This is a guitar that makes me feel excited to play it. That's the best quality to look for in a guitar; if your heart skips a beat when you pick it up, take it home. If you're into progressive metal or djent then you should at the very least play this guitar.
LTD H-308
Reviewed by:
ticklemeemo, on november 15, 2012 2 of 3 people found this review helpful
Price paid: $ 630
Purchased from: Guitar Center
Features: Before I get started reviewing, let me get this out of the way. This guitar is so stunningly sexy it is ridiculous. I'm so happy after purchasing it, absolutely no regrets; despite the fact that I sold two old guitars and an amp to get it.
My guitar is a 2011 model, of course, that came from the factory to my local Guitar Center. They had it on display at the very front of the store, but it was only there for a day before I bought it. Mahogany body, maple neck, rosewood fingerboard. This makes for an interesting combination; the maple neck gives notes extra spring which takes away some of the muddy-ness that I found in the Schecter C-8. It's pretty bare on extra features, with only EMG 808s, a 3-way pickup selector, and master tone and volume knobs, but it makes up for this in sheer playability and tone. Compared to the C-8 (I wasn't able to try any of the Ibanez 8-string models) the extra neck cutout and maple neck give easier access to the higher frets of the low strings, and extra pop to the notes all the way down the fretboard. While the C-8 has locking tuners, which are a huge factor with 8-strings, the H-308 sounds so much better. Some people say that the 25.5" scale is too short, but I don't have any problem with it. Play it and you won't notice a problem.
The body is a pretty general super-strat type, blacked-out completely. Black satin finish, matte black hardware, and dark-colored square inlays on the frets. The only colors are the pearloid binding and LTD logo on the headstock. The binding looks almost camouflage, which is odd, but I like it. // 8
Sound: I play djent. Mostly progressive metal and jazz, but I also play blues a fair bit. This guitar is definitely not suited for blues, but it still pulls a decent bluesy tone from the bridge pickup. I tune G-B-E-A-D-G-B-E, and I like the tone I get.
I run this through a Peavey XXX and a 4x12 oversized B-52 cab, personally. I ran it through a Peavey 6505+ and the 60 watt Vypyr, Fender Twin, Vox AC15, Marshall 1987X, and a Mesa Boogie Triple Rectifier at the store. I can't say it sounded anything less that superb on any of them, even the Vypyr. Every note is articulate, on all frets, cleans are full and jazzy, distorted tones are clean and chords ring out clearly. The EMG 808s are great pickups. The only thing I can really mark it down on is that it's best suited to metal and jazz. Rock, country, and other styles are possible, just not practical. And there are other guitars better suited to those styles. // 9
Action, Fit & Finish: The guitar was set-up by the Guitar Center tech, because it was a main display model. I know the guy at my store, and he does a great job. Legato playing and tapping are just easier on this guitar. The hardware seems stable, the knobs turn smoothly and don't crackle. The finish seems to be very thick, and since it's matte it won't show scratches or scuff marks like some of my other guitars. I didn't need to play around with anything, because it was set up perfectly when I bought it. // 9
Reliability & Durability: I haven't played a show with this guitar yet, I just got it, but it feels nigh indestructible. I doubt I'll have any problems with the body or hardware. I've never had a set-through neck guitar before, but I like it a lot. I have sustain for days, easy access, articulation, and all-around great tone. I've only owned it for about a week, so I can't say anything about long-term reliability, but it feels even more solid than my old Ibanez RG, and those things are tanks. // 9
Impression: I know I sound like a 12-year old with his first guitar in this review, but it just really is a great guitar. I've never walked into a store and plopped down $700 after playing a guitar for 30 minutes. This is a guitar that makes me feel excited to play it. That's the best quality to look for in a guitar; if your heart skips a beat when you pick it up, take it home. All of my friends are jealous, and I'm the only person in my area with an 8-string. If you're into progressive metal or djent bands like: Born Of Osiris, Animals As Leaders, Scale The Summit, TesseracT, Periphery, Uneven Structure, The Contortionist, etc. then you should at the very least play this guitar. // 10
LTD H-308
Reviewed by:
PrimitiveGuitar, on november 15, 2012 1 of 2 people found this review helpful
Price paid: $ 1500
Purchased from: Rockshop
Features: 2012 edition, made in China. I brought this guitar 1 day after it had been brought into the shop. 24 XJ frets 25.5" scale. Set-Thru Construction. Mahogany Body, maple Neck, rosewood Fingerboard. 54mm Standard Nut. ESP Tuners, non locking. Fixed Bridge. EMG 808 active pickups. Neck and bridge. Black Satin Finish, Black Satin Hardware. Master Volume, 3-Way Switch, master Tone, sadly no coil tap
Accessibility to battery at the back could be a bit easier as you have to take two screws out on the back to be able to get it out. But I suppose it could be a lot worse (like on some Agile guitars you have to remove the whole back plate to change it, imagine doing that during a gig!)
