Released: Jun 8, 2010
Genre: Deathcore
Label: Metal Blade
Number Of Tracks: 11
Whitechapel have created two solid albums in the past and it appears that we can add a third to that list.
A New Era Of Corruption
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BwareDWare94, on june 08, 2010 2 of 4 people found this review helpful
Sound: Whitechapel have created two solid albums in the past and it appears that we can add a third to that list. A New Era of Corruption is an undeniable progression. Instrumentally, it's much better than The Somatic Defilement or This is Exile. What remains to be seen for this listener is if it's as compositionally accomplished. It certainly appears so, but I'm going to give the record a few more spins before I make a decision on that point. Alex Wade, Ben Savage, and Zach Householder offer much more as a trio than on previous efforts. Savage's solos are miles better than the two found on This is Exile, not to mention there are quite a few more on this record. One note I must add and celebrate is that this album relies much less on breakdowns and more on composition. Gabe Crisp is audible at times and for deathcore that's an accomplishment. Kevin Lane has gotten much better at making each and every note he hits audible, which was a pleasant surprise. His fills are better and he relies much less on blast beats this time around. It was nice to hear the members of this band venture out of their comfort zones. I'm excited for when I'll actually be able to purchase this album once the weekend arrives. // 8
Lyrics and Singing: Phil Bozeman is definitely a beast behind the mic. His vocals are not only amazing, they are impactful. Not to mention his lyrics, which are much better this time around. I think we all know that The Somatic Defilement wasn't an actual effort to pen good lyrics and that This is Exile had some terribly weak moments. If one thing is clear, he is one pissed off customer with a lot of things to say. // 9
Impression: Overall, I'd give this record a solid 8. That 8 is based on potential because this band keeps getting better and better. For each metal album that a band releases, I look for progression in three areas: instrumental, vocal/lyrical, and compositional. Whitechapel has clearly progressed in all three areas. Look for this band to stick around for a long long time. They're head and shoulders above their peers within the genre and personally, I find it tough to even refer to this album as a deathcore album aside from a few tracks. Though it is definitely in the deathcore vein, it definitely has other influences that are quite obvious as well. // 8
A New Era Of Corruption
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mssrulez, on july 18, 2011 0 of 0 people found this review helpful
Sound: This album is a big change from the previous two. There are solos now, breakdowns are less present and blast beats are no longer everywhere. There is some very nice riffs and fills, such as the part after the first chorus on "Murder Sermon". The vocals are, suprisingly, much better then they already were (that's saying something). // 10
Lyrics and Singing: The lyrics on this album are pretty good. Phil has so much skill and there some memorable lines, such as "Now the world can rest in peace forever" as heard in "The Darkest Day Of Man". One thing that could be improved, on the other hand, is the lyrical throw every now and again but it doesn't ruin anything. Also, Chino's guest vocals are terrible. // 8
Impression: Overall, this album is just fantastic! It surpasses the epic "Somatic Defilement" - what an achievement - and also "This Is Exile" which was a disapointment in my eyes anyway. It's definatly worth full asking price and I'm looking forward to more in the future. // 9
A New Era Of Corruption
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unregistered, on august 26, 2010 0 of 0 people found this review helpful
Sound: This album sounds great in terms of production and the music. The album is based around breakdowns but they do not just do triplets and such but have become more like Meshuggah in the way the breakdowns are more of a groove then a actual breakdown (Breeding Violence is a great example). They are not they best musicians but they do what they do pretty damn well, I was actually surprised by their skills at some parts but not an overwhelming amount, but music is not just about technique. To give an example of the album I will "BreakdowN" the song Breeding Violence. The beginning riff is a sick and pretty tech breakdown groove riff that builds up to the line "f--k THIS LIFE" and then the power of the music just grows with the vocals. The next part is kind slow and mediocre but only helps build up for the fast parts that come up after it. Fast part = blasts and some cool riffs before going to a breakdown and then a little solo and then its just some riffs repeated. Text can not really do the song justice but its the best song on the album. // 9
Lyrics and Singing: The lyrics fit the music and are delivered great. The only reason why I did not give it a 10 is because some lines are kind of dumb I think but that is just my opinion, but the deliver is f--king great. Bad line: IN THE BLINK OF AN EYE I HAVE REALIZED MY LOCATION, THE PLACE THEY CALL THE UNDERWORLD. Alright, its not that bad and its place in end of flesh is a highlight of the album, but the word location just make me think he is looking at a map with a compass and shit. It is a strong nine. // 9
Impression: In this genre I haven't heard anything come close and I want to hate this band and all the hot topic fags but there is no denying that Whitechapel OWNS every one of their peers with this album. The only thing that would make it better is if they laid down some Necrophagist like solos but that's not their style. The cover would be better if it was hand drawn but that is a rare thing these days. // 10
A New Era Of Corruption
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madderdaddy2, on june 21, 2010 1 of 2 people found this review helpful
Sound: The sound quality is far better than the previous two albums. Phil Bozeman definately is better at vocals. There is a bit more variaty than in the previous albums. Some nice accoustic passages as well as a few solos make for interesting guitar parts. Now for the biggest change. I heard bass! They definately bumped up Gabe's volume, and even gave him a few small features, which is almost unheard of in deathcore. They should have put a different song as the first one, it just didn't seem very strong. Other than that, the sound was great. // 8
Lyrics and Singing: Phil does it again. Harsh vocals and more variaty than the past albums. The lyrics in this album are definately darker, more violent, and more emotional than in previous recordings. One thing about Whitechapel is that their lyrics never seem to flow smoothly. Sometimes, it almost sounds awkward. All in all, I think the lyrics, and how Bozeman delivers them, is done well. // 8
Impression: This album is far better than many other deathcore albums I have heard. Most of the songs did not dissapoint. I like the sound quality, and how balanced all of the levels of the vocals and instruments were. I think it was a well made album, and all fans of the band and genre would not be dissapointed with it's purchase. I would reccomend it to anyone. // 8
A New Era Of Corruption
