Released: Nov 9, 2010
Genre: Metalcore
Label: Solid State, Tooth & Nail, Roadrunner
Number Of Tracks: 11
Underoath has recorded a strong album — it's experimental — but never so ambient that it's unfocused.
Ø (Disambiguation)Featured review by: UG Team, on november 12, 2010 8 of 8 people found this review helpful
Sound: Ø Disambiguation is an impressive album from the opening track, In Division. Underoath’s sound is known to the band’s fans, but for those of you who don’t know, Often genrelised as metalcore, Underoath is so much more, proving themselves to be capable of writing not only powerful metalcore, but also good rock songs. Facing the departure of original member—drummer Aaron Gillespie—cannot have been easy. It’s easy to marginalise rock drummers, but as a chief song writer, the loss of Gillespie is in many ways a loss. In spite of that loss, the band has taken up the creative gauntlet admirably.
Largely fuelled by new drummer—Daniel Davison’s (Norma Jean)—ferocity, Disambiguation is brimming with focus and energy. Although avoiding anything too spectacular, Davison provides the foundation upon which the band builds. The ensuing fusillade of metal riffs and ambient experimentation represents one of the best recent efforts to make a mark on this genre. Multi-faceted songs such as the paranoid My Deteriorating Incline elicit a different observation with each listen. Perhaps the most fascinating aspect of this album is the interplay of the guitarists—McTague and Smith—and keyboardist DudleyThe album hits more highs than it does lows, often drawing the listener into a false sense of security, before abruptly proceeding to the next brutality it has in store.
In many ways, this is what makes Underoath such an attractive proposition. Embracing the new creativity in light of the departure of a major songwriter, the band has proceeded to record one of the best albums of 2010. The guitar work is so dramatically scripted to the overall atmosphere of the album, as can be heard on Vacant Mouth. It begins with a guitar riff verging on crescendo, pushing itself and the band to join in, and before it does, the listener knows what’s happening, much like a child getting in with the wrong crowd. Underoath might have a reputation for being a Christian band, but if secular bands played with the intensity that is on show on Vacant Mouth, they would be lauded. In the event, this is one of my favourite albums of 2010. // 7
Lyrics and Singing: Spencer Chamberlain makes this album with his vocals. They’re always full of intention, he has great diction, and he doesn’t sound whiny, unlike a lot of other bands in the genre. For fans of rock music in general, In Completion is the best rock song I have heard in many an album. Spencer Chamberlain really comes to life, in the process delivering one of the best vocal performances in a long while. // 7
Impression: After numerous line-up changes, it might be difficult for fans of Underoath to retain their interest in the band. Underoath deserves your attention, no matter your preconceptions about former line-ups. Disambiguation is an album with a lot on show, and you won’t want to miss it. // 7
Ø (Disambiguation)
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unregistered, on november 15, 2010 1 of 1 people found this review helpful
Sound: Underoath has been an ever-evolving band since it's conception. With this album, they have pushed the limits of what is possible for the genre of melodic metalcore. This is because this album is, well... not melodic at all. It sounds like Alice in Chains, Deftones, and Underoath of the past were thrown into a blender. This is most apparent of the opening track, "In Division", in which what starts out as a dissonant scream-fest descends into a sludgy, Layne Staley-esque chorus. Underoath has not added anything new in terms of instruments, but they have utilized what they already had in the past much better than ever before. Tracks such as "Who Will Guard the Guardians?" and "Catch Myself Catching Myself" are the closest Underoath gets to being catchy on this album, but much of the album is a sludgy, dissonant, brutal landmine of a record that flirts with chaos the entire time, staring dischord in the eye and adding just enough cohesion to keep the record together. It's a claustrophobic, spine-chilling album that demands your attention. The Highlight of this album is the hardcore punk/Deftones styled song "My Deteriorating Incline". Aaron Gillespie is not missed here. // 9
