lyrics on this album. Many of the lyrics appear rushed, however this could be because the band are now letting the music speak for them and the vocals are taking a back burner. There are many uninspiring lyrical passages such as "Break every bone in your face, if you mess with my life, I'll mess with your blood" (To The Rats) and "We Are Now A family" (Anthem) which leave me thinking Heafy has not spent enough time on the lyrics for this album. // 3
Impression: Many of the riffs on this album are reminiscent of Metallica's Master Of Puppets record. However, using this review for the sole purpose of comparing it to Master Of Puppets would be doing a good album a major injustice. Each song incorpoates elements which let you know this is still Trivium. The first song, Ignition, has an emotional chorus similar to that of Like Light To The Flies from Acendancy. The second song, Detonation, starts of like early Metallica. However after about 2 minutes the dissonance makes way for pure melody and Corey Beaulieu, who many people have previously viewed as the only thing making this band slightly listenable, takes you on a journey of epic proportions with some beautiful sweep passages even more advanced than the guitarwork of previous efforts. This song contains a short, screaming breakdown; however it seems to be used more tastefully to compliment the mood of the song and Matt is no longer screaming in one note throughout an entire song and using the tried and tested formula of screamed verse, sung chorus. Before the release of this album Trivium had begun distributing their video for Anthem (We Are The Fire). This song was certainly different to what everyone expected. This is one of the songs from the album that definately cannot be viewed as thrash metal. Although it is catchy, it is a very cheesy and cliched song, with the cheddar climaxing as Matt sings "yea-aahhh" with a call and response from the crowd similar to the section in Gunshot To The Head Of Trepidation (Ascendancy). For me this is the albums low part, however when discussing the album with others it has become apparent that views on this track vary greatly.
The song I am finiding myself playing most at the moment is "This World Can't Tear Us Apart." This is certainly the most most mainstream track off the album, similar to what Dying in Your Arms was for Ascendancy. However it is still a very good melodic track with a great shredding solo. I'll be suprised if this one isn't released as a single. Other tracks of note are To The Rats and Unrepentant, to unforgivingly thrashy songs with melodic section and great guitarwork from heafy (who has improved greatly) and Beaulieu. This album is bound to get a mixed reaction from fans of Trivium, and maybe give a few open-minded music fans a new band to listen to. Most of the people that have already been listening to Trivium in the past seems to be disappointed with the departure from the old sound. But although it is different, if you are to give the album a fair chance, you will relalise that this album shines in different places to Ascendany. // 7
The Crusade
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thrashster, on october 12, 2006 0 of 1 people found this review helpful
Sound: Ill be the First to say, yes this album has an old-school thrash/metallica sound, this is becasue they are obviously influenced by Metallica a great deal. A lot of the songs are full of great riffs and intense solos. Some of my favourite songs are: Becoming The Dragon, Contempt Breeds Contamination, and We Are The Fire. This album has been made perfectly, although triviums sound has changed a great deal from Ascendancy (no screaming, although in Becoming The Dragon there's a cool screaming section). Gave them a 9 becasue although the sound is great, it's not too original. // 9
Lyrics and Singing: The lyrics on this Album are, well not great. Some songs I think have good lyrics but for the most part it sounds like they wrote all these sweet instrument parts and needed vocals for filler. This of Course does not go for every song, many have great lyrics such as: Detonation, Entrance Of The Conflagration, and Contempt Breedsa Contamination. Given a 7 because I feel the lyrics are not as good as they could of been/were on previous album. // 7
Impression: The album is Great and I can't wait for October 10th so I can actually get my hands ona copy of this amazing CD. it's one of the few cds I can listen to from beggining to end without getting bored. My favourite song is probably 'Contempt Breeds Contamination' or 'Becoming The Dragon', coinsidently these are the only 2 songs (I may be wrong) that they use 7-string guitars for, and trust me you can tell, there the two heaviest songs on the Album. If this album were lost or stolen, within about 30 minutes of me finding out, I would be on my way back from the music store listening to this awesome CD in my discman. // 10
The Crusade
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poona, on october 16, 2006 0 of 2 people found this review helpful
Sound: This is almost a complete departure from 2005's Ascendancy. The scream/sing/scream/sing structure is no longer on this album. On The Crusade, Trivium have decided to sound more like their influences (namely Metallica, Megadeth, Pantera and Iron Maiden). From beginning to end, The Crusade is a constant display of crushing riffs and fret melting solos, that much is to be expected. The main focus of this album is technical abilty, and indeed, each member Trivium is technically brilliant at playing their instruments. Guitars: in a genre like thrash metal, the guitarist is usually the one who is first to be judged. Matthew K. Heafy and Corey Beaulieu deliver solos faster than a speeding bullet. The downside of this however, is that most of the solos on this album are too long and lack melodic phrasing. The few exeptions are the last 2 solos on Detonation, Entrance of the Conflagration, Anthem, And Sadness Will Sear. Bass Guitar: Paulo Gregolleto's skills as a bass player seem to be overshadowed by the intense guitar playing. He does have on solo on the title track of the album. Paulo's playing style (and even his dress style) seems to be heavily influenced by Metallica's late bassist Cliff Burton. Drums: for me, the drums are probably the highlight of the record, and I don't even play drums. it's undeniable that Travis Smith knows his stuff, well enough that even Metallica drummer Lars Ulrich, he even stated that he "wanted to hide every time he saw Travis play" on MetalHammer magazine. Travis uses blast beats a lot of the time, but he knows how to use them, unlike many extreme metal bands who use blast beats for the sake of having drums, Travis' use of blast beats actually enhances the songs. // 9
Lyrics and Singing: The lyrical themes Matt Heafy mainly explores bigotry and discrimination, which he must have been subjected to being half Japanese/White American. These themes have lots of potential, but sadly, Heafy doesn't use it to the fullest. He doesn't seem to be bothered with clever wording, he would much rather say what he feels, and if you were Phil Anselmo from Pantera, that would be good, but when you sound so much like early Metallica, it would be much better be a bit more imagininative. There is, however, one track with good lyrics and that track is And Sadness Will Sear, these lyrics are so depressing but so true, it actually makes me feel pain for William Shepard, and not many song lyrics can actually move me. // 5
Impression: My overall impression of the Crusade is a good one. Great songs, with occasionally good lyrics. I especially appreciate Heafy's change of vocal styling, I grew tired of the metalcore scream a long while ago, and thankfully for me, he did as well. My favorite track on this album would definitely be And Sadness Will Sear, the opening riff is fantastic, the lyrics are moving, the song is consistent and the vocals are spot on. My least favorite track is, without a doubt, the instrumental track, The Crusade. It may be technically brilliant, but it's boring. The band mentioned in an interview on MetalHammer magazine that the instrumental piece would be in the style of Dream Theater, and it turned out to be that way. It was pointlessly complex, it's like trying to force 2 puzzle pieces together that don't fit. The one aspect I don't like about this album, and Trivium itself, is their blatant 'fanboyism'. The record sounds WAY too much like Metallica at some points. At the Download Festival 2006, Matt Heafy got the crowd chanting 'Metallica', and in all his interviews, it's always Metallica this Metallica that, he even wants Trivium to be the 'next Metallica'. it's good to give credit to your influences, but as long Heafy keeps the fanboyism going, Trivium will always be in the shadow of Metallica. If this record were stolen I wouldn't bother buying it again. Firstly because I already ripped the CD onto my computer. Second of all, I bought the limited addition 'First Day Cover' version which had a special black cover that was only sold on the first day of it's release, buying another one wouldn't be the same. // 8
trivium are a rubbish band, they may be able to play their instruments extremely well for their ages, but seriously.... can't you see there anourmous egos? if you can't, get your eyes tested.
actually I dont deathbyemail. I see a humble band, at least through matt heafy. I tend to remember a little interview he did with guitar world a while back, talking about how he doesn't want to be banging groupies left and right. How he wants to keep faithful to one girlfriend. That wasnt just rubbish. My current girlfriend (but not then at the time) and myself, along with a few other friends went to see Trivium in concert, afterwards we all went to get autographs and talk to the members and whatever. My girlfriend is not a bad lookin girl in the slightest and she oh so sweetly requested a small kiss from mr. heafy. he smiled and politely declined. I think that shows plenty dang good humility. Also, learn how to spell Enormous.
Its an awesome Album, I got it 2day. "The Crusade" the song is so good. And wats wrong with u if you dont like them. i havent found someone who doesn't like at least 1 song.
was dissapointed with this album, prefer their first album - it's as if they're trying to fit into a mould rather than being creative. filling the metallica void should not be the main aim of this band! we need some edgy and exciting metal and this album was a downer imo. But i guess american metal bands are going to be over publicised as trivium have been, if you find this album lacks some fire and passion listen to some bodom or metallica, that'll get your heart started again. if you like it then awesome.
I'm sorry le screamist, does the harsh reality of my comments disturb you? If so, then you mustn't take the internet so seriously. I merely kill time by seeing how touchy you world wide webbers really are - so far, you're pretty damn touchy.
Same as above after absolutely loving ascendancy, the crusade just doesnt compare, sure it has some cool thrash riffage but to me it just seems like they are trying to be metallica, for exampl listen to the intro riff to unrepentent, it is uncannily similar to metallicas through the never riff. i have the album, but i would reccomend anyone to get ascendancy rather than the crusade.
i heard that alot of the screaming and harder core metal has been taken out which is kind of disapointing. I like metallica its good stuff but I like trivium for its own sound and not for sounding more and more like metallica
My personal thoughts: Ember to Inferno, F***** great.
Asscendancy (excuse the spelling), going onto the emo side. Crusade: a change, cant neccesarily say good because i almost fell asleep during some of the songs.
So there you go.
trivium are a rubbish band, they may be able to play their instruments extremely well for their ages, but seriously.... can't you see there anourmous egos? if you can't, get your eyes tested.
i dont care what any one says i will still buy this album so i have the full collection, however i would say that they are giving in to the more conforming of metal core fans and bands alike, i would be happier if they kept the full on screaming of ascendancy as singing just isnt their thing, apart form in dying in your arms and the chorus to like light to the flys, come on.. you cant say you weren't dissappointed the first time you heard anthem??? also heafy doesnt suit long hair! ha!!!!
I also bought this cd, cause i collect. I still say this cd is not great at all, thats my opinion, not anyone elses. If anyone agrees with me, thank you.
Plus, everything is messed up, and on some of the songs, i actually think its james hetfield singing. Listen to the singing on Detonation, the first 2 minutes and you will see what i mean.
To hear the song you can go to www.trivium.org
Anthem is crap. Detonation is crap. The Crusade is the lamest instrumental track in the history of the world. The Storm is the only tolerable song on the new CD and that's just barely. Matt can't sing. Go see them live and you'll believe me. For all you people like me that loved songs like Suffocating Sight and Like Light to Flies, it sucks but those days are gone and they're never coming back. Unearth has filled the hole Trivium left behind for me.
Anthem is crap. Detonation is crap. The Crusade is the lamest instrumental track in the history of the world. The Storm is the only tolerable song on the new CD and that's just barely. Matt can't sing. Go see them live and you'll believe me. For all you people like me that loved songs like Suffocating Sight and Like Light to Flies, it sucks but those days are gone and they're never coming back. Unearth has filled the hole Trivium left behind for me.
Anthem is crap. Detonation is crap. The Crusade is the lamest instrumental track in the history of the world. The Storm is the only tolerable song on the new CD and that's just barely. Matt can't sing. Go see them live and you'll believe me. For all you people like me that loved songs like Suffocating Sight and Like Light to Flies, it sucks but those days are gone and they're never coming back. Unearth has filled the hole Trivium left behind for me.
Ascendancy was great. The Crusade isn't. Nowadays they're all about becoming "the next Metallica" or some freaking rock/trash metal gods or whatever. Ascendancy was all about the music. The Crusade isn't. It's about repeating stuff that has already been done by the likes of Metallica and Slayer. Heafys new Hetfield singing voice is just a poor imitation of his idols. Am I the only one that has noticed the similarity between the Crusade and Orion? Tread the floods and Ignition, two songs I can recommend. Compared to Ascendancy 12. But the guys are young. I hope they still are able to find themselves (not Metallica) musically and make another album as massive as Ascendancy was. Thank you.
I think all three albums they have done are good in heir own ways. The Crusade is a successful attempt to create a 80's thrash record in the modern day. Yes, some may say it sounds just like Metallica, but Trivium of coarse brings something of their own to thrash. The last time I heard sweep picking this intense on a thrash record was probably on Testament's Practice What You Preach. Not sayin that Matt and Corey are better than the great Alex Skolnick however but they are very good guitar players. Also, I love the big choruses as in "The Rising", it must be great at a live show. Good work guys, I hope other bands follow you and bring back the great metal of the 80's and 90's
Anthem is crap. Detonation is crap. The Crusade is the lamest instrumental track in the history of the world. The Storm is the only tolerable song on the new CD and that's just barely. Matt can't sing. Go see them live and you'll believe me. For all you people like me that loved songs like Suffocating Sight and Like Light to Flies, it sucks but those days are gone and they're never coming back. Unearth has filled the hole Trivium left behind for me.
great album, really like it, i think theres a lot of people who dont like them because they sound "a bit" like metallica and pantera. whats rong with having influence. they albums great. i just think overall theyre not sure what they want to sound like. its on teh same level as ascendacy but completley different. i think trivium have a long way to go though, thyeve got many more albums left in them and were yet to see the best.
unless they decide to imitate metallica's downful aswell
I really dont like this album,detonation is possibly the worst "metal" song i have ever heard, I hate the way matt the tw*t tries to be james hetfield especially during the anthem "wooo woo....yeah hair!!!!" part.I do like parts of "entrance" and "tread the floods" but that wont save this album, the song "the crusade" is a glorified jam session how dare they compare it to orion!!!.Theres no doubt that technically they are good musicians but wats the point in being able to shred/sweep if you cant write a half decent riff?
well thats just wat i think
Anthem is crap. Detonation is crap. The Crusade is the lamest instrumental track in the history of the world. The Storm is the only tolerable song on the new CD and that's just barely. Matt can't sing. Go see them live and you'll believe me. For all you people like me that loved songs like Suffocating Sight and Like Light to Flies, it sucks but those days are gone and they're never coming back. Unearth has filled the hole Trivium left behind for me.
The storm was on Ember wat r u talking about
Ok, First and Foremost if your gonna comment atleast try to be intelligent and know your facts, thank you \m/ jamie \m/ for correcting thirdeyepried and his inability to know anything about Trivium. Does anyone else realize that if a band doesn't change or evolve, the band will burn itself out and go no where. Trivium did the smartest thing they could, wrote what felt right at the time, and not what the "screamo monkey's" wanted to hear. Classic Album: YES in a few years people will look back at the Crusade and say that is Trivium at their sharpest. I work at McDonald's and I listen to my iPod everyday while at work and all ive had on here for the past 2 days has been the Crusade, I am really soaking it in and loving everything about this album. So to you monkeys who think that the Crusade is trash, I say why don't you write better, more elaborate music and make it famous??? Well I guess that means you can't, oh Well.....TRIVIUM ROX \M/ \M/---Anyone seeing them at the Metro in Chicago SEE YOU THERE!
This album is decent. I miss old Trivium, but new Trivium isn't really bad. Being rushed to crank out this album sucks. The only song on the whole album I don't care for is Becoming The Dragon...the only what the **** moment on this CD
I have love Trivium since i saw them with Fear Factory in 2003. They always seemed to come to the Louisville area and would always walk around the flloor with the kids at the concert. I have spoken to Matt many times and every time he is as nice as can be. This is a band that is doing what they want and bringing back what music should be.
i'm glad they're not growling as much as they used to on their other albums. Their new album is pretty good and who cares if they're the 'new metallica'or whatever. They're bringing back good music and thats the important thing.
This album is the greatest thing in metal since MOP!!!!!
It would be very easy to make that arguement. This album is easily Trivium's best work to date and shows me that there aren't many bands that can keep up this awesome quality of work.
This album is decent. I miss old Trivium, but new Trivium isn't really bad. Being rushed to crank out this album sucks. The only song on the whole album I don't care for is Becoming The Dragon...the only what the **** moment on this CD[/quote]
ha ha ha u my friend suck sooooo bad.....o...god...sos....becoming the dragon was the only decent song on the album..ha..ha im dissapointed by the crusade...ascendancy was awesum tho.
Matt also said in Total Guitar Magazine last January "No one uses it anymore so we thought we would try and be different"-and needless to say, the tuning seems a bit more, ah, "metal." Oh and brilliant cover artwork as well.
yeah, doing something to be 'metal' isnt why people hate trivium at all...
i like Ascendancy, but the songs i heard off this werent anything to cream your pants about. they ought to just stop trying to be 'metal' and just do what they do best, write metalcore songs, since their a metalcore band. no way around it.
I think they are a perfect combination of Metallica (90's) and Iron Maiden !! I really like the sound of Trivium I live in Belgium and according to make they broke through in the whole world
Matt also said in Total Guitar Magazine last January "No one uses it anymore so we thought we would try and be different"-and needless to say, the tuning seems a bit more, ah, "metal." Oh and brilliant cover artwork as well.
yeah, doing something to be 'metal' isnt why people hate trivium at all...
i like Ascendancy, but the songs i heard off this werent anything to cream your pants about. they ought to just stop trying to be 'metal' and just do what they do best, write metalcore songs, since their a metalcore band. no way around it.
OMG, Trivium were never "metalcore" they ARE thrash. Its idiots like you who label them as "metalcore".
TRIVIUM FOREVER
actually I dont deathbyemail. I see a humble band, at least through matt heafy. I tend to remember a little interview he did with guitar world a while back, talking about how he doesn't want to be banging groupies left and right. How he wants to keep faithful to one girlfriend. That wasnt just rubbish. My current girlfriend (but not then at the time) and myself, along with a few other friends went to see Trivium in concert, afterwards we all went to get autographs and talk to the members and whatever. My girlfriend is not a bad lookin girl in the slightest and she oh so sweetly requested a small kiss from mr. heafy. he smiled and politely declined. I think that shows plenty dang good humility. Also, learn how to spell Enormous.