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wbjackson517, on may 07, 2012 0 of 1 people found this review helpful
Sound: Ok. I am reviewing this album a month before their new album comes out. This is my first experience with Whitechapel and I love them. The album title comes from the song "Possessed Off" of "This Is Exile". I saw these guys live on the "Welcome To Hell" tour and I was very impressed. Now let me say this, I have been listening to metal of some form for 25 years. These guys are my favorite band. I am usually not a bandwagon guy, but Whitechapel is the real deal and this album is great. I have let so many people listen to it and now they are fans. Phil Bozeman and company are the real deal. // 10
Lyrics and Singing: The reason Whitechapel are an excellent band is their name for one. It's a town that Jack the Ripper terrorized back in the day. Secondly the lyrics. Here is a little example: "kill everything that you love...", "I am everything that you hate..." That is death metal as hell. Now I know that they are deathcore and there is mo denying it. But damn they do it well. The breakdowns are timed well and the three guitar attack just makes it heavy as hell. Phil sounds like a serial killer with his vocal delivery and the musicianship is tight. All the songs are excellent. // 10
Impression: Whitechapel is by far in a league of their own. Better than Suicide Silence, Chelsea Grin and Carnifex. The best songs on the album are "Reprogrammed To Hate", "Darkest Day Of Man", and "Murder Sermon". Not a sleeper in the bunch. All well executed and delivered like a knockout punch. These guys will be on Mayhem Tour in 2012 and if you have any doubts go see them live! // 10
A New Era Of Corruption
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unregistered, on june 08, 2010 0 of 3 people found this review helpful
Sound: It's easy to get lost amongst the masses of metal bands out there pushing a "unique" sound. Whitechapel has, untill recently remained primarily in the underground scene. It's difficult for any band to establish a true identity when competing against genre giants such as Job for a Cowboy, but A New Era of Currution establishes that this band is every bit as brutal and creative as the current masters of this genre. Technically, the band delivers a huge improvement upon their previous album, This is Exile. The song structures deliver a much more memorable album, and the attention to the grove or the feel of the music still firmly places this album within that same sound that has given Whitechapel its identity. A New Era of Curruption should impress both followers of the band and sceptics alike. // 9
Lyrics and Singing: Bozeman (vocals) has improved on his technique tenfold. Each track has a unique and important message. For example, (End of Flesh) delivers a vocal performance that melds brilliantly with the guitar work underneath. In an attempt to make his work more accesible, Bozeman has tried to clarify his words while improving on that gritty, deep scream that is reminiscent of the work of J.Davy (JFAC). In every single respect, Whitechapel delivers on these promises. Other tracks in particular, such as (Murder Sermon) strike a very personal note to the band- focusing on the death of Bozeman's mother. The willingness to express these feelings on record is something of an achievement- and it is pulled off with great finess. // 9
Impression: Whereas the previous album has certain tracks that carried the rest through (point in case; Posession from the album This is Exile) A New Era of Corruption is consistently strong. It's clear that Whitechapel has understood the importance of this LP. Delivering a huge following after This is Exile- A New Era of Corruption is many respects a "Make or Break" effort. The rhythmic prowess that Whitechapel flaunted in their previous albums makes an even stronger return in this album- and so do the lyrics. Tracks like "End of Flesh", "Breeding Violence", "The Darkest Day of Man" really showcase the talent of the band. This is a hugely impressive album that I'm sure will stand the test of time. If you're a fan of Whitechapel- I would ensure that you go out and get a taste of what they've delivered as fast as you possibly can. // 9
Whitechapel has one of the biggest scene followings in the deathcore genre and probably has received way more attention than they deserve. Don't know why the second review makes them sound like underground super heroes. Hell when I saw them on tour with Suffocation they actually headlined because more people were there to see them. Whitechapel headlining over Suffocation! What is the world coming to.
Whitechapel has one of the biggest scene followings in the deathcore genre and probably has received way more attention than they deserve. Don't know why the second review makes them sound like underground super heroes. Hell when I saw them on tour with Suffocation they actually headlined because more people were there to see them. Whitechapel headlining over Suffocation! What is the world coming to.
NEWER BANDS GETTING RECOGNITION OVER OLDER ONES?!?!
IN THIS DAY AND AGE?!?!?
White Chapel sounds so generic to me. It's right there with Suicide Silence.
All these deathcore bands (Is that the "correct" genre?) sound the same.
I'm not trying to genre-bash. It's just the truth.
My personal opinion, I can't see the talent in a death-whatever band. It's basically "Lets get heavy as possible."
Idk. Not my style.
I've listened to all of their "This is Exile" album quite a few times because of friends. Needless to say it doesn't stick with me.
White Chapel sounds so generic to me. It's right there with Suicide Silence.
All these deathcore bands (Is that the "correct" genre?) sound the same.
I'm not trying to genre-bash. It's just the truth.
My personal opinion, I can't see the talent in a death-whatever band. It's basically "Lets get heavy as possible."
Idk. Not my style.
I've listened to all of their "This is Exile" album quite a few times because of friends. Needless to say it doesn't stick with me.
Clearly you haven't listened to After The Burial of Veil of Maya. Both bands have a major influx of many other genres and they incorporate it into their music. Just listen to 'Pi (The Mercury God Of Infinity)' or 'The Uprising'/It's not safe to swim today. Both amazing songs which do require talent to both play and write.
Clearly you haven't listened to After The Burial of Veil of Maya. Both bands have a major influx of many other genres and they incorporate it into their music. Just listen to 'Pi (The Mercury God Of Infinity)' or 'The Uprising'/It's not safe to swim today. Both amazing songs which do require talent to both play and write.
Although I personally prefer the Rareform album from After the Burial I still concur. That and I actually really like Suicide Silence, at first it didn't seem all that great, but after listening for a while I started to realize their genius.
Whitechapel has one of the biggest scene followings in the deathcore genre and probably has received way more attention than they deserve. Don't know why the second review makes them sound like underground super heroes. Hell when I saw them on tour with Suffocation they actually headlined because more people were there to see them. Whitechapel headlining over Suffocation! What is the world coming to.
That's not as bad as Dark Tranquillity opening for Killswitch Engage and The Devil Wears Prada...