Lyrics and Singing: As many Underoath fans are aware, founding member Aaron Gillespie was the bands' clean vocalist and drummer up until this point. However, he is not missed here, as having only one vocalist gives the band some much-needed cohesion. Spencer Chamberlain proves himself a very capable clean vocalist, and seamlessly switches between harsh barks, piercing shrieks, and soaring clean vocals. Tihs is most apparent on the track "Vacant Mouth". However, Spencer stays true to his original role of unclean vocalist in the track "My Deteriorating Incline", which I previously mentioned. This track features no clean vocals at all, and it the heaviest song from Underoath in years, possibly since their debut "Act of Depression", although this is a completely different band. The theme of this album is not the two conflicting singers this time around, but sole vocalist Spencer Chamberlains' personal demons, mostly his previous addictions and the recovery, feelings of simultaneous need and regret for the past, and the Christian-based lyrics, while still present, are much less apparent. Overall, Spencer fills in the shoes of two vocalists just as well, if not better, alone. // 10
Impression: This album does not compare to other artists, because no other artist has created an album like this. It's definitively metalcore, but has a tendency to descend into sludginess and dark chaos. This album will make you feel like you're being watched, or even hunted. It is the equivolent of a drug, with all of the soaring highs and depressing crashes intact. I drove 50 miles just to pick up this album and I do not regret it at all. Underoath has outdone themselves and set an entirely new standard for metalcore and alt. metal artists everywhere. I look forward to seeing what this talented group of still-young musicians has to offer next. I hate nothing about this album. The breakdowns are always well-placed, the vocals are incredible, the intruments compliment eachother perfectly, and the production is top-notch. Possibly the best album of 2010. // 9
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Jako215, on november 12, 2010 3 of 7 people found this review helpful
Sound: Underoath's seventh studio album titled Ø or Disambiguation was released on Tuesday, November 9th. I have to say this is probably their best album yet. With Spencer Chamberlain becoming the groups only vocalist and Daniel Davison taking the kit for Aaron Gillespie, the group has not lost a step in their music. The initial vibe of the record is very heavy and slow. There are not many fast tunes on this record. With that in mind the main difference in the groups sound is Spencer's ability to sing. In my opinion Aaron's voice was a bit whiny. Spencer's singing on this record is very strong. Even though Spencer has sung before, on Disambiguation the parts where he is singing seem to be just right for him. Spencer really shines on the songs Catch Myself, Paper Lung, Driftwood, Who Will Guar, Vacant Mouth and In Completion. I think it's safe to say Underoath will survive without Aaron Gillespie. For the most part the group as a whole stayed true to the Underoath sound of the last two records. One the song My Detiorate the group is clearly channeling Every Time I Die. Infact the first time I heard that song I had to check my ITunes to see if I changed the song by accident. What sets Disambiguation apart from LITSOS and DTGL is the raw energy that is portrayed in this record. Disambiguation has an underlying grittiness too it. It does not seem flashy or big like the groups other albums. It very much seems like Underoath went to town and just made music. The record is more natural, and not forced. // 10
Lyrics and Singing: It will be interesting to see how Spencer will hold up for future albums. I never really though of Spencer as the main vocalist of the group. His singing style is a key seller on Disambiguation. With Aaron gone it will be interesting to see how Spencer will grow as a vocalist. Lyrically, there is not much God preaching going on. There are parts where Spencer is talking about change and hope for life. Really typical Underoath messages at times. On the song My Deteriorate it gets really clear that he is channeling Keith Buckley of Every Time I Die. He sounds exactly like Keith Buckley at times on this song. Again I can not praise Spencer enough for keeping the singing alive with Underoath. He does a great job of really putting his voice behind the music. // 10
Impression: I've only been a fan of Underoath for a few years. In fact I first started off hating them. They were just too whiny and girly for a metal head like me at the time. I'm quite happy to see they have matured a lot. Their last few records changed my opinion on them and made me a believer. Between the heaviness, slow chugging and Spencer Chamberlain's ability to fill in wonderfully for Aaron Gillespie, this is probably their best record yet. I recommend Disambiguation for any music lover out their. // 9
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atreyumetallica, on january 20, 2011 0 of 0 people found this review helpful
Sound: Well I have owned this album for about a month so I can give a good long to term opinion on this. The sound is slow, heavey and extremly experimental and dark which is great and makes them more distingishable and unique then any other metalcore band.. I really love the new drummers style it's not really as flashy as araon but sounds great. The rest of the band have really stepped up instrementaly and made this album possibly better then LITSOS. // 9