Deathbyemail, trivium is an awesome band and what he said explains not only that they are not ego tistical but shows that they make music for the love of it .. not the money fame or fortune but for the love of making music. Which alot of players start off as but get consumed by the fame fortune and numerous groupies.
I'm gonna be a huge dickhead and get back at every metal fan insulting bands that don't have a thousand notes a second, and say TRIVIUM ARE SHIT. Lol, not really, but I don't like them. A friend played one of their new songs from this album and they do sound terribly like Metallica. Which is rather annoying for them getting credit by copying from a band I enjoy when there a band I do not.
Man, I've seen this band live, opening for Iced Earth, and I thought they sucked big time. However, I've recently heard the new songs on Sirius radio, and I will admit they're not bad. I will probably pick this up just to check it out since they have a different sound.
Its an awesome Album, I got it 2day. "The Crusade" the song is so good. And wats wrong with u if you dont like them. i havent found someone who doesn't like at least 1 song.
you've found me. i cant make it through a whole song off the crusade without thinking. 'what utter crap' and skipping it.
jesus, dont be all tough with a keyboard - if you dont like the band - fine - everyone has an opinion
if you dont like the new album - trivium didnt say you have to listen to it
if you like the band and new album, just say it
people arent wrong - their opinions just differ, its human life.
jesus, dont be all tough with a keyboard - if you dont like the band - fine - everyone has an opinion
if you dont like the new album - trivium didnt say you have to listen to it
if you like the band and new album, just say it
people arent wrong - their opinions just differ, its human life.
i completely agree but i would like to add if you dont like trivium - why the **** are you here?
This album is the greatest thing in metal since MOP!!!!!
agreed
Haahaha, wow, so you think it is better than Dime and Pantera. Think before you speak!
I have seriously thought this through!! and Im still with the crusade!! I was never much of a pantera fan as I was to Metallica and maybe thats why I love this album??? Im more about melody and metallica and maiden are the kings of it (not sayin pantera never had it) This album is just simply brilliant!!!
Guitarist1148, I can't say much for the guy you responded to, but actually, I -do- like Trivium more than Pantera. Pantera was undoubtably a great band, but quite frankly I felt the only thing going for them was Dimebag Darrel, whom in my very humble opinion, was overrated. Not too overrated, but people make him look like a Saint.
And for the record, I'm totally not seeing where this "Heafy sings just like Hetfield" thing is coming from. I hear no resemblence, and I'm a die-hard Metallica fan.
I really liked Trivium untill they pulled out this album..they're taking "The Next Metallica" too seriously in my opinion.
This album isn't horrible, it isn't Trivium. It's a 80's thrash rip off. Like I said its not a bad album but I think they're trying to hard to impress the media or something.
HOLY CRAP! trivium doesnt scream! that must mean they are trying to be metallica!
Try pulling your head out of your asses and just listening to them as they are. If thats what they want to do musically, thats what they do. I dont think its as good as their previous stuff in general, although some songs do a good job. But don't come in thinking "THIS BAND SUCKS BECAUSE THEY SOUND KIND OF LIKE METAlLICA BUT ARENT THEM AND ARENT AS GOOD LOL" take them for what they are. Trivium.
I loved Acendancy, but this one was a little bit of a disapointment. I dunno, many of the songs seemed really monotonous. The melodies just didn't suit my ears well. Although, I do like "Unrepentant" and "Contempt Breeds Contamination", simpley because of the story-like lyrics.
It just seems to be lacking a little something. Trivium almost had it, they were so close, it's just missing that little something to push it right over the edge.
well i think it has some really great tracks. but Heafy's lyrics actually do SUCK. now that we can hear what he's saying, most will realize that he doesn't know how to compose a song. Not to mention, he's writing about things that happened in the nineties - thus making his lyrics outdated and irrelevant. and his political songs that concern the world's current state ring hollow when he generalizes with the words "gun," or "society" or "policy" or anything of that sort. i think some of the musical composition is also a bit misguided - they might have been too centered on changing their sound and making a thrash album, but most of the songs just don't work as songs. they're all over the place and fall through. and the band's overall self-righteous attitude i think made them forget that to write a great thrash album, the songs have to kick ass. The Crusade does not kick ass.
I ****in luv trivium i dont care what people say about this album i know it sounds nothing like ascendancy but at least there going in a new direction instead of the same old shit, Trivium is the best band out there today or at least in my opinion, if you dont like trivium then dont post shit about them it only shows how bad Your taste in muisc is
oh ya i fogot to say this soo i completely agree with sloofus the members of trivium and not conceited in anyway at all you are obvisouly not a fan or know shit about them if you actually think there dicks because there very talented, and o ya sloofus u lucky bastard how long did u have to wait to get them to autograph shit?
For those who keep comparing Trivium to Metallica. STOP. There were/is other thrash metal bands besides metallica that you can compare them too. But seriously stop comparing. Trivium does a more melodic version of thrash than metallica. Metallica makes catchy songs.
this album and ascendancy were wayyy different they both kick ass and im happy they didnt do ascendancy again its amazing to how much these guys have evolved since ember to inferno. This album was great and it shows theyve matured out of the whole metalcore stuff
This album is pretty good, but it just doesn't really sound like Trivium anymore. Like, shit. I listened to Trivium for the harsh screaming. If I want to listen to Metallica, I'll listen to Metallica. I like the CD, but Ascendancy was better in my books.
I think that 'Anthem' sound just like iron maiden!
alright, have you ever listened to an Iron Maiden song? at no time would i ever think that it sounds even remotely like Iron Maiden. oh, and the song sucks. iron Maiden is one of the best metal bands of all time. it's a disgrace to compare the two.
Guitarist1148, I can't say much for the guy you responded to, but actually, I -do- like Trivium more than Pantera. Pantera was undoubtably a great band, but quite frankly I felt the only thing going for them was Dimebag Darrel, whom in my very humble opinion, was overrated. Not too overrated, but people make him look like a Saint.
And for the record, I'm totally not seeing where this "Heafy sings just like Hetfield" thing is coming from. I hear no resemblence, and I'm a die-hard Metallica fan.
Dude, that's a matter of opinion, but Pantera are ****ing gods. no ****ing 19 year old kids can come out and be better than Pantera. Dime will kick Matt and Corey's ass any day. Phil is one of the best singers dude. don't think that he can't still sing dude, he's fully capable. Vinnie Paul is a Legendary drummer in the metal world and will stay a metal god. Pantera was a band full of musical geniouses.
I will admit, i do like the Crusade, but i will take a Pantera album any day, no question, without hesitation.
fluffylump2 : Not to mention, he's writing about things that happened in the nineties - thus making his lyrics outdated and irrelevant. and his political songs that concern the world's current state ring hollow when he generalizes with the words "gun," or "society" or "policy" or anything of that sort.
I believe slayer released "seasons in the abyss" in 1990 - and dead skin mask was based on ed geins crimes in and around the 1950's yes? And their new album "christ illusion" has a song about the world trade center from terrorists views... so how you can say that is beyond me.
I love this new album, i've always loved thrash like metallica, megadeth, slayer and kreator. (you might have guessed) and this album brings trivium in line with them for me.
That's my opinion - they are great. Nothings gonna change that.
And I honestly can't see the similarity between Matt Heafy and James Hetfield... bit of a gap there...
well, I love trivium, they are awesome. They are very talented people that can write some ****in awesome music, but no one should have ever told them that they were destined to be the next Metallica, because now it seems as though they are out to sound like Metallica, instead of making the music that makes them awesome, I was watching the video to Entrance Of The Conflagration the other night on Fuse, and it sounded like Matt was trying to sound exactly like James Hetfield. But nonetheless, I will not hate on Trivium, and I will go buy this Cd tomorrow, cuz i didn't even know when it was coming out, but now that I do, I'll go pick it up.
Ok, here is the jist of it. Trivium isnt trying to become the next Metallica- by that I mean MKH cant help it if he sounds like James and to be honest, I think he pulls it off greatly. Ember was sweet. Ascendancy was mind-blowing. The Crusade is just the next chapter for Trivium, and personally I think it is the best album yet. I think its really nice to see a metal band not follow the new tradition of blistering leads, screaming/growling/shreiking, and all that stuff- granted I love that also haha, but I mean they're kinda takin it back to the roots. The vocals are amazing- period. As far as songwriting goes- It was nice to see Paolo and Cory contribute somthing to the plate. Hopefully next album we'll see Travis add somthing in.
If I were to rate it, it would be and easy 10/10- but I wouldnt say its the best album scince MOP.
I like this album because it has no screaming, but I think they should have had atleast half of the tracks with screaming. Why? Simply because the fans they got now wanted screaming, and by not screaming it's almost like they're selling out to the crowd that likes the screaming, and trying to appeal to the people who ridiculed them. Half clean voice, and half screaming would've been cool. Maybe next album though. IMO
jees that dude who reviewed each song is a hypocrit really
i mean "probably ther best album ever and destined to set them as the best metal act etc." then he goes and ris at every single song
dude seriously the crusade is the best metal album of the twetny first century and prob will stand like metallicas master of puppets
and bein trivium they will jus get better and better
so id like to say that all the bad reviews of the album r bullshit
great album full stope
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great album, really like it, i think theres a lot of people who dont like them because they sound "a bit" like metallica and pantera. whats rong with having influence. they albums great. i just think overall theyre not sure what they want to sound like. its on teh same level as ascendacy but completley different. i think trivium have a long way to go though, thyeve got many more albums left in them and were yet to see the best.
unless they decide to imitate metallica's downful aswell
i agree with everything this guy said. except this album being on the same level as ascendancy cos i haven't heard the crusade yet. but i'm sure it will be awesome cos ascendancy is a mad album.. departure is my fave song on ascendancy along with gunshot to the head of trepidation, light to the flies, and suffocating sight.
trivium rock. and i don't see whats wrong with them trying to be metallica.. hell i'm 17 and i'd giv anything to be my favourite band and if i had a record contract i'd do just that! like not try and immitate (does immitate have two m's?) them exactly but in the same genre as them at least. but i rekon trivium are doin good for their age. and the name Trivium is a very kickass band name
Ok, First and Foremost if your gonna comment atleast try to be intelligent and know your facts, thank you \m/ jamie \m/ for correcting thirdeyepried and his inability to know anything about Trivium. Does anyone else realize that if a band doesn't change or evolve, the band will burn itself out and go no where. Trivium did the smartest thing they could, wrote what felt right at the time, and not what the "screamo monkey's" wanted to hear. Classic Album: YES in a few years people will look back at the Crusade and say that is Trivium at their sharpest. I work at McDonald's and I listen to my iPod everyday while at work and all ive had on here for the past 2 days has been the Crusade, I am really soaking it in and loving everything about this album. So to you monkeys who think that the Crusade is trash, I say why don't you write better, more elaborate music and make it famous??? Well I guess that means you can't, oh Well.....TRIVIUM ROX \M/ \M/---Anyone seeing them at the Metro in Chicago SEE YOU THERE!
I'm sorry le screamist, does the harsh reality of my comments disturb you? If so, then you mustn't take the internet so seriously. I merely kill time by seeing how touchy you world wide webbers really are - so far, you're pretty damn touchy.
Well I'm more than happy to see that we won't see anymore metalcore fans in our next Trivium shows... I just don't get why people starts to hate bands as soon as they do something that could take them to a higher level of popularity on the whole music scene (not only metal). By the way LOVE The Crusade! Almost as good as Master Of Puppets, but definitely the best since MOP!
I like this album because it has no screaming, but I think they should have had atleast half of the tracks with screaming.
i really miss the clean chorus singing that heafy did on ascendancy along with (maybe more than) his screaming...wish there was at least a few tracks with the scream-sing metalcore style to them...this album, though damn good, seems to not have the catchiness that ascendancy's songs had, whether it be guitar parts or singing. Definently different sound and thrashy feel to it, i give em props for tryin somethin different, even though not as good imo
can people stop comparing trivium to metallica? yes the vocal styles r similar but there is noway u could confuse the two vocalists...not once in the album did i feel as if i was listening to metallica
oh ya i fogot to say this soo i completely agree with sloofus the members of trivium and not conceited in anyway at all you are obvisouly not a fan or know shit about them if you actually think there dicks because there very talented, and o ya sloofus u lucky bastard how long did u have to wait to get them to autograph shit?
They were opening for another band. Immediately after they got offstage they were behind the bar, signing. I bought Ascendency and got the lyrics sheet signed by all of 'em.
What is wrong with you people? This album sucks. Big time. Does being "the next Metallica" include "sounding exactly the same as Metallica"? Yes, I know they're not exactly the same. But man. , compared to ascendancy this album is crap.
This album is, in technique and detail, much better than Ascendancy. Trivium are really a growing band, and this does not sound exactly like Metallica.. The first band that flicked my mind when I heard the Album was Slayer, Megadeth and Pantera.. And most of all Trivium!! It rocks
Matt also said in Total Guitar Magazine last January "No one uses it anymore so we thought we would try and be different"-and needless to say, the tuning seems a bit more, ah, "metal." Oh and brilliant cover artwork as well.
yeah, doing something to be 'metal' isnt why people hate trivium at all...
i like Ascendancy, but the songs i heard off this werent anything to cream your pants about. they ought to just stop trying to be 'metal' and just do what they do best, write metalcore songs, since their a metalcore band. no way around it.
OMG, Trivium were never "metalcore" they ARE thrash. Its idiots like you who label them as "metalcore".
TRIVIUM FOREVER
no. ok, just no. Destruction is thrash. slayer is thrash. exodus is thrash. demiricous is thrash. sodom, testament, megadeth and overkill are thrash.
trivium isnt thrash. theyre metalcore. i dont think its a bad thing, i like quite a few metalcore bands, like trivium, lamb of god, shadows fall, as i lay dying and the black dahlia murder. all of which are metalcore , not real metal. dont argue, im right your wrong, end of story.
First of all, this albums kicks ass and I love it. I love all kinds of metal and to me this falls into that category. WTF is "metalcore" anyway. I love the sound on the album (guitars are played very well), the songs are catchy, and I personally like the singing because I think that too much screaming takes away from the musical aspect. But, with all that said, people need to quit bitching and griping just to be bitching and griping. More constructive and useful information could be put on these pages. Trivium is an excellent band and they will only get better with time.
^your kidding, right? look up Hate Eternal, Behemoth, Emperor and Deicide, and say lamb of god are death/black.
if you are...well, still look up those bands, cuz they own lamb of god. =]
my other post was meant for Nuums. not Satchpwnnoobs.
anyway, metalcore is a form of metal. i never said it was bad, its just not metal, least of all thrash. . im only saying this because when true metalheads like myself are having a conversation and metal noobs think trivium is the 'm0st br00tal trash metal EVAR' gets pretty damn annoying pretty damn quick.
metalcore is what you get when you mix metal with hardcore. usually (but not always) aggressive verses with screamed vocals, then uptempo melodic sung choruses. forive me if im wrong, but emeber to inferno and ascendancy were like that, right? even if the crusade is not, 1/3 albums isnt gonna make the band thrash. theyre metalcore, end of f[b] [/b]uckin' story.
Ok I admit the instruments were good, but they lack originality alot more than on ascendancy, and second of all Matt Heafy's hardcore screaming and his mix of alittle harmonizing is waht got me into Trivium, but they cut down on the hardcore screaming alot, I'm a big fan of Lamb of God and Ascendancy was in the same league as probably Sacrament, but I think crusade is a step down from as hardcore as they were.
Matt also said in Total Guitar Magazine last January "No one uses it anymore so we thought we would try and be different"-and needless to say, the tuning seems a bit more, ah, "metal." Oh and brilliant cover artwork as well.
yeah, doing something to be 'metal' isnt why people hate trivium at all...
i like Ascendancy, but the songs i heard off this werent anything to cream your pants about. they ought to just stop trying to be 'metal' and just do what they do best, write metalcore songs, since their a metalcore band. no way around it.
OMG, Trivium were never "metalcore" they ARE thrash. Its idiots like you who label them as "metalcore".
TRIVIUM FOREVER
no. ok, just no. Destruction is thrash. slayer is thrash. exodus is thrash. demiricous is thrash. sodom, testament, megadeth and overkill are thrash.
trivium isnt thrash. theyre metalcore. i dont think its a bad thing, i like quite a few metalcore bands, like trivium, lamb of god, shadows fall, as i lay dying and the black dahlia murder. all of which are metalcore, not real metal. dont argue, im right your wrong, end of story.
That was quite a stupid thing to say. Clearly not all megadeth's albums are thrash metal. Look at risk? is it thrash? or even the system has failed its not thrash. Triviums last two albums were metalcore, this album is absolutely not. It has barely any metalcore elements at ALL. all the verses are sang, not screamed. And it doesnt have chugga chugga breakdowns and whiney screaming choruses. Technically they are a thrash band now. There latest release was thrash/ rock, so they are currently thrash/ rock. Dont be ****ing stupid. If your theory works that way, then pantera were hair metal when cowboys from hell was released.
Gopher636 wrote:
my other post was meant for Nuums. not Satchpwnnoobs.
anyway, metalcore is a form of metal. i never said it was bad, its just not metal, least of all thrash.. im only saying this because when true metalheads like myself are having a conversation and metal noobs think trivium is the 'm0st br00tal trash metal EVAR' gets pretty damn annoying pretty damn quick.
metalcore is what you get when you mix metal with hardcore. usually(but not always) aggressive verses with screamed vocals, then uptempo melodic sung choruses. forive me if im wrong, but emeber to inferno and ascendancy were like that, right? even if the crusade is not, 1/3 albums isnt gonna make the band thrash. theyre metalcore, end of ****in' story.
your quite stupid. there is no harcore elements to the album, all the riffs are metal or rock.
I've heard a few tracks and...I'm probably not going to bother buying it. There's nothing BAD as such...it's just too....uninteresting for me for some reason.
