22 frets, tune-o-matic bridge, 2 volume and 2 tone controls, 3 way pick up selector and burst bucker pros. Guitar comes with full plek set up, a computer set up measuring fret length and string distance, minimising fret buzz.
Les Paul Standard 2008
Reviewed by:
beanhead, on november 09, 2012 10 of 10 people found this review helpful
Price paid: £ 1600
Purchased from: dawsons
Features: 22 frets, tune-o-matic bridge, 2 volume and 2 tone controls, 3 way pick up selector and burst bucker pros. Guitar comes with full plek set up, a computer set up measuring fret length and string distance, minimising fret buzz. The 2008 model is so light and the neck is thicker on the bass side, so it fits the hand better than previous models. case and strap locks included. // 9
Sound: The enlarged neck tenon gives god-like sustain (the longest of any Gibson models) and the burstbuckers can cope with plenty of gain for metal heads. It really shines when you drop the effects aswell, warm and colourful sounds resonate - this thing is versatile. // 9
Action, Fit & Finish: Set up too low for gauge 10 strings. the strings grind on the frets, limiting bending, but nothing a little bridge heightening will not resolve. The tone and volume controls and put on wonky (not what you expect for £1600) and the volume pots are unresponsive. turning them down from 10 to 3 makes no difference what'soever. // 8
Reliability & Durability: Solid build quality. Flawless binding. all round a quality crafted product. hardware should last (hopefully longer than epiphones), shouldn't need back up for a gig. being lighter than previous models, it does seem more fragile so be careful! fret wire is massive in height, should be years before a redressing or stoning is necessary. // 9
Impression: The most comfortable neck yet, wheter you play blues or heavy metal, this guitar will suit most your needs. would definately buy it again if lost or stolen. the build quality of the pots and electronics seem rushed but fortunately, it is made up by beautiful aesthetics and ground breaking ergonomics. Top guitar. // 9
Les Paul Standard 2008
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joey_dallas10, on november 09, 2012 2 of 2 people found this review helpful
Price paid: C$ 2500
Purchased from: long&maquede
Features: It's got 22 frets, 2 volume 2 tone, busrt bucker pro pickups and a 3 way pickup selector. the guitar comes with a Gibson hardcase, instuction book and tools for adjusting hadware. The guitar was made in 2008 in nashvile(I think). It also came with stock Gibson tuners with the greenish plastic covers that aren't that great for such an expensive guitar. // 9
Sound: This guitar kicks ass when it comes to sound and sound variety because it can play any style. Right now I'm usuing it out of a Line 6 spider 3 and it sounds great with a clean blues sound but Switch it to some heavy distortion and get ready to be blown away I play everything and I mean everything from classic rock led zepplin to the beautiful clean sound of the chilli peppers to the metal of the 80's and even lots of metalcore this guitar suits everything perfecty and comfortably. // 10
Action, Fit & Finish: This guitar was finished beautifully everything was proper, although factory set up wasn't to my standards the action was a little high the pickups were to low one of the strap buttons was loose but don't let that down you because most factory sey ups are shitty anyways. just take the guitar into your local guitar shop and have them set it up for you that's what I did and it's perfect. // 9
Reliability & Durability: everything about this guitar is built to last. ive played it Live many times without a backup unless its a big show ive played the guitar wen i was completly drunk Live and it withstands every kind of beating i give , but dont get me wrong i take care of this guitar like it was my kid // 10
Impression: This guitar is really worth the price, if you can't get a Gibson get a Epiphone in the 500 dollar price range those guitars are amazing I've been paying for since I was 9 and I'm now 19 so ten years if this thing gets stolen I'll kill someone and if I have the money I'll go get another 1 right away awesome guitar. // 10
Les Paul Standard 2008
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unregistered, on november 09, 2012 0 of 0 people found this review helpful
Price paid: $ 2050
Purchased from: Rainbow Guitars
Features: 2010 Iced Tea plus top, absolutely flawless flaming but I had to go through four or five of these to find one that I felt was "perfect", didn't come with strap locks which was a little confusing. Came with everything else needed, pick guard not installed (I appreciate the option of leaving it off). Within 2 months of ownership I've specifically used and been appreciative of every "locking" part, all great. Locking jack- does not rotate and need constant tightening. Tuning heads feel much tighter than any others I've used, due to the "improved ratio", I can't explain what exactly that means but for me it's a big improvement in the fine tuning department. You can get it in tune to within cents and, although after a couple days it will be off by about 5-10 cents, all the strings will still be in tune with each other. Fantastic. The neck, well that's the reason why I settled on this model, just go pick one up and play it. Do an AB comparison, like it or hate it there is a noticeable difference in feel; I find it incredibly comfortable. // 8
Sound: What I don't like first- everything at 10 the pickups are not equal in volume, despite variables like pickup height. Whatever. There are some tone spots that are "shrill" - tone 10 vol 10 on Bridge pickup, of course. There are some too mid rangy spots too, and mud when you're on neck alone with tone below 3. Chances are you will coax a sound you love with a single dial turn. Versatile, responsive, complex. It bites and grinds so pleasingly with gain, in fact I don't even touch my amp anymore, I control gain and volume with the guitar alone. Clean the Bridge sounds OK to PRETTY GOOD at best alone, but it's not really meant for that anyway. Middle or neck is where clean is meant to be experienced, absolutely smooth and buttery. // 9
Action, Fit & Finish: DON'T DO NOT DO NOT buy a guitar online and then complain when it isn't set up, it's psychotic and it misrepresents the guitar. Go find a good one in person, with your own hands and ears.