Lyrics and Singing: Sperncer's lyrics are really complex, dark and suit the music PERFECTLY. The lyrics are about spencer's personal expeirence's with drug addiction, lonliness and depression. But the song who will gaurd the gaurdians seems to bring up the end of the world again and is maybe the only song that would make it obviouse that there a christian band. So overall the lyrics are great. Now for spencer's vocals he's never been better and are problably one of the best parts of this masterpeice.His screaming that we all love has just gotten more intense and dark. His cleans are some of the most amazing cleans I've heard in awhile and shows he is problably the one of and if not the best vocalist in metalcore. In my opinion I like his cleans more then araons and at moments remind me alot of layne stayley (the old decisied alice in chains lead vocalist) but still manages to sound unique and is very powerful. // 10
Impression: The only band this album reminds me of is alice in chains with the overall sounds( minus jerry cantrells guitar solo's) and spencer's amazing clean vocals. There both slow but heavey and really gritty and there's a riff in, "in division" that sounds like it would be in an A.I.C songs. Hmm I can't really decide what songs are the best beacuse theres something great about every single one but check out, : in division, catch myself catching myself, paper lung and vacant mouth to find out if this album is for you because I'm sure alot of people who were a fan of there last album will not like this one. I've come to love everything about this is album it's just amazing and really creative. The only flaw is that by the end of this short album you just want more. Incase you have not noticed Underoath is one of my favorite bands but this is my honest unbiased opinion on it and if it were lost or stolen I would deffinitly buy it again beacause it's just that amazing and I would love to get the special edition. // 10
I didn't like this album nearly as much as Lost in the Sound of Separation. During the entire DVD for this album, they kept saying how much they've grown and evolved, even though none of the songs on the album stick out to me like some do on Lost. There are no really catchy songs - they all just sound the same. Boring, and a lack of diversity compared to their previous albums.
I think they're in denial about the loss of their drummer - his clean vocals are very much missing here.
Another shining monument to the overwhelming mediocrity of genre.Well at least you don't need to use an acronym to name the band,that's a plus...sort of.
this is by far their best album
i don't honestly see why people liked their old stuff so much
they were pretty bad up until they got spencer
and of course all the fanboys are gonna be all
YOU SUCK! THEIR OLD STUFF WAS THE BEST! DALLAS LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
but
i don't really care
this album is great
Anyone else feel like title is Wikipedia inspired?
Anyway, I'm definitely feeling the album. I thought I'd miss Aaron a lot, but they really do get along fine without him.
the albums okay. it just didnt have any songs that standed out. like "define the great line" had in regards to myself and writing on the walls. those songs standed out. this album nothing stands out. i give it a 6.5
This album is incredible. Not their best, but very close and by far the most creative and the heaviest. Second only to Lost in the Sound of Separation.
I thought this album was fantastic. I honestly think it's some of their best work (with spencer). Not the "catchiest" maybe, but definitely the heaviest; I was hooked to this album almost instantaneously. Underoath proves that they are just as good, if not better (Ima get haters for sayin this), without Gillespie.
Don't see it as the heaviest, just because Aaron isn't doing clean vocals doesn't mean they got heavier. I do think this is the darkest album they made. Took me a while to get into it but I found it entertaining. It does have some shining moments. But overall I don't think it's their best album. On a side note, kind of crazy that the name Underoath survived even though none of the original members are in the band anymore.
Great album, but I don't know if I would call this metalcore. I'd say more along the lines of hard rock/experimental. Also on a sidenote, Underoath didn't end with Dallas leaving, it began when Spencer joined. Everyone seems to undermind the success of "They're Only Chasing Safety" which is what gave them their fame. Thanks to Spencer they are what they are. So yeah. I think I have finished my rant.
I have mixed feelings about the album. When I first listened, I thought it was a bit meh. Then it started to grow on me. Then I got bored of it, and started paying attention to LITSOS, which is now my favorite oddly enough. But i listened to it again, and now I really like it.
Aaron's vocals gave them the diversity that they sort of lack on this album. This one can get a bit monotonous.
However, the songs are good, and there's still 5 members left from the new UO left in the line-up.
