system123
: what's the difference between a fender strat and a squier???POSTED: 05/13/2006 - 08:21 am / quote |
ronoh55
: nothing as far as i know...fender owns squier. Squier are just cheaper prices, and thus thought to be cheaply made, but that for the most part isnt so...at least if u get one made in the US. Ones made in Mexico or Korea idk....POSTED: 06/22/2006 - 07:04 pm / quote |
the_guy
: system123 wrote:
what's the difference between a fender strat and a squier??? |
fenders are:
better sounding, better made, made from better wood, have better pickups, made by better people, more pricey.POSTED: 10/23/2006 - 06:51 am / quote |
Baby Hammett
: think of it like this
squier=Epiphone
Fender=Gibson
Squier is just a less quality Fender... just like an epiphone is a less quality Gibson..
POSTED: 11/09/2006 - 02:52 pm / quote |
fenderdeluxe
: im 12 and i play mainly rock and metal and this guitars awesome it also looks beautiful it looks 10 times its pricePOSTED: 11/17/2006 - 09:00 pm / quote |
Erlend Johan
: I think it is a good guitar 
I got one with a black finish POSTED: 02/08/2007 - 05:16 pm / quote |
ENADSIDOG
: this is an amzing guitar i play heavy funk i got rid of my american fender and just use this baby this is a n amzing guitar you wont find better, i play it through a huge stack and its sound is way better then a fender what ever you people say. some guitars are brillinat weather there 200 or 4500 dollars
POSTED: 02/11/2007 - 08:01 am / quote |
CobenBlack
: the_guy wrote:
system123 wrote:
what's the difference between a fender strat and a squier???
fenders are:
better sounding, better made, made from better wood, have better pickups, made by better people, more pricey. |
There not made by better peope, there not always made from better wood, the low down fenders use the same pickups as squiers, and as such they dont sound better.
they are more pricey though. basically the difference is the price and a whole lot of snobbery. unless you talking about paying 600(gb pounds) or more for the fender, at which point, yeah, i'll agree with the above. but the lowere fenders? theres no difference that i can tell. POSTED: 02/13/2007 - 09:45 am / quote |
nick dixon
: CobenBlack wrote:
the_guy wrote:
system123 wrote:
what's the difference between a fender strat and a squier???
fenders are:
better sounding, better made, made from better wood, have better pickups, made by better people, more pricey.
There not made by better peope, there not always made from better wood, the low down fenders use the same pickups as squiers, and as such they dont sound better.
they are more pricey though. basically the difference is the price and a whole lot of snobbery. unless you talking about paying 600(gb pounds) or more for the fender, at which point, yeah, i'll agree with the above. but the lowere fenders? theres no difference that i can tell. |
This guy knows what he's talking about. I have to say apart from very minor cosmetic details and such, the Squiers are practically the same, and if not play even better then some of the fenders. 2 of the nicest guitars I have ever played was one my friends squire Telecaster standard, and my own Squier Stratocaster Standard.
My other friend has an american startocaster deluxe in olympic white with classic pickups and all the goo-gaws, its quite nice, but my squier plays and SOUNDS better. Yes thats right!, you heard me.
Apart from the fact people are obsessed with the "strat", you know, THE strat, there isnt much differnce between squier and fender except for the prices. I payed £50 for my gorgeous strat in 2 colour sunburst and 70's headstock... im laughing because my freind payed just short of 700 for his fender 
I will say that there are good guitars, and bad guitars. Try before you buy. YES, alot of fenders are better then squiers, and sometimes vis versa. it all depends, and NO 2 guitars are ever the same.