Oh well, plenty more fish in the sea
Everyone just needs to get a life and accept that Trivium is just awesome. sure the crusade isnt as good as ascendency but we all know that. you dont have to point it out.
and is it me or does "to the rats" kinda sound slayerish.[/i]
i completely agree but i would like to add if you dont like trivium - why the **** are you here?
entertainment, you guys are so immature, but at the same time very funny, gettin so bent out of shape over a band changing their sound and someone saying they suck..big whoop, bands do it everyday...trivium are cool, nothing great though
Fuck all of these labels. If you look up any genre of metal or rock in most stores they will be under Pop/Rock. So I gonna label Trivium, Slayer, Cannibal Corpse, all Pop/Rock. I know that some stores aren't like that though. All bands are Pop/Rock from now on, end of story. No agruements please.
great album, really like it, i think theres a lot of people who dont like them because they sound "a bit" like metallica and pantera. whats rong with having influence. they albums great. i just think overall theyre not sure what they want to sound like. its on teh same level as ascendacy but completley different. i think trivium have a long way to go though, thyeve got many more albums left in them and were yet to see the best.
unless they decide to imitate metallica's downful aswell
i agree with everything this guy said. except this album being on the same level as ascendancy cos i haven't heard the crusade yet. but i'm sure it will be awesome cos ascendancy is a mad album.. departure is my fave song on ascendancy along with gunshot to the head of trepidation, light to the flies, and suffocating sight.
trivium rock. and i don't see whats wrong with them trying to be metallica.. hell i'm 17 and i'd giv anything to be my favourite band and if i had a record contract i'd do just that! like not try and immitate (does immitate have two m's?) them exactly but in the same genre as them at least. but i rekon trivium are doin good for their age. and the name Trivium is a very kickass band name
that is all.
i completely agree with everyhting you say as well. and yaeh oops immitate does have too M's.
yeh soz i just sed that about metallica coz everyone does, the ysound nothing like metallica personally, different style riffs and the singings different, and yes trivium has an awesomename, but not as awesome as my band "hyperion", well okay maybe but still eh
Simple enough, I can't stand it. I absolutely hate it. One of the worst CD's I've ever bought, and I absolutely love Ascendancy. But 'The Crusade', in my opinion is diabolical.
Dreadful. Sorry, I didn't feel like being polite about it, ones opinion is ones opinion.
actually I dont deathbyemail. I see a humble band, at least through matt heafy. I tend to remember a little interview he did with guitar world a while back, talking about how he doesn't want to be banging groupies left and right. How he wants to keep faithful to one girlfriend. That wasnt just rubbish. My current girlfriend (but not then at the time) and myself, along with a few other friends went to see Trivium in concert, afterwards we all went to get autographs and talk to the members and whatever. My girlfriend is not a bad lookin girl in the slightest and she oh so sweetly requested a small kiss from mr. heafy. he smiled and politely declined. I think that shows plenty dang good humility. Also, learn how to spell Enormous.
The question is....when did you meet them? I met them twice, once at ozzfest and once on the In Flames tour. They were humble and awesome back then on the Ascendancy circuit. Things have changed since then. Look at their interviews then and compare them to the interviews now. They have grown enormous ego's since then. I truly did love the first three albums. Yes...there were three, demo album included (even though only having three songs not released on Ember.) But, humble now...they are not. In my honest opinion, they've changed so much, they just arent trivium anymore. They sound nothing like what they created. And whats the point of being a great musician (which i will not deny that they still are) if your just going to write songs that sound like everybody else. Even look at the great reviews they got, they were still compared to like ten older bands. All in all, trivium is dead. Who this new band is, i dont know. Although there are some songs that are catchy, i already bought all the classic greatest hits albums. I'll stick with my downloaded copy.
I like this album because it has no screaming, but I think they should have had atleast half of the tracks with screaming. Why? Simply because the fans they got now wanted screaming, and by not screaming it's almost like they're selling out to the crowd that likes the screaming, and trying to appeal to the people who ridiculed them. Half clean voice, and half screaming would've been cool. Maybe next album though. IMO
it's not up to what the fans want. by screaming just for the fans they would be selling themselves out. doing something just because of what other people want is selling yourself short.
Fuck all of these labels. If you look up any genre of metal or rock in most stores they will be under Pop/Rock. So I gonna label Trivium, Slayer, Cannibal Corpse, all Pop/Rock. I know that some stores aren't like that though. All bands are Pop/Rock from now on, end of story. No agruements please.
that's cuz their would be hundreds of categories in every store and it would be too much of a pain in the ass to put each genre in their own section.
Matt also said in Total Guitar Magazine last January "No one uses it anymore so we thought we would try and be different"-and needless to say, the tuning seems a bit more, ah, "metal." Oh and brilliant cover artwork as well.
yeah, doing something to be 'metal' isnt why people hate trivium at all...
i like Ascendancy, but the songs i heard off this werent anything to cream your pants about. they ought to just stop trying to be 'metal' and just do what they do best, write metalcore songs, since their a metalcore band. no way around it.
OMG, Trivium were never "metalcore" they ARE thrash. Its idiots like you who label them as "metalcore".
TRIVIUM FOREVER
no. ok, just no. Destruction is thrash. slayer is thrash. exodus is thrash. demiricous is thrash. sodom, testament, megadeth and overkill are thrash.
trivium isnt thrash. theyre metalcore. i dont think its a bad thing, i like quite a few metalcore bands, like trivium, lamb of god, shadows fall, as i lay dying and the black dahlia murder. all of which are metalcore, not real metal. dont argue, im right your wrong, end of story.
alright. you may have had a point on a few of the bands, but you took it too far. just because you made a valid point, it does not make you an expert. you are not right and he is not wrong. music is just like any other artform, it's open to an infinant amount of peoples perceptions. congratulations on sounding like a jackass to potentially everybody in the world. i hope you feel like a big person.
Anthem is crap. Detonation is crap. The Crusade is the lamest instrumental track in the history of the world. The Storm is the only tolerable song on the new CD and that's just barely. Matt can't sing. Go see them live and you'll believe me. For all you people like me that loved songs like Suffocating Sight and Like Light to Flies, it sucks but those days are gone and they're never coming back. Unearth has filled the hole Trivium left behind for me.
dude the storm was on their demo, ha dumb ass...crusade's killer!
well the first time i commented on here i can of tore apart the album. but upon second listening, i love it. it's great. except "This World Can't Tear Us Apart" because it's sappy, corny, predictable and has the exact same lead line as "Dying in Your Arms." Which is interesting because "TWCTUA" was supposed to be the same idea. so... mission accomplished. but i do not at all think they sound anything like Metallica? if you listen to the guitar, bass, vocals, drums, anything. No resemblence to Metallica. great album, i'm excited to be back on the Trivium bandwagon. no pun intended!
to all the people who think that the band has ego problems id like to tell you guys this.my friends went to see these guys last week.(i didn't get to go)they hung around after the show and got autographs/talked with the band members.they got matt to call me.he asked "why the **** aren't you here at the show" i thought that was pretty cool of him.
Whoever doesn't like the crusade (instrumental) and says it sounds like orion is crazy. First it sounds nothing like orion, and the songs just great. Also to the people calling them metalcore, explain why because you give no reasons, but sure like to accuse.
deathbyemail :
trivium are a rubbish band, they may be able to play their instruments extremely well for their ages, but seriously.... can't you see there anourmous egos? if you can't, get your eyes tested.
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Allow me to let you in on a little secret. Noone likew a whiny spammer, especially not a british one. Trivium has their faults, just like anyone, but your complaining is better spent on your leather bound he-bitch you keep locked in your basement. Believe me when I say that not one person here wants to hear your moaning about the egos of men you have never met. Besides, if we wanted your shit we would just squeeze your head.
trivium are currently one of the very talented band..the previos album was totally amazed me but the latest one quite disappointing...looks like they really wanna be the next metallica..but if we put that issue a side...this album is damn good...all the guitar works, bass and blasting drums...they know how to keep their fans..hell yeah
recently i realised how bad trivium were live, Matt cant sing but still they made good albums even if more than half of it was electronics not them. but ow they release something u can really rmember them by SHIT. they show no creative ness its all the same dribble and im personally looking forward to kiking the shit out of matt heafy at maiden trivium!
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Allow me to let you in on a little secret. Noone likew a whiny spammer, especially not a british one. Trivium has their faults, just like anyone, but your complaining is better spent on your leather bound he-bitch you keep locked in your basement. Believe me when I say that not one person here wants to hear your moaning about the egos of men you have never met. Besides, if we wanted your shit we would just squeeze your head.
Dude whether you notice it or not, trivium do have big egos... read some of their interviews. They think they are the next the metallica, they're trying to sound like metallica literally (if you can't notice how Matt's new singing style is such a copy of James Hetfield you need new ears)
As for The Crusade: generic and cheesy riffs, generic drums, dreadful lyrics, songs don't even flow well as they switch from Metallica rip-off sound to their old style (which by the way sounds quite different) and expect it to be a seemless transition. Very generic and uninspired guitar solos and very little use of guitar harmonies that had such a great effect on Ascendancy.
I liked Matt's singing on Ascendancy, thought it was great on Roadrunner United, but now he's gone backwards. No definition in his clean singing and his Hetfield imitations are just godamn annoying.
In truth Trivium love Metallica so much they want to sound like them, but if they even dare to hope to emulate their success its by furthering their own style rather than just sounding like a cover band.
To sum up: sorely disappointed with The Crusade, its a step foward in wrong direction and one with a dead end. Hope they keep in mind all the criticism when they write their next record (if they even last that far)
Dude whether you notice it or not, trivium do have big egos... read some of their interviews. They think they are the next the metallica, they're trying to sound like metallica literally
wow, its funny.. but correct me if i'm wrong.. but someones ego doesn't really affect how the music comes out. and trivium is a band, a band makes music for you to listen to. who listens to a song and goes OMG he has the hugest ego i totally hate this band.
your a dickhead.
if you go to a live show of a band to see how much of a dickhead they are as a person or to see how big their ego is. then get a fukin life ay. because if i was famous i would not give a shit if some nerd on a guitar tab site thought i had a big ego.
Trivium are amazing and they kick complete ass with the guitar and the guitar solos are just amazing and the drums are overwhemling and the bass sounds amazing 2!!!!!and 2 top this my girlfriend likes Trivium 2!!!
They're an okay band, but very over-rated. I think one song sums up Matts attitude, Anthem. That chanting bit, cmon!! You might aswell put Hetfield singin for **** sake! I listened 2 the album and I definetly think its a dissapointment. His vocals in Ascendancy are much better. Hes kinda roaring in this album, he really needs 2 soften his voice when he hits high notes
jesus, dont be all tough with a keyboard - if you dont like the band - fine - everyone has an opinion
if you dont like the new album - trivium didnt say you have to listen to it
if you like the band and new album, just say it
people arent wrong - their opinions just differ, its human life.
i completely agree but i would like to add if you dont like trivium - why the **** are you here?
B/c Trivium is potential. They wanted to see what people had to say about them and put in their two cents. It's people who claim cd comment sections like this as their own that gets f***ing annoying. They put this here for people to give their oppinions, not for people to wallow in close-minded fanboyism.
this album is a metallica album and im disappointed in trivium, cant you be more creative ?
How can you possibly think that the ENTIRE album sounds like Metallica?? People only began sayin this wen Detonation was first released, and at first i thought so too, cos of Heafy's voice, but then after buying the album, i wondered how the hell that connection was even made, apart from Detonation.
Their sound is completely different to Metallica's, and their music is much more technical.
You obviously havent listened to the album enough to give it a chance. Why let Matt's new 'Hetfield-esque' singing style put you off? he isn't copying Hetfield, he just grew out of the screaming and it was probably hurting his throat- thats why he doesnt scream anymore.
They do take some elements from other music and encorporate it into theyre own, as do many bands in general...its called influence!!! Its just that in this case, people assume its Metallica that they've 'ripped-off' cos thats the easiest band to point to, due to wats been sed about them being the 'next Metallica' - the statement was said, how they could become as big as them, not actually be Metallica!
Even if you think they sound like Metallica, this isnt a reason to hate them or the album. Even Kirk friggin Hammett said that he likes the album- hes IN metallica, so if he doesnt have any comments to say about how it does or doesnt sound like metallica then neither should any of you 'New Trivium-sound' haters.
I agree that Ascendancy is an incredible album, but if they were to make another record like it, THAT would just be boring and uncreative. Theyre an amazingly talented band hu inspire me and many others.
Whoever sed they have massive egos, wat the hell's wrong with that?? if you were as talented as them at their age and had done wat they've done, u wud too!!
Anyway, i'm with them all the way! The Crusade is another great album by Trivium and anybody hu disagrees will die!
i don't think you understand. selling maybe 200,000 records and having kids talk about you on a guitar site is not "Hollywood." Paris Hilton, handbags, and Star magazine are Hollywood. get it straight.
No, matt h has addapted to a new voice, If matt wasnt screaming in ascandency, he was singing, in this cd ..erm.....not sure, yelling? His singing was great in ascendancy and i wish he could of done it in this cd, however, this is still a good cd, and any trivium fan should get it regardless of matts voice.
...if there are any spelling errors give me a break i just got back from a concert and im tired from moshing and its late =[
i want a cookie
Oh my God, I thought the day would never come, but I think we got the new METALLICA or something here. This cd beats A7X and As I lay dying to the pulp.Great CD!
I personally think Trivium isn't that good of a band. They change so much, the new Trivium isn't as good as the old. Tne lyrics on this cd are not that well written and the music....theres something about it..that sparks no interest in me what so ever. It seems that they're actually trying to be the new Metallica.
hmmm, i think im gona comment about the people who are saying "the crusade" song, isnt as good as "orion". Well i guess i used to love orion, bit its so slow and gets a bit boring after a while, i think (IN MY OPINION) that the crusade blows it out of the wster. It alot more driven and catchy, and it doest let up, and then once uve gotten to 5:55 its amazing
Kymble :
the only thing i dont like about trivium is the fact they play signature guitars
well that's a valid reason...
Kymble : and they try to hard to sound like a genre that imo ended with mop.
so it's completely off limits to new bands? "OMG! that thrash sound is so, like, 1986! like totally! they think they can just like, go ahead and make a thrashy record?? whatever! that is so not fetch!"
first people moan about them being metalcore, now your moaning cause theyve stoppeed screaming. the band cant win. But anyway they really dont care if you think there crap, they playin good metal for people who appreciate it. They brought back the solo, something which crappy emo and nu metal didnt do.
and they sound nothing like anything out now. and metallica and machine head like em. nuff said for me.
first people moan about them being metalcore, now your moaning cause theyve stoppeed screaming. the band cant win. But anyway they really dont care if you think there crap, they playin good metal for people who appreciate it. They brought back the solo, something which crappy emo and nu metal didnt do.
I personally think Trivium isn't that good of a band. They change so much, the new Trivium isn't as good as the old. Tne lyrics on this cd are not that well written and the music....theres something about it..that sparks no interest in me what so ever. It seems that they're actually trying to be the new Metallica.
yay, something changed, there not as raw and trash as before, still great disk, but something happened
I love Trivium, but the thing with Matt and the rest of the band is, they are Metallica fanboys, they worship Metallica, and by kissing 'Tallica ass, Trivium loses credibility. Not saying that you shouldn't give credit to the ones that influence you, but the way Trivium got the crowd cheering for Metallica on their own set was a really foolish move.
And latviancheese, there is nothing wrong with nu-metal, there are many good nu-bands like Spipknot, Sevendust etc. Besides, solos aren't the most important thing in a song, its the songwriting skills that count and that was what nu-metal wanted to emphasize. Sadly, many bands of this genre weren't very good songwriters.
Lyrics are excellent? We are the fire, to the rats haha please Trivium stick to what your good at and i dont know what that is but it is not thrash p.s ascendancy is overated feckin pop metal
Ok, First and Foremost if your gonna comment atleast try to be intelligent and know your facts, thank you \m/ jamie \m/ for correcting thirdeyepried and his inability to know anything about Trivium. Does anyone else realize that if a band doesn't change or evolve, the band will burn itself out and go no where. Trivium did the smartest thing they could, wrote what felt right at the time, and not what the "screamo monkey's" wanted to hear. Classic Album: YES in a few years people will look back at the Crusade and say that is Trivium at their sharpest. I work at McDonald's and I listen to my iPod everyday while at work and all ive had on here for the past 2 days has been the Crusade, I am really soaking it in and loving everything about this album. So to you monkeys who think that the Crusade is trash, I say why don't you write better, more elaborate music and make it famous??? Well I guess that means you can't, oh Well.....TRIVIUM ROX \M/ \M/---Anyone seeing them at the Metro in Chicago SEE YOU THERE!
Again DO I Have to Say Much More, And too you "fans" where is your loyalty to Trivium, Never Hate them for what they do, but for what they are afriad to do.....
This album is the greatest thing in metal since MOP!!!!!
agreed
this better be sarcasm, Cryptopsy's Once Was Not is the best thing thats happened to metal since the departure of DiSalvo and Martin. ALL HAIL LORD WORM!!!
Arguing over genres is gay. There isnt a specific genre for this album. its many things- its thrash, its metal, its rock...watever
If u like it, then buy the album. if not, then stop wastin ur time gettin angry at ppl u dont even kno, over the internet. Who cares whether The Crusade is thrash, metalcore or rock. music shudnt b labelled so freely. this whole thing is fuked up cos all u ppl are like, "this musics better than that" - thats not how music is meant to be!!!
music isnt something to be labelled as good or bad... its a way of expressing things and its all down to personal feelings, such as whether you understand triviums lyrics or enjoy theyre music.