She was set up OK when I got her, but like 99.9% of guitars it needed tweaking to my liking. I personally set her up, not hard. I don't know what a longer neck tenon is responsible for, but usually I have to completely loosen my truss rods here in the AZ heat to acquire proper relief, not so with the 08 Standard. It's close, the truss rod, to being loosened to the point where no more is possible (like my other Gibsons) but it's not there; about another full rotation to loose city.
I had to scrape of some loose (incredibly loose) little paint smudges on the binding; I did it with my fingernail in less than a few seconds. The Fingerboard was a little dry as well but some fretboard honey cured that perfectly (it's been 2 months since, still no dryness).
There were a few of these I played where the flaming just didn't look right. It didn't match up as well as I'd like to see, but that's the reason I DIDN'T BUT IT ONLINE like an inexperienced half-stack.
Other than that, everything is ship shape. I noticed on a few of these the controls have a little resistive play. What I mean by this is that the tone and volume knobs do not want to stay at absolute 0 or 10: turn your tone to 0 and when you release the knob it turns to 0.02. Turn to 10 and it pulls back a little to 9.95. Nothing at all of a concern, but it's worth mentioning. // 7
Reliability & Durability: I've been beating the tar out of this thing. Gigging, hours of play a day at home or at practice. I'm active with it, just plain mean sometimes. I play the hell out of her and she seems to love it. The only thing I've noticed is without a pickguard I do scratch the finish occasionally, that's my bad. It's aquired a few nicks and bangs and it's only seemed to sound better as the days go by. Absolute gold standard. // 10
Impression: I play anything guitar intensive, all original material, 10 years playing. It would have been nice knowing I had to buy strap locks when I've read everywhere it comes with them, but I had a feeling looking at the little Gibson strap buttons in the shop, they didn't look like Dunlops so my bad again.
If she were stolen, yes absolutely I would replace it. I spent six months playing through different guitars to find mine- 2 months in I settled on a LP, a month before my purchase I settles on the 08 standard. For me she is perfect, I would replace her if she were stolen 10 times, everytime. It's love man.
If the 08 Standard isn't for you, great. If it is- find a good one. There are probably more less-than-great LP's out there than most of us would like to accept, so do your homework or end up like the knuckle dragers complaining online about how they were duped by GC online for being sent a dog of a guitar. // 9
Les Paul Standard 2008
Reviewed by:
BornToLooze, on november 09, 2012 0 of 1 people found this review helpful
Price paid: $ 2000
Purchased from: Guitar Center
Features: This has the usual Les Paul stuff, mahogany body, neck, flamed maple top, Grover tuners, 22 frets, 2 volume and 2 tones, an extra $1000 tacked on because of the name on the head stock. The neck is thick and kind of tear drop shaped so it fits your hand better. The pickups are Burstbuckers and instead of being soldered to the pots they have some kind of circuit board. The only bad thing is its chambered like all Les Pauls since I believe the early 80s, so it could be fuller sounding. And I'll go ahead and say I'm sorry if I upset anybody since I didn't rate it all 10s like your supposed to, but I don't think anything like that exists other than maybe some thing by that one guy that posts on here, Orsby or something (I'm bad with names). // 7
Sound: I play this through a 6505 and play all kinds of stuff like Metallica, Sabbath, Maiden, Assjack, Social Distortion, Deluhi, and I used to be in a church band. The bridge pickup sounds good for the most of the stuff I play, the neck pick up, not so good. It's really shrill sounding, but that might be because of my amp settings, I tweaked them a little and it started to sound better. Also when I'm on the clean channel its really thin sounding. I don't really care so much about the pickups though because I was planning on replacing them with a Phat Cat in the neck and a Bill Lawrence XL 500 in the bridge. But its an all mahogany guitar, so it has a darker sound which is what I'm going for. So for sound I would rate the bridge pickup as a 6 because its a good pickup just not what I want and the neck as a 2 because its complete shit. So for sound from the factory I would give it a 5, or with a pickup change an 8. // 5
Action, Fit & Finish: Honestly, I got this guitar 3 years ago, so I don't remember how it was set up when I got it, other than the neck was warped a little bit, but it was hanging on the wall in Guitar Center being played by God knows how many people so what do you expect? Unlike what somebody else said, my volume pots work fine, I guess the tone pots do, I never use them. The Grovers stay in tune good, its been a few weeks since I tuned it last and its still in tune. // 6
Reliability & Durability: I played in a church band for a couple years and it did fine. The hardware will last, the only problem it the locking tuner on the low E won't lock, but that's not the end of the world. I don't know about the strap buttons because I put Schallers on it when I got it. It is dependable and you could gig fine without a backup, but I wouldn't because the one time I didn't have a backup was the one time I broke a string. The finish is good and should last because even though its a nitro finish I think they have stuff in it to keep it from aging. I've been playing it nearly every day since I got it and the only damage is scratches on the back from my belt and a chip where I hit it on something. Since it asks if the finish is good enough to last I'm going to rate it an 8 since the finish is pretty tough, but I would probably rate it a 5 or 6 since I like the look of beat up guitars. // 8