Whitechapel has one of the biggest scene followings in the deathcore genre and probably has received way more attention than they deserve. Don't know why the second review makes them sound like underground super heroes. Hell when I saw them on tour with Suffocation they actually headlined because more people were there to see them. Whitechapel headlining over Suffocation! What is the world coming to.
WTF Suffocation is not just older and better... They're a lot better. Leagues better. One of the best death metal bands in history. Whitechapel would be amazingly lucky to become known as a death metal band period. Not that I don't enjoy listening to them once in a while... but wow. I guess that's the world today... remember, when Cynic opened for DragonForce, they actually got booed.
Lastly, unregistered's review--A New Era of Currution? Attention to the grove? Did you bother having your eyes open to type?
There's only a few deathcore bands I enjoy, and Whitechapel is one of them. This new album is really good imo, since it has more of a brutal death metal feel to it than deathcore. When I saw Suffocation/Whitechapel last year, it was the other way around with Suffo headlining; the way it should be
I saw Whitechapel for the first time when they were the opening act on a Summer Slaughter tour a few years ago. No one had heard of them and they were pretty terrific for the opening band with no one paying attention to them.
I kind of enjoyed This Is Exile. It was pretty simple but it flowed very well and had some good groove to it. The last time I saw them was at Ottobar in Baltimore with Job For a Cowboy and Cattle Decapitation and dear god were they horrible. The drummer was completely out of sync and the guitarists sounded like they played the same open chords over and over. Josh Elmore is the ONLY guitarist for Cattle Decap and was a million times better than all three Whitechapel guitarists combined, in terms of both presence and sound.
I listened to this album on my way to work this morning. Did they even have to record for this? Sounds like they took all the notes from This Is Exile and rearranged them in a less appealing order. It lacks the groove that made This Is Exile contagious even though it lacked technical prowess.
I try not to be a music snob, but I associate this type of music as an alternative to rap. Hot Topic latches on to this style as the current music that gets 14 year olds to spend their money. If you enjoy this, more power to you. But to me it is just a bunch of rehashed breakdowns and will be the last time I bother listening to this band. Not sure how these guys got big when there are a million other bands that sound the same.
White Chapel sounds so generic to me. It's right there with Suicide Silence.
All these deathcore bands (Is that the "correct" genre?) sound the same.
I'm not trying to genre-bash. It's just the truth.
My personal opinion, I can't see the talent in a death-whatever band. It's basically "Lets get heavy as possible."
Idk. Not my style.
I've listened to all of their "This is Exile" album quite a few times because of friends. Needless to say it doesn't stick with me.
If you think this music is talentless, please try to play the drum track or vocal track to 90% of Whitechapel's music. Bet you cant. If it were talentless, dont you think everyone would be doing it? (possibly including you?)
Whitechapel has one of the biggest scene followings in the deathcore genre and probably has received way more attention than they deserve. Don't know why the second review makes them sound like underground super heroes. Hell when I saw them on tour with Suffocation they actually headlined because more people were there to see them. Whitechapel headlining over Suffocation! What is the world coming to. That's not as bad as Dark Tranquillity opening for Killswitch Engage and The Devil Wears Prada...
Agreed tenfold. That downright pissed me off. But it sure was fun to repeatedly say "Man this band sucks" between songs when TDWP was playing. All the fanboys would turn around, see that I could probably kick their ass, and wouldn't say a thing . It was hilarious.
Clearly you haven't listened to After The Burial of Veil of Maya. Both bands have a major influx of many other genres and they incorporate it into their music. Just listen to 'Pi (The Mercury God Of Infinity)' or 'The Uprising'/It's not safe to swim today. Both amazing songs which do require talent to both play and write.
Although I personally prefer the Rareform album from After the Burial I still concur. That and I actually really like Suicide Silence, at first it didn't seem all that great, but after listening for a while I started to realize their genius.
I hope you're kidding. The word "genius" can't be put anywhere near Suicide Silence. They're terrible.
i've been listening to metal for years and years, which is why it confuses me when people talk shit about deathcore all sounding the same while death metal is amazing. From what I've heard, death metal bands all sound the same, just like all musicians in the same genre sound the same. Anyway, this album was amazing, and no other band sounds like Whitechapel.
Clearly you haven't listened to After The Burial of Veil of Maya. Both bands have a major influx of many other genres and they incorporate it into their music. Just listen to 'Pi (The Mercury God Of Infinity)' or 'The Uprising'/It's not safe to swim today. Both amazing songs which do require talent to both play and write.
Although I personally prefer the Rareform album from After the Burial I still concur. That and I actually really like Suicide Silence, at first it didn't seem all that great, but after listening for a while I started to realize their genius.
Ewww... Suicide Silence... Wither wayy.. A lot of metal core bands are pretty boys now.. It's pretty lame. I think the scene was better before bands that involved a lot of screaming became a trend to high school kids.
Listened to all of the tracks and I have to say, I'm not a massive fan. The one thing that really kept me interested in Whitechapel was Phil's voice, and yes, while it does sound 'brutal', theres no change in it. I loved his variations on This is Exile between the highs and lows, it would be constant and would keep you guessing, but its missing from this album. Not many memorable riffs either. End of Flesh from 0:28 to 1:20 are great and necromechanical has some good riffage, but apart from that nothing really captured me. Certainly no decent intros like Possession!
somatic defilement was an amazing cd...at the time, right when everybody was jumping on the zomg dethcore bandwagon. when this is exile came out, i was already bored with the scene, and couldnt really stand most of the album. new era, however, seems a lot more situational, less bland breakdowns and typical trem. riffs, its calmly and quite seems that they could be headed for something a little less generic.
I can't get into anything related to deathcore. It's either "listen to me tune down to A on an Ibanez and play muddy chromatic runs while our vocalist grunts incomprehensibly!" or in the case of bands like Periphery and After The Burial, "kids like Meshuggah, right? And they like emo and scene stuff right? Let's mix them together, we'll be more popular than Jesus!".
So either brutality for brutality's sake or second-rate Meshuggah worship. Ehn.
Deathcore, not metal. There are big asthetic differences.
technically, Deathcore is a fusion genre of Metalcore and Death Metal, both of which stem from Thrash Metal. So they are metal, maybe not YOUR kind of metal, but they are metal indeed.