I have a 1994 japanese stratocaster 1962 re-issue... My squier plays better then that too.
do you homework and dont jump on the elitist bandwagon of being a fender snob / wanker
POSTED: 04/29/2007 - 01:48 pm / quote |
picklepopcikle
: im thinking of buying a squier strat but i really want it to last. should i buy the fender strat instead or will the squier last me till the day i die(which si quite a long time away)? im also thinking on buyon an amp...any recommendations?POSTED: 09/19/2007 - 12:40 pm / quote |
picklepopcikle
: im thinking of buying a squier strat but i really want it to last. should i buy the fender strat instead or will the squier last me till the day i die(which is quite a long time away? im also thinking on buyin an amp...any recommendations?POSTED: 09/19/2007 - 12:40 pm / quote |
Anjohl
: Does anyone know what type of Trem bar this guitar uses? I bought one used, loving it so far, but a strat-style trem I bought won't fit it at all, it's too small. POSTED: 01/12/2008 - 09:24 pm / quote |
super_strat_man
: [quote]nick dixon wrote:
CobenBlack wrote:
the_guy wrote:
system123 wrote:
what's the difference between a fender strat and a squier???
fenders are:
better sounding, better made, made from better wood, have better pickups, made by better people, more pricey.
There not made by better peope, there not always made from better wood, the low down fenders use the same pickups as squiers, and as such they dont sound better.
they are more pricey though. basically the difference is the price and a whole lot of snobbery. unless you talking about paying 600(gb pounds) or more for the fender, at which point, yeah, i'll agree with the above. but the lowere fenders? theres no difference that i can tell.
This guy knows what he's talking about. I have to say apart from very minor cosmetic details and such, the Squiers are practically the same, and if not play even better then some of the fenders. 2 of the nicest guitars I have ever played was one my friends squire Telecaster standard, and my own Squier Stratocaster Standard.
My other friend has an american startocaster deluxe in olympic white with classic pickups and all the goo-gaws, its quite nice, but my squier plays and SOUNDS better. Yes thats right!, you heard me.
Apart from the fact people are obsessed with the "strat", you know, THE strat, there isnt much differnce between squier and fender except for the prices. I payed £50 for my gorgeous strat in 2 colour sunburst and 70's headstock... im laughing because my freind payed just short of 700 for his fender
I will say that there are good guitars, and bad guitars. Try before you buy. YES, alot of fenders are better then squiers, and sometimes vis versa. it all depends, and NO 2 guitars are ever the same.
I have a 1994 japanese stratocaPOSTED: 02/02/2008 - 02:55 pm / quote |
super_strat_man
: [quote]nick dixon wrote:
CobenBlack wrote:
the_guy wrote:
system123 wrote:
what's the difference between a fender strat and a squier???
fenders are:
better sounding, better made, made from better wood, have better pickups, made by better people, more pricey.
There not made by better peope, there not always made from better wood, the low down fenders use the same pickups as squiers, and as such they dont sound better.
they are more pricey though. basically the difference is the price and a whole lot of snobbery. unless you talking about paying 600(gb pounds) or more for the fender, at which point, yeah, i'll agree with the above. but the lowere fenders? theres no difference that i can tell.
This guy knows what he's talking about. I have to say apart from very minor cosmetic details and such, the Squiers are practically the same, and if not play even better then some of the fenders. 2 of the nicest guitars I have ever played was one my friends squire Telecaster standard, and my own Squier Stratocaster Standard.
My other friend has an american startocaster deluxe in olympic white with classic pickups and all the goo-gaws, its quite nice, but my squier plays and SOUNDS better. Yes thats right!, you heard me.
Apart from the fact people are obsessed with the "strat", you know, THE strat, there isnt much differnce between squier and fender except for the prices. I payed £50 for my gorgeous strat in 2 colour sunburst and 70's headstock... im laughing because my freind payed just short of 700 for his fender
I will say that there are good guitars, and bad guitars. Try before you buy. YES, alot of fenders are better then squiers, and sometimes vis versa. it all depends, and NO 2 guitars are ever the same.