Impression: I play a bunch of different kinds of metal, some rock, a little punk, and some church music every now and then. Its a good match for all of them. I've been playing like 7 or 8 years, so I have a pretty good idea of the sound I want. My other gear is my 6505, a Ltd Gus G Random Star, an Ltd F-50, a Washburn Idol and an Epiphone acoustic. Because unlike everybody else that does reviews on here, I would rather have a kicka-s amp and cheap guitars. I got this as a Christmas present from my dad because I wanted a Les Paul since I started playing and hates my "goofy a-s looking guitars". If it was stolen I wouldn't buy one again because there's no way in hell I could afford it. The best thing about this is the way the neck feels because of the teardrop shape, especially now that its getting worn in. When I was in Guitar Center trying them out, I played one just like it, same model same color, everything and it played like complete shit; the neck pickup sounded better though. The only thing I wish it had was new pickups. Once I get those this would probably be a 9, but I'm going to rate it a 7 because the only major flaw is the neck pickup. // 7
Les Paul Standard 2008
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unregistered, on november 09, 2012 0 of 2 people found this review helpful
Price paid: £ 1899
Purchased from: Andertons - Guildford
Features: USA made, this year. Tonepros tune o matic bridge and stop, 22 frets, two burstbucker pickups, flamed maple top, wine red finish, locking tuners, body binding, neck binding, scratch plate is included but you have to drill the holes (nice touch - i didn't want the scratchplate on so win win there!) two volume, 2 tones, 3 way pickups toggle, solderless pickup install, locking neutrik jack socket, hardcase that smells of vanilla...another nice touch. // 10
Sound: I think it sounds great hence the purchase. it's full and rich, plent of soul if you back of the volume and loads of bite if you don't. Setup is quite simple - straight into the amp which is a Bugera 333 head with 4x12 cab. Ok, not the best amp out there but turn down the treble quite alot and bring in the midrange and you've got a decent enough rock rig. I only use the lead channel and I use the volume on the guitar to vary the gain. There is a MXR Micro Amp in the FX loop to give a volume boost when needed. The Gibson sounds great though this. // 10
Action, Fit & Finish: Honestly setup is a metter of preference and unles you've got a custom instrument expect to do some adjustment. I normally have a very low action and the Gibson came out of the case with an action slightly higher than I might like but it's really comfortable and more playable than any guitar I've ever played so I've left it alone and lets be realistic it's not exactly hard to re-adjust. Pickup balance was fine. The finish is execptional, flawless. I played a couple in the shop and there were some that were beautiful to look at but take a closer look and there a little niggles here and there and bookmatching that wasn't spot on. There is the advantage of going to the store and picking your instrument, if you buy online and get something you are not quite happy with you know where you went wrong. // 10
Reliability & Durability: I have no doubt that this guitar will give me no trouble at all. I'm curious to see how the electronics fair in the longer term. Instead of being soldered by hand with good quality wire there is a printed cicruit board and the components including the pick ups plug in to it. I'm fine with this but at the first sign of trouble I'll whip it out and re-wire it. I suspect I won't have to do this. Strap buttons were the non-locking type. I changed them straight away for the locking type. Over all the hardware is excellent. Happily use this without backup. // 10
Impression: I went and choose this one myself and made sure I was happy with it and I am. There is nothing I'm dissapointed about. The sound is first rate, plays great, looks great, it's a quality instrument. Gibson like everyone else let a few bad apples out of the orchard and people buy them, mainly online or they don't pay attention when in the shop. Take a good look at it before handing over the best part of 2 grand. I've got an Epiphone Les Paul Custom that I bought second hand a few months back and it in no way compares to the Gibson. I have a Fender Squier Telecaster which is totally different and a Parker PM20 which is kinda like a Les Paul but without the frill and thick body.
Les Paul Standard 2008
Reviewed by:
Maldihr, on november 09, 2012 0 of 3 people found this review helpful
Price paid: $ 9000
Purchased from: Musicians Friend
Features: This is a Standard Gibson guitar, with the Standard features. Mahogany body and neck, flamed maple top, rosewood fretboard, two Gibson humbuckers, Gibson custom tuners, tune O matic bridge, 22 jumbo frets, and two tone and two volume knobs. This guitar was made in 2009 in the States. I got no accessories or anything, which I had to buy seperatly. // 3
Sound: I have played many Gibsons over the years, and at last I decided to try out the new Standard Les Paul. I've played it many times in my local music store, and I really liked it, but when I got my own, my feelings for Gibson and their guitars fell like a rock thrown out of a building. The sound was very week, and very muddy. Way too much middle and bass, hardly any treble. I took the guitar to the store and asked them if they could see if it were any errors on my guitar, but they didn't find anything. It was not the sound I was looking for at all. Very dissapointed. // 2
Action, Fit & Finish: Yet again the rummors about Gibson was wrong. The guitar was packed at the factory, and not opened by anyone but me. So I expected it to be well set up by the Gibson staff. But no. The action was way too high. You could hardly hear and notes. The pickups were so low I couldn't see them from the side (I did raise them before testing the sound).