They're doing pretty well without Aaron, I'd say, but I miss him doing vocals for the band :/
I'm loving this album. Spencer definetly stepped it up as a vocalist. I'm not missing Aaron at all on this album but I don't doubt that his presence would have spiced up a few of the songs. Still, without him I feel like the band can get past a few things like having conventional sing-along choruses that may have been holding them back. The song structure this time around is a little more interesting but they did lose a little bit of their melodic sense. Whether that's good or bad depends on taste.
7/10 is an appropriate score I'd say. I'm sick of every positive review getting 9's and 10's.
Having listened through the album a few times, I have to begrudgingly admit that it's okay that Aaron's gone. IMO, his clean vocals were what made Underoath stand out from the rest of the hardcore screeching in their genre, whatever it's called. As far as the comments that the new record doesn't have any standout tracks, Illuminator is as good as a lot of the tracks on the previous two albums, and I've grown to like In Division a lot after seeing its music video. Also, as a bassist I have to say shame on everybody for failing to mention the bass work on this album; Grant brings some fantastic distorted bass tone and clever basslines to songs like Illuminator and Catch Myself Catching Myself.
As a non-Christian, I'm also pleased that the Jesus-centric lyrics have been dialed down several notches. Music can be uplifting and contain positive messages without alienating those with different beliefs.
All in all, I'm gonna miss Aaron, but the new drummer dude has some serious chops too, and Underoath has made a solid album, so I'm excited to see where they go from here.
I didn't like this album nearly as much as Lost in the Sound of Separation. During the entire DVD for this album, they kept saying how much they've grown and evolved, even though none of the songs on the album stick out to me like some do on Lost. There are no really catchy songs - they all just sound the same. Boring, and a lack of diversity compared to their previous albums.
I think they're in denial about the loss of their drummer - his clean vocals are very much missing here.
I feel the reverse to be true for me; Lost in The Sound was a bit mediocre in comparison to the previous 2 albums and Disambiguation.
I think they really stepped up their game and made some good ol' Converge/Botch style of metalcore without ever being derivative. This maybe my favorite Underoath album. I would love to catch them on tour if their setlist is mostly songs from this album.
I dont feel like anything will ever live up to define the great line, but this is a good departure from their sound with aaron. i totally agree with anyone who says that there's not really any standout tracks, but i think that gives the album more of a complete feel. i need to listen more to get a more well rounded opinion, but this album leaves a good first impression.
I thought this album was fantastic. I honestly think it's some of their best work (with spencer). Not the "catchiest" maybe, but definitely the heaviest; I was hooked to this album almost instantaneously. Underoath proves that they are just as good, if not better (Ima get haters for sayin this), without Gillespie.
Pretty redundant material from a band made of cliche. I always give a fair listen to any new album but this takes the cake.
How are they cliche though? Honestly, at one time in Underoath's career they were very cliche, but now that is the last thing I hear when I listen to them. They definitely stand out with a different sound than the normal bands circulating today.
Man almost every album is different. haha they have no consistancy. Spencer sounds amazing in this album. I don't think the albums are really able to be compared. I don't really like their first two albums. each album after the first two has something good to give. Although I think that their greatest masterpiece was Define The Great Line and as stated previously probably always will be.
Well i think this album proved underoath can go on even without Gillespie, because to me, i liked this album a lil more than their last album. guitar work is solid, vocals are pretty good, and Daniel davidson to me, really showed that he can fill in the throne that gillespie left empty.
so does this album still features 2 vocalists or just one? or is spencer doing both clean and scream?
Don't quote me on this, but I think the guitarist does some clean singing too.
As for my thoughts on the album, they definitely did better than I expected. To me, Aaron was such a key ingredient to Underoath, and I thought they would hurt tremendously from the loss, but they made it work. I don't like it as much as their older albums, but I respect it a little more, for it seems they really gave it 110%
not really into the whole postwhateverfauxmetalcore scene, but i enjoy this band.
it's not as raw or progressive as define the great line, but a good album nonetheless. i really like the production too; the levels on dtgl seemed to have been pushed too hard, whereas this has a more rounded and organic sound.
Pretty redundant material from a band made of cliche. I always give a fair listen to any new album but this takes the cake.