I think that 'Anthem' sound just like iron maiden!
alright, have you ever listened to an Iron Maiden song? at no time would i ever think that it sounds even remotely like Iron Maiden. oh, and the song sucks. iron Maiden is one of the best metal bands of all time. it's a disgrace to compare the two.
ok, i think trivium owns. but some of the critisim is valid. at first i was a bit disappointed that the crusade was not metalcore. but eventually i loved the album for what is, and i didnt hate it for what it wasnt. remember they are young so they cant yet be compared to the experianced awsomeness that is metallica, iron madden, lamb of god etc. for their experiance their skills are exeptional and im glad to see somone acually busts out good solos these days. but as songwriters and song creators they are still learning and that maturity will come. but for there experiance and age they are a clearly a step above other bands with the same credentials. the thing that makes them great is the massive potential and already we are seeing it. they WILL become great
latviancheese :
first people moan about them being metalcore, now your moaning cause theyve stoppeed screaming. the band cant win. But anyway they really dont care if you think there crap, they playin good metal for people who appreciate it. They brought back the solo, something which crappy emo and nu metal didnt do.
i dont know if the solo ever really went away, but Trivium definently made you go, "oh hell yeah i remember now--guitars can be played fast" --and that was even when they were metalcore. The new thrash stuff seems just as fast or faster, though in my opinion less catchy and memorable than the riffage on ascendancy.
And off topic, am I the only person that thinks DAMAGEPLAN "beats phil, darrel, vinnie and rex"?
this album is a metallica album and im disappointed in trivium, cant you be more creative ?
How can you possibly think that the ENTIRE album sounds like Metallica?? People only began sayin this wen Detonation was first released, and at first i thought so too, cos of Heafy's voice, but then after buying the album, i wondered how the hell that connection was even made, apart from Detonation.
Their sound is completely different to Metallica's, and their music is much more technical.
You obviously havent listened to the album enough to give it a chance. Why let Matt's new 'Hetfield-esque' singing style put you off? he isn't copying Hetfield, he just grew out of the screaming and it was probably hurting his throat- thats why he doesnt scream anymore.
They do take some elements from other music and encorporate it into theyre own, as do many bands in general...its called influence!!! Its just that in this case, people assume its Metallica that they've 'ripped-off' cos thats the easiest band to point to, due to wats been sed about them being the 'next Metallica' - the statement was said, how they could become as big as them, not actually be Metallica!
Even if you think they sound like Metallica, this isnt a reason to hate them or the album. Even Kirk friggin Hammett said that he likes the album- hes IN metallica, so if he doesnt have any comments to say about how it does or doesnt sound like metallica then neither should any of you 'New Trivium-sound' haters.
I agree that Ascendancy is an incredible album, but if they were to make another record like it, THAT would just be boring and uncreative. Theyre an amazingly talented band hu inspire me and many others.
Whoever sed they have massive egos, wat the hell's wrong with that?? if you were as talented as them at their age and had done wat they've done, u wud too!!
Anyway, i'm with them all the way! The Crusade is another great album by Trivium and anybody hu disagrees will die!
ah The new album is also un creative and boring, Acendency was more catchier then this rip off, im a trivium fan, but not a rip-off fan, Kirk Hammett might say he like but that doesnt make any difference, he probably see his old-self in the album anyway
i like this album and personally, i cant see them taking the next-metallica tag seriously anyway, theres definitley SOME influence of them on the album, but not as much as people proclaim. And besides, if you had been labelled the NEXT METALLICA, wouldnt you want to hold onto it?
latviancheese :
first people moan about them being metalcore, now your moaning cause theyve stoppeed screaming. the band cant win. But anyway they really dont care if you think there crap, they playin good metal for people who appreciate it. They brought back the solo, something which crappy emo and nu metal didnt do.
i dont know if the solo ever really went away, but Trivium definently made you go, "oh hell yeah i remember now--guitars can be played fast" --and that was even when they were metalcore. The new thrash stuff seems just as fast or faster, though in my opinion less catchy and memorable than the riffage on ascendancy.
And off topic, am I the only person that thinks DAMAGEPLAN "beats phil, darrel, vinnie and rex"?
Am I the only one that thinks Hanson is way better than all of these bands. I mean come on now, the boys from Hanson are way better than Dime, Vinnie, Rex, and Phil. And they are certainly better than the guys from Trivium. I mean mmmmbop. C'mon guys greatest song in the world, lyrically and musically.
i didn't like ascendancy, because i didn't like the vocals. i can't stand screaming. except in a pantera song, where a few key words are screamed, but not the whole ****in song. this album, however, i can't get enough of. the vocals are good, and musaccally it is insane. ZarDac i hope you're kidding. for a fundraiser, my school played that song at every break and kids paid for it to stop.
i really just couldnt be asked to explain myself, plus i was drunk at the time hence the spelling mistakes. i have my opinion, trivium are rubbish no matter what you lame people think. theyre a poor attempt at trying to be an 80's style metal band (the solos, i would say, are very 80's influenced).
yes, Mr. Beer I am kidding. I was just bored and pretty much making fun of everyone here. First I was making fun of the whole label thing saying all forms of metal and hardcore and such should be called Pop/Rock. Then I was making fun of ya'll getting mad over what band is the greatest. I mean who really cares.
As for my thoughts on the album, not like anyone cares, I thought it is an excellent album. I really don't see that big of a resemblance to Metallica and I am a big Metallica fan. I think ya'll just say that becuase everyone says they are going to be the next Metallica. Yes his voice is sorta like Hetfields but it isn't. If you listen to it you can tell it is very different. I also think that some of the best songs are the ones written with seven strings, they just sound way different than the rest, and are just more unique than the others. The instrumental track in no way resembles Orion. Again I think ya'll just say that becuase of the whole next Metallica thing. The only song that can resemble a Metallica song is Unrepentant. It sorta sounds like Through the Never.
Anyways about the whole ripping off of Metallica and other bands. Bands do this all the time. I remember reading in a Guitar One magazine and one of the guitarist from Shadows Fall said all they are really doing is ripping off stuff from older bands like Metallica and Iron Maiden. Even those older bands were ripping stuff off of other bands. It is just the way things are. It's not intentional, it just happens. If you listen to a lot of Metallica or Maiden, their influences will come out in your playing.
This new Trivium album is a god sent, they've given back life to a genre that metallica invented with RTL and MOP. These individuals are extremely talented for their ages and I will continue to follow their evolution for years to come.
People accusing them of ripping off the likes of Metallica or pantera are foolish because these bands are still very different in comparison.
WOW THE BANDS NAME IS TRIVIUM they dont sound like metallica at all. did hetfield invent signing in a raspy voice? Or do all new metal bands have to scream.also im sure if from now on i wanted to be referred to as the next zakk wylde you would all comply am i correct?
this is one of the worst albums i have ever heard. I liked trivium for a short period of time until i wised the **** up and realised that they were absolute shit
7_seven_7 wrote: wow, its funny.. but correct me if i'm wrong.. but someones ego doesn't really affect how the music comes out.
Er, I never implied that their ego's shapes their music so learn to read next time idiot.
Listen to it and read what I said, generic riffs, generic solos (how many times have we heard them shred), generic use of instruments and less use of guitar harmony which worked so well on their previous albums. Plus Matt's singing sounds worse here then on Ascendancy which was actually one of the highlights for me. Oh and he tries so hard to sound like Hetfield its just not funny.
7_seven_7 wrote: and trivium is a band, a band makes music for you to listen to. who listens to a song and goes OMG he has the hugest ego i totally hate this band.
I was a very big fan of Trivium pre-Crusade, so don't think I'm just one of the haters.
7_seven_7 wrote: if you go to a live show of a band to see how much of a dickhead they are as a person or to see how big their ego is. then get a fukin life ay.
I'm not really the type to go to live shows to observe a person or band's ego just so I can slag them off, so I have no idea where you got that idea from.
7_seven_7 wrote: because if i was famous i would not give a shit if some nerd on a guitar tab site thought i had a big ego.
Last I checked I wasn't the only "nerd on a guitar tab site" pointing out their dislike/disapointment with their new CD.
7_seven_7 wrote: artificialH, i diagnose you with jealousy
Oh you got me there, I'm just jealous... obviously.
idk... i think ascendancy was better and i liked their general sound of them in ascendancy and ember to inferno. they semmed to have changed their sound, but i'm a big fan of the shredding-screaming-angry
-i'm-going-to-tear-a-hole
-in-someone vibe...
We also know that The Crusade is a total copy of Metallica.
Here are the facts about it though
The album isnt that bad i've listened to it; its just a diffrent style of music.
The problem is... compared to Ascendancy is a peice of shit... espically if you liked matt's screaming; that to me was a big part of the feel to Trivium. But since in the new album he doesnt do that and instead he attempts to do some James Hetfeild vocals.
The result is a bad follow up album which brings a huge dissapointment to some fans.
We also know that The Crusade is a total copy of Metallica.
Here are the facts about it though
The album isnt that bad i've listened to it; its just a diffrent style of music.
The problem is... compared to Ascendancy is a peice of shit... espically if you liked matt's screaming; that to me was a big part of the feel to Trivium. But since in the new album he doesnt do that and instead he attempts to do some James Hetfeild vocals.
The result is a bad follow up album which brings a huge dissapointment to some fans.
i continually flammed this album when i first heard some of the stuff on it
but i bought it anyway and i have never made a better decision
This album has everything i love about metal on it, and its catchy as hell!
personal favourite: Ignition
Amazing album! absolutley amazing, his voice is way more unique sounding than hetfileds, listen to it it has its own trviium feel, jus like the instruments, solos and everything on this album does. Bloody amazing easily one of the best 2006 releases along with the likes of unearth and all that remains.
it doesnt take a whole lot of talent to rip off metallica i dont know how this could be called the future of metal its a bunch of hardcore people who listened 2 metallica then wanted to become them
I half way agree. It is a good album...but it does sound liek a metallica rip off. We want a new Master Of Puppets in the since of the musical impact. Not another Litteral Master Of Puppets. I like the last album alot more.
the crusade irritates me a little. they sold out on their screaming to please all you mainstream sheep like metallica99. i was expecting a little more from them, but i can say that they are both definitely guitar gods in the making. they should stop trying to be the next metallica and foccus on being the next trivium. i have moved on to demon hunter and afterimage at this point but i still listen to triv occasionally. when they throw out another masterpiece like Ascendancy, i will start giving them more time. i would rather listen to metallica then listen to trivium trying to be them. and the music video to anthem is moronic. another mansion and another look what you dont have. i am sick of the whole "next metallica" thing. maybe if they got labled that, but they werent, they made that gimmik up themselves. people dont want to see a next metallica, they want to see what trivium are capable of. LETS SEE IT
Ok, First and Foremost if your gonna comment atleast try to be intelligent and know your facts, thank you \m/ jamie \m/ for correcting thirdeyepried and his inability to know anything about Trivium. Does anyone else realize that if a band doesn't change or evolve, the band will burn itself out and go no where. Trivium did the smartest thing they could, wrote what felt right at the time, and not what the "screamo monkey's" wanted to hear. Classic Album: YES in a few years people will look back at the Crusade and say that is Trivium at their sharpest. I work at McDonald's and I listen to my iPod everyday while at work and all ive had on here for the past 2 days has been the Crusade, I am really soaking it in and loving everything about this album. So to you monkeys who think that the Crusade is trash, I say why don't you write better, more elaborate music and make it famous??? Well I guess that means you can't, oh Well.....TRIVIUM ROX \M/ \M/---Anyone seeing them at the Metro in Chicago SEE YOU THERE!
Again DO I Have to Say Much More, And too you "fans" where is your loyalty to Trivium, Never Hate them for what they do, but for what they are afriad to do.....
Again Nuff Said, and EMO AND TRIVIUM IN THE SAME SENTENCE HA, get your eyes Checked!
they had their own awesome sound, they could be up there with LoB, if they werent already...then they completely ripped off of metallica. completely. i loved these guys....sure the new albums alright, but...no...
Ok, First and Foremost if your gonna comment atleast try to be intelligent and know your facts, thank you \m/ jamie \m/ for correcting thirdeyepried and his inability to know anything about Trivium. Does anyone else realize that if a band doesn't change or evolve, the band will burn itself out and go no where. Trivium did the smartest thing they could, wrote what felt right at the time, and not what the "screamo monkey's" wanted to hear. Classic Album: YES in a few years people will look back at the Crusade and say that is Trivium at their sharpest. I work at McDonald's and I listen to my iPod everyday while at work and all ive had on here for the past 2 days has been the Crusade, I am really soaking it in and loving everything about this album. So to you monkeys who think that the Crusade is trash, I say why don't you write better, more elaborate music and make it famous??? Well I guess that means you can't, oh Well.....TRIVIUM ROX \M/ \M/---Anyone seeing them at the Metro in Chicago SEE YOU THERE!
Again DO I Have to Say Much More, And too you "fans" where is your loyalty to Trivium, Never Hate them for what they do, but for what they are afriad to do..... Again Nuff Said, and EMO AND TRIVIUM IN THE SAME SENTENCE HA, get your eyes Checked!
first of all SHUT THE HELL UP, for your own good, we all love trivium, dont question our loyalty to trivium just because we are disappointed with this overratted album. if trivium told you to jump off a bridge would you?
Anarion614 wrote:
they had their own awesome sound, they could be up there with LoB, if they werent already...then they completely ripped off of metallica. completely. i loved these guys....sure the new albums alright, but...no...
the crusade irritates me a little. they sold out on their screaming to please all you mainstream sheep like metallica99. i was expecting a little more from them, but i can say that they are both definitely guitar gods in the making. they should stop trying to be the next metallica and foccus on being the next trivium. i have moved on to demon hunter and afterimage at this point but i still listen to triv occasionally. when they throw out another masterpiece like Ascendancy, i will start giving them more time. i would rather listen to metallica then listen to trivium trying to be them. and the music video to anthem is moronic. another mansion and another look what you dont have. i am sick of the whole "next metallica" thing. maybe if they got labled that, but they werent, they made that gimmik up themselves. people dont want to see a next metallica, they want to see what trivium are capable of. LETS SEE IT
the music on this album is good. I like the singing, but the problem with his singing, is not that it sounds like james hetfield alot, but that now you can hear them you realise that wow, Matt Heafy is not that great of a lyricist. Also I want you people to listen to the intro of unrepentant and then go listen to Metallica's Through The Never.
the problem with this album is that they didnt make it for the sake of making it. they made it to be the next metallica. metallica would have been equally as happy if they kept playing gigs in bars like the way they started in the early 80s. metallica earned their way. trivium have pretty much done tehm selves in with this one. i like all their stuff, i jsut cant accept their reasons for this new album.
i do have respects for this album, dont get me wrong. and sadness will sear, this world cant tear us apart, unrepentant. all great. the old days were better tho. i am sick of the greedy motives of bands to make it to "the top". they said metalcore sucks and it is way too fad based, but that was when they were playing it. it is just irritating
OK ive listened to the album more since my last comment so heres what i think. Its not as bad as i thot before, it does have some good songs in it. However.... Like triviumrocks said we expected more from it considering the hype but trivium needs to be trivium and not focus on being the next metallica... but then again being compared to metallica cant be that bad can it?
whine, bitch, moan, complain, disrupt, elaborate, curse, argue, and hate all you want, but what you really fail to realize is Trivium obviously doesn't give a shit cause they haven't stopped playing. To be honest I love them for many reasons, but to be honest, the whole Heafy is sounding like Hettfield b.s. is retarded. Have you ever listened to Metallica? It is a blatent OBVIOUS difference that even a deaf autistic child could pick up and decipher and write a 5 page essay about the differences and only have one short paragraph about similiarities. I admire Trivium for growing up and stopping the screaming for all you little whiners and moaners that can't appreciate real music, don't get me wrong, screaming is cool, but no screaming band is ever really remembered as well as a band with a pumped amazing singer. They want to play even when they are old, so Matt is doing the wise thing and preserving his voice, give it time guys, It's like a whole new route they are taking and they need to file off some rough edges.
First of all I'd like to say I'm a huge Metallica and Megadeth fan. I also loved the two previous records of TRIVIUM, they're awesome. Matt and Corey shred the hell out of their guitars but what should I say about THE CRUSADE? It sounds like they try to sell out and they want to copy Metallica and Megadeth but there will be only one Metallica and no other so they should leave it to copy them and continue with their old style!
one of the tracks in this album (sorry dunno the name) sounds just like "thru the never" by metallica. I understand the metallica influence has already been addressed, but i thought that song was a cover when i heard the opening riff. That was a big rip off. Still like the album tho.
We also know that The Crusade is a total copy of Metallica.
Here are the facts about it though
The album isnt that bad i've listened to it; its just a diffrent style of music.
The problem is... compared to Ascendancy is a peice of shit... espically if you liked matt's screaming; that to me was a big part of the feel to Trivium. But since in the new album he doesnt do that and instead he attempts to do some James Hetfeild vocals.
The result is a bad follow up album which brings a huge dissapointment to some fans.
I give it a 1.5/5
Absolutely agree, ascendancy was an amazing album, for me the crusade is a let down.
i love this album, the anthem (we are the fire) great song, just turn your backs on your enemies and let those mother****ers rot in their jealousy GREAT lyrics! i like how matt has changed the way he goes about singin these songs. iv got ember to inferno and ascendency or however its spelled, and out of those 2 cd's you might be able to get about 15 words out of all of it ha ha, this new matt its alot better. good job trivium. keep it up
id say it was bearable on ascendancy,but watchin rain live without the shouting sucked ass....utter baws
The album is alright but produced like juice from concentrate....its nowhere near raw enough....
ok seriously just because Matt stopped screaming doesn't mean that trivium sold out. That statement is fu**ing bull. Maybe he did it to save his f***ing voice or it was irritating. Don't say they sold out cuz they didn't they just changed they're music. Like it or don't!
i am a trivium fan, and i like this album almost as much as ascendancy, but i think matt heafy is an overrated guitar player. his style of solos is fast scales with wah...sounds cool, but not that amazing. corey on the other hand, is amazing. listen to the solo of "in the fire" off the roadrunner united CD...his part at least. the man can play.