I found this Guitar to be very easy to play. I have only ever played 6 string guitars before and I was worried that I would not be able to get used to the neck of an 8 string. This guitar made that seem very easy as it has a very thin contour you shaped neck. It has a very nice cutaway for access to the higher frets. This is one of the main reasons that I brought it over other brands and models that I played. I played a Schecter Damien Elite 8 and the access to higher frets was terrible due to the bolt on neck, where as this guitar has a very easy to play set through neck
I'm giving this an 9/10 because I really like the neck and the beautiful finish of the guitar. The stock pickups are decent but I want to replace them as they don't suit my tone. // 9
Sound: I run this through a Peavey 6505, DigiTech Bad Monkey tube overdrive, Boss Equalizer GE-7 and I run the amps distortion. This only problem with this is that a noise gate is necessary but this is in no way a fault of the pickups.
I play a lot of progressive and djent as well as jazz, blues and almost anything else. The pickups are best suited for metal and the front pickup can give a real warm fresh bluesy sound. However the pickups lack the attack to give that real defined Djent sound. However that may also be due to my setup so don't be put off by this. The pickups take the low F# very well and I have had this tuned to a double drop D and it still sounded reasonably good. Good pickups and wood for a good sound and sustain. However there are some other pickups that I would much prefer on this guitar, like 8 string Duncan Blackouts. // 8
Action, Fit & Finish: The paint job is Pretty much perfect except for a few hardly noticeable bumps under the paint on the back. The binding looks SUPERB. Reasonably well set up. Could do with a higher gauge of strings, bridge is set up well but the frets buzz in a few places possibly due to some frets needing to be filed more? But that may just be because of the low gauge of strings (I was not told the gauge they came with or the brand). 7/10, well set up but low string gauge and minimal fret buzz an some places. // 7
Reliability & Durability: I haven't had this guitar for very long but the hardware seems really solid. The Tuning pegs hold the strings in tune really well and the volume and tone knobs are smooth as. I would gig this guitar very happily as it seems to be a very reliable guitar (as long as you change the battery for the active pickups before the gig) the only thing I would do to this guitar to gig it would be to get strap locks for it. Very reliable. // 9
Impression: I have been playing for about 5 years now playing anything from Jazz to djent and anything in between and this guitar perfectly suits what I want to do for the price I wanted to pay. The other guitars I own are; An ESP HORIZON, and the neck shapes of these guitars really match so it doesn't take much to get used to playing between them. I also have a Jackson Dinky, an Ibanez AEG8E (electric acoustic). Out of all my guitars I would rate this right up there with my $3000 dollar ESP Horizon just because I love having a guitar with the extra strings that is still so easy to play.
If this guitar was stolen or lost, I would die inside, then go straight back to the shop and buy another one. It is such a nice looking guitar and for an 8 string it plays so easily, the neck is my favourite feature by far. I also played an Ibanez RG8, Damien Elite 8 and the LTD SC-208. The stock pickups on the Ibanez RG8 were terrible and had a very muddy unclear tone.
The Damien Elite 8 sounded really great but I couldn't stand the neck as the sound the shape hard to play and it had a huge bolt on neck that really got in the way, which I found disappointing as it was more expensive then the LTD 308. The LTD SC208 was a very cheap guitar (about $800 NZD) for that price it sounded good but the wood was cheap (basswood) and the hardware was cheap (the tone and volume knobs would seize up) However if someone was looking for a cheap 8 string I would recommend the LTD SC208.