When it comes to the finish it isn't much to say. It's just lovely. It's so awesome looking, yet so crappy to play. // 4
Reliability & Durability: I had this guitar about 6 months before I send it back to the store saying it was way to much wrong. They were kind enought to give me my money back. Thank you.
Over the time period spend with this guitar, I can't say I'm impressed. The strapbuttons didn't manage to hold the guitar, so they snapped off several times. I had to use a screwdriver and put them back on. The finish started to wore of after some weeks, still my other guitars (some with flamed maple tops) didn't suffer at all. The rosewood fretboard seemd to last, but That was about the only part on this guitar who was. The guitar didn't stay in tune, and the pickups were disconnecting very often, due to bad wiring from the factory.
I had never taken the chance of giging with this.
Which I think is very bad, since Gibson has a reputation of making good instruments with high quality. // 2
Impression: I'm not happy about this guitar! I play some blues and rock, but mostly metal, and with those pickups, the guitar coundn't even handle the riff in Smoke On The Water. I've been playing guitar about 5-6 years now, and I own several Jackson USA and Ibanez Prestige. I love to shred, and even though I know the Gibson's ain't famous for their slim necks, I still had hope. But even after a good, long set up, I could hardly play regular chords.
If this guitar was stolen, I would problably not care so much. I would pitty the poor guy who stole it. I bet he'd give it back after some days.
I'm not saying every Gibson guitar is this bad, I think Gibson is making some wonderful instruments, but this guitar was crap. I've played Epiphone's who were like heaven compared to this, both in sound and feel.
And to all of you thinking this was a Gibson copy made somewhere in the middle-east: It wasn't. It had only two screws on the thuss rod cover, and I even asked the Gibson service of the serial number on my guitar was valid, and it was. I'm sorry Gibson, you didn't deliver. // 3
Seems over-priced, and the 2008 thing is an excuse for Gibson to make tiny changes each year and charge more for the LP name. What are we, guitarists, or videogame fans? Because while if you want, spending some 40-50 a year on a new game's easily achievable, but 1600? Git tae smeg outta here.
Considering this guitar cost you $2,500 (USD), your review is a trifle alarming or biased. Clearly you love your guitar, but rating it 8 for Action, Fit & Finish when "Set up too low for gauge 10 strings. the strings grind on the frets, limiting bending, but nothing a little bridge heightening will not resolve. The tone and volume controls and put on wonky (not what you expect for £1600) and the volume pots are unresponsive. turning them down from 10 to 3 makes no difference what'soever." is a major problem for me. Those problems shouldn't occur on $300 guitars, let alone a Gibson!
It sounds like a decent enough guitar, but for my money, I'd want perfection.
It seems to me that with the '08 standard, Gibson has tried to find a new market in people who would buy, say, a PRS, or a similar, more 'boutique-y' instrument. With this in mind, the price seems slightly more understandable (It's still 1600 though, but maybe it'll come down as time goes on), but the comments in the 'Action, Fit and Finish' section are more than a worry.
Gibson's are way overpriced. Great guitars, but it's just wood with strings. It's not worth $3000+.
Yes but usually when someone buys a Gibson doesnt really buy it for the guitar but for the name of "Gibson". Thats why almost all guitars are so expensive.
Coz_Metal is right. Ppl are buing guitars mostly for name. Those ppl don't realy know why did they buy the guitar. If i will buy guitar i won't buy because of name. I wanna play just one's...
Gibson's are way overpriced. Great guitars, but it's just wood with strings. It's not worth $3000+.
Yes but usually when someone buys a Gibson doesnt really buy it for the guitar but for the name of "Gibson". Thats why almost all guitars are so expensive.
+1. its true that the name is everithing for this brand but any decent person will see that even gibsons are great they are way over priced. but hey i guess that in some cases people just want to have a special boutique instrument, you just for showing off; and one month without paying bills is not that bad (sarcasm for those who don't get)
Yes but usually when someone buys a Gibson doesnt really buy it for the guitar but for the name of "Gibson". Thats why almost all guitars are so expensive.
100% true. some kids just buy it for the name and have no idea what is it actually. they are too much overpriced.
Agreed all I'm shocked how much these things cost. To be honest, I'd be afraid to have one- I dropped my Epiphone down the stairs one day and while it was alarming, nothing broke, and I didn't flip out. Picture doing that with one that's $ 2500??? I would have stroked out on the spot.
Aaaaahh what a nice guitar )
I agree with you guys saying about just paying for the name.
I have a Vintage Les Paul Goldtop which is better than a lot of Epiphones, don't be fooled people!
... The tone and volume controls and put on wonky (not what you expect for £1600) and the volume pots are unresponsive. turning them down from 10 to 3 makes no difference what'soever. ...
Aren't they just loose, or have you tried it loud on a loud amp, and still no difference? isn'T because of the logarithmic nature of the pots?