I have a 1994 japanese stratocaster 1962 re-issue... My squier plays better then that too.
do you homework and dont jump on the elitist bandwagon of being a fender snob / wanker | [/quote]You guys are just so ignorant of the shitiness of your squiers and are completely convinced that they sound the same or better than real Fender Strats. None of the worlds greatest guitarists play squiers and they shouldnt, because their music would sound like shit. When i picked up my first electric guitar, a Epiphone Les Paul 100, i thought it sounded great, until i realized i just didn't have the $$ to pay for the better sounding gibsons and Fender Strats. Plus, Fender knows that their squires suck and thts why the put Squier Strat in big font and then(by fender)in tiny writing. POSTED: 02/02/2008 - 02:57 pm / quote |
Anjohl
: I bought an FMT Squier, and I have to say the above poster is dead wrong. Here is the list of guitars I have owned:
Fender Jag-Stang
Epiphone Les Paul
Sammick Strat-copy
Squier FMT
The Squier is definitely the best of the three. It's got FANTASTIC intonation for clean play, and its distortion tone through my beloved marshall is great. It's instant Iron Maiden/Pink Floyd, it's that good.
I compared this guitar to a pair of G&L guitars costing 1200 each, and mine held it's own. Is it as good? Not really. But I will say that I liked the clean tone on my Squier better than both G&L's, and I have been palying guitar for almost 15 years.
I like the fact that I can get a decent Stratocaster tone, with the authentic specs, but I don't have to worry about every little spec of dust and every ding on the guitar, because it DIDNT cost me ~$1000.
Are Fenders better? In almsot every way. Except price. And the rule of "As good as yoru weakest link" applies positively here. If you are a beginner-intermediate, a decent higher-end Squier is a godsent, reliable, sounds great, easily replacable. To the average musician, there is no real perceptible difference between a Squier and a Fender, similarly to how HD-DVD looks only a little better than standard DVD.
And just like in the above statement, the average consumer is satisfied with the lower-end version, because the extra cost is disproprtionate to the extra quality. If you want a rock/pop guitar with great versatility, the Squier FMT/QMT is a great but, probably the best Squier makes (That and the Hot Rails Strat).POSTED: 02/29/2008 - 06:15 pm / quote |
bluekanoodle
: OK, I have this Squier, and I just went out and bought a brand new fender American Deluxe today. I also have a new Squier affinity that I bought two days ago to use as a beater (it’s going back to the store now though), so I hope that I am qualified to make some comparisons between them.
My Squier Deluxe FMT has been upgraded to SCN Pickups, in addition I have replaced all the electronics to match the American Specs. That means that taking electronics out of the picture we're left with the guitar and hardware itself to compare.
The comparisons were all done with the same settings and the same amp, a fender blues junior. I also played them through a Roland Micro cube and a Digitech RP250 through a Monitor.
Right off the bat let me tell you side by side now, the Squier affinity sucks compared to both of these. To those of you who have one and like good for you, but there's no comparison. It sounds weak, thin and very twangy (and not in a pleasant Telecaster sort of way. This guitar was professionally setup when I bought it, but other then that it’s completely stock.
So lets compare the Deluxe Squier and the Deluxe strat. As far as fit and finish, no doubt the fender is much better built. It feels solid, all the joints are very well put together and the fretwork is amazing. The Squier does win points for its beautiful Figured wood top, and as far as that goes I think it s the winner.
But really matters are the sound. To really here the difference between these to guitars, you have to play them trough a tube amp, no your modeler does not count. Trust me when I say until tonight I could not here the difference between a modeler and my tube amp, but holy cow to does the American Strat make a tube amp sing. Don’t get me wrong, the Squier still sounds great, but there are definite differences.