IF ANYONE IS WANTING TO BREAK THE SIX STRING BARRIER OR GO UP TO AN EIGHT FROM A SEVEN I DEFIANTLY RECOMMEND THE LTD H-308, IT IS A TRULY AWESOME GUITAR. Thanks for reading. Feel free to rate and ask questions. // 10
That's a horrible guitar, The Schecter ATX C8 is much better, Any Ibanez 8 string is better. If you want a real 8 string go for an Agile multi scale 27-30. With a 25.5 scale, your tones become muddy and you can't hear you're sloppiness. Especially with djent, which is a sound, not a genre. My 6 string is a 25.5 with 12-56 set strings on it. Lowest it'll go is Dropped B. 7 Strings are at least 26.5-27 8 strings are supposed to be 27-30. Though you had an accurate review, just on a bad guitar.
I play djent and progressive rock. I know what im talking about, I also work with guitars all day. Phoenix, could very well be basing it off looks or his somewhat knowledge of guitars.
Djent727 wrote:
With a 25.5 scale, your tones become muddy and you can't hear you're sloppiness. Especially with djent, which is a sound, not a genre. My 6 string is a 25.5 with 12-56 set strings on it. Lowest it'll go is Dropped B. 7 Strings are at least 26.5-27 8 strings are supposed to be 27-30
First of all I don't think that "not being able to hear your own sloppiness" is really the issue with a muddy tone (most people actually prefer not to hear their mistakes, lawl): it's that your TONE ITSELF tends to sound very sloppy, which is actually more of a problem if you're a skilled player because your "tightness" and accuracy don't come out as well due to the lack of definition
As for the "the more strings your guitar has, the larger the scale should be"-theory: I guess that makes sense BUT only if you were to use the same string gauge on every guitar (+ the extra string of course). There really is no such thing as a "rule" stating that 7-strings or 8-strings are "supposed" to carry a certain neck scale: if you buy a 25.5" 7-string you can easily compensate for the lack of tension by switching to a heavier gauge
8-string players don't have a lot of pre-packaged string gauges to choose from, and that's not likely to change since these guitars are pretty rare (although who knows: not too long ago it used to be pretty hard to find 7-string packs)... but that's why the Ernie Balls are kind of an "allround" gauge: their pack of 8-strings starts off with a .010 high e-string which might seem a little bit on the "light" side, but the low E is actually a .054 which is quite beefy, which is why you can use these strings on a 25.5" neck as well. You'd certainly be raising a valid point if you stated that a large number of people won't be satisfied with the results, but don't go calling it a horrible guitar just for that reason
I’m just gonna assume your privileged (not being sarcastic: I’m actually kinda jealous) situation of working with guitars all day has brought you some 8-string experience (I mean, it’d be EXTRA silly if you hadn’t ‘cos why comment on this review if you have no clue what you’re talking about) in which case I’m guessing you’re already used to combining different string sets to get your own custom gauge because there’s no way those regular 8-string sets are satisfactory for you. Now just imagine someone else combining those Not Even Slinkys you use on your regular guitar (which are like the heaviest "regular" strings EB offers out of their like 8 standard gauges) with the 2 lowest strings from the regular 8-string package: I’m pretty sure a lot of people would find that setup pretty damn extreme when encountered on a guitar with a 27”+ scale neck (especially those who aren't into genres that end with "core"), and even on this guitar they might still feel it’s a tad on the radical side (like the guy who reviewed this instrument and doesn’t seem to have a problem with it)
So TLDR: for those people who think a 25.5” scale neck is too short for an 8-string: you might feel different about the feature were you to employ heavier strings...