This album rules i haven't stop listening to it seen it came out, but it sounds like and immitation to Metallica back in the black album,load,reload days... other than that it rules!
im hearing all this shit here lately about how trivium is the new metallica. i can understand where its all coming from because of matt's voice. but come on people. just like johnnie said. each band is there own band. period. all of these new bands are tied to an older band in some way... its the foundation of metal. trivium is a great band. just as atreyu, and as i lay dying, and it dies today and so on and so on. these bands formed because of the bands before them. im not saying all bands are alike, and yes each band is creative and do things there own way, but how many times have you read about a band and where it says "influences" it dont have any band names there? trivium is trivium. not metallica, not metallica wanna-bes and not a metallica cover band. period
The Crusade is a great album.I am going to miss Matt's screaming but hey theres nothing wrong with a little bit of change, and if you call yourself a true Trivium fan you should have respect for the new album. I personally like Ascendancy better, but this is still a kick ass album.
...Some people just amaze me with their assumptions. Matt never wanted to scream in the first place, but he apparently "had to" in order to "mature his voice." Matt's voice sounds -nothing- like James'. If it's the very fact that he's singing in a heavy metal voice that makes him a rip-off of Hetfield, then what's to say about some of the other metal bands out there that sing in a Hetfield-esque voice ? For some reason, I can't think of an example, but come on people...similar singing styles isn't ripping someone off.
And Trivium hasn't sold out; since when was attempting to revive '80s thrash metal (which was a rebellion in itself) been considered selling out ?
i saw these guys live yesterday and they were f*cking awesome. pretty much every body there was moshing including me and i have the facial bruise to show for it, and for the idiots who are saying matt can't sing... he can. he sucked ass before i know but he sounded exactly like the album.
wow. majority of you are total morons. i registered on UG just so i could yell at you idiots.
for one thing, about trivium saying that they want to be the "next metallica" doesnt mean they LITERALLY want to be them. if you how to analyze people's words correctly you would know what they mean. they want to be the next big metal band like metallica WAS back in the hay day. they want to revive metal back to the point where every big metal band was playing in sold out arenas, not smaller venues like the house of blues, or your local small theater. THATS what theu meant by "being the next metallica"
ok, so there are simaliarties to matt's vocal stylings to hetfields. but did any of you know he went to a trainer to learn to sing better? he went to a vocal coach who has helped other big acts help keep their vocals in check such as arch enemy's singer. did it also occur to you that hetfield IS a big influence in his music? everyone has their influences, and odds are they WILL rub off on them. im sure all of you musicans know what im talking about. little elements will come into your style of playing of your biggest influences. thats WHY their your influences, cause you dig their sound and you would like to take a little piece and mesh it into your own stuff, making YOUR style.
indeed bands like metallica and in flames "sold out" on their fans by having a more mainstream sound. how would you feel if it felt like you were writing the same album over and over, and it was no longer intresting? they just want their music to be spread over a bigger audience but they also try and keep their "core" fans because they are their most trusted fans. how do you think the band feels when they lose those die hard fans by "selling out" by trying to keep it intresting for them,a and for the listeners. if anything, that just makes YOU selfish. bands will change, and if you cant accept that, then listen to you "kill 'em all" and what ever the hell you listen to over and over until you feel better about yourself and your taste of music.
and for another thing. they DIDNT LIKE THE VOCALS IN THE FIRST PLACE. they WANTED to switch to the clean because they LIKED IT MORE. read some interviews about it. Paolo even touches on the subject himself. again, THEY DIDNT LIKE THE VOCALS ON ASCENDANCY OR EMBER TO INFERNO. if you dont like it, shove it up your ass, and YOU sing for trivium.
since everyone seems to compare metallice to trivium ill use another example.
metallica uses ALOT of power chords. i mean, ALOT. look at 'master of puppets', 'fight fire with fire' 'one'(if you look at the shape of the little acoustic piece it IS a power chord) "fade to black"(same deal), "welcome home (sanitarium)" (again same deal) its mostly power chords. trivium DOES use powerchords, but they are VASTLY more technical to their icons. not saying they are better guitar players, but their music says more than metallicas ever could. thats another big difference. and heafy does waaaay more melodies than hetfield ever did. even BEFORE 'the crusade' came out.
and i like how everyone keeps calling them 'metalcore' when other than the vocals, nothing about their music gives off metal core. theres no breakdowns, theirs no insanley fast double bass. for god sakes theirs not blasts beats, low growls, or high screams. if you are to call a band a genre at least KNOW what the genre sounds like. these mainstream "metalcore bands" i.e. killswitch engage, unearth arnt real metalcore. they have the metal sound mixed with something else, but that doesnt make them metalcore. trivium's plan was never "lets go metalcore" it was "lets go be metal". they hate the 'metalcore' label and if u where their fans you would know that.
PERSONALLY i like ascendancy better. but i dont believe in bands selling out. ever. i look at it from THEIR standpoint and appreciate what they do. i love 'the crusade' and it did excede my expectations, but it was not as good as i hoped it would be. ascendancy is better in my opinion, as are the vocals on that as well. but i can appreciate what they have done, and i still enjoy the new sound as much as i did the old.
because im a real fan, and i dont "sellout" on the bands i listen to.
blackfire1206 damn right,but one thig i dnt get is most people saying they sound like metallica, slayer etc. i dnt think they sound like them at all. and as blackfire1206 said metallica was there influence so they r gonna sound like them sort of, and if u dnt like it, get over it. if u dnt like the songs get over it, go listen to sum other trivium songs.
and also someone said the ysound like fall out boy???? lol go get ur hearing checked please.
I've only recently listened to Crusade, having never listened to any of their older music, or seen the band on Mtv or anything like that. I've taken them on face value, and on that...they are good. Really good, potentially world beating good. I've heard this album once only and the first thing I thought of was that they sounded like Metallica, but they do have a similar but unique sound. Big Day Out in Oz just announced them as an act and after only one listen to the akbum...they've sold me.
I think that Trivium are an awesome band but if they'd cut out the screaming then they would be an even bigger success. The Crusade one of the best albums this year so buy it!!!
you guys say they are truly inside a screaming metalcore band. but in several interviews i heard Matt never wan't to scream. it just when they started he was really young and his voice was cracking so he screamed. crusade kicks ass \m/
wow. majority of you are total morons. i registered on UG just so i could yell at you idiots.
for one thing, about trivium saying that they want to be the "next metallica" doesnt mean they LITERALLY want to be them. if you how to analyze people's words correctly you would know what they mean. they want to be the next big metal band like metallica WAS back in the hay day. they want to revive metal back to the point where every big metal band was playing in sold out arenas, not smaller venues like the house of blues, or your local small theater. THATS what theu meant by "being the next metallica"
ok, so there are simaliarties to matt's vocal stylings to hetfields. but did any of you know he went to a trainer to learn to sing better? he went to a vocal coach who has helped other big acts help keep their vocals in check such as arch enemy's singer. did it also occur to you that hetfield IS a big influence in his music? everyone has their influences, and odds are they WILL rub off on them. im sure all of you musicans know what im talking about. little elements will come into your style of playing of your biggest influences. thats WHY their your influences, cause you dig their sound and you would like to take a little piece and mesh it into your own stuff, making YOUR style.
indeed bands like metallica and in flames "sold out" on their fans by having a more mainstream sound. how would you feel if it felt like you were writing the same album over and over, and it was no longer intresting? they just want their music to be spread over a bigger audience but they also try and keep their "core" fans because they are their most trusted fans. how do you think the band feels when they lose those die hard fans by "selling out" by trying to keep it intresting for them,a and for the listeners. if anything, that just makes YOU selfish. bands will change, and if you cant accept that, then listen to you "kill 'em all" and what ever the hell you listen to over and over until you feel better about yourself and your taste of music.
and for another thing. they DIDNT LIKE THE VOCALS IN THE FIRST PLACE. they WANTED to switch to the clean because they LIKED IT MORE. read some interviews about it. Paolo even touches on the subject himself. again, THEY DIDNT LIKE THE VOCALS ON ASCENDANCY OR EMBER TO INFERNO. if you dont like it, shove it up your ass, and YOU sing for trivium.
since everyone seems to compare metallice to trivium ill use another example.
metallica uses ALOT of power chords. i mean, ALOT. look at 'master of puppets', 'fight fire with fire' 'one'(if you look at the shape of the little acoustic piece it IS a power chord) "fade to black"(same deal), "welcome home (sanitarium)" (again same deal) its mostly power chords. trivium DOES use powerchords, but they are VASTLY more technical to their icons. not saying they are better guitar players, but their music says more than metallicas ever could. thats another big difference. and heafy does waaaay more melodies than hetfield ever did. even BEFORE 'the crusade' came out.
and i like how everyone keeps calling them 'metalcore' when other than the vocals, nothing about their music gives off metal core. theres no breakdowns, theirs no insanley fast double bass. for god sakes theirs not blasts beats, low growls, or high screams. if you are to call a band a genre at least KNOW what the genre sounds like. these mainstream "metalcore bands" i.e. killswitch engage, unearth arnt real metalcore. they have the metal sound mixed with something else, but that doesnt make them metalcore. trivium's plan was never "lets go metalcore" it was "lets go be metal". they hate the 'metalcore' label and if u where their fans you would know that.
PERSONALLY i like ascendancy better. but i dont believe in bands selling out. ever. i look at it from THEIR standpoint and appreciate what they do. i love 'the crusade' and it did excede my expectations, but it was not as good as i hoped it would be. ascendancy is better in my opinion, as are the vocals on that as well. but i can appreciate what they have done, and i still enjoy the new sound as much as i did the old.
because im a real fan, and i dont "sellout" on the bands i listen to.
yes, another intelligent person to argue. i respect what you're saying man, and i'm not gonna bash you, i just hope you're not one of those people that get butt hurt if i disagree.
anyway, for a band like trivium to say something like "we wanna be the next metallica..." i'm sure they must haveknown what they were sayin...either that or they're idiots not to know how that statement would be taken or how much it's gonna stick to people. i'm not even kidding, i can't read about them anywhere without them being referred to as the new metallica, the new guitar world says somthin like "the crusade is the best metallica album that metallica never made..." i bet you a million bucks, if trivium never said anything about wanting to be the next metallica, they wouldn't be refered to by so many as the next metallica.
anyway, i've lost respect for them because of what they said, because either:
1. they were trying to use the media to reach audiences and hope that their words would stick to 'em, and hope that their fans started referring to them as the next metallica (which is lame)
2. they really DO wanna be the next metallica (which is lame, there can never be another of another band)
3. they're idiots and didn't realize that what they said TO THE MEDIA would reach so many people (which is lame, because it's stupid, they should know that what's said to the media is 10 times stronger then what's said to anyone else.)
seriously, after this album (so long as you've heard both metallica and crusade) you can't deny that trivium sounds more like metallica than any other two bands sound like each other. trivium and metallica sound more like each other after the crusade than any other two bands i've ever heard.
yea, he changed his singing (to sound like hetfield in my opinion)... but forget about that right now, because you're completely ignoring the fact that as a BAND they changed everything , their drummer is actually cutting back a bit on double bass, their music completely changed, it's thrashier. they even jam like metallica did non stage, heafy even had a hetfield sorta beard for awhile. they're goin to far.
look, completely aside from them sounding like metallica, i still dont respect them anymore. i've been around music all my life, i know it's purpose, and i know what i'm talkin about. i feel as though if i were to sit in on one of their practices while they were makin up as song, they'd probably say stuff like "put this riff there, that riff here, put that drum beat over that bass line cuz it sounds f*ckin badass!!! " as opposed to "put this riff there, that riff here, put that drum beat over that bass line cuz it inspires the feeling and thought that i want it to "
you guys, there are way better bands out ther, i won't mention any of which i think are better, but it's still a fact that there are better. trivium as barely metal anyway, i don't think they should be given so much attention. much less, i don't think that if they ARE the one's to change metal, that it would be any good. there are much more bands out there with much more talent, and musical ability and understanding that do a much better job of creating music than trivium, i'm not mentioning any because i'm sure all you guys could easily find them for yourself.
so yea, i don't know if you'll agree with me, i doubt you will, but yea, hope you comment back dude, just curious to hear what you have to say, even if it's in total disagreeance with what i've said.
i just think everyones pissed cuz they quite doing screamo. which guess what they never wanted to do screamo but at the time that was all heafty was capable of.
I personally liked it when they screamed. It added an intensity to the music that complimented the guitar and drum style very well. Screaming would not have worked on the new songs. They just have a different feel as opposed to previous albums. They still kick major ass though.
Honestly i like them better this way. There is just a certain kind of feel to this album. I really didn't like their screaming that much but i think they can play very mean guitar riffs especially in their solos.
ascendency was good, this was ****ing awesome in my book, they have a cool metallica sound, which i love since metallica is one of my favorite bands, the solos are really badass on this cd, i have seen a lot of people say they hate this cd, but i ****ing love it, much better than the screaming in my opinion, when u have a voice like that, u definetly shouldnt have to scream, i just dont want them to try to hard to be metallica, overall, this album sounds awesome!!
Any band that says they want to be a new version of another band is ****ing LAME. And remember, they actually said that. I don't know if anyone caught the article in the October Guitar World where Heafy and Hammett jerk each other off for a few pages... I stopped reading when they started complementing their super cool skin tight pants.
I don't care what genre Trivium is, because whatever it is, it sucks. Any genre, with lack of talent, or just plain lack of sincerity, can suck. And this is it, right here.
And somebody said they were bringing solos back to metal... What? The good metal never LEFT the solo. And if you want a Headbanger's Ball-type band that's been keeping solos going for a long time, check out Children of Bodom. Been around a lot longer than Trivicallica.
And why worship any bands? All of the good stuff is made by people who are inspired to make music because of a band, but from there, want to make their own. Not half-assed copies of another band's music...
It's almost impossible to define what makes Trivium suck as bad as they do, but it's there, and in great quantity.
Trivium ripped off almost an entire Megadeth song on this album. One track sounds almost exactly like "Eye of the Tornado," from RIP. The song has the exact same chord progression, and a few of Marty Friedman's licks; verbatim. As far as the album goes besides that; okay guitar playing, won't comment on the singing, don't want to get flagged.
i'm so glad some of you guys agree with me, even if you didn't read my post, thank you, i'm not even kidding, you are some of the few people that haven't lost sight of intelligent, true music; as opposed to, of course, the people who've GAINED sight of the new goddamn trendy band to like.
death to trivium, long live music. (i say that as in "meaningful music..." ...which trivium is not... )
i just think everyones pissed cuz they quite doing screamo. which guess what they never wanted to do screamo but at the time that was all heafty was capable of.
shut up. they were never screamo, and hopefully they never will be. google screamo and unless some moron out there is spreading the word that they are, u wont find them there.
anyway, i've lost respect for them because of what they said, because either:
1. they were trying to use the media to reach audiences and hope that their words would stick to 'em, and hope that their fans started referring to them as the next metallica (which is lame)
2. they really DO wanna be the next metallica (which is lame, there can never be another of another band)
3. they're idiots and didn't realize that what they said TO THE MEDIA would reach so many people (which is lame, because it's stupid, they should know that what's said to the media is 10 times stronger then what's said to anyone else.)
seriously, after this album (so long as you've heard both metallica and crusade) you can't deny that trivium sounds more like metallica than any other two bands sound like each other. trivium and metallica sound more like each other after the crusade than any other two bands i've ever heard.
yea, he changed his singing (to sound like hetfield in my opinion)... but forget about that right now, because you're completely ignoring the fact that as a BAND they changed everything, their drummer is actually cutting back a bit on double bass, their music completely changed, it's thrashier. they even jam like metallica did non stage, heafy even had a hetfield sorta beard for awhile. they're goin to far.
look, completely aside from them sounding like metallica, i still dont respect them anymore. i've been around music all my life, i know it's purpose, and i know what i'm talkin about. i feel as though if i were to sit in on one of their practices while they were makin up as song, they'd probably say stuff like "put this riff there, that riff here, put that drum beat over that bass line cuz it sounds f*ckin badass!!!" as opposed to "put this riff there, that riff here, put that drum beat over that bass line cuz it inspires the feeling and thought that i want it to"
you guys, there are way better bands out ther, i won't mention any of which i think are better, but it's still a fact that there are better. trivium as barely metal anyway, i don't think they should be given so much attention. much less, i don't think that if they ARE the one's to change metal, that it would be any good. there are much more bands out there with much more talent, and musical ability and understanding that do a much better job of creating music than trivium, i'm not mentioning any because i'm sure all you guys could easily find them for yourself.
so yea, i don't know if you'll agree with me, i doubt you will, but yea, hope you comment back dude, just curious to hear what you have to say, even if it's in total disagreeance with what i've said.
ahaha. finally someone who isnt as one sided as everyone else is >.>;;
ok so like, trivium is prolly the crappiest band i listen to honestly. im not going to deny they have an EXTREME closeness to metallica, since i used to be a die hard metallica fan (read their biographies [books], listened to them everyday, had 9 of their shirts)and i wont deny that a lot of their songs arent very original sounding i.e. anthem (we are the fire), the rising (sounds like maiden/def leppard esque). so, ive got your back on that subject. in orginality i give them an F on the crusade.
and his vox are definately like het's. but like i said earlier, big influences, yadayadayada. u have to admit, if u had never heard het's voice, his vocals would be amazing which they are. its just too bad he modeled them almost exactley like het's.
music isnt always about making something that has huge significance to people's mindset or feelings. some songs are just made to be bad ass. like, cannibal corpse. u cant really believe that they mean everything they say in their songs. or slayer, to quote tom araya "they are just words." but i do agree, trivium DOES need to eff off and get their own style instead of blending everyone elses. but i say they do what they feel is right and hopefully their next album wont be so bad.
but i do believe that their cd was more of a dedication to the bands they love. most likely the reason why they all sound like bands they are really into i.e megadeath(corey), metallica(heafy), def lepard(poalo), iron maiden(the band as a whole).
and i honestly was expecting blast beats in ignition and was seriously disapointed.
but the point is, in all honesty. dispite what everyone may claim about them and their suckiness ill stick by them and hope for the best. i believe they are wonderful musicans, its just they need to figure out what trivium really is. not what all their favorite bands are. and once they get that down, maybe they will release their own epic, instead of everyone elses. im just trying to prove a point that not everyone should just say they suck and not think of the process/effort that went into the album.
im in a band so i can relate to them. i know what its like to write a song, listen to it and say "shit that sounds like a slayer song" or "shit that sounds like amon
amarth (damn i got cut off)." so ya cheers to them. i totally forgot what else i had to say cause i brain farted when i hit the "Post a Comment!" button but ill be back when i remember lol.
coooool, jesus, jesus christ thank you, you have no idea how hard it is to actually talk to somebody who's reasonable about music. i mean, shit, i like trivium, but even if they were my fave band ever i wouldn't go into denial like some of these people on here and pretend like i don't think they ripped off so many bands. that's just lying to yourself. i like 'em, i don't respect them, i don't think they're badass, but they definitely don't suck.