How are they cliche though? Honestly, at one time in Underoath's career they were very cliche, but now that is the last thing I hear when I listen to them. They definitely stand out with a different sound than the normal bands circulating today.
Its just the way it sounds to me, same formula/structure as previous albums (..and bands) with just different members and so on. I mean yeh, every band has a unique streak or whatever, but there's barely makes a difference. Plus, not a fan of the fact that they force Jesus into my ears, its like being in church except this time they're serious.
This guy.. called spencer..
hes throwing away the name 'underoath'
Real underoath was just with Dallas.
hahah, we always get a ton of "real underoath" fans in the comments. but seriously man, Dallas is gone, why dont you open up to their new music? you might actually like it.
Pretty redundant material from a band made of cliche. I always give a fair listen to any new album but this takes the cake.
How are they cliche though? Honestly, at one time in Underoath's career they were very cliche, but now that is the last thing I hear when I listen to them. They definitely stand out with a different sound than the normal bands circulating today.
Its just the way it sounds to me, same formula/structure as previous albums (..and bands) with just different members and so on. I mean yeh, every band has a unique streak or whatever, but there's barely makes a difference. Plus, not a fan of the fact that they force Jesus into my ears, its like being in church except this time they're serious.
But... they don't force Jesus into your ears. That's what sets them apart from other christian acts is the songs have a deeper meaning than, "have faith read the bible blahblah doin it for mai savior" other crap bands are doing these days. Yes their lyrics have a religious background to them, but it isn't worded to sound like a worship song. I'm not a christian and I know what you mean with bands doing that, but I really didn't get that from this album. Some bands definitely over-do it though, to the point where it seems their only goal is to make it on solid state.
I wouldn't really call this stuff metalcore. Is it heavier than the older stuff? Yes. Is it metalcore though? It doesn't really sound like it to me, when I think of all the popular metalcore bands.
Pretty redundant material from a band made of cliche. I always give a fair listen to any new album but this takes the cake.
How are they cliche though? Honestly, at one time in Underoath's career they were very cliche, but now that is the last thing I hear when I listen to them. They definitely stand out with a different sound than the normal bands circulating today.
Its just the way it sounds to me, same formula/structure as previous albums (..and bands) with just different members and so on. I mean yeh, every band has a unique streak or whatever, but there's barely makes a difference. Plus, not a fan of the fact that they force Jesus into my ears, its like being in church except this time they're serious.
But... they don't force Jesus into your ears. That's what sets them apart from other christian acts is the songs have a deeper meaning than, "have faith read the bible blahblah doin it for mai savior" other crap bands are doing these days. Yes their lyrics have a religious background to them, but it isn't worded to sound like a worship song. I'm not a christian and I know what you mean with bands doing that, but I really didn't get that from this album. Some bands definitely over-do it though, to the point where it seems their only goal is to make it on solid state.
Well I know what you mean, after reading the really really typical lyrics (''Its all gonna end, RIGHT NOW, OH GOD, I'VE FOUND YOU, SAVE MEEEE'' being deadly cereal, like killer cereal) Its more along the lines of 'This is the story of a guy who believes in Jeeeeezuuuusss' and is very inoffensive and yaddayadda. But ye, I guess thats +1 point to -core band #4393482. PROGRESS, it feels like bacon.
i would say that this album surpassed my expectations because honestly i thought it was going to blow without aaron. but it was good. definitely not my favorite album of theirs, but i do enjoy pretty much all of this bands work. that said - this album rrrrreally is missing aaron's clean vocals, although spencer does a decent job. aaron's parts are what defined all of the standout songs on the past albums and without them this record doesn't have any tracks that grab my attention other than 'vacant mouth' all in all i'd give it a 7/7.5 and i'm pretty happy with that.
I wouldn't really call this stuff metalcore. Is it heavier than the older stuff? Yes. Is it metalcore though? It doesn't really sound like it to me, when I think of all the popular metalcore bands.
What you're thinking of is modern metalcore. Check out some old-school metalcore, you'll get it.