BTW, I agree with all you up there, that Gibsons are overpriced. Well overpriced.
i dont know why all the gibson guitars are pricey.
i think esp or ibanez are better than gibson.jackson guitars are twice better than gibson.in my opinion,gibson guitars are only for old folks.
dont blame me,i just expressed what i'm thinking.
thank you.
Yea, the Gibson's are WAY OVERPRICED! I live in Nashville, TN, down where the main center is and I can actually go to the store and play the guitars, and in my opinion, Epiphone's are just as good. The only thing you're buying when you get a Gibson is the name. Still good guitars, but way too overpriced.
And next time can we have a conversion for the price, btw? I'm not british, so I don't know how much that is in American dollars.
And next time can we have a conversion for the price, btw? I'm not british, so I don't know how much that is in American dollars.
Dude. The world doesn't revolve around the U.S. Shocking, I know. How many other currencies is someone supposed to provide? Would it really hurt you to look it up yourself?
...and if you read the comments, you would see that I provided an approximate conversion to USD in an earlier comment. And I'm in Canada, so just consider me nice.
Never really did see the appeal with Les Pauls anyway...Epi or Gibson. They are just to generic a shape for me. Every second guitarist has one!
Im hopefully getting an ESP LTD Ex-400 soon which is absolutely mental looking and i love it!
Nah mate, What a rip off, unresponsive controls and an overall user rating on 7.6, Les Paul players must be right dumbarses to use these. If you want a Les Paul, build one yourself, your rules and cheap
Gibsons are almost entirely handmade, by union guys. There's a CNC machine that cuts the blocked-out shapde of the neck and body, and then laser etches where the neck and headstock inlays will go. Some are plek'ed out. The rest is all done by hand.
Your auto mechanic is probably a union guy too, probably billing at $60-$90 per hour, depending on your region. Considering their time, Gibson workers are effectively billing at about $30-$40 per hour.
Not saying it's a good investment for everybody ... just saying that the cost of production isn't going to be anywhere near that of an Ibanez or ESP, where the factory workers are getting paid a dollar a day. Look at the cost of American Fenders v. Mexicans.
Personally, it's worth my money just for the satisfaction of buying local. It's a shame I can't find any shoes or jeans made in the US anymore though ...
All the guys say that you buy the gibson just for the logo quite shurley don't own a gibson. Those guitars are best quality wood wise and construction wise. And I am not talking about those studios but standards are top notch guitar. Any good player no matter what he plays will have a smile when he tries a Gibson because those guitars are so good. they sound so clear. And its like earth and the sky from epiphones.
so plese try before you talk
And next time can we have a conversion for the price, btw? I'm not british, so I don't know how much that is in American dollars.
Dude. The world doesn't revolve around the U.S. Shocking, I know. How many other currencies is someone supposed to provide? Would it really hurt you to look it up yourself?
...and if you read the comments, you would see that I provided an approximate conversion to USD in an earlier comment. And I'm in Canada, so just consider me nice.
haha u just got owned in the most friendly canadian way. oh canada eh!
anyways, i think its all about luck with gibsons. I purchased an sg special thats got kick ass up the ying yang, and my buddie got a les paul atudio which was more than double the price, and its absolute garbage. Its just the name man...
All the guys say that you buy the gibson just for the logo quite shurley don't own a gibson. Those guitars are best quality wood wise and construction wise. And I am not talking about those studios but standards are top notch guitar. Any good player no matter what he plays will have a smile when he tries a Gibson because those guitars are so good. they sound so clear. And its like earth and the sky from epiphones.
so plese try before you talk
well people know that they are good but still overpriced i mean com on over 2,ooo buks thats crazy for less than a thousand you can get a amazing earth and sky moving guitar from a brand name company. also for that amount the gutar should be perfect and in the review there are some issues which is just unnacceptable at that price range
All the guys say that you buy the gibson just for the logo quite shurley don't own a gibson. Those guitars are best quality wood wise and construction wise. And I am not talking about those studios but standards are top notch guitar. Any good player no matter what he plays will have a smile when he tries a Gibson because those guitars are so good. they sound so clear. And its like earth and the sky from epiphones.
so plese try before you talk
well people know that they are good but still overpriced i mean com on over 2,ooo buks thats crazy for less than a thousand you can get a amazing earth and sky moving guitar from a brand name company. also for that amount the gutar should be perfect and in the review there are some issues which is just unnacceptable at that price range
Les Pauls are really hard to make because real flame maple to is realy gentle wood and rare to find so it costs a lot. Guitars without a top like sg cost half a price.
About the review "Set up too low for gauge 10 strings. the strings grind on the frets, limiting bending, but nothing a little bridge heightening will not resolve." common this guys don't know what he talks about its quite common if you strum like gorilla on the 6th string for the string to be buzzing on any guitar.
no matter how nice an epiphone may be...the wood is inferior to the wood on a gibson and that makes the guitar. period. changing the pups wont do anything to change the way the guitar resonates. good wood is good wood and epis use cheap wood. i'll admit that gibsons are pricey, but a nice les paul is all the guitar you will ever need and it will hold its value. if you buy a good les paul used, it will probably never drop its value.