Djent727 wrote:
With a 25.5 scale, your tones become muddy and you can't hear you're sloppiness. Especially with djent, which is a sound, not a genre. My 6 string is a 25.5 with 12-56 set strings on it. Lowest it'll go is Dropped B. 7 Strings are at least 26.5-27 8 strings are supposed to be 27-30
First of all I don't think that "not being able to hear your own sloppiness" is really the issue with a muddy tone (most people actually prefer not to hear their mistakes, lawl): it's that your TONE ITSELF tends to sound very sloppy, which is actually more of a problem if you're a skilled player because your "tightness" and accuracy don't come out as well due to the lack of definition
As for the "the more strings your guitar has, the larger the scale should be"-theory: I guess that makes sense BUT only if you were to use the same string gauge on every guitar (+ the extra string of course). There really is no such thing as a "rule" stating that 7-strings or 8-strings are "supposed" to carry a certain neck scale: if you buy a 25.5" 7-string you can easily compensate for the lack of tension by switching to a heavier gauge
8-string players don't have a lot of pre-packaged string gauges to choose from, and that's not likely to change since these guitars are pretty rare (although who knows: not too long ago it used to be pretty hard to find 7-string packs)... but that's why the Ernie Balls are kind of an "allround" gauge: their pack of 8-strings starts off with a .010 high e-string which might seem a little bit on the "light" side, but the low E is actually a .054 which is quite beefy, which is why you can use these strings on a 25.5" neck as well. You'd certainly be raising a valid point if you stated that a large number of people won't be satisfied with the results, but don't go calling it a horrible guitar just for that reason
I’m just gonna assume your privileged (not being sarcastic: I’m actually kinda jealous) situation of working with guitars all day has brought you some 8-string experience (I mean, it’d be EXTRA silly if you hadn’t ‘cos why comment on this review if you have no clue what you’re talking about) in which case I’m guessing you’re already used to combining different string sets to get your own custom gauge because there’s no way those regular 8-string sets are satisfactory for you. Now just imagine someone else combining those Not Even Slinkys you use on your regular guitar (which are like the heaviest "regular" strings EB offers out of their like 8 standard gauges) with the 2 lowest strings from the regular 8-string package: I’m pretty sure a lot of people would find that setup pretty damn extreme when encountered on a guitar with a 27”+ scale neck (especially those who aren't into genres that end with "core"), and even on this guitar they might still feel it’s a tad on the radical side (like the guy who reviewed this instrument and doesn’t seem to have a problem with it)
So TLDR: for those people who think a 25.5” scale neck is too short for an 8-string: you might feel different about the feature were you to employ heavier strings
So TLDR: for those people who think a 25.5” scale neck is too short for an 8-string: you might feel different about the feature were you to employ heavier strings
Have you ever played a 25.5" 8-string with the appropriate string gauges? The lowest string (and the one below it) are almost unplayable past the 7th fret, because the string gauge is so thick that it bounces off the frets. It's abhorrently uncomfortable to play, because in order to dodge fret buzz, you have to push down extremely hard on the string. As you know, pushing down that hard on a string will also bend the note.
So, sure... there's no RULE saying you need a larger scale, but if you want an extended-range guitar that's comfortable to play all over the neck, and retains tension without sacrificing playability on the low strings... you're going to need an extended scale.
Have you ever played a 25.5" 8-string with the appropriate string gauges? The lowest string (and the one below it) are almost unplayable past the 7th fret, because the string gauge is so thick that it bounces off the frets. It's abhorrently uncomfortable to play, because in order to dodge fret buzz, you have to push down extremely hard on the string. As you know, pushing down that hard on a string will also bend the note.
So, sure... there's no RULE saying you need a larger scale, but if you want an extended-range guitar that's comfortable to play all over the neck, and retains tension without sacrificing playability on the low strings... you're going to need an extended scale.
So true, if you try to drop the low b on a 25.5 scale 7 string below Ab it often won't intonate properly, and fret buzz is almost a certainty with the thicker string that you NEED to hold a drop A or Ab tuning. Plus longer cales with thinner strings sound more articulate than shorter scales and thicker strings. Why do you think bands like Meshuggah use 29" scales on their 8 strings? Even them playing that low F sounds clear
im with steele on this...extended range is the way to go if you feel like playing anything down the fretboard. HOWEVER i checked this guitar out at guitar center and it didnt sound muddy at all through a marshall half stack...