Well I know what you mean, after reading the really really typical lyrics (''Its all gonna end, RIGHT NOW, OH GOD, I'VE FOUND YOU, SAVE MEEEE'' being deadly cereal, like killer cereal) Its more along the lines of 'This is the story of a guy who believes in Jeeeeezuuuusss' and is very inoffensive and yaddayadda. But ye, I guess thats +1 point to -core band #4393482. PROGRESS, it feels like bacon.
Eh, the part about the -core band #4393482 was a tad ridiculous and uncalled for considering they don't follow the same formula as every other -core band out there. I don't care for the religious lyrics myself, but at least UnderOath doesn't over do it.
Well I know what you mean, after reading the really really typical lyrics (''Its all gonna end, RIGHT NOW, OH GOD, I'VE FOUND YOU, SAVE MEEEE'' being deadly cereal, like killer cereal) Its more along the lines of 'This is the story of a guy who believes in Jeeeeezuuuusss' and is very inoffensive and yaddayadda. But ye, I guess thats +1 point to -core band #4393482. PROGRESS, it feels like bacon.
Eh, the part about the -core band #4393482 was a tad ridiculous and uncalled for considering they don't follow the same formula as every other -core band out there. I don't care for the religious lyrics myself, but at least UnderOath doesn't over do it.
Well I know what you mean, after reading the really really typical lyrics (''Its all gonna end, RIGHT NOW, OH GOD, I'VE FOUND YOU, SAVE MEEEE'' being deadly cereal, like killer cereal) Its more along the lines of 'This is the story of a guy who believes in Jeeeeezuuuusss' and is very inoffensive and yaddayadda. But ye, I guess thats +1 point to -core band #4393482. PROGRESS, it feels like bacon.
Eh, the part about the -core band #4393482 was a tad ridiculous and uncalled for considering they don't follow the same formula as every other -core band out there. I don't care for the religious lyrics myself, but at least UnderOath doesn't over do it.
Bro, he doesn't like the band. Get over it.
hahah yeah I was thinking that. Epi, you have some good taste in music man and I agree with a lot of what you post. But I can see where you might be a little biased here being an atheist. Still...this was a nice little example of how to rationally debate an issue as opposed to flaming back and forth. anyways I think Underoath is a really good forward thinking band... theres my two cents for the day :p
I wouldn't really call this stuff metalcore. Is it heavier than the older stuff? Yes. Is it metalcore though? It doesn't really sound like it to me, when I think of all the popular metalcore bands.
What you're thinking of is modern metalcore. Check out some old-school metalcore, you'll get it.
POSTED: 11/13/2010 - 02:43 pm / quote |
ProgJazzMath :
EpiExplorer wrote:
Well I know what you mean, after reading the really really typical lyrics (''Its all gonna end, RIGHT NOW, OH GOD, I'VE FOUND YOU, SAVE MEEEE'' being deadly cereal, like killer cereal) Its more along the lines of 'This is the story of a guy who believes in Jeeeeezuuuusss' and is very inoffensive and yaddayadda. But ye, I guess thats +1 point to -core band #4393482. PROGRESS, it feels like bacon.
Eh, the part about the -core band #4393482 was a tad ridiculous and uncalled for considering they don't follow the same formula as every other -core band out there. I don't care for the religious lyrics myself, but at least UnderOath doesn't over do it.
POSTED: 11/13/2010 - 04:18 pm / quote |
Jon777 :
ProgJazzMath wrote:
EpiExplorer wrote:
Well I know what you mean, after reading the really really typical lyrics (''Its all gonna end, RIGHT NOW, OH GOD, I'VE FOUND YOU, SAVE MEEEE'' being deadly cereal, like killer cereal) Its more along the lines of 'This is the story of a guy who believes in Jeeeeezuuuusss' and is very inoffensive and yaddayadda. But ye, I guess thats +1 point to -core band #4393482. PROGRESS, it feels like bacon.
Eh, the part about the -core band #4393482 was a tad ridiculous and uncalled for considering they don't follow the same formula as every other -core band out there. I don't care for the religious lyrics myself, but at least UnderOath doesn't over do it.
Bro, he doesn't like the band. Get over it.