Wait, so you gave this guitar a terrible review in all your comments but good scores? I'm not trying to call you out or be a dick or anything, but seriously? I've always wanted a Gibson Les Paul Standard, but I've come to the conclusion that I'm buying a used late 90s model when I get around to it. The newer ones all sound lack crap despite the fact that Gibson jacks the price up a few hundred dollars every year.
Good wood and a neck-through don't have to be expensive. You can get an Ibanez XPT-700, solid mahogany with a maple/walnut thru-neck for $700. No flamed top and it's not made in America (or even Korea), but it's a lot more playable than any Epi, Gibson, Squier, MIM Strat, MIA Strat, Dean or BC Rich I've ever played. And you don't have to deal with the strings popping out of the nut like is common with Gibsons. If you don't like the Edge III Trem, you can block it or swap it out and still have well over $1300 left over. Don't get me wrong--I love my MIA Strat, but anything in drop-D, I'm playing on the Indonesian Ibanez.
you mentioned about the volume pots; I notice that is the case on all guitars...can anyone message me and explain the electronics behind the volume knobs.
On my SG, PRS, and Telecaster the only difference between 10 and 1 is the gain seems a lot lower and it sounds really crunchy, yet still just as loud (except when it's at 0)...why then is it called volume?
Good wood and a neck-through don't have to be expensive. You can get an Ibanez XPT-700, solid mahogany with a maple/walnut thru-neck for $700. No flamed top and it's not made in America (or even Korea), but it's a lot more playable than any Epi, Gibson, Squier, MIM Strat, MIA Strat, Dean or BC Rich I've ever played. And you don't have to deal with the strings popping out of the nut like is common with Gibsons. If you don't like the Edge III Trem, you can block it or swap it out and still have well over $1300 left over. Don't get me wrong--I love my MIA Strat, but anything in drop-D, I'm playing on the Indonesian Ibanez.
How could you be taken seriously playing THAT thing!
Everything you said was a bad point yet you still give it an 8?
From what you've put i'd give that a 6 at best.
i give it a higher score because potential was there. two twists of the bridge n hey, the grinding was gone. i wasn t going to give it a low score because i imagined not all the gibson 08s are the same when they turn up (mine was a one off i hope). after the set up it played like a dream. good point tho, still hope the review helped
... The tone and volume controls and put on wonky (not what you expect for £1600) and the volume pots are unresponsive. turning them down from 10 to 3 makes no difference what'soever. ...
Aren't they just loose, or have you tried it loud on a loud amp, and still no difference? isn'T because of the logarithmic nature of the pots?
BTW, I agree with all you up there, that Gibsons are overpriced. Well overpriced.
Thanks for the review tho.
i assumed the pot values were incorrect, thats why they r unresponsive. makes no difference on louder amp.
expensive? for a bit of wood n strings i agree, but its cheaper than my jackson dk1 and i think the gibson is better.
Les Pauls are really hard to make because real flame maple to is realy gentle wood and rare to find so it costs a lot. Guitars without a top like sg cost half a price.
About the review "Set up too low for gauge 10 strings. the strings grind on the frets, limiting bending, but nothing a little bridge heightening will not resolve." common this guys don't know what he talks about its quite common if you strum like gorilla on the 6th string for the string to be buzzing on any guitar.
Wait, so you gave this guitar a terrible review in all your comments but good scores? I'm not trying to call you out or be a dick or anything, but seriously? I've always wanted a Gibson Les Paul Standard, but I've come to the conclusion that I'm buying a used late 90s model when I get around to it. The newer ones all sound lack crap despite the fact that Gibson jacks the price up a few hundred dollars every year.
terrible? god like sustain, warm tones, versatile, comfortable neck? these are positive comments, apart from the dodgy tone controls the only negative i mentioned was low action (out of preference more than anything) but that is adjustable cos all guitarists are different. think about it, dodgy controls but i still bought it proves just how impressive this thing is.
as soon as you play the thing you ll forget all about the wonky pots trust me
Les Pauls are really hard to make because real flame maple to is realy gentle wood and rare to find so it costs a lot. Guitars without a top like sg cost half a price.
About the review "Set up too low for gauge 10 strings. the strings grind on the frets, limiting bending, but nothing a little bridge heightening will not resolve." common this guys don't know what he talks about its quite common if you strum like gorilla on the 6th string for the string to be buzzing on any guitar.
i know dude, les pauls are sculpted to be played through tube amps, you just dont get the effect otherwise. I play an Ibanez S620EXQM with a beautiful flamed maple top and it only cost me 800$ so dont say its the maple. and also, im in canadian dollars eh? My friend has an SG and a les paul and they're nice guitars, i wouldnt mind owning 1, but i like my Ibanez, oh and i play through a blue voodoo, and a framus 4x12.
i dont know why all the gibson guitars are pricey.
i think esp or ibanez are better than gibson.jackson guitars are twice better than gibson.in my opinion,gibson guitars are only for old folks.
dont blame me,i just expressed what i'm thinking.
thank you.
lol. Gibsons are grandpa's geetars.
i love the idea of owning a gibson, but...do i really need to save 3000 bucks? if wanted to drop all that cash id save an extra grand or two and get a custom ESP.
i dont think its worth the price yeah its a gibson but if the build quality is not top notch then dont spend that much you can get a good guitar and some pedals or a small amp for that much
I have the 2002 LP standard (£1200 new in 2002), after looking at you review i'm not so keen on upgrading, although my 2002LP has a million scratches from my jacket zipper and a dint the size of my thumbnail, but i am the 3rd user, my step dad was the original owner who bought it new. However, does this edition of the LP say Gibson on the head, or Gibso( inlay for N is upside down on mine ) and do the volume and tone switches have air bubbles in them?, along with wired "O" shaped bits of wood stuck to the scews holding the bridge on mine?
