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6505 Review

manufacturer: peavey date: 02/02/2012 category: guitar amplifiers
6505
The 6505+ features two foot-switchable channels (vs the single channel of the regular 6505), the first of which can be switched between clean and crunch (and also has a bright switch) and the second of which is a high gain channel. Each channel has it's own 3-band EQ, resonance, and presence controls, along with a pre and post knob.
 Features: 8
 Sound: 9
 Reliability: 7
 Impression: 9
 Overall rating:
 7.3 
 Reviewer rating:
 8.3 
 Users rating:
 6.3 
 Votes:
 15 
 review (1)   pictures (1)  14 comments vote for this amp:
overall: 8.3
6505 Featured review by: UG Team, on february 02, 2012
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Price paid: $ 1199

Purchased from: Gorby's Music

Features: - 120 Watts
- Two channels: Rhythm/Lead
- Two 3-band EQs (Rhythm and Lead separate)
- Pre gain and Post gain on both channels
- Independent Resonance and Presence controls for each channel
- Rhythm Channel: Bright and Crunch switches
- Lead: no special buttons
- Four 6L6 power tubes
- Six 12AX7 Preamp tubes
- Preamp output
- Effects loop
- Bias test point
- Footswitch included (2011 footswitch is all metal, unlike the plastic P.O.S you got before)
- Made in U.S.A // 8

Sound: This is definitely one of the better amp heads for metal that you’ll ever set your sights on. You’ll probably see the smallest of local bands to the biggest of metal bands playing these amps. 6505s tend to be "mid-focused" so trying to crank the mids on this amp might not be the greatest idea. The low response on this amp is pretty sweet as well. Hit the note hard enough and it picks up that low note twang that Engl is known for. Of course it’s not gonna be the Engl twang, but the 6505+ definitely has a lovely bass response. Finding the balance of all of these factors are probably the most difficult task of any amp you get. I had troubles with the highs and presence for a while, but after being able to talk to someone who knew WAY more than I did, he was able to help me get it sorted out.

The rhythm channel is truly a hidden gem. I always wondered why I saw artists running the rhythm channel with the crunch switch engaged, the gain cranked up, and using it as their main distorted channel. It’s because if you can get the EQ right, not only does it offer a great distorted tone, but it’s extremely punchier and slightly more articulate than the lead channel. The lead channel is great for distortion as well, don’t get me wrong. The lead channel just gives you a more saturated tone than the rhythm channel. Both are great channels and I use them equally.

The clean tone on this amp is also underestimated. As I will explain in the next paragraph(s), the cab makes a MONUMENTAL difference in tone and clarity. I’m actually able to get an AMAZING clean tone on my 6505+. It’s no Fender of course, but I truly mean an AMAZING clean tone. The bright switch comes in for that amazingly.

As for a cab, I was playing through a B-52 ST-412 w/ Vintage 30s. For a while, I always had trouble finding my right tone. Everything always just sounded wrong to me. Turns out, it was the cab; mainly the Vintage 30s (fanboys don’t piss and moan because you’d be surprised how bad not only those speakers are, but how flawed the 4x12 design is in general). I am actually playing through a custom Omega Enclosure (if you haven’t heard of these guys yet, go to their website NOW) 4x12 w/ 1x15 speaker (I’m going to do a review on this cab within the next month or two; I’ll go more into depth why V30s are not as good as you think they are and why most cab companies out there don’t make very good cabs in general) which DRASTICALLY improved my tone. People really tend to take the cabinet for granted because, after talking to Mike and getting the whole cab planned out, being able to hear how clearly the new cab affected my tone was astonishing.

Before, with the B-52, I ran a TS9 in front of the head to try to tighten the tone up. Now the only effect I run is my noise gate. The tone of the 6505+ is truly amazing if you can run it through a quality cab like an Omega Enclosures cab. Talk to Mike at Omega Enclosures, he’ll really change your perspective if you have an open mind about it. And don’t think that these cabs are completely unaffordable. I picked up mine for around $1170, which is just slightly more than a standard Mesa/Marshall/etc. 4x12, and I GUARANTEE you that none of those companies will put forth as much attention and effort into your cab as Omega Enclosures will.

I wish I could give 9.5 because it’s almost my perfect tone. It would’ve been probably about a 7-8 with the Vintage 30s, but the Omega Enclosures cab really really really saved the day on this one. // 9

Reliability & Durability: Well, when I was in my previous band, this amp made it to a few shows. It definitely never fell apart so that’s nice. The exterior components (handle, rubber feet, power cable) seem to be pretty sturdy. I don’t understand why Peavey didn’t allow for a detachable power cable though. Rubber feet are nice and solid and I’ve had no problem with the amp falling off from my cab.

I’ve read that most 6505+s have this issue with the standby/power switches, but mine does it a little with the channels. Trying to switch the channel while the amp hasn’t been played for at least good 20-30 minutes results in a little popping noise that comes from the amp. It seems to be beyond the switches as well because the sound still occurs even when I switch with the footswitch. Also, switching the power off after switching the standby off will result in a little popping noise as well. I’ll have to take it in to the shop because I’d hate to destroy this thing while trying to do it myself.