Deathcore, not metal. There are big asthetic differences.
technically, Deathcore is a fusion genre of Metalcore and Death Metal, both of which stem from Thrash Metal. So they are metal, maybe not YOUR kind of metal, but they are metal indeed.
Things with the -core prefixes are primarily punk genres. All stems from hardcore. From hardcore to thrashcore to grindcore, then mixing hardcore with NWOBHM/thrash metal to get metalcore, jazz/prog metal to get mathcore and death metal to get deathcore. And thats why its not metal. Its -core.
Deathcore, not metal. There are big asthetic differences.
technically, Deathcore is a fusion genre of Metalcore and Death Metal, both of which stem from Thrash Metal. So they are metal, maybe not YOUR kind of metal, but they are metal indeed.
Actually, the -core suffix signifies roots from PUNK, not thrash metal.
Deathcore, not metal. There are big asthetic differences.
technically, Deathcore is a fusion genre of Metalcore and Death Metal, both of which stem from Thrash Metal. So they are metal, maybe not YOUR kind of metal, but they are metal indeed.
Actually, the -core suffix signifies roots from PUNK, not thrash metal.
Which comes from metalCORE, not Death Metal. And Metalcore and Death Metal both contain elements of thrash metal. Metalcore mixes them with hardcore punk elements, hence the term "metalcore".
damnit. not another genre war! its all metal people, lets just get along!
and i saw these guys live a few months ago, great show, intense pit. i also noticed that most of whitechapel's audience there consisted of overweight guys. just sayin.
damnit. not another genre war! its all metal people, lets just get along!
and i saw these guys live a few months ago, great show, intense pit. i also noticed that most of whitechapel's audience there consisted of overweight guys. just sayin.
Yeah, but its just not XD lists and categories are here for organization.
saw them live... all bass booms, couldn't hear the music... I was there to see metal, not subwoofer booms. On another note, Dirge Within, Chimaira and Trivium were great that night.
wow, it's so stupid to hear the bitching about "core"
metalcore comes from the blend of hardcore punk and metal, just like how early thrash was a blend of hardcore punk and speed metal. deathcore, mathcore and so on are subgenres of metalcore and due to what metalcore being what it is, all subgenres of metalcore are metal, just like how all sub genres of thrash are metal, so on and so forth. I'm sick of hearing from metal "purists". Metal hasn't been pure in years especially with further genre distinctions.
Anyway. Deathcore is hokey, it's just simpified metalcore with cookie monster vocals. I don't hear death metal in it anywhere, considering death metal is usually technical.
Alright, death-core has its peaks when executed correctly. bands like Carnifex, Molotov solution, and Whitechapel all have their own twists to it, but its similar all the same. Like all genres of music. Personally, I hate suicide silence and veil of Maya because of their generic sound, but somehow they seem more popular then bands like Behemoth and other talented metal groups. Just because its "genius" doesn't make it good.
Punk led to hardcore, a simply heavier sounding style of punk music. Hadcore music then gave it's influence to metal creating metalcore. but then every style subgenre and form of music, basically any prefix, got the "-core" simply because it has hints of a hardcore style of music to it. it doesnt matter what comes before it,the "-core" simply means it came from hardcore. hows that for history, kitties?
Whitechapel has one of the biggest scene followings in the deathcore genre and probably has received way more attention than they deserve. Don't know why the second review makes them sound like underground super heroes. Hell when I saw them on tour with Suffocation they actually headlined because more people were there to see them. Whitechapel headlining over Suffocation! What is the world coming to.
That's not as bad as Dark Tranquillity opening for Killswitch Engage and The Devil Wears Prada...
Agreed tenfold. That downright pissed me off. But it sure was fun to repeatedly say "Man this band sucks" between songs when TDWP was playing. All the fanboys would turn around, see that I could probably kick their ass, and wouldn't say a thing . It was hilarious.
I was at the Boston show at House of Blues. No one paid that much attention to Dark Tranquility, but I swear when TDWP got on stage, I saw a swarm of polo shirt wearing, collar-popped brah-daggz in the pit. Fucking shamefully hilarious. Just saying.
Punk led to hardcore, a simply heavier sounding style of punk music. Hadcore music then gave it's influence to metal creating metalcore. but then every style subgenre and form of music, basically any prefix, got the "-core" simply because it has hints of a hardcore style of music to it. it doesnt matter what comes before it,the "-core" simply means it came from hardcore. hows that for history, kitties?
But if all are subgenres of metalcore, which is derived from both punk and metal that would mean all would be a subgenre of both styles, thus being either or. It makes sense. If you don't like it it's simply because you can't grasp such a simple concept of subgenres being within two genres.
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That's not as bad as Dark Tranquillity opening for Killswitch Engage and The Devil Wears Prada...
What.
What.
I only just read that.
WHUT
I remember a time when long lived famous and well established bands were headliners. Then it got commercialized by this whole '-core whatever' fad. I bet some day it will be something like Gamma Ray opening for BFMV..
Whitechapel has one of the biggest scene followings in the deathcore genre and probably has received way more attention than they deserve. Don't know why the second review makes them sound like underground super heroes. Hell when I saw them on tour with Suffocation they actually headlined because more people were there to see them. Whitechapel headlining over Suffocation! What is the world coming to.
That's not as bad as Dark Tranquillity opening for Killswitch Engage and The Devil Wears Prada...
Agreed tenfold. That downright pissed me off. But it sure was fun to repeatedly say "Man this band sucks" between songs when TDWP was playing. All the fanboys would turn around, see that I could probably kick their ass, and wouldn't say a thing . It was hilarious.
I was at the Boston show at House of Blues. No one paid that much attention to Dark Tranquility, but I swear when TDWP got on stage, I saw a swarm of polo shirt wearing, collar-popped brah-daggz in the pit. Fucking shamefully hilarious. Just saying.
Haha very similar experiences. A bunch of scene kids were at the barrier during Suffocation and weren't even moving to the music while they waited for Whitechapel. I grabbed one of them and screamed something like "don't you know who the **** this is?!?!" Oh well...