Trivium has always rock and they still do, so what if they sound like the legends we praise(Metallica,Iron Maiden..etc), shouldnt we be thankful, i think there makin ***king history
LeadGuitarRcker, dude, at least you admit they sound too much like others, seriously, that's nothing to go down into history for, at least in a good way. all you have to do is know how to play guitar, then anybody can rip off another band, so what, should they go down into history too?
coooool, jesus, jesus christ thank you, you have no idea how hard it is to actually talk to somebody who's reasonable about music. i mean, shit, i like trivium, but even if they were my fave band ever i wouldn't go into denial like some of these people on here and pretend like i don't think they ripped off so many bands. that's just lying to yourself. i like 'em, i don't respect them, i don't think they're badass, but they definitely don't suck.
haha i agree, it is hard to talk to someone who understands the talent it takes to write music. and by the way i found out through an interview that 'the crusade' is really an ode to all of their favorite bands. they wrote the songs that way to sound like others to show tribute to the bands they love. 'the crusade' is just a statement describing the rise of metal in the 80s, how thgey were 'crusading' with their music across the world and they only wanted to show a tribute. so hopefully their next album will be much much better.
The Crusade is a ****ing kickass album. I dont see how a lot of people hate it. The Crusade is better than Ascendancy. Although Ascendancy was good too. I think all of Triviums albums are awesome.
The Crusade is a ****ing kickass album. I dont see how a lot of people hate it. The Crusade is better than Ascendancy. Although Ascendancy was good too. I think all of Triviums albums are awesome.
because it sounds like a lot of other good bands. it odesnt have their sound it in it. the vocals sound like metallica, the riffs sound like metallica, megadeth, annihilator and iron maiden. it doesnt have the same edge as it would if it was their own sound. not a bunch of other bands' sounds meshed together with their influence. its a good album. but its not as good as ascendancy BECAUSE ascendancy was totaly their own sound, not everyone elses.
This album rules i haven't stop listening to it seen it came out, but it sounds like and immitation to Metallica back in the black album,load,reload days... other than that it rules!
WTF! Are you kidding me. Trivium does not sound like post-And Justice Metallica. Each are different.
Styx wrote:
This album rules i haven't stop listening to it seen it came out, but it sounds like and immitation to Metallica back in the black album,load,reload days... other than that it rules!
Metallica & Trivium do not sound anything alike, there both metal bands and thats the only thing they got in common.
And if there were any similarities at all between the two, load & reload are not the albums to quote lol
Styx wrote:
This album rules i haven't stop listening to it seen it came out, but it sounds like and immitation to Metallica back in the black album,load,reload days... other than that it rules!
Metallica & Trivium do not sound anything alike, there both metal bands and thats the only thing they got in common.
And if there were any similarities at all between the two, load & reload are not the albums to quote lol
sorry man, you're obviously in denial. it's totally fine you like trivium, but if they take a step back, they took a step back, don't deny it man, it's evident, i'm not even kidding or exaggerating, i can't stop pulling iron maiden/metallica/megadeth riffs, drum beats, cliff burton's bass lines, and drums. it's to the point that it's gotten personal, i like the music, though i don't respect it for sh*t. i definitely don't respect the band. any true 'tallica fan would be pissed. any true metalhead would dismiss such a fake sounding band. i'm not sayin you should realize it to be cool or to be a "true" metalhead, i don't care if you're a metalhead; but trivium, as self-proclaimed metalheads, are really an embarassment to metal, and i'm still in ridiculous amazement of the 90% you guys on here who've dubbed this album with integrity when it has none. damn...i reeeeeally gotta find somethin else to argue about, i'm tired of wanna-be-metallica's ...i mean...trivium.
Well, Im A HUGE. Metallica Fan. And I know that metallica hasnt been so hot with their recent albums. But you know the old guys are losing their pluck, and i guess creativity doesnt come as easily for them anymore. Anyways, in my opnion Trivium is picking up where Metallica left off. If Everyone is gonna argue about trivium being a rip off of the old Metallica and Maiden, then i think your all wrong because How Many of this generations heavymetal bands even come close to metallica? or any other BIG heavymetal band for that matter?
Personnally i think Trivium is Doing a damn good Job with their Music . Even Maiden and tallica approve of it. They said it themselves.
So "Adamantium" If Lars Ulrich, James Hetfield or Kirk Hammett are not metalheads, then who would you consider a metalhead?
Just Curious. Anyways. Metallica = GOD. And Trivium is sitting at gods Right Hand Side.
I dont give a damn if they do sound like metallica wannabes. i looked them up one day and i found out that these guys are less then half of metallicas age and both corey and matt probably have more talent than kirk hammett. matt is only 20, not even old enough to buy himself beer. corey is 22. travis smith is 24. and paolo is only 21. they are all kickass musicians.
you will what i mean by saying that kirk hammett is not a guitar god like people think. just learn how to shred on guitar and you will agree with me that his solos are easy as ****
Yeah, due to Matt's singing, they sound alot like 'Tallica, And it does seem like he's trying to be him or something. But it sounds good. He's a great vocalist if ya ask for my opinion. People are bashing it cause it sounds like old Metallica, but thats good shit, so what are you complaining about?
Anyway, great album. I like Ascendancy a little better. But not much to complain about at all.
chinga sus madres! this is so annoying! all of you who just come in her and say triviums sucks blah blah are freaking pathetic! seriously. and if you dont like their music.....to bad! thats the way they are gonna sound from now one.....hopefully.....i love trivium and i think they have alot of talent. especially at their age.....
Who cares if the sound like Metallica? I love Metallica and they didn't do enough while they were around anyway. I don't even think they're really all that similar. I completely disregarded the first 2 albums because I just can't stand listening to screaming, but this album just freaking rocks.
Damn. These guys are a cut above most of the bands that are out these days. For being so young, their musicianship is so well advanced it's hard to believe. They pay homage to their influences. These guys are serious, and they're about to break big-time. I'm looking for great things from Trivium in the future.
lol at the amount of comments. Trivium are a very bad band. But i guess everyone has to have an opinion. And i feel much better about my self knowing i don't waste my time listening to this.
lol at the amount of comments. Trivium are a very bad band. But i guess everyone has to have an opinion. And i feel much better about my self knowing i don't waste my time listening to this.
I feel much better knowing there'll be one less person who doesn't appreciate hard work and talent, buying a ticket to the next show they do...
I dont know why all of you are bashing some talented people. Its not your band at all so what do you care what they sound like. If you dont like it then you dont have to listen to it. They arent that old so they still have stuff to learn.
love the album, especially Detonation and Tread the Floods, started d-loading some old trivium stuff, sorry to all you huge trivium fans and trivum (Cory, you are my guitar hero, along side dan jacobs of atreyu) but i was not too impressed with old trivium, not the greatest. but pretty much loved this album,
I can't wait for this band to vanish like every other trend. I really don't see any talent in this metalcore band.
Is this guy a Phil wannabe, because I'm sorry but Trivium are the next phase in the history of metal, they are setting a bar that many will jump for but will fall short of..
trivium are barely iin their 20's. early 20's. matt is 20 corey is 22 paolo is 21 i think and travis is 24. damn@ at that age, common, they are touring with iron maiden!, they released 3 albums! they are now being in every guitar, drum and bass magazine! their idols like their music! you know what.....anyone who say trivium doenst have talent.....are retarted. seriously wey! and trivium are thrash! ok! they said it so! and also cause it says on their myspace page! and metallica? my opinion. is not that good. seriously! end of story!
Ok album. some good, some not so good, slightly dissapointing but worth a listen.
Biggest flaw has nothing to do with singing vs screaming, heafey's voice sounds just fine. Yes it sounds a lot like hetfield, the metallica similarities end there, get over it. If we're talking about a lack of ferociousness and intensity that the band had before, its been lost at much more fundamental level than just the vocals alone..
It IS mostly the vocals that screw this album up though.. The vocals all through 'Ignition' make me wince, alternating between boring to just plain wanky and awful... The slower punk rocky sections and breakdown in contempt breeds contamination dont work for me either.
Some of it works, some of it doesnt. The album's instrumental is pretty uninspiring, but i quite enjoy Entrance Of The Conflagration and Detonation, so for them alone its probably worth a listen.
For fans, just dont expect the rest of it to be on par with your expectations from ember to inferno and ascendancy, because its not, unless you didnt like the band in the first place and are just swept away by their completely different sound like some people probably are.
chinga sus madres! this is so annoying! all of you who just come in her and say triviums sucks blah blah are freaking pathetic! seriously. and if you dont like their music.....to bad! thats the way they are gonna sound from now one.....hopefully.....i love trivium and i think they have alot of talent. especially at their age.....
agree with you all the way man they are the best new age metal band!!
i'm have this album, i've listened to the album pretty well constantly since i bought it. I have to say that it is absolutely mind-blowing.
Matt Heafy is definitely one of my idols now...his solos on this album are phenomenal. I love it.
They are breathing new life into metal as we all kno it and I think its great
I would also like the add that the tone on this album is GORGEOUS! If i could have tone like any other guitar player(s), it would be Trivium from this album!!!!
actually I dont deathbyemail. I see a humble band, at least through matt heafy. I tend to remember a little interview he did with guitar world a while back, talking about how he doesn't want to be banging groupies left and right. How he wants to keep faithful to one girlfriend. That wasnt just rubbish. My current girlfriend (but not then at the time) and myself, along with a few other friends went to see Trivium in concert, afterwards we all went to get autographs and talk to the members and whatever. My girlfriend is not a bad lookin girl in the slightest and she oh so sweetly requested a small kiss from mr. heafy. he smiled and politely declined. I think that shows plenty dang good humility. Also, learn how to spell Enormous.
ALL YOU PEOPLE DISSING TRIVIUM HERE WHY R U DOING IT IF U DONT LIKE THEM AT ALL THEN THAT DOESNT MEAN THAT YOU SHOULD GO SAY THEIR BAD AND GAY AND STUFF
Trivium pretty much rocks but seriously people, it took me nearly five minutes to get to here to post my comment after reading the first review!! Its awesome that everyone likes them a lot but come on, its not okay to love thom to death. Eric Clapton is like freakin god to me but you dont see me making a bajillion comments on all of the EC reviews and stuff man. But on a side (and slightly hypocritical) note, The Crusade is freakin awesome. I love it.
This Album was the shitest thing Ive eva heard when they said they were the next metallica they took it literally. The heavey metal media made this album like god or something it is a peice of shit if u own it BURN IT!!!!!
Well this album is a love it or hate it album. Some love it, some hate it. I agree that they have a Metallica sound but thats what music they like and grew up lissening to, so it is likely that they will sound sorta like them. Unrepentant does sound like Through the Never by Metallica which is a bit gay but i'll get over it. They havent sold out, they play what they like not whatyou like. I like this album, there are some bad songs but most albums have a weak point.
basically.
it was a good album. i miss the screaming matt had because he had a really good screaming voice but his new way of singing is really good too. i found them to sound a little bit like metallica but i think i would rather listen to trivium. i see alot of people are either hating or loving the album. it is good. See heres a thing about most other bands that we dont get from trivium.DRAMA.trivium makes music they play it but you dont have to constantly hear about what is going on in there band or what tour they got kicked off of because they were pissy. Trivium is an all around great band.
This Album was the shitest thing Ive eva heard when they said they were the next metallica they took it literally. The heavey metal media made this album like god or something it is a peice of shit if u own it BURN IT!!!!!
Its nice to actually see someone who agrees here. Every damn ass time i make a negative comment on this album, someone pipes up and calls me out on it. So there you traitors of good music, ETI Trivium RULES \m/
This Album was the shitest thing Ive eva heard when they said they were the next metallica they took it literally. The heavey metal media made this album like god or something it is a peice of shit if u own it BURN IT!!!!!
go get a life its the best album ever and ill neva burn my copy and trivium and metalica are different you cant compare themso every1 who h8s it can get a life
They probably sound like Iron Maiden, Metallica ETC. Because they were inspired by them. Im inspired by them, and Trivium. So the music I write seems to sound like the music they make. Make sense to you??
sorry for double posting but.. I love this album, Trivium have a really good sound, and Matt Heafy's vocals make the songs so much better. Trivium ROCK!!
trivium are a rubbish band, they may be able to play their instruments extremely well for their ages, but seriously.... can't you see there anourmous egos? if you can't, get your eyes tested.
I love Trivium and even if they do have big egos it doesnt make them a rubbish band. Metallica are a good band and Lars has one of the biggest egos in metal.
Trivium rule they did the best cover of MOP in the world... its actually a little better than metallicas version... I love metallica, bt trivium to me are more exciting... love them
This has to be among the most promising bands of this decade they really do what they do sounding real good and are really like among current bands Metallica (if the new album is like MoP) and Megadeth but not much else to compare with.
Heh that comment about Becoming the Dragon being the worst lyrically is a load of rubbish! Becoming the Dragon is one of the best lyrically - it's a chinese legend where a Koi Carp (Nishkigoi) climbs up a waterfall to become a dragon - the songs a metaphor for courage, perseverance and determination - showing how through these things you can become stronger than ever before! It's a DAMN GOOD SONG!
This has to be the worst ablum i have bought in a very long time, other than Messuggah's Nothing. NOT METAL, FALSE METAL.(Bangs head on keyboard repeatedly in frustraion at lack of musical taste in Crusade, false unconcious and bloody on desk, hits post button)
I don't see why people don't like this album. Personally, I think it shows much more talent and skill. It has brung back the golden age of metal. The only song that sounded like a classic song was Anthem, which is definitely Testament/Megadeth sounding. Matt's just using clean vocals, and they are great vocals, and Matt DOES NOT sound like James Hetfield. Everyone go take some singing lessons and see how similar you sound when you use clean vocals!!! I thank Trivium for bringing back true Thrash Metal.
Yes, I am a huge thrash fan, I've seen Metallica, Megadeth, and Slayer live recently (All of which I am a big fan of). I can confidently say Trivium is right up there with them.
Ascendency and Ember to Inferno are both good, but The Crusade is prue thrash.
Let me rephrase that. I absolutely love Ascendancy and Ember to Infero, partly cos Heafy's screaming is SICK. Without it Trivium are just another metal band and a bad one at that. The lyrics on The Crusade are awful, they're so simple and in your face and Oh god sooooo bad!
The songs Ignition, Entrance and the Crusade are good though.
But Heafy's voice..WTF?? He sound like a dying whale on crack!
i was really disappointed in this album.
ascendancy and ember to inferno were awesome original albums. this one however seems to be a case of writers block.
triviums saving grace for this album is their stage presence live, i even liked these new songs live.
Lol. So much fighting! Heres my take:
Its a very good record. I don't think it sounds anything like Metallica, personally, and Metallica are my favorite band. I think Matt Heafy is a very good vocalist, and that he and Corey Bealiuea are very inventive guitarists. I also think Travis Smith is an excellent drummer. But...
...As excited as I was when I bought this record, I quickly grew tired of it. In fact, I grow tired of most modern metal very quickly. The thing is, as good as they are, and as cool as this record is, it somewhat fails to keep your attention. Now, when I bought this, I must have listened to it for like, 6 weeks straight. This record CAN BE the shit, if you want it to be. But Metallica still beats them. Megadeth still beats them. But, for god's sake, Trivium are an excellent band, and they very much deserve praise for what they do, which is borrow from almost every metal band formed before 1990. I would give this record an 8/10.
I used to love Trivium so much, back then(2003-2005) they were my favorite band. But since they turn into Metallica, I can't listen to any song but "The Crusade." This album would have been so good if Matt hadn't quit screaming. I also was so sad when I heared the solos for this album, There solos were so good in the last two albums, but now all they are is really fast Alt. picking. This record was one of the bigest wastes of talent I've ever seen.
first fag and sadness will sear is the best song on the album i think any way this album was mainly a disappointment for me but that song gave me something so the album wasn't a waste of money
This album is good I guess but Matt's singing just totally sucks on half the songs and the lyrics really suck now. The guitars are still really awesome and stuff but I kinda like the drop d tuning because it just sounds heavier. I wish he would scream again. I wouldn't care if he sang like dying in your arms but his new singing isn't really melodic, it just sounds like some guy yelling. Other than the crappy singing and lyrics, this album is still good. 7/10
I used to love Trivium so much, back then(2003-2005) they were my favorite band. But since they turn into Metallica, I can't listen to any song but "The Crusade." This album would have been so good if Matt hadn't quit screaming. I also was so sad when I heared the solos for this album, There solos were so good in the last two albums, but now all they are is really fast Alt. picking. This record was one of the bigest wastes of talent I've ever seen.
So just cutting out the supposed "Hetfield" vocals would had made this album so good is that what you’re saying? If he screamed everything would have been ok?