Fortunately, I’m more of a studio musician/home-producer so I don’t really have to worry much about this amp being put into any serious peril. I am looking to get it modded soon, though, with parts that will benefit the overall life of the head itself. // 7

Impression: I have concluded that I am actually very pleased with the amp, although I did have to wait almost 5 months to receive it (Peavey’s fault). Even though there are wiring flaws, at the moment I believe them to be ultimately harmless yet still a nuisance. All of that aside, the amp definitely is a keeper. The tone I get from it as I said before, almost perfect (I’m a sucker for Engls). For the price, I really don’t think you’re gonna find a better tube head for metal. The 6505+ not only has a great distortion, but a very versatile distortion. I’m still discovering all of the other possibilities with this amp and I have no intention in parting with this amp until it just completely breaks down.

BUT REMEMBER PEOPLE. CABS MAKE A DIFFERENCE. AND DON’T GET SUCKED INTO THE V30 HYPE BECAUSE THEY AREN’T AS GOOD AS THEY SEEM. Your tone can be achieved much more easily and much less costly than you believe it to be. Effects like delay, pitch, reverb, etc are cool and all but purely from a tone stand point, buying a Mesa/Orange Cab and then having a rack full of ODs, EQs, and Sonic Maximizers is NOT the answer. Talk to Mike Smith at Omega Enclosures and he’ll get you straightened out real quick. // 9

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comments policy  14  comments posted
     
PSM wrote on 09/18/2008 - 08:17 am / quote |
Whoops, I made one mistake in this review. I meant to say that the regular 6505 has two channels with a single EQ for both, not just a single channel.
     
huevos wrote on 11/07/2008 - 01:10 am / quote |
Ah, now I see why I couldn't get distortion out of it at the Guitar shop.
I didn't even dare go passed 2

Thanks man, now I don't want a 6505 so much anymore.
That's just to much power
     
Huffman wrote on 04/09/2009 - 09:19 pm / quote |
i want the 6506+ combp!!! soo bad... i played the 6505+ stack the other day in the guitar store... i was proly on like .5 post gain and still the best sounding amp i have ever heard... i luve it but a stack is not practicle for me so imma get the combo... when i get $800 together that is
     
ESPman6505+ wrote on 05/07/2009 - 12:15 pm / quote |
i would have to say that i'm so glad i purchased this amp because i absolutly love it! It has the perfect sound that i want
     
Goblin67 wrote on 05/10/2009 - 05:06 pm / quote |
ya know I think this is the first time I've ever heard metal gutiarist bitch that theres to much power im def going to buy this stack
     
PSM wrote on 06/01/2009 - 04:59 pm / quote |
Goblin67 wrote:

ya know I think this is the first time I've ever heard metal gutiarist bitch that theres to much power im def going to buy this stack

I'm just calling it how it is for my situation. I play a LOT of shows (clubs, bars, outdoors venues, auditoriums, you name it), 60+ a year sometimes, and when you get a good grasp on how stage volume for everyone in the band affects your overall sound as a band to your audience, you start caring less about the advertised wattage numbers and more about how much you need to crank the amp to get the best sound out of it. If you can't get the sound you're looking for without cranking a 120-watt amp to 5 in a small venue then you have too much power for your situation. Some people don't care so much about sound and just want to be as loud as possible. If that's you then this amp will probably be perfect for you.
     
lyonk55 wrote on 07/31/2009 - 05:42 pm / quote |
Huffman wrote:

i want the 6506+ combp!!! soo bad... i played the 6505+ stack the other day in the guitar store... i was proly on like .5 post gain and still the best sounding amp i have ever heard... i luve it but a stack is not practicle for me so imma get the combo... when i get $800 together that is


You American I take it? If so, you're lucky - I saw the 6506+ 112 online for almost £600 and the RRP was apparently £899!
     
Tempoe wrote on 09/14/2009 - 05:21 pm / quote |
I thought the 112 combo was 60w, thats still pretty damn loud i bet.
     
Hello 43 wrote on 09/06/2010 - 09:53 pm / quote |
would this amp be good as a practice/gig amp if i want to play metalica/avenged sevenfold inspired music?
     
dkunick wrote on 09/09/2010 - 09:18 pm / quote |
Oh yes. And then some.
     
Dimejaguar wrote on 07/23/2011 - 01:12 am / quote |
yes i too own this amp and it frkn rocks, but yes it is loud. especially in a small room, open the widows before you blow them out
     
lintball0190 wrote on 08/06/2011 - 11:35 pm / quote |
huevos wrote:

Ah, now I see why I couldn't get distortion out of it at the Guitar shop.
I didn't even dare go passed 2

lol yea i couldn't figure it out at first either..i thought the guitar was messed up..but i eventually got it. it was pretty mean sounding. but i still think i like the Marshall MA Series better ..

Thanks man, now I don't want a 6505 so much anymore.
That's just to much power
     
lintball0190 wrote on 08/06/2011 - 11:38 pm / quote |


oops i messed up that last post. i meant to say

lol yea i couldn't figure it out at first either..i thought the guitar was messed up..but i eventually got it. it was pretty mean sounding. but i still think i like the Marshall MA Series better ..

yea that's whack that their is a single eq..i guess if it comes with a footswitch and there is a Crunch On/Off button on it. But it seemed like one channel was more for cleans even with the Crunch button pressed in. I don't know..too confusing..maybe if i read the instructions..

     
lintball0190 wrote on 08/06/2011 - 11:39 pm / quote |
and why is there a picture of just a head ? isn't this the 60 watt 212 combo ? and does anyone know if the 5150 is the EXACT same thing ? are the controls different. because the tone on the 6505 wasn't bad..
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