Bottom line is the last two times I saw Whitechapel live they were garbage. As someone else mentioned, it sounds like a constant stream of subwaves with a severe lack of melody and rhythm. This album is boring with a capital B.
I knew before I even opened this link what I would be stepping into and I was absolutely correct: a genre war and some metal lovers and/or haters fighting like children. Surprise, surprise. You guys never fail, haha. I also love the reviews that you [UG] choose. Do you purposefully choose the least informative, fan-boy adoring, and grammatically incorrect summaries to make the bands look good and seem like even a retard can enjoy listening to them? Just wondering.
Anyway, back to subject: Whitechapel's "A New Era of Corruption". Funny thing about this album is that, not only does it sound strangely reminiscent to "This is Exile"--hmm, I wonder how many bands that has happened to recently, haha--, but I guess they couldn't help themselves and even had to borrow the new album title from the previously stated album's number-one track, "Possession". I will even quote it for you: "Man will inspire the works of A NEW ERA OF CORRUPTION." I am beginning to wonder exactly how much pull a record label has with its bands because I would imagine that anyone with any normal brain function would not want to keep shelling out the same material with a different name and saying "Oh! It's so 'new,' so 'different'!" I guess we may be relapsing from the Renaissance, who knows?
Come on, people, this is sad. Even I was a fan of "This is Exile", but I cannot enjoy "A New Era of Corruption". If I even had the slightest urge to listen to their [Whitechapel] newest album, I would be doing myself an injustice by not just picking up "This is Exile" instead. Same style, better vocal quality, nicer groove, and even the same basic notation.
BTW, I cannot wait to read the responses to this. If, that is, there even are any.
i've been listening to metal for years and years, which is why it confuses me when people talk shit about deathcore all sounding the same while death metal is amazing. From what I've heard, death metal bands all sound the same, just like all musicians in the same genre sound the same. Anyway, this album was amazing, and no other band sounds like Whitechapel.
I don't even know where to start. This entire post, in a nutshell, is why Whitechapel, bands of their ilk, and the entire subgenre get bashed so blatantly, and will continue so for as long as trends flow through metal.
Like, wow. If you can honestly listen to a song like Hammer Smashed Face (Cannibal Corpse) and Behave Through Mythos (Gorguts) and say they sound the same, you need to check your brain at the door.
Obviously -core is generalized, and probably unfairly, but I can say without exaggeration that there is generally much more variation in death metal as a whole. It's over saturated, yes, but the differences between Veil of Maya and Suicide Silence are a lot smaller than between Dismember and Portal (Australia).
I don't think any intelligent metal head would get riled up enough about crap like Suicide Silence or Whitechapel, as I'm sure lots of them, myself included, have plenty of our own favourites that aren't exactly great. To be frank, the stupidity comes in when you act like said bands are anything more than a fun listen amongst genuinely amazing and enduring albums. Whitechapel might be a draw now, but do you honestly think this new album is going to be talked about and influential in 20 years compared to Effigy of the Forgotten?
people, we shouldn't argue genres (tho there are some really shitty deathcore bands) we should be proud for any from of metal, instead of saying "**** suicide silence" or "**** deathcore" we should say "**** mainstream pop" or "**** justin beiber". just because some bands dont have wut you call talent (i think system of a down has almost no talent) dont mean we should hate the whole genre, we should be proud that we dont rap or sing with a mic that connects to your ear so you could dance. lol
Yeah, why be ignorant towards metal when you can apply that same kind of stupidity to other forms of music that don't have the guitar as the featured instrument?
wow that sucks dude, i wouldn't boo someone unless, i knew them personally and hated them, or if they couldn't keep there scale right. Metal was not made to "dance" to, im not saying i hate people that do, but if someone plays something that you cant dance to doesn't mean you have to boo them. metal was made to bang your head to or mosh.
Like, wow. If you can honestly listen to a song like Hammer Smashed Face (Cannibal Corpse) and Behave Through Mythos (Gorguts) and say they sound the same, you need to check your brain at the door.
Obviously -core is generalized, and probably unfairly, but I can say without exaggeration that there is generally much more variation in death metal as a whole. It's over saturated, yes, but the differences between Veil of Maya and Suicide Silence are a lot smaller than between Dismember and Portal (Australia).
I don't think any intelligent metal head would get riled up enough about crap like Suicide Silence or Whitechapel, as I'm sure lots of them, myself included, have plenty of our own favourites that aren't exactly great. To be frank, the stupidity comes in when you act like said bands are anything more than a fun listen amongst genuinely amazing and enduring albums. Whitechapel might be a draw now, but do you honestly think this new album is going to be talked about and influential in 20 years compared to Effigy of the Forgotten?
You can't really be too harsh on Deathcore. The two Death songs you posted were released 9 years apart from each other, in all fairness- my point is that Death Metal's been around a lot longer, so there's been a lot of room for innovation in the genre. However, Deathcore's only been around for a little less than a decade, it's still a relatively new genre, so there hasn't been too much time to branch out.
Everything else I agree with, though. Hopefully Deathcore can get some real innovaters that can break away from the "get as heavy as possible via breakdowns for the scene kids" mantra. I'm not going to write of the genre or any other -core (well, aside from crap like Crunkcore) unlike other "true" metal fans here.
I remember a time when long lived famous and well established bands were headliners. Then it got commercialized by this whole '-core whatever' fad. I bet some day it will be something like Gamma Ray opening for BFMV..
Or worse... Megadeth opening for Miley Cyrus. < That's what we're headed for, bros.
saw them live... all bass booms, couldn't hear the music... I was there to see metal, not subwoofer booms. On another note, Dirge Within, Chimaira and Trivium were great that night.
That was one of the best concerts of my life. Although Darkest Hour was there and not Chimaira. Yeah, I took a seat on the balcony during Whitechapel. I had seen them headline once before where they got blown out by Veil of Maya who played before them, and then Suffocation actually headlined at this venue. It was kind of sad to see half of the crowd, albeit scene kids, leave after Whitechapel.