POSTED: 11/13/2010 - 04:33 pm / quote |
Human371 :
Jon777 wrote:
ProgJazzMath wrote:
EpiExplorer wrote:
Well I know what you mean, after reading the really really typical lyrics (''Its all gonna end, RIGHT NOW, OH GOD, I'VE FOUND YOU, SAVE MEEEE'' being deadly cereal, like killer cereal) Its more along the lines of 'This is the story of a guy who believes in Jeeeeezuuuusss' and is very inoffensive and yaddayadda. But ye, I guess thats +1 point to -core band #4393482. PROGRESS, it feels like bacon.
Eh, the part about the -core band #4393482 was a tad ridiculous and uncalled for considering they don't follow the same formula as every other -core band out there. I don't care for the religious lyrics myself, but at least UnderOath doesn't over do it.
Bro, he doesn't like the band. Get over it.
hahah yeah I was thinking that. Epi, you have some good taste in music man and I agree with a lot of what you post. But I can see where you might be a little biased here being an atheist. Still...this was a nice little example of how to rationally debate an issue as opposed to flaming back and forth. anyways I think Underoath is a really good forward thinking band... theres my two cents for the day :p
POSTED: 11/13/2010 - 04:46 pm / quote | wrote:
sg4ever wrote:
I wouldn't really call this stuff metalcore. Is it heavier than the older stuff? Yes. Is it metalcore though? It doesn't really sound like it to me, when I think of all the popular metalcore bands.
What you're thinking of is modern metalcore. Check out some old-school metalcore, you'll get it.
did anyone think the cymbals used by Daniel kinda hindered you from hearing the guitar and bass cleanly?? Or is it just the production?
Great album otherwise....not as catchy as their previous stuff but definitely solid and a bit more mature. Spencer totally ear ****ed me on this one. Full credit to Tim, James and Grant as well, they really took it up a notch.
Pretty redundant material from a band made of cliche. I always give a fair listen to any new album but this takes the cake.
How are they cliche though? Honestly, at one time in Underoath's career they were very cliche, but now that is the last thing I hear when I listen to them. They definitely stand out with a different sound than the normal bands circulating today.
Its just the way it sounds to me, same formula/structure as previous albums (..and bands) with just different members and so on. I mean yeh, every band has a unique streak or whatever, but there's barely makes a difference. Plus, not a fan of the fact that they force Jesus into my ears, its like being in church except this time they're serious.
But... they don't force Jesus into your ears. That's what sets them apart from other christian acts is the songs have a deeper meaning than, "have faith read the bible blahblah doin it for mai savior" other crap bands are doing these days. Yes their lyrics have a religious background to them, but it isn't worded to sound like a worship song. I'm not a christian and I know what you mean with bands doing that, but I really didn't get that from this album. Some bands definitely over-do it though, to the point where it seems their only goal is to make it on solid state.
If you'd listened to their earlier albums, you'd know they shove Jesus into every one of your orifices.
I've only given it one listen but I already like it better than Lost in the Sound. I thought the vocals were better than on previous albums too.
Sam Rulez D00d wrote:
Diego. wrote:
This guy.. called spencer..
hes throwing away the name 'underoath'
Real underoath was just with Dallas.
hahah, we always get a ton of "real underoath" fans in the comments. but seriously man, Dallas is gone, why dont you open up to their new music? you might actually like it.
Underoath was a completely different band before Dallas left so there will be some people that loved their old stuff that can't really get into their new stuff. Personally I like all their stuff.
Pretty redundant material from a band made of cliche. I always give a fair listen to any new album but this takes the cake.
How are they cliche though? Honestly, at one time in Underoath's career they were very cliche, but now that is the last thing I hear when I listen to them. They definitely stand out with a different sound than the normal bands circulating today.
Its just the way it sounds to me, same formula/structure as previous albums (..and bands) with just different members and so on. I mean yeh, every band has a unique streak or whatever, but there's barely makes a difference. Plus, not a fan of the fact that they force Jesus into my ears, its like being in church except this time they're serious.
But... they don't force Jesus into your ears. That's what sets them apart from other christian acts is the songs have a deeper meaning than, "have faith read the bible blahblah doin it for mai savior" other crap bands are doing these days. Yes their lyrics have a religious background to them, but it isn't worded to sound like a worship song. I'm not a christian and I know what you mean with bands doing that, but I really didn't get that from this album. Some bands definitely over-do it though, to the point where it seems their only goal is to make it on solid state.