Have you ever played a 25.5" 8-string with the appropriate string gauges? The lowest string (and the one below it) are almost unplayable past the 7th fret, because the string gauge is so thick that it bounces off the frets. It's abhorrently uncomfortable to play, because in order to dodge fret buzz, you have to push down extremely hard on the string. As you know, pushing down that hard on a string will also bend the note
Not really: I've only toyed around with one of these (actually, I think it was a 25.5" Carvin) but I understand what you're on about -> I have been helping a friend set up some of his guitars with those Zakk Wylde strings (which are like .011 - .060's) and its a real b*tch to adjust the action without having 'em buzz like crazy
Still, even though I've never been a fan of those uber thick "ship mast wire rope" strings in the first place I always opt for 7-strings with a 25.5” scale and bigger string gauge. Just a matter of preference, I really don’t like guitars with bass-like necks. And I’m pretty sure I’m not the only one, otherwise they pbbly wouldn’t make these guitars in the first place. If made properly there usually is a market for "untypical" instruments such as this one
shwilly wrote:
Not really: I've only toyed around with one of these (actually, I think it was a 25.5" Carvin) but I understand what you're on about -> I have been helping a friend set up some of his guitars with those Zakk Wylde strings (which are like .011 - .060's) and its a real b*tch to adjust the action without having 'em buzz like crazy
Still, even though I've never been a fan of those uber thick "ship mast wire rope" strings in the first place I always opt for 7-strings with a 25.5” scale and bigger string gauge. Just a matter of preference, I really don’t like guitars with bass-like necks. And I’m pretty sure I’m not the only one, otherwise they pbbly wouldn’t make these guitars in the first place. If made properly there usually is a market for "untypical" instruments such as this one
I actually do agree with you. I actually am selling my Agile 727, and bought an RG7321 because I find the longer scale to hinder my playing. Just more difficult to get from place to place.
Djent727 wrote:
With a 25.5 scale, your tones become muddy and you can't hear you're sloppiness. Especially with djent, which is a sound, not a genre. My 6 string is a 25.5 with 12-56 set strings on it. Lowest it'll go is Dropped B. 7 Strings are at least 26.5-27 8 strings are supposed to be 27-30
First of all I don't think that "not being able to hear your own sloppiness" is really the issue with a muddy tone (most people actually prefer not to hear their mistakes, lawl): it's that your TONE ITSELF tends to sound very sloppy, which is actually more of a problem if you're a skilled player because your "tightness" and accuracy don't come out as well due to the lack of definition
As for the "the more strings your guitar has, the larger the scale should be"-theory: I guess that makes sense BUT only if you were to use the same string gauge on every guitar (+ the extra string of course). There really is no such thing as a "rule" stating that 7-strings or 8-strings are "supposed" to carry a certain neck scale: if you buy a 25.5" 7-string you can easily compensate for the lack of tension by switching to a heavier gauge
8-string players don't have a lot of pre-packaged string gauges to choose from, and that's not likely to change since these guitars are pretty rare (although who knows: not too long ago it used to be pretty hard to find 7-string packs)... but that's why the Ernie Balls are kind of an "allround" gauge: their pack of 8-strings starts off with a .010 high e-string which might seem a little bit on the "light" side, but the low E is actually a .054 which is quite beefy, which is why you can use these strings on a 25.5" neck as well. You'd certainly be raising a valid point if you stated that a large number of people won't be satisfied with the results, but don't go calling it a horrible guitar just for that reason
I’m just gonna assume your privileged (not being sarcastic: I’m actually kinda jealous) situation of working with guitars all day has brought you some 8-string experience (I mean, it’d be EXTRA silly if you hadn’t ‘cos why comment on this review if you have no clue what you’re talking about) in which case I’m guessing you’re already used to combining different string sets to get your own custom gauge because there’s no way those regular 8-string sets are satisfactory for you. Now just imagine someone else combining those Not Even Slinkys you use on your regular guitar (which are like the heaviest "regular" strings EB offers out of their like 8 standard gauges) with the 2 lowest strings from the regular 8-string package: I’m pretty sure a lot of people would find that setup pretty damn extreme when encountered on a guitar with a 27”+ scale neck (especially those who aren't into genres that end with "core"), and even on this guitar they might still feel it’s a tad on the radical side (like the guy who reviewed this instrument and doesn’t seem to have a problem with it)
So TLDR: for those people who think a 25.5” scale neck is too short for an 8-string: you might feel different about the feature were you to employ heavier strings...
Having heavier strings requires a longer scale -_____- sooo ipso facto. 25.5 Is too damn short for an 8 string, borderline ok for a 7
Having heavier strings requires a longer scale -_____- sooo ipso facto. 25.5 Is too damn short for an 8 string, borderline ok for a 7
Where does it say that? Is there a rule about that?
I use regular 10-59 on my baritone sevenstring, works like a charm. I have just recently started using them, before that I used 10-52, and I tune down to A.