But LPs do sound nice, both clean and Odd on my Marshall JCM cant remember full model but is JCM xxxx DSL 201 Valve Amp
Gibsons are almost entirely handmade, by union guys. There's a CNC machine that cuts the blocked-out shapde of the neck and body, and then laser etches where the neck and headstock inlays will go. Some are plek'ed out. The rest is all done by hand.
Your auto mechanic is probably a union guy too, probably billing at $60-$90 per hour, depending on your region. Considering their time, Gibson workers are effectively billing at about $30-$40 per hour.
Not saying it's a good investment for everybody ... just saying that the cost of production isn't going to be anywhere near that of an Ibanez or ESP, where the factory workers are getting paid a dollar a day. Look at the cost of American Fenders v. Mexicans.
Personally, it's worth my money just for the satisfaction of buying local. It's a shame I can't find any shoes or jeans made in the US anymore though ...
This is truth. The instruments are quality too. There's also a high demand, even if just for the name, however i would consider an instrument purchase more of an investment. You pay a lot for it, but they hold value, and have the potential to increase in value. People can say they're overrated or whatever, but it really is an icon, and even if you yourself wouldn't dish out that kind of money for a guitar, other people will.
Agreed all I'm shocked how much these things cost. To be honest, I'd be afraid to have one- I dropped my Epiphone down the stairs one day and while it was alarming, nothing broke, and I didn't flip out. Picture doing that with one that's $ 2500??? I would have stroked out on the spot.
I dropped my epiphone Les Paul on the floor and it cracked, not badly, just a little down near the input. :'(
I nearly cried. I know that's a little over the top, but it's the first electric I bought with my own money. So i'm a little bit protective
And I wouldn't buy this guitar. I don't think that the first review was very helpful, they both seemed to list problems and Beanhead said he was saying about their potential, but if I buy a guitar I want it to be set up already, especailly seeing as i'm in Australian and a 2008LP would probably cost me more than 3000$, possibly even $3500
Yea, the Gibson's are WAY OVERPRICED! I live in Nashville, TN, down where the main center is and I can actually go to the store and play the guitars,
and in my opinion, Epiphone's are just as good. The
only thing you're buying when you get a Gibson is the name. Still good guitars, but way too overpriced.
And next time can we have a conversion for the price, btw? I'm not british, so I don't know how much that is in American dollars.
Epiphones are not as good, sound or quality.
Buying a Gibson Les Paul is comparible to buying a Harley.
When you say I got a Harley, people are like hell yea
if you say I got a Honda, doesnt sound the same, same with the Gibson thing
lol epiphones suck my friend breought his to school yesterday and it was the white custom and it sounded like crap...we all told him to get better pick ups...but some gibsons are overpriced...some not..id rather have a dean razorback...
you can tell in the first review they gave extra points for the name Gibson Les Paul, his description of the volume and tone control was worse than my Squier, but he gave it 7.5?
Yea, the Gibson's are WAY OVERPRICED! I live in Nashville, TN, down where the main center is and I can actually go to the store and play the guitars,
and in my opinion, Epiphone's are just as good. The
only thing you're buying when you get a Gibson is the name. Still good guitars, but way too overpriced.
And next time can we have a conversion for the price, btw? I'm not british, so I don't know how much that is in American dollars.
Epiphones are not as good, sound or quality.
Buying a Gibson Les Paul is comparible to buying a Harley.
When you say I got a Harley, people are like hell yea
if you say I got a Honda, doesnt sound the same, same with the Gibson thing
exactly why you're just buying the Gibson name. Epiphone is still like $900 australian, thats more than the most basic real Stratocaster standard Stratocaster
"Buying a Gibson Les Paul is comparible to buying a Harley."
What, you mean a piece of overpriced agricultural junk that`s bought by 50 year old stockbrokers pretending to be hippies and trying to relive their youth?
Gibsons are "the" guitars to be owned. they are a little over priced I agree but the quality is exceptional to any other out there. There's a reason many ppl pick gibson over the rest. I won a 2002 custom les paul and just bought an 08 R9, my R9 VOS is the best guitar, I spent 4k on it and I'm not about to get rid of it. It's everything I wanted in a guitar and more. Bar none
stop complaining about gibson being overpriced, if you don't have money, live with it. just buy cheap ass guitars according to your own income, don't be jealous to those people who can buy gibson guitars
peace. gibson is awsome, the best guitar ever.
I have a 2008 Standard Plus and a Studio from 2006. Both are amazing guitars. Studios are great but you can't really substitute a Studio for a 2008 Standard. Gibson made a lot of upgrades this time arround. New neck, plecked, strap locks, locking tuners, etc. I love the burstbucker pro pickups. Price is a bit high but I don't mind paying a bit more for something made in my own country. I'm happy with my purchase.
