Music In Depth

The basic history of music from 60's to today in chronological order.

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I am not one of those people that will come on to these boards saying things so generic as "GC sux!", "Rap sux", or "today's music sux!" This is because those are all ignorant comments; people who say those things have no clue what they are talking about.

Mainstream Music:

Mainstream music today, most of it, is incredibly generic and stupid. Now, I am not going to preach about the origins of punk because we all know where it began, but I will say I do despise bands such as Simple Plan and Good Charolette who do nothing but whine into the mics and play 3 power chords over and over, it gives me a headache. Mainstream rock isn't much better. Most bands now days will strive to release a single and get it to number one, then they will fade away. But Wait! Some time they release 2, yes 2, or even 3 singles! Does this make them good? In my opinion no. What makes a band good is staying true to the music they started out with and maybe not even releasing a single but bands such as tool don't even get air time because people (most) cannot understand the lyrics.(I will talk about this later on) Mainstream rap I can't say enough about how much it sucks, because it does. That doesn't mean rap sucks because I like some of it but mainstream is just about cars, money, and hoes. That's it and not a soul can argue against that.