You can't really be too harsh on Deathcore. The two Death songs you posted were released 9 years apart from each other, in all fairness- my point is that Death Metal's been around a lot longer, so there's been a lot of room for innovation in the genre. However, Deathcore's only been around for a little less than a decade, it's still a relatively new genre, so there hasn't been too much time to branch out.
That's true, the songs I were posted were created far apart, but even under that criteria, before 1992 you already had Atrocity, Cynic, Morbid Angel, and Entombed. All were playing death metal, and yet none of them really sound that much alike. You could see the similarities between each band, but they were unique from each other.
I'm sure someone could easily recommend me 5 deathcore bands that don't sound alike, but when you compare where the genre is in its life to death metal at a similar point, I think it's pretty obvious which genre was more groundbreaking. Bands like Veil of Maya try to change it up, but instead of sounding fresh, it sounds calculated. At the very least, the most popular deathcore bands don't really hold a candle to the most popular bands in other genres, let alone the underground.
Hell, I don't even need a band like Whitechapel to blow my mind, I just need them to not blow.
GuerillaGorilla wrote:
Hopefully Deathcore can get some real innovaters that can break away from the "get as heavy as possible via breakdowns for the scene kids" mantra.
But the problem is, that's ALL Deathcore is. If anyone experimented with it even in the slightest, it'd just stop being Deathcore altogether. Like, with Beneath The Massacre, somehow they're considered to be "Technical/Brutal Death Metal" if Wikipedia is to be believed (which it's not), if only because they use time signatures other than 4/4 and the main riffs of the song aren't based on muddy chromatics off the low A string. Otherwise, they're just another cookie-cutter deathcore band with extremely low tunings, breakdowns, shitty blastbeats, and the exact same monotonous-sounding grunted vocals as every other band on the scene.
And worse, none of it even sounds REMOTELY good, live. Sure, if you put these bands in stadiums with really good P.A. systems, maybe it'd sound okay, but every time I've been to a concert, the deathcore acts all sound like muddy bullshit and "subwoofer booms" as another member so eloquently put it. There's absolutely no definition in any of the instrumental sounds and the vocals are just as monotonous as on the albums...
I sorta have to disagree slightly with BwareDWare94's Review. Sure, I actually do like the singing on their newest album since it is alot easier to understand what Phil is saying and that he explored with high pitched screams like on "Programmed To Hate" 2:50. But the way they put their songs together for this album was not so good. There is only probably one memorable song from the newest album which is "Darkest Day Of Man". If you listen to "This Is Exile", the majority of their songs are somewhat memorable.
However, the new guitar sounds with the drums are another reason this is album is 2nd best out of the 3 they've made (In my opinion). Maybe if they had a few more breakdowns rather than putting classical guitar compositions on the bridges, would have altered by liking.
GuerillaGorilla wrote:
Hopefully Deathcore can get some real innovaters that can break away from the "get as heavy as possible via breakdowns for the scene kids" mantra.
But the problem is, that's ALL Deathcore is. If anyone experimented with it even in the slightest, it'd just stop being Deathcore altogether. Like, with Beneath The Massacre, somehow they're considered to be "Technical/Brutal Death Metal" if Wikipedia is to be believed (which it's not), if only because they use time signatures other than 4/4 and the main riffs of the song aren't based on muddy chromatics off the low A string. Otherwise, they're just another cookie-cutter deathcore band with extremely low tunings, breakdowns, shitty blastbeats, and the exact same monotonous-sounding grunted vocals as every other band on the scene.
And worse, none of it even sounds REMOTELY good, live. Sure, if you put these bands in stadiums with really good P.A. systems, maybe it'd sound okay, but every time I've been to a concert, the deathcore acts all sound like muddy bullshit and "subwoofer booms" as another member so eloquently put it. There's absolutely no definition in any of the instrumental sounds and the vocals are just as monotonous as on the albums...
You are correct. I've seen quite a few deathcore/metalcore bands live, and only a few of em ever sound good. After the Burial is actually great, as is Veil of Maya, but the so called "broota1" deathcore always sounds god awful live, and the worst part is, Kids love it! I wonder if kids these days are just plain stupid, that's the only way an annoying 8-o-8 bass bumped breakdown could sound good to them
I sorta have to disagree slightly with BwareDWare94's Review. Sure, I actually do like the singing on their newest album since it is alot easier to understand what Phil is saying and that he explored with high pitched screams like on "Programmed To Hate" 2:50. But the way they put their songs together for this album was not so good. There is only probably one memorable song from the newest album which is "Darkest Day Of Man". If you listen to "This Is Exile", the majority of their songs are somewhat memorable.
However, the new guitar sounds with the drums are another reason this is album is 2nd best out of the 3 they've made (In my opinion). Maybe if they had a few more breakdowns rather than putting classical guitar compositions on the bridges, would have altered by liking.
a_n00berthon wrote:
I sorta have to disagree slightly with BwareDWare94's Review. Sure, I actually do like the singing on their newest album since it is alot easier to understand what Phil is saying and that he explored with high pitched screams like on "Programmed To Hate" 2:50. But the way they put their songs together for this album was not so good. There is only probably one memorable song from the newest album which is "Darkest Day Of Man". If you listen to "This Is Exile", the majority of their songs are somewhat memorable.
However, the new guitar sounds with the drums are another reason this is album is 2nd best out of the 3 they've made (In my opinion). Maybe if they had a few more breakdowns rather than putting classical guitar compositions on the bridges, would have altered by liking.
I like the album because there aren't way too many breakdowns. This is Exile got so damn boring at times. I'm really starting to dig Somatic Defilement because it's got much more traditional death influence.
i came here because i love to see genre wars, you dumb asses complain about bands in a genre all sound the same, well, that's why there are genres dumb ****s, btw, i hate whitechapel and deathcore. All you scene fags go listen to innovative bands like Cynic. There is nothing to appreciate in deathcore.
i came here because i love to see genre wars, you dumb asses complain about bands in a genre all sound the same, well, that's why there are genres dumb ****s, btw, i hate whitechapel and deathcore. All you scene fags go listen to innovative bands like Cynic. There is nothing to appreciate in deathcore.