This review is quite biest. gibson's r made by hand so it's unlikely that any one will be the same.
however it is alarming that the two of u got odd one's if I was paying that kind of money for a guitar I would also expect perfection
Used several Les Pauls in my life, loved the sound feel, look and finally bought a real one. At first I was a little worried about the "holes in a les paul" issue as well but I don't know you'd have to be some sort of a sound scientist to tell the difference between the sounds it generates. I can't tell and prefer to use the 2008 due to weight. One thing that sucks is that exposed electronic board. Looks geeky and does not match the legend - that's for sure. Nevertheless - finally a Les Paul that's up there in quality, sound and doesn't rip your shoulder off.
Dude even though people take it out on gibsons you realy cant compare gibbies with epis there in different leagues. Yes gibson are about £400 overprice for what they are but his guitar is better than any epi anyday. Some pople just dont get it questions like no ebony fretboard, standard hae nver had an ebony fretboard. That would be Ford changing the name of a Mustang to anhilator yeh it might be cool but its just messing with the car to much a bit like changing key features of standard is too much. Some people buy gibsons not for the name but for the quality andtone of the guitar!!!
Pffff... why are so many people nagging about the price? I'm Dutch, but even I find it quite reasonably priced, I've payed 1900 euros, and, compared to some other guitars/brands, that is quite cheap.. or is it just because the dollar value is so low? I love the guitar anyway, it's a true beauty and she sounds like a goddess!
What about the PLEK feature? Not something that great recorded music from the past had.. Still a very nice feature on the Standard, as far as intonation goes.
i purchased a 2008 les paul about a month ago,2900.00 canadian.worth every penny.i also have a gibson sg,and an epiphone sg,and all i can say is that the les paul absolutely crushes them in every category,mind you the gibson sg is also very sweet.ive got a lot of guitar playing friends,and they are all extremely impressed with it.anybody that is a doubter,should just take the time to give one a try,and im sure they will all be pleasantely surprised.it is an amazing instument,and can do it all.
Those who complain Gibson is overpriced are because you never used them. To me, I think Fender is the real overpriced thing. Only MIM is enough, and you just need change a little bit.
For half of the money you can buy an awesome Ibanez guitar. Don't spend your money at Gibson unless you play blues.
That's one of the most stupid advices I've read lately. No Ibanez can compare to a Gibson Les Paul, unless you pay for the Japanese axe the same price as for the American all-time classic. And, at the same price, 99% of the guitar players would choose a Les Paul. Pros know why. Les Paul is a great guitar for almost everything, and especially for Rock: all sorts of Rock, including Metal.
Every tune i hear and say "i love the sound of that guitar" usually has a Les Paul on it. I'd love one, but have tried a lot, and most have had bad fit and finish, with wonky pots, of going out of tune after a few big bends. (having said that I've tried a lot of AWFUL ESPs for £1000). I ended up getting a US Dean Hardtail (mahogany & quilt maple top)for £1750 (multiply by 1.5 if you're across the pond), that is beautiful, and sounds great, and has perfect finishing, a definite keeper, but i'd still love a GOOD Les Paul because i want THAT sound. I had a second hand PRS custom 24 10 top that was even more beautiful, but sounded awful. So even in big bucks territory you do have to source your guitar carefully, in person IMO.
There are some really stupid inmature remarks made here. Mostly by people who will never own an Epiphone Les Paul let alone a nice Les Paul Studio or Traditional or Standard. First of all, some guy wrote that Gibson is union! Really? Which union bozo? I post as an older gent of 57. I have been playing since I was 17. I own many nice electrics and, two nice Gibson Les Pauls. I just got the second Les Paul being a 2010 made LP Standard model. It is part of the 2008 series. It is a beautiful Premium Heritage Cherry Sunburst flamed top finish. The burstbucker Pros sound sweet as peach pie! The asymetrical neck is not bad to play! I have a slim taper on my other Les Paul which I just love! The locking tuners I don't have an opinion on yet. I have other locking tuners on another guitar and, they work great, hold a tuning well and, make string changing quicker. This guitar is a work of art and, I got a great deal on it. I agree with not just Gibson being over priced, right now everthing else is. This was the second of these guitars I demoed before I decided to buy this one. The first one I demoed on a Marshall JMP1H through a Marshall cab with 4x12 or 4x10 speakers. The one I purchased I demoed through a DSL15. As soon as I hit the red channel on it, I knew she was a keeper! The action on mine actually came quite low. Like I wrote earlier was made in 2010. I believe they stopped making this model in 2011. I feel it is a great 50th aniversary edition of the legendary Les Paul Standard. I have many amps and guitars. This is one of my finest. I'm glad I'm able to purchase it, thank you Lord! I give it a rating of about a 9 to a 9.5. Only because I like slim taper necks better. The locking neutrik jack is something that I'm getting use to as well. I did not have the problems with the volume and, balance that others have written about on here. I respect their concerns on the matter. It could be on the early ones the controls were goofy. Sometimes a bad batch of pots,etc can get through.