I’ve only played for about 10 months, so I don’t know the technical name for what I am hearing, but the American strat has a much creamier, more diverse sound. It’s almost like to describe it you have to listen to the sounds between the sounds. It’s like a choir of angels singing to your notes. I don’t know how to say it. I would say the squire with a pickup upgrade, can get about 60% of the sound, but its that 25% that is where the magic happens. For a blues or classic rock or clean sound, the American smokes the little Squier, Under heavy distortion the difference while still there, is definitely less noticeable
But keep in mind to get that close, I have to spend almost 550 dollars. Both of these Guitars blow my old Mexican strat out of the water by the way
Conclusion, these are both great guitars, and If your trying to keep your equipment costs down, the squire is an awesome guitar, but its no American Deluxe. I think both these guitars are in the same place in their respective product lines. The American definitely has more little touches that really make this a work of art
Just be prepared to spend a little money down the road to replace the stock pickups. Will I have the Squier in 10 years? Probably not, it’s a road worthy guitar, one that I don’t mind taking in the car with me. The American is destined to be a family heirloom that I one day pass down to my grandchildren.
Total Cost for the American Deluxe $1025
Squier FMT $550 (250 for guitar 200 for pickups, 50 for a real pearloid pickguard, not the flimsy one that came with it, and 50 for the upgraded electronics)
So for approximately half the cost of the American you get 60% of the tone. Granted the American has a much nicer neck, S-1 switching, locking tuners, hand rolled fingerboard, etc so honesty I’d say you get half the guitar that American s for Half the price. To those who claim a sock Squier is anymore then half the guitar at 1/10 the price, you obviously have not spent any serious time with the two. It’s the small details that make a big difference when they are combined.
Give me a few more days to play and I’d be happy to provide sound samples between the 2
POSTED: 03/01/2008 - 01:26 am / quote |
vienteSiete
: I've been searching for days for a good comparison and 'just wanna say that the above post is really helpful...\m/POSTED: 04/11/2008 - 05:05 am / quote |
G-loony
: uhuh so i guess that if i want to play, uhm let's say...
Clean Like Nirvana/The Vines/The Kooks (that kind of tacky clean) but also use my BOSS DS2 pedal for more of a Weezer/Bloodhound gang/SOAD kind of distortian this guitar would be kind of perfect ???
I'm in a crisis for a new guitar but i haven't got 500 for a decent fender.
So i am asking you guys...
I Can Has Squier ?POSTED: 11/02/2008 - 06:25 pm / quote |
Anjohl
: The only thing you will lose G-Loony is the thickness of a humbucker. That will make the SOAD sound a LITTLE thin. BUT, if you only a relativley NEW player, I wouldn't worry about it, get a strat and don't look back.
If you plan on playing a lot of heavily distorted rock/metal, you might want to look for the vintage modified squier with the humbucker in the bridge position, or considar if you are willing to spend an extra $75 to have a seymour duncan hot rail equipped into your squier.POSTED: 12/06/2008 - 09:20 pm / quote |
FRAGaLOT
: When it comes to how good the Squire vs. Strat, and the assumption they both use the same pickups, why hasn't there been any talk about the strings?
I bet they both come with the same stock strings from Fender, and sound the same. But when you wear them out and replace them, do they sound better or worse? Are you comparing a Squire with old strings vs a Strat with new ones?
And are Fender made strings better than others?POSTED: 12/20/2008 - 07:37 pm / quote |
FRAGaLOT
: After searching around the difference is that the Squire is a mass-produced guitar made in Eastern Asia by cheaper labor, thus it's sold cheap.
Where as the Stratocaster is made in North America, built by people who earn well above minim-wage. The guitars are inspected and go though more scrutiny and QA than an Squire. It's also assumed a Square won't last as long as a Strat.POSTED: 12/20/2008 - 07:53 pm / quote |
FRAGaLOT
: Gotta Love Wikipedia
here's the history of Fender
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fender
And here's the story behind the Squire brand
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squier
POSTED: 12/21/2008 - 06:34 pm / quote |
ippystratman
: i cant understand why people are bothering to say that squier strats arent as good as fender strats. Of course they arent, but look at it this way; proper fender strats cost a bitchload, my squier cost $400 and thats with an extra $100 added on coz im a left hander. Squier strats are good quality guitars especially for the price. It really irritates me when people say squiers are crap because they are great for the pricerange.POSTED: 05/18/2009 - 08:49 pm / quote |
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