I'm sorry dude grow up. And how the hell is this one of the biggest wastes of talent you've ever seen? Go listen to the Anthem (We are the fire) solo and tell me that's not talent. I'd like to see you play that solo or much less create it! There are other types of vocals other than just screaming and he pulled it off quite well. It's complete bull**** that some of you people think since they made a reference to being the next Metallica, you are looking at every opportunity to try pick apart their "riffs" and say they sound like Pantera, or this Metallica era, or that Metallica era. I bet if they never made a reference to Metallica being their largest influence, half of you wouldn't be spewing this thrash metal Metallica ripoff garbage, because in reality, they are really not as alike as some of you guys forced into your brains a long time ago. You don’t have to like these guys, but can you really deny the talent in their music? They have beautiful, melodic solos on many of their songs that are more than just “Alt picking”. Srysly people, go ahead and state your opinions, but at least make them respectable and hold some fact or truth in it. Jeeeez!
Metallicaman i agree with you "avenged_7_fold" wtf r u saying? trivium is a great band and even if they sound like metallica or whatever u shouldn't be dissing them, and the other fact is i hate screamo, i hate everybody who screams in music cuz it sounds so shit and u may not agree with it but just becuz mat isn't screaming doesn't mean this album was an "waste of talent", let's see u do something half as sucessfull.
this band is awesome, but this cd isnt on my "i like this cd" list. only song i can listen to is ignition, catchy ass chorus. ohh and the solo section in becoming the dragon is too cool to deny. i also understand where a7fold is comin from, it feels like a big step back from ascendancy imo. he had nice screamage skills (like light to the flies). and i completely (along with other people, maybe not you) dislike his new style of sing. damnit everytime i write somethin i remember another song i like from the album, lol, like the crusade, entrance of the conflagration, and to the rats.
Like i said in my review, It would've been an incredible album but the lyrics and some of the solos seemed really rushed. Then again, Matt's never been quite the lyricist. The new singing style is ok but i think he's still getting used to writing songs in the new voice.
''It's an obscenely brave and ambitious end to a glorious collection of songs that seems destined to cement Trivium's reputation as the heaviest, sharpest, smartest and hardest working band of their generation.''
I almost died laughing, you're kidding right?
I mean, they are popular but without a doubt nowhere near the heaviest, sharpest smartest of hardest working band... Why do people search for icon's of their generation's subculture and then praise them into heaven?
A lot people like them, that sums up Trivium and this albums along with it...
i dont get it how people say "aw i wish they would scream again" and others say "they sound too much like metallica", newsflash: ONE SONG SOUNDS LIKE METALLICA ONE SONG!!!!! and that is entrance of the conflagration, which is still a pretty good song musically, the rest of the album is a mix of many different styles of metal, ascendancy was a great album but it sounded too much like they were trying to sound like the "big bands" at the time (eg killswitch engage, shadows fall, god forbid etc.) except with more technical guitar-work and more variety instead of the same riff idea over and over, the crusade on the other hand sounds like a bunch of 80s, 90s and 00s subgenres and mixin them with each other, i mean compare and sadness will sear with ignition, 2 very different styles, but you can still tell its trivium, many people say theyre just a thrash metal band, its not as simple as that, one of the aforementioned songs is slow and depressing while the other is fast and raw, unlike a lotta bands you hear now, the cruade has variety, and its not just one type of metal, its many styles of metal blended together to make an awesome album, and id like to see you guys write an album that even comes close to this....
k i know many people before have posted somethiing like this but seriously
if you dont like trivium why are you reading this review and writing comments saying blah blah they sound like metallica and they do this n that;
who gives a damn?
i think trivium is great, hell they're my number one influence to me n my guitar
those guys pull of some awesome sounds.
i would gladly defend trivium to the death.
and really how can anyone say oh they sound like these 3 bands and shit like that..
dude watch one of the interviews with jon from shadows fall...he even said alot of his songs have come from just jammin along with the radio tryin to figure it out...he ****ed that up but made his own kickass song outta it, so obviously its gunna sound like something else out there. alot of newer bands these days have forgotten the art of the solo..matt n corey, make it sound perfect.n who gives a damn about they sound like this kinda genre? its good music,
i didnt go through all these comments but one person here i can say maybe has a brain is Metallicaman42, id like to say that if you want the right to say triviums new album was a waste of talent; i give you the same length trivium took to write the crusday, and hand me and play me 13 amazing ****ing songs, if you can make a new album with simalir skill to trivium...i will shut up, go into a hole for the rest of my life and everything i own will be yours,
so either get over yourselves or go home.
ya know, this pisses me off. in the last review, the dude said this:
"There is, however, one track with good lyrics and that track is And Sadness Will Sear, these lyrics are so depressing but so true, it actually makes me feel pain for William Shepard, and not many song lyrics can actually move me."
The young man who was beaten to death while tied to a fence's name was MATT Shepard, not WILLIAM. that's really ironic, if you think about it. not knowing his real name when you talk about what happened to him is extremely disrespectful. it's like saying, "oh yeah, i really feel for that one guy... ya know, that what's-his-name guy! yeah, that's him!" that's really f*cking ignorant.
i don't listen to trivium, but:
i found a sleeve of this on the ground of my local cd shop, and it's signed by all the members of the band in silver sharpie.
Mediocre band from whatI've heard of them, the song The Crusade is pretty sick. Heafy sounds like hes trying to do a personalized Hetfield immitation. Their albums all suck regardless due to the fact that they don't have enough BASSS!!!!
Oh, and also, I have yet to hear a Trivium song that I don't absolutely love. When I first heard this album, I was a little dissapointed by the lack of screaming, but then I listened to them a little bit more, and now I actually like some of these songs better than a few off of Ascendancy. However, I still think that overall Ascendancy and Ember to Emferno were better albums.
Shakalum :
i don't listen to trivium, but:
i found a sleeve of this on the ground of my local cd shop, and it's signed by all the members of the band in silver sharpie.
what the hell? is this shit worth something?
Hey man, if toilet paper ever runs out in your house then at least you've got some backup - you know what to do.
I dont give a damn if they do sound like metallica wannabes. i looked them up one day and i found out that these guys are less then half of metallicas age and both corey and matt probably have more talent than kirk hammett. matt is only 20, not even old enough to buy himself beer. corey is 22. travis smith is 24. and paolo is only 21. they are all kickass musicians.
-Dude, did you forget that metallica started out at around the same age as them? Metallica didn't start a few years ago, they started 26 years ago..
"dimebagisgr8 :
this album is a million times better than MOP"
-Hmm...What was that? - No.
"Rolling Stone magazine ranked Master of Puppets at number 167 on its list of the 500 greatest albums of all time"
If 'the crusade' was so good then surely it would've been on there beating metallica's mop.
"Shredboy :
Trivium rule they did the best cover of MOP in the world... its actually a little better than metallicas version..."
-Hmm...What was that? - No.
You do realise that you idiots have created another, "Band vs. Metallica" thing here. Just like what happened with "Metallica vs. Megadeth", it has started again with, "Metallica vs. Trivium".
trivium are a rubbish band, they may be able to play their instruments extremely well for their ages, but seriously.... can't you see there anourmous egos? if you can't, get your eyes tested.
u mean enormous?
and no i saw them at family values tour and they were the only main stage band to meet anyone who wanted to see them (and u didn't have to buy any of their merchandise) ego?? don't think so
Okay, for the people who are argueing over genres,
I agree with some other guy,
You are ****ing idiots
I mean I think Labelling Music kind of recks it,
Like i don't have anything against it and i wouldn't want to stop labelling it its just that
people are ****ing idiots and think 'oh here, i listen to death metal so i cant listen to slayer, cos theyre not in my genre'
Like ****, i listen to ****in' Jay Z, the kooks [quite catchy] and blink182,
But i also listen to cannibal corpse, Job for a cowboy annihilator, slayer,metallica, trivium... all that, you people are idiots,
Just enjoy your music
I think that 'Anthem' sound just like iron maiden!
alright, have you ever listened to an Iron Maiden song? at no time would i ever think that it sounds even remotely like Iron Maiden. oh, and the song sucks. iron Maiden is one of the best metal bands of all time. it's a disgrace to compare the two.
I doubt he meant the whole song sounds like Maiden.
In my opinion the first 20 seconds sound a bit like it.
I bought this album about a week ago and I was very impressed.... Sort of a tribute to early metal from the eighties (Metallica, Maiden, Megadeth, Slayer etc...) Now, I could be accused as being a bandwagon hopper cuz I wasn't into Trivium until just recently but when I first hear "Entrance of the Conflagration" I knew I had to buy this album... Dont really like "Ignition" all that much....The stretched out vocals kinda piss me off...still awesome guitar....The first half of detonation in kewl but the second half of the song is just un-****in-believable, so emotional and powerful...."Entrance of the Conflagration" is probably my favorite track on the album, just soooo solid, the riffs are bone crushing....anyway, I could go on and on but your probably getting tired of reading this and i'm sure as hell tired of writing it...anyway, very solid album, thumbs way up...
wow. majority of you are total morons. i registered on UG just so i could yell at you idiots.
for one thing, about trivium saying that they want to be the "next metallica" doesnt mean they LITERALLY want to be them. if you how to analyze people's words correctly you would know what they mean. they want to be the next big metal band like metallica WAS back in the hay day. they want to revive metal back to the point where every big metal band was playing in sold out arenas, not smaller venues like the house of blues, or your local small theater. THATS what theu meant by "being the next metallica"
ok, so there are simaliarties to matt's vocal stylings to hetfields. but did any of you know he went to a trainer to learn to sing better? he went to a vocal coach who has helped other big acts help keep their vocals in check such as arch enemy's singer. did it also occur to you that hetfield IS a big influence in his music? everyone has their influences, and odds are they WILL rub off on them. im sure all of you musicans know what im talking about. little elements will come into your style of playing of your biggest influences. thats WHY their your influences, cause you dig their sound and you would like to take a little piece and mesh it into your own stuff, making YOUR style.
indeed bands like metallica and in flames "sold out" on their fans by having a more mainstream sound. how would you feel if it felt like you were writing the same album over and over, and it was no longer intresting? they just want their music to be spread over a bigger audience but they also try and keep their "core" fans because they are their most trusted fans. how do you think the band feels when they lose those die hard fans by "selling out" by trying to keep it intresting for them,a and for the listeners. if anything, that just makes YOU selfish. bands will change, and if you cant accept that, then listen to you "kill 'em all" and what ever the hell you listen to over and over until you feel better about yourself and your taste of music.
and for another thing. they DIDNT LIKE THE VOCALS IN THE FIRST PLACE. they WANTED to switch to the clean because they LIKED IT MORE. read some interviews about it. Paolo even touches on the subject himself. again, THEY DIDNT LIKE THE VOCALS ON ASCENDANCY OR EMBER TO INFERNO. if you dont like it, shove it up your ass, and YOU sing for trivium.
since everyone seems to compare metallice to trivium ill use another example.
metallica uses ALOT of power chords. i mean, ALOT. look at 'master of puppets', 'fight fire with fire' 'one'(if you look at the shape of the little acoustic piece it IS a power chord) "fade to black"(same deal), "welcome home (sanitarium)" (again same deal) its mostly power chords. trivium DOES use powerchords, but they are VASTLY more technical to their icons. not saying they are better guitar players, but their music says more than metallicas ever could. thats another big difference. and heafy does waaaay more melodies than hetfield ever did. even BEFORE 'the crusade' came out.
and i like how everyone keeps calling them 'metalcore' when other than the vocals, nothing about their music gives off metal core. theres no breakdowns, theirs no insanley fast double bass. for god sakes theirs not blasts beats, low growls, or high screams. if you are to call a band a genre at least KNOW what the genre sounds like. these mainstream "metalcore bands" i.e. killswitch engage, unearth arnt real metalcore. they have the metal sound mixed with something else, but that doesnt make them metalcore. trivium's plan was never "lets go metalcore" it was "lets go be metal". they hate the 'metalcore' label and if u where their fans you would know that.
PERSONALLY i like ascendancy better. but i dont believe in bands selling out. ever. i look at it from THEIR standpoint and appreciate what they do. i love 'the crusade' and it did excede my expectations, but it was not as good as i hoped it would be. ascendancy is better in my opinion, as are the vocals on that as well. but i can appreciate what they have done, and i still enjoy the new sound as much as i did the old.
because im a real fan, and i dont "sellout" on the bands i listen to.
yes, another intelligent person to argue. i respect what you're saying man, and i'm not gonna bash you, i just hope you're not one of those people that get butt hurt if i disagree.
anyway, for a band like trivium to say something like "we wanna be the next metallica..." i'm sure they must haveknown what they were sayin...either that or they're idiots not to know how that statement would be taken or how much it's gonna stick to people. i'm not even kidding, i can't read about them anywhere without them being referred to as the new metallica, the new guitar world says somthin like "the crusade is the best metallica album that metallica never made..." i bet you a million bucks, if trivium never said anything about wanting to be the next metallica, they wouldn't be refered to by so many as the next metallic
Anyway, I respect what he's saying, but I'm sure by "We want to be the next Metallica," they meant they want to be as -successful- as them, as big as them, the metal band that everyone listens to; ironically, saying that seemed to have caused the opposite to happen.
Is it a crime to want to be successful ? The point of music is expression, yes, but to make it in the music industry, those expressions have to sell.
i dont think they said it, I think people started saying they were the next Metallica...then magazines got the idea to post it...and yah...i dont know that's my view on it..
I dont give a damn if they do sound like metallica wannabes. i looked them up one day and i found out that these guys are less then half of metallicas age and both corey and matt probably have more talent than kirk hammett. matt is only 20, not even old enough to buy himself beer. corey is 22. travis smith is 24. and paolo is only 21. they are all kickass musicians.
-Dude, did you forget that metallica started out at around the same age as them? Metallica didn't start a few years ago, they started 26 years ago..
"dimebagisgr8 :
this album is a million times better than MOP"
-Hmm...What was that? - No.
"Rolling Stone magazine ranked Master of Puppets at number 167 on its list of the 500 greatest albums of all time"
If 'the crusade' was so good then surely it would've been on there beating metallica's mop.
"Shredboy :
Trivium rule they did the best cover of MOP in the world... its actually a little better than metallicas version..."
-Hmm...What was that? - No.
You do realise that you idiots have created another, "Band vs. Metallica" thing here. Just like what happened with "Metallica vs. Megadeth", it has started again with, "Metallica vs. Trivium".
You suck.
-Thanks.
I never vision them topping Metallica or getting to that level but I couldn't care less to me they sound as thrash as the big 4 for the most part and are very listen able and I could go on with comparisons and I just enjoy they introduce new good metal songs.
Never in my whole life did I ever think Trivium would become such a target for flaming. This nearly rivals some pop artists.
Seriously, get a life. They've sent out the album, its not half bad (in fact, its actually rather sweet!) and as far as I'm concerned, we need to take some of these genres back to their roots anyway.
Good on you Trivium. Now that you've proven you can do this sound, evolve again in the next album.
I absolutely love Trivium, however they will never be another metallica. I do think that alot of people have jumped on the band wagon with regards to them sounding like metallica. I can't hear it at all, and i agree with some people on here that have said that half of you wouldn't be saying this shit, if Matt hadn't commented on Metallica being their biggest influences.
Btw. I think some of your flaming should be directed at "musicians" that deserve it. Like MCR, Green Day, and bollocks like that, that some people call music. AND for the people who think that Billie Joe Armstrong is the "best guitar player in the world". Seriously guys, move on.
To everybody thinking Trivium is too much up their own asses, they're really not.
Its just Matt Heafy, and he's not really an *******. When you actually pay attention to his interviews, hes not saying he IS the next Metallica, hes saying that his dream was to be playing on large stages, and to somebody be the NEXT Metallica, not as in sound, but the amouont of influence.
Some songs are pretty good, but most of the album is pretty bad. As if they rushed through it and just wanted to be just a little bit too much like their idols.
And besides, who cares what they sound like, THEY play in THEIR band. THEY play what THEY want and if YOU don't like it. DON'T listen to it! It's thát simple!
If you want a different sound, join your own band and do your own stuff...
yeah his vox did sound a lot like hetfield. but if you look at really recent vids of them live, matt's voice is different and actually original, with the basis of the hetfield style of course
I just wish people would listen to this album without considering previous works of Trivium because comparing this album to their other albums is stupid. Just enjoy it without compairing.
I just wish people would listen to this album without considering previous works of Trivium because comparing this album to their other albums is stupid. Just enjoy it without compairing.
What? Don't compare it to their other albums.. so what can we compare it to? Iron Maiden? Metallica? Sure coz comparing bands to other bands makes more sense than comparing bands to their other works. Knob.
I wasn't impressed with this album at all. It was a Metallica rip off clearly and many people have stated that. But at that, their old stuff I really liked(well guess it's not that old, but before this). After hearing Ascendancy I was pumped about this album... big let down.
Matt also said in Total Guitar Magazine last January "No one uses it anymore so we thought we would try and be different"-and needless to say, the tuning seems a bit more, ah, "metal." Oh and brilliant cover artwork as well.
yeah, doing something to be 'metal' isnt why people hate trivium at all...
i like Ascendancy, but the songs i heard off this werent anything to cream your pants about. they ought to just stop trying to be 'metal' and just do what they do best, write metalcore songs, since their a metalcore band. no way around it.
OMG, Trivium were never "metalcore" they ARE thrash. Its idiots like you who label them as "metalcore".
TRIVIUM FOREVER
are you serious? ascendancy and ember are definitely metalcore, or hardcore..... the cusade is the only thing remotely close to thrash
Ok album. some good, some not so good, slightly dissapointing but worth a listen.
Biggest flaw has nothing to do with singing vs screaming, heafey's voice sounds just fine. Yes it sounds a lot like hetfield, the metallica similarities end there, get over it. If we're talking about a lack of ferociousness and intensity that the band had before, its been lost at much more fundamental level than just the vocals alone..
It IS mostly the vocals that screw this album up though.. The vocals all through 'Ignition' make me wince, alternating between boring to just plain wanky and awful... The slower punk rocky sections and breakdown in contempt breeds contamination dont work for me either.
Some of it works, some of it doesnt. The album's instrumental is pretty uninspiring, but i quite enjoy Entrance Of The Conflagration and Detonation, so for them alone its probably worth a listen.