Sure, I actually do like the singing on their newest album since it is alot easier to understand what Phil is saying and that he explored with high pitched screams like on "Programmed To Hate" 2:50.
That is Chino Moreno of the Deftones at 2:50 in the song jackass.
so to the unregistered reviewer, since when does phil bozeman sound anything like job for a cowboy's vocalist? he's not a pig squealing bitch. sure, their new cd was pretty death, but its still really ****ing tough to come close to phils vocals. regardless, this album is not even close to a letdown. WHITECHAPEL FTW
I remember a time when long lived famous and well established bands were headliners. Then it got commercialized by this whole '-core whatever' fad. I bet some day it will be something like Gamma Ray opening for BFMV..
Or worse... Megadeth opening for Miley Cyrus. < That's what we're headed for, bros.
Long Live The Metals.
Then we all might as well participate in planetary suicide if that happens.
GuerillaGorilla wrote:
Hopefully Deathcore can get some real innovaters that can break away from the "get as heavy as possible via breakdowns for the scene kids" mantra.
But the problem is, that's ALL Deathcore is. If anyone experimented with it even in the slightest, it'd just stop being Deathcore altogether. Like, with Beneath The Massacre, somehow they're considered to be "Technical/Brutal Death Metal" if Wikipedia is to be believed (which it's not), if only because they use time signatures other than 4/4 and the main riffs of the song aren't based on muddy chromatics off the low A string. Otherwise, they're just another cookie-cutter deathcore band with extremely low tunings, breakdowns, shitty blastbeats, and the exact same monotonous-sounding grunted vocals as every other band on the scene.
And worse, none of it even sounds REMOTELY good, live. Sure, if you put these bands in stadiums with really good P.A. systems, maybe it'd sound okay, but every time I've been to a concert, the deathcore acts all sound like muddy bullshit and "subwoofer booms" as another member so eloquently put it. There's absolutely no definition in any of the instrumental sounds and the vocals are just as monotonous as on the albums...
You are correct. I've seen quite a few deathcore/metalcore bands live, and only a few of em ever sound good. After the Burial is actually great, as is Veil of Maya, but the so called "broota1" deathcore always sounds god awful live, and the worst part is, Kids love it! I wonder if kids these days are just plain stupid, that's the only way an annoying 8-o-8 bass bumped breakdown could sound good to them
It's called personal preference - not stupidity. Because a kid likes a breakdown and/or any band with a breakdown doesn't make them stupid.
I hate how this band gets lumped in with Suicide Silence just because it's deathcore... but unlike Suicide Silence... Whitechapel can actually play their instruments.
ExOblivione
That's not as bad as Dark Tranquillity opening for Killswitch Engage and The Devil Wears Prada...
What.
What.
I only just read that.
WHUT
I remember a time when long lived famous and well established bands were headliners. Then it got commercialized by this whole '-core whatever' fad. I bet some day it will be something like Gamma Ray opening for BFMV..
Well, BFMV are one of the biggest bands in a long time and are doing a sell out Arena tour this year.
Very, very few bands can do that.
I remember being pissed off when MCR headlined Download in 2007 when Megadeth or Slayer were playing the same day lower down. But you have to realise that
the organisers need something to make people buy tickets. They're not going to make any money with Kreator, Overkill and Dark Tranquility headlining. Thats why we see the same festival headliners time and again.
Anyway, deathcore, meh. Let the scene kids with their ridiculous 30mm plugs have their fun.
White Chapel sounds so generic to me. It's right there with Suicide Silence.
All these deathcore bands (Is that the "correct" genre?) sound the same.
I'm not trying to genre-bash. It's just the truth.
My personal opinion, I can't see the talent in a death-whatever band. It's basically "Lets get heavy as possible."
Idk. Not my style.
I've listened to all of their "This is Exile" album quite a few times because of friends. Needless to say it doesn't stick with me.
You just have to listen to the talented deathcore bands. like
Veil of Maya
Born of Osiris
After the Burial
Conducting From the Grave
Burning the Masses is pretty good.
Wretched
As Blood Runs Black...bands that actually have melody and stuff. i agree with bands like this though. suicide silence whitechapel impending doom despised icon. yuck.
I saw Whitechapel for the first time when they were the opening act on a Summer Slaughter tour a few years ago. No one had heard of them and they were pretty terrific for the opening band with no one paying attention to them.
I kind of enjoyed This Is Exile. It was pretty simple but it flowed very well and had some good groove to it. The last time I saw them was at Ottobar in Baltimore with Job For a Cowboy and Cattle Decapitation and dear god were they horrible. The drummer was completely out of sync and the guitarists sounded like they played the same open chords over and over. Josh Elmore is the ONLY guitarist for Cattle Decap and was a million times better than all three Whitechapel guitarists combined, in terms of both presence and sound.
I listened to this album on my way to work this morning. Did they even have to record for this? Sounds like they took all the notes from This Is Exile and rearranged them in a less appealing order. It lacks the groove that made This Is Exile contagious even though it lacked technical prowess.
I try not to be a music snob, but I associate this type of music as an alternative to rap. Hot Topic latches on to this style as the current music that gets 14 year olds to spend their money. If you enjoy this, more power to you. But to me it is just a bunch of rehashed breakdowns and will be the last time I bother listening to this band. Not sure how these guys got big when there are a million other bands that sound the same.
You just have to listen to the talented deathcore bands. like
Veil of Maya
Born of Osiris
After the Burial
Conducting From the Grave
Burning the Masses is pretty good.
Wretched
As Blood Runs Black Sumatra
The Faceless
Man Must Die
bands that actually have melody and stuff.
people, we shouldn't argue genres (tho there are some really ty deathcore bands) we should be proud for any from of metal, instead of saying "**** suicide silence" or "**** deathcore" we should say "**** mainstream pop" or "**** justin beiber". just because some bands dont have wut you call talent (i think system of a down has almost no talent) dont mean we should hate the whole genre, we should be proud that we dont rap or sing with a mic that connects to your ear so you could dance. lol
The reason that many metalheads are against these "deathcore" bands is because it puts "metal" into a target-market category and is then produced only for the sake of making money. Have you ever walked into a Hot Topic store? Have you ever seen a stereotypical deathcore fanboy? You might notice that it all seems manufactured to appeal to trend followers instead of being inventive. (Real) Metal bands like Cynic and Opeth create music because they want to create art. They don't care about selling a lot of units but about sending a message and displaying their talents through their art. Deathcore (for the most part, not ALL of it) is based on copying other bands and rehashing their sounds so that the new band can make money. The tree of influences looks like the family tree of a trailer-park family. Despite this, there are still plenty of good "real" metal bands out there, and there will always be fans to support metal as an art, quia multi sumus.