But what could anyone expect from someone with a username with "djent" in it? Come on... You know yourselves that you are the hipsters of progressive metal...
i tune to Ab on a 6 string..had to make some tweaks...but sounds great and I use 14-70 gauged strings. Too broke to afford the seven that i want, but my Ibby RG drops tunings just fine
How many of you talking about the scale length has actually played an 8 string for that matter?
27" is where it's at, I have an 8 string, I'd like to have a 30" scale, that ain't gonna happen unless I get a custom. But seriously, don’t take my word for it, hop on over to SS.ORG and see what they have to say about scale length on 8 strings.
25.5” is alright for a 7, but for an 8, not so much. Sure, you can compensate it with thicker strings, just like you could if you wanted to tune Octave E on a six string that wasn't baritone, but the bottom line is the 27" is more flexible.
I've had a .059 on a 25.5” scale seven string and the B being dropped to A didn't sound good at all with the .059. So how would 25.5” scale be good for an 8 string if the F# and B were dropped to E and A? It would muddy up pretty bad. Sure, a .070 or .072 for the A and a .080 for the E would remedy it, but if you wanted to drop the notes further, you’d lose the flexibility that the 27” would provide.
DoubleBassCrash wrote:
How many of you talking about the scale length has actually played an 8 string for that matter?
27" is where it's at, I have an 8 string, I'd like to have a 30" scale, that ain't gonna happen unless I get a custom. But seriously, don’t take my word for it, hop on over to SS.ORG and see what they have to say about scale length on 8 strings.
25.5” is alright for a 7, but for an 8, not so much. Sure, you can compensate it with thicker strings, just like you could if you wanted to tune Octave E on a six string that wasn't baritone, but the bottom line is the 27" is more flexible.
I've had a .059 on a 25.5” scale seven string and the B being dropped to A didn't sound good at all with the .059. So how would 25.5” scale be good for an 8 string if the F# and B were dropped to E and A? It would muddy up pretty bad. Sure, a .070 or .072 for the A and a .080 for the E would remedy it, but if you wanted to drop the notes further, you’d lose the flexibility that the 27” would provide.
Well, hello there. You a memeber?
And my comment below, was not directed at you, but you were too fast with writing yours...
DoubleBassCrash wrote:
How many of you talking about the scale length has actually played an 8 string for that matter?
27" is where it's at, I have an 8 string, I'd like to have a 30" scale, that ain't gonna happen unless I get a custom. But seriously, don’t take my word for it, hop on over to SS.ORG and see what they have to say about scale length on 8 strings.
25.5” is alright for a 7, but for an 8, not so much. Sure, you can compensate it with thicker strings, just like you could if you wanted to tune Octave E on a six string that wasn't baritone, but the bottom line is the 27" is more flexible.
I've had a .059 on a 25.5” scale seven string and the B being dropped to A didn't sound good at all with the .059. So how would 25.5” scale be good for an 8 string if the F# and B were dropped to E and A? It would muddy up pretty bad. Sure, a .070 or .072 for the A and a .080 for the E would remedy it, but if you wanted to drop the notes further, you’d lose the flexibility that the 27” would provide.
Well, hello there. You a memeber?
And my comment below, was not directed at you, but you were too fast with writing yours...
I do have an account @ SS, I don't post much, though. I knew you were talking to someone else, too, it's all groovy.
Still waiting for the day I see Meshuggah's signature 8 string limited run get released! ^_^, one of these days! Then I'll have two 8 strings I love tremendously!
DoubleBassCrash wrote:
I do have an account @ SS, I don't post much, though. I knew you were talking to someone else, too, it's all groovy.
Still waiting for the day I see Meshuggah's signature 8 string limited run get released! ^_^, one of these days! Then I'll have two 8 strings I love tremendously!
Weren't they going to be like 5000$+ or something?
DoubleBassCrash wrote:
I do have an account @ SS, I don't post much, though. I knew you were talking to someone else, too, it's all groovy.
Yep, but I'm hoping more along the lines of the 3.5-4k range, but it's a price I'd be happy to pay, too bad they won't offer it a la Fredrik Thordendal ICEMAN, it'll still be a wicked RG. My only gripe with it is the electronics, one bridge pup & a volume knob, no tone knob ~_~, but regardless, it'll be a kickass instrument!
Still waiting for the day I see Meshuggah's signature 8 string limited run get released! ^_^, one of these days! Then I'll have two 8 strings I love tremendously!
Weren't they going to be like 5000$+ or something?