For fans, just dont expect the rest of it to be on par with your expectations from ember to inferno and ascendancy, because its not, unless you didnt like the band in the first place and are just swept away by their completely different sound like some people probably are.
its kinda wierd. I loved the crusade, but ascendancy's screaming kind of grew on me. Theres just places that you can go with screamo that you cant go to with thrash, and vice versa. Good albums botht tho.
jesus, dont be all tough with a keyboard - if you dont like the band - fine - everyone has an opinion
if you dont like the new album - trivium didnt say you have to listen to it
if you like the band and new album, just say it
people arent wrong - their opinions just differ, its human life.
i completely agree but i would like to add if you dont like trivium - why the **** are you here?
its kind of like why a few hundred thousand people here in the west are going to but the next metallica album... To see if anythings changed. People are entitled to their opinion, and the right to voice it. The degree that some people go to however, is disguisting. They dont bother to explain why they dont like it. Its like saying, "Canada sucks because its canada!: Makes no sense.
wow this album is by far my favorite from Trvium i wasnt to big of a fan on there first 2 albums because of the screaming but i got used to it but when this album came out i was like hell ya and i loved this album from the begining to the end Detonation by far ny fav song this album
and for those people who said they are to overrated umm then how come i know only 1 other person that thinks trivium rocks and everone else asks me who they are? idk why u r here to be bashing on a band..
i got this album for christmas last year. the crusade is a great song,entrance of the conflagration is not bad, and anthem(we are the fire) is ok. other than that i find a lot of it sounds just plain bad. i havent heard a whole lot of triviums earlier stuff, but none of this album lives up to Gunshot to the head of trepadation. i find a lot of it sounds pretty bad, and kinda just fills up the album. wouldn't reccomend this album at all, except for the crusade, which is worth a good listen.
Everyone is so stupid. Have some damn respect. When you make a metal band as successful and talented, then you can bash them.
These guys are awesome, and I have to agree with most that I thought Ember to inferno and Ascendency were better than The Crusade, but damn its still good. When I first heard Pillar of Serpents I thought they were bad ass, and after hearing Entrance of the Conflagration, I still think they're good.
And when I first heard Heafy's new vocals, I was amazed at how well he pulled it off. Hey, at least it doesn't sound like he's "screaming boat rudder strange mountain" instead of "pull harder on the strings of your martyr".
OK so I just don't really understand how any of you people can sit there and say that Ascendancy is so original and that The Crusade isn't. How many metal bands are out now that scream? Now how many metal bands are out now that sing? Yea, that's what I thought...think about shit before you say it people. I don't see anything wrong with wanting to be the next Metallica (if that means before St. Anger Metallica at least). If you were in a band, wouldn't you want to be as successful and comparable to Metallica? I know I would rather be compared to a band of Metallica's caliber rather than a band like Good Charlotte, wouldn't you?. Ember to Inferno is a very good album, Ascendancy is a very good album, and The Crusade is a very good album. Best albums in the history of music? Probably not, but it's still very very good music that I know that I, along with the rest of the people on this website could only wish they came up with. You can't bail on a band if your a so-called "fan" just because they want to change up their sound...they didn't sell out, they just wanted something different so they wouldn't become part of a trend like todays that wouldn't even be remembered by many people You don't have to scream to be a Metal band...deal with it. Also, Matt Heafy never wanted to be in a screaming band...it says so in a interview with him...he screamed because in is words "he couldn't sing for shit but wanted to be the singer in a band". I personally love The Crusade, I think it's much better than all of the generic screaming metal out today. I think all of their music is great, pre-screaming and post-screaming. I'm not bashing on bands that scream because they are good too...there's nothing wrong with screaming but if thats not what you want to do then that's just not what you want to do...there is no selling out in that. Also...another thing that I've noticed everywhere is how everybody claims that Metalcore isn't Metal.....if you would just sit back, eat a cookie, and take a second you would realized that the first part of Metalcore is in fact, Metal. Different type of Metal? Yes. But does that mean that it's not Metal? Of course not. People...enough with the genre bashing...if it's Metal then it's Metal, whether you like it or not it's gonna be that way till the end of time. If you don't agree with that then maybe your just not a true music fan and you just want to be part of a trend to make yourself feel better...but that's just one man's opinion...but I'm sure many of you may agree. That's all I gotta say about that so lates people. Oh and btw...Pull Harder is my favorite Trivium song..so I'm not biased towards either sound..but I can honestly say that I'd give my left nut to have the talent to be able to write and play any of their songs and make it look as easy as they do.
i agree with SndThePnBlw 100%
to just write and release the exact same thing over and over isn't great. being able to change and show versitility is wat makes the difference between a good band and a gr8 band, i no i would love to b able to write and play music the way these guys do
Lets think about it in this way. Something f*ck up in Matt's voice so he can't scream as much now. Seeing he still wants to be a lead singer in Trivium he has to just sing. But the point I'm trying to make is, maybe they had to soften their songs a bit, c'mon you wouldn't like to have a heavy song like "Pull Harder" and then hear him trying to sing as loud as he could, because whoevers seen trivium live lately then when matt sings on the old song it sucks, it doesnt go with the music. Also, they've released 2 album's thats heavy as shit, maybe they fancied a change.
anyway, i've lost respect for them because of what they said, because either:
1. they were trying to use the media to reach audiences and hope that their words would stick to 'em, and hope that their fans started referring to them as the next metallica (which is lame)
2. they really DO wanna be the next metallica (which is lame, there can never be another of another band)
3. they're idiots and didn't realize that what they said TO THE MEDIA would reach so many people (which is lame, because it's stupid, they should know that what's said to the media is 10 times stronger then what's said to anyone else.)
seriously, after this album (so long as you've heard both metallica and crusade) you can't deny that trivium sounds more like metallica than any other two bands sound like each other. trivium and metallica sound more like each other after the crusade than any other two bands i've ever heard.
yea, he changed his singing (to sound like hetfield in my opinion)... but forget about that right now, because you're completely ignoring the fact that as a BAND they changed everything, their drummer is actually cutting back a bit on double bass, their music completely changed, it's thrashier. they even jam like metallica did non stage, heafy even had a hetfield sorta beard for awhile. they're goin to far.
look, completely aside from them sounding like metallica, i still dont respect them anymore. i've been around music all my life, i know it's purpose, and i know what i'm talkin about. i feel as though if i were to sit in on one of their practices while they were makin up as song, they'd probably say stuff like "put this riff there, that riff here, put that drum beat over that bass line cuz it sounds f*ckin badass!!!" as opposed to "put this riff there, that riff here, put that drum beat over that bass line cuz it inspires the feeling and thought that i want it to"
you guys, there are way better bands out ther, i won't mention any of which i think are better, but it's still a fact that there are better. trivium as barely metal anyway, i don't think they should be given so much attention. much less, i don't think that if they ARE the one's to change metal, that it would be any good. there are much more bands out there with much more talent, and musical ability and understanding that do a much better job of creating music than trivium, i'm not mentioning any because i'm sure all you guys could easily find them for yourself.
so yea, i don't know if you'll agree with me, i doubt you will, but yea, hope you comment back dude, just curious to hear what you have to say, even if it's in total disagreeance with what i've said.
ahaha. finally someone who isnt as one sided as everyone else is >.>;;
ok so like, trivium is prolly the crappiest band i listen to honestly. im not going to deny they have an EXTREME closeness to metallica, since i used to be a die hard metallica fan (read their biographies [books], listened to them everyday, had 9 of their shirts)and i wont deny that a lot of their songs arent very original sounding i.e. anthem (we are the fire), the rising (sounds like maiden/def leppard esque). so, ive got your back on that subject. in orginality i give them an F on the crusade.
and his vox are definately like het's. but like i said earlier, big influences, yadayadayada. u have to admit, if u had never heard het's voice, his vocals would be amazing which they are. its just too bad he modeled them almost exactley like het's.
music isnt always about making something that has huge significance to people's mindset or feelings. some songs are just made to be bad ass. like, cannibal corpse. u cant really believe that they mean everything they say in their songs. or slayer, to quote tom araya "they are just words." but i do agree, trivium DOES need to eff off and get their own style instead of blending everyone elses. but i say they do what they feel is right and hopefully their next album wont be so bad.
but i do believe that their cd was more of a dedication to the bands they love. most likely the reason why they all sound like bands they are really into i.e megadeath(corey), metallica(heafy), def lepard(poalo), iron maiden(the band as a whole).
and i honestly was expecting blast beats in ignition and was seriously disapointed.
but the point is, in all honesty. dispite what everyone may claim about them and their suckiness ill stick by them and hope for the best. i believe they are wonderful musicans, its just they need to figure out what trivium really is. not what all their favorite bands are. and once they get that down, maybe they will release their own epic, instead of everyone elses. im just trying to prove a point that not everyone should just say they suck and not think of the process/effort that went into the album.
im in a band so i can relate to them. i know what its like to write a song, listen to it and say "shit that sounds like a slayer song" or "shit that sounds like amon [
wow. majority of you are total morons. i registered on UG just so i could yell at you idiots.
for one thing, about trivium saying that they want to be the "next metallica" doesnt mean they LITERALLY want to be them. if you how to analyze people's words correctly you would know what they mean. they want to be the next big metal band like metallica WAS back in the hay day. they want to revive metal back to the point where every big metal band was playing in sold out arenas, not smaller venues like the house of blues, or your local small theater. THATS what theu meant by "being the next metallica"
ok, so there are simaliarties to matt's vocal stylings to hetfields. but did any of you know he went to a trainer to learn to sing better? he went to a vocal coach who has helped other big acts help keep their vocals in check such as arch enemy's singer. did it also occur to you that hetfield IS a big influence in his music? everyone has their influences, and odds are they WILL rub off on them. im sure all of you musicans know what im talking about. little elements will come into your style of playing of your biggest influences. thats WHY their your influences, cause you dig their sound and you would like to take a little piece and mesh it into your own stuff, making YOUR style.
indeed bands like metallica and in flames "sold out" on their fans by having a more mainstream sound. how would you feel if it felt like you were writing the same album over and over, and it was no longer intresting? they just want their music to be spread over a bigger audience but they also try and keep their "core" fans because they are their most trusted fans. how do you think the band feels when they lose those die hard fans by "selling out" by trying to keep it intresting for them,a and for the listeners. if anything, that just makes YOU selfish. bands will change, and if you cant accept that, then listen to you "kill 'em all" and what ever the hell you listen to over and over until you feel better about yourself and your taste of music.
and for another thing. they DIDNT LIKE THE VOCALS IN THE FIRST PLACE. they WANTED to switch to the clean because they LIKED IT MORE. read some interviews about it. Paolo even touches on the subject himself. again, THEY DIDNT LIKE THE VOCALS ON ASCENDANCY OR EMBER TO INFERNO. if you dont like it, shove it up your ass, and YOU sing for trivium.
since everyone seems to compare metallice to trivium ill use another example.
metallica uses ALOT of power chords. i mean, ALOT. look at 'master of puppets', 'fight fire with fire' 'one'(if you look at the shape of the little acoustic piece it IS a power chord) "fade to black"(same deal), "welcome home (sanitarium)" (again same deal) its mostly power chords. trivium DOES use powerchords, but they are VASTLY more technical to their icons. not saying they are better guitar players, but their music says more than metallicas ever could. thats another big difference. and heafy does waaaay more melodies than hetfield ever did. even BEFORE 'the crusade' came out.
and i like how everyone keeps calling them 'metalcore' when other than the vocals, nothing about their music gives off metal core. theres no breakdowns, theirs no insanley fast double bass. for god sakes theirs not blasts beats, low growls, or high screams. if you are to call a band a genre at least KNOW what the genre sounds like. these mainstream "metalcore bands" i.e. killswitch engage, unearth arnt real metalcore. they have the metal sound mixed with something else, but that doesnt make them metalcore. trivium's plan was never "lets go metalcore" it was "lets go be metal". they hate the 'metalcore' label and if u where their fans you would know that.
PERSONALLY i like ascendancy better. but i dont believe in bands selling out. ever. i look at it from THEIR standpoint and appreciate what they do. i love 'the crusade' and it did excede my expectations, but it was not as good as i hoped it would be. ascendancy is better in my opinion, as are the vocals on that as well. but i can appreciate what they have done, and i still enjoy the new sound as much as i did the old.
because im a real fan, and i dont "sellout" on the bands i listen to.
yes, another intelligent person to argue. i respect what you're saying man, and i'm not gonna bash you, i just hope you're not one of those people that get butt hurt if i disagree.
anyway, for a band like trivium to say something like "we wanna be the next metallica..." i'm sure they must haveknown what they were sayin...either that or they're idiots not to know how that statement would be taken or how much it's gonna stick to people. i'm not even kidding, i can't read about them anywhere without them being referred to as the new metallica, the new guitar world says somthin like "the crusade is the best metallica album that metallica never made..." i bet you a million bucks, if trivium never said anything about wanting to be the next metallica, they wouldn't be refered to by so
HAHAHAHA Anyone who's dissing this album is incredibly ignorant of good music, because that's what this is. i bought a seven-string guitar just so i could play the songs on this album, because this album RULES!
OK so I just don't really understand how any of you people can sit there and say that Ascendancy is so original and that The Crusade isn't. How many metal bands are out now that scream? Now how many metal bands are out now that sing? Yea, that's what I thought...think about shit before you say it people. I don't see anything wrong with wanting to be the next Metallica (if that means before St. Anger Metallica at least). If you were in a band, wouldn't you want to be as successful and comparable to Metallica? I know I would rather be compared to a band of Metallica's caliber rather than a band like Good Charlotte, wouldn't you?. Ember to Inferno is a very good album, Ascendancy is a very good album, and The Crusade is a very good album. Best albums in the history of music? Probably not, but it's still very very good music that I know that I, along with the rest of the people on this website could only wish they came up with. You can't bail on a band if your a so-called "fan" just because they want to change up their sound...they didn't sell out, they just wanted something different so they wouldn't become part of a trend like todays that wouldn't even be remembered by many people You don't have to scream to be a Metal band...deal with it. Also, Matt Heafy never wanted to be in a screaming band...it says so in a interview with him...he screamed because in is words "he couldn't sing for shit but wanted to be the singer in a band". I personally love The Crusade, I think it's much better than all of the generic screaming metal out today. I think all of their music is great, pre-screaming and post-screaming. I'm not bashing on bands that scream because they are good too...there's nothing wrong with screaming but if thats not what you want to do then that's just not what you want to do...there is no selling out in that. Also...another thing that I've noticed everywhere is how everybody claims that Metalcore isn't Metal.....if you would just sit back, eat a cookie, and take a second you would realized that the first part of Metalcore is in fact, Metal. Different type of Metal? Yes. But does that mean that it's not Metal? Of course not. People...enough with the genre bashing...if it's Metal then it's Metal, whether you like it or not it's gonna be that way till the end of time. If you don't agree with that then maybe your just not a true music fan and you just want to be part of a trend to make yourself feel better...but that's just one man's opinion...but I'm sure many of you may agree. That's all I gotta say about that so lates people. Oh and btw...Pull Harder is my favorite Trivium song..so I'm not biased towards either sound..but I can honestly say that I'd give my left nut to have the talent to be able to write and play any of their songs and make it look as easy as they do.
Dude thank you there are way too many trivium haters. But I disagree that their screaming on ascendancy was un original. Nothing like ascendancy had ever been done before. I love metal bands that can fuking scream but i also love the singing. in fact my three favorite bends are machine head, trivium, and killswitch engage, and those bands all sing and scream
mmmm....saaaaandwich *drools* and Im not saying that they weren't original on Ascendancy...there aren't many bands that can sound like that and if they can it just doesn't even come close to sounding as good...just that if they kept doing that same sound over and over on every cd like every other band does....then that would be pretty un-original and uninspired music. But yea they would still pretty much kick ass if all they did was sing or all they did was sing...being able to do both and do them pretty damn good just shows their range of talent. but yea...dems just my 2 cents...i gotta get back to work haha.
trivium needs to decide wether or not they are a thrash band or a metalcore screamo band. This album was very confusing. songs like detonation and ignition start thrashy and ****in fantastic, but then comes the whiny singing and all that crap.
I really enjoy this album. Being a mainly thrash metal fan and still liking ascendancy I was excited to hear about Trivium's new album before it was released. When I picked it up I was not disappointed. The first half of this album really impressed me, and while latter half was still very good, it wasn't quite as memorable. Everyone in the band knows how to play their instruments very well and it shows. The only thing I'm iffy about are the lyrics, they often seem cheesy and not very inspired(this doesn't distract much at all except for around minute 2:46 on the song "Anthem"...). If you like Trivium and/or thrash I suggest buying this album. 8.5/10
this cd owns...idc what people say about the metallica comparison...metallica's prime was the stuff like ride the lighting, kill em all, and its also my fav. by metallica..but the truth is metallica isnt doing anything thing right now and their last attempt at it failed...St.Anger sucked major ass...Trivium has brought back metallicas glory days better than the legends themselves so far imo..i just hope this new stuff that metallica is working on proves me wrong
Anthem is crap. Detonation is crap. The Crusade is the lamest instrumental track in the history of the world. The Storm is the only tolerable song on the new CD and that's just barely. Matt can't sing. Go see them live and you'll believe me. For all you people like me that loved songs like Suffocating Sight and Like Light to Flies, it sucks but those days are gone and they're never coming back. Unearth has filled the hole Trivium left behind for me.
I'll miss ember to inferno and ascendancy !
the old trivium is never coming back !
i met matt heafy at namm, he was the biggest prick there maybe the only one. In fact i thought he said this in one interview that it took years for metallica to get where their at now....but its only going to take way less than that for trivium, kinda big headed there matt eh?
The album in my opinion was alright. It was a step in a good direction, but they haven't quite gotten there yet, whatever "there" is. But still, they're making good progress.
i'm interested to listen to their new album coming out this year just to see what direction they've decided to go - forward or back to "classic trivium".