If you'd listened to their earlier albums, you'd know they shove Jesus into every one of your orifices.
I own every one of their cd's including the early Ep's that were heavy metal. Acts of Depression and Crys of the Past to be exact. This album isn't one of those albums where they shove it in everyones face because they grew out of that stage and matured musically. The lyrics have religious backgrounds and meaning, but it's not so out there to make a non-religious listener dis-satisfied. I believe we were talking about this album in those comments, if I had have known we were discussing their entire works, I wouldn't have made such a comment.
If you'd listened to their earlier albums, you'd know they shove Jesus into every one of your orifices.
They did, on like their first two albums. Third album I don't really know. But fourth album onwards has been more about life and relationships and whatnot.
Their old songs used to be like bible lessons. But in their newer songs, religion is more of a personal thing IMO. It's not like every time a Christian band mentions God they're trying to force their beliefs on you.
This is an absolutely devastating album. When "Define The Great Line" came out, it was such a heavy album for them at the time and I thought that it would define them at their heaviest. When "Lost In The Sounds of Separation" came out, it was a lot more atmospheric and experimental, but it was definitely heavier in writing and melody. But holy crap, this album is just absolutely incredible. I could listen to "In Division" for hours and just be amazed with each time. I think this is definitely the most passionate and emotional album they've put out in their career, making it (in my opinion) their best album yet.
I've listened to Underoath since they've started out,
and I have to say, all they've done was get even better than before. Disambiguation, is the best album yet. And they'll continue to get better.
First time I listened to this album, none of the songs stuck out. Initial impressions stunk. Second and third listens, I think I only liked two or three songs. Fifth time, I picked out 4-5 songs I liked. Now it's 6-7 songs that are just badass, totally feeling the vibe they went for. The other songs I think I'll grow to like as well, but to anyone skeptical about this album..just don't give up on it right away
I actually have a lot to say about this album. First off, IMO the songs that are mainly clean singing are the best ones such as like Paper Lung, In Completion, and (one of the best vocal/lyrical performances on the album) Driftwood.
Second: I was initially shocked and disappointed at the departure of Aaron Gillepsie. However, knowing now that I should have never doubted Spencer, the clean vocals sound almost exactly the same as Aaron did anyway. It's not as catchy but the voice is the same as is some of the melody.
This album to me is really just the opening to the third generation of underØath.
As for the album name, disambiguate means to "remove the ambiguity from" :\ Ok... ambiguous means to have more than one possible meaning. So really the album name is ambiguous even though it's called disambiguation. I think that with the Ø before it, the title is a reference to disambiguating their symbol, which is used different for things like diameter, zero, and underoath.
Lastly, my view on the album is that it places after Define the Great Line and They're Only Chasing Safety but before Lost In the Sound of Seperation (although We Are the Involutary was an epic song).
natuMzzri wrote:
As for the album name, disambiguate means to "remove the ambiguity from" :\ Ok... ambiguous means to have more than one possible meaning. So really the album name is ambiguous even though it's called disambiguation. I think that with the Ø before it, the title is a reference to disambiguating their symbol, which is used different for things like diameter, zero, and underoath.
They're clearing up the ambiguity about who they are. Gillespie may have left, but they're still Underoath and they still have something important to say. That's how I see it.
Used to see them as "bleh a Christian hardcore band? No thanks." But they and August Burns Red may be giving a good name to the genre. That and since I have a very weird--but very solid--philosophical take on religion that leaves as much room for Christianity as any other belief system (excluding perhaps absolute nihilism) I'm not really turned off by the lyrics and is fact have no problem playing them back to back with Cynic or Behemoth. Especially considering I freaking love their music now.
Just started trying to give this album another chance, and so far the only song that I like is Catch Myself. It has a really interesting opening as far as guitars go, but other than that the album is a bit blah. I'll keep trying to figure it out though.
Bought this on a recommendation from Pandora. That little app does wonders for showing me new metal bands each month or two. Great album and a great band. Sad to hear about the old members taking off but I like the new stuff they put out.
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