DoubleBassCrash wrote:
I do have an account @ SS, I don't post much, though. I knew you were talking to someone else, too, it's all groovy.
Still waiting for the day I see Meshuggah's signature 8 string limited run get released! ^_^, one of these days! Then I'll have two 8 strings I love tremendously!
Weren't they going to be like 5000$+ or something?
woopsy, haha, put that in quotes
Yep, but I'm hoping more along the lines of the 3.5-4k range, but it's a price I'd be happy to pay, too bad they won't offer it a la Fredrik Thordendal ICEMAN, it'll still be a wicked RG. My only gripe with it is the electronics, one bridge pup & a volume knob, no tone knob ~_~, but regardless, it'll be a kickass instrument!
That's a horrible guitar, The Schecter ATX C8 is much better, Any Ibanez 8 string is better. If you want a real 8 string go for an Agile multi scale 27-30. With a 25.5 scale, your tones become muddy and you can't hear you're sloppiness. Especially with djent, which is a sound, not a genre. My 6 string is a 25.5 with 12-56 set strings on it. Lowest it'll go is Dropped B. 7 Strings are at least 26.5-27 8 strings are supposed to be 27-30. Though you had an accurate review, just on a bad guitar.
How far do you want to drop the notes? For going below E, you WILL need a bigger scale. But if you dont need to go that low 25.5 works fine. I've got an H-51 in A standard with 14's thats tighter than an MH-100 in E standard with 9's. And its perfectly playable with zero buzzing all the way down to G.
What you are talking about is less about quality and more about personal preference, like the debate on 34'' scale basses vs 30'' scale basses. Both get the job done, albeit in different ways.
So TLDR: for those people who think a 25.5” scale neck is too short for an 8-string: you might feel different about the feature were you to employ heavier strings
Have you ever played a 25.5" 8-string with the appropriate string gauges? The lowest string (and the one below it) are almost unplayable past the 7th fret, because the string gauge is so thick that it bounces off the frets. It's abhorrently uncomfortable to play, because in order to dodge fret buzz, you have to push down extremely hard on the string. As you know, pushing down that hard on a string will also bend the note.
So, sure... there's no RULE saying you need a larger scale, but if you want an extended-range guitar that's comfortable to play all over the neck, and retains tension without sacrificing playability on the low strings... you're going to need an extended scale.
You don't know how to play guitar. You don't just press harder, you play closer to the fret. But that shouldn't be a problem, because if you play almost directly on the fret, you get a fine tone without having to press hard.
My buddy had one of these for a week. Build quality was great, but as a players guitar this is shit. If you actually plan on using all 8 strings look elsewhere. ESP has yet to learn that 25.5 does not work well on ERGs.
That's a horrible guitar, The Schecter ATX C8 is much better, Any Ibanez 8 string is better. If you want a real 8 string go for an Agile multi scale 27-30. With a 25.5 scale, your tones become muddy and you can't hear you're sloppiness. Especially with djent, which is a sound, not a genre. My 6 string is a 25.5 with 12-56 set strings on it. Lowest it'll go is Dropped B. 7 Strings are at least 26.5-27 8 strings are supposed to be 27-30. Though you had an accurate review, just on a bad guitar
Plus all these people who hating hating on me because i play "djent" and they say its not a genre, i never referred to it as a genre. its a sound, style and technique, Suprised i got so many comments in one day :O
Also this was the only 8 string within my price range that i actually liked ( due to some terrible features on other guitars ) and since it was the only one i found that i liked i chose to buy it, despite the 25.5" scale. Plus for someone who has never owned an 8 string or baritone guitar before getting used to the neck of the 8 AS WELL AS the baritone scale would be a bit too much do you think? ( especially since i don't have the largest of hands ). And in the end it all comes down to personal preference. I couldn't care about my 25.5" scale, sure it buzzes a bit in some places ( with stock strings as i haven't experimented with any other yet ) but i really don't mind that.
Just got one myself. Gotta say the scale is no problem for me, I run the low F# all the way up to the 12th fret no problem. But then again I just keep it in standard E, and I'm playing thrash, nothing progressive or "djent". This guitar is gorgeous, definitely easy to play, and makes the jump from a 6 to an 8 nearly effortless. The only thing I plan on doing is swappin' the pups for Blackouts.
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