It's just music, and people are going to like what people are going to like, if this wasn't the case then Lady Gaga wouldn't exist.
Exactly, some people like this music. No reason for everyone to start bashing deathcore, deathcore is 'real' music for some. Its all a matter of opinion and taste, and if you dont like it, its really not youre problem.
people, we shouldn't argue genres (tho there are some really ty deathcore bands) we should be proud for any from of metal, instead of saying "**** suicide silence" or "**** deathcore" we should say "**** mainstream pop" or "**** justin beiber". just because some bands dont have wut you call talent (i think system of a down has almost no talent) dont mean we should hate the whole genre, we should be proud that we dont rap or sing with a mic that connects to your ear so you could dance. lolThe reason that many metalheads are against these "deathcore" bands is because it puts "metal" into a target-market category and is then produced only for the sake of making money. Have you ever walked into a Hot Topic store? Have you ever seen a stereotypical deathcore fanboy? You might notice that it all seems manufactured to appeal to trend followers instead of being inventive. (Real) Metal bands like Cynic and Opeth create music because they want to create art. They don't care about selling a lot of units but about sending a message and displaying their talents through their art. Deathcore (for the most part, not ALL of it) is based on copying other bands and rehashing their sounds so that the new band can make money. The tree of influences looks like the family tree of a trailer-park family. Despite this, there are still plenty of good "real" metal bands out there, and there will always be fans to support metal as an art, quia multi sumus.
To an extent I agree with you, but I feel like Whitechapel separate themselves (if only marginally) from shit bands like Suicide Silence and The Acacia Strain because they are rather creative. There are of lot interesting leads on this record. The Drumming is also much more creative than This is Exile. I agree with your point if you're referring to This is Exile, but this record is definitely a bit more experimental.
I've been a fan since I saw them early 2007, before Zach and Kevin were in it. I love listening to The Somatic Defilement and This Is Exile. I was so pumped when I heard about this back in December. Personally, I was not as impressed with this album. There wasn't as many catchy riffs or breakdowns. I think they focused to much on structure, and the guitar work just was not technical enough for me. I don't hate the album, but it's not my favorite as I expected it to be.
Chino Moreno's vocals on reprogrammed to hate are ****ing beastly. For the most part, I don't listen to much deathcore, but Chino's presence on this album made me want to hear it.
"Reprogrammed to Hate" is probably the best song on this cd, in my opinion. Good groove, beastly lyrics. Then seems to kind of blend together until "Murder Sermon". Definitely loving the better mixing and Phil's vocal work. Way better job at enunciating. Overall though, it's been a good cd to throw in and let play til the end while I'm at work so nobody bitches about Fleshgod Apocalypse.
As far as "deathcore" and the genre wars go, I really couldn't care less. It's like any other genre, it's all in what you prefer.
Dear God is this like a Stephen King story or should I prep the .45 caliber aspirin? I mean, I liked some of the stuff I heard off of This Is Exile, but you do NOT bump Whitechapel to headline over the band that was a primary influence to starting that ****ing genre.
This is backwards like Iron Maiden playing a three song set to open for Lady Gaga. It's madness. Utter insanity.
But then, Vital Remains opens at like every show they play at. I just saw them at the opening slot for a show, under Carnifex, Veil Of Maya, All Shall Perish, The Red Chord, and The Faceless. So maybe that's just that then.
I just don't get the genre debate. Scenie-weenies will call it "deathcore" because that's what's "in," but 20 and 30 somethings refuse to call it "metal." How in the hell is this not "metal?" As far as I'm concerned, anything with harsh vocals, lots of double bass drumwork, bass drops up the wah-zoo, and Drop-A riffing is metal.
I just don't get the genre debate. Scenie-weenies will call it "deathcore" because that's what's "in," but 20 and 30 somethings refuse to call it "metal." How in the hell is this not "metal?" As far as I'm concerned, anything with harsh vocals, lots of double bass drumwork, bass drops up the wah-zoo, and Drop-A riffing is metal.
lol @ these ****-tards. You have to be deaf to say that any deathcore band sounds like the rest. The same goes for regular death metal bands, none of em sound the same.
"hay this sound sounds like every other sound!" ... ****ing retards.
When are people gonna realize that some people like things that other people dont? I think all the rap/hip hop stuff sounds the same, so I dont listen to it. I dont type kajillions of characters about how much I dont like it.
Anyways, the album in my opinion, is pretty good. they still got the brutality and grooves and all the good stuff people like whitechapel for. I like this is exile more because...IDK. I think in this album they knda lost something, but I cant place my finger on it. Solid album though. 8.
Punk led to hardcore, a simply heavier sounding style of punk music. Hadcore music then gave it's influence to metal creating metalcore. but then every style subgenre and form of music, basically any prefix, got the "-core" simply because it has hints of a hardcore style of music to it. it doesnt matter what comes before it,the "-core" simply means it came from hardcore. hows that for history, kitties?
People throw core behind everything with rhythmic sections in it. It's all heavy music. Just enjoy it. lol
I used to think bands like Whitechapel were a joke. But then I listened to Possession and This is Exile and I was just blown away. Now I listen to these guys everyday. I'm even listening to them right now!
people, we shouldn't argue genres (tho there are some really shitty deathcore bands) we should be proud for any from of metal, instead of saying "**** suicide silence" or "**** deathcore" we should say "**** mainstream pop" or "**** justin beiber". just because some bands dont have wut you call talent (i think system of a down has almost no talent) dont mean we should hate the whole genre, we should be proud that we dont rap or sing with a mic that connects to your ear so you could dance. lol
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Too right, shame this band is infact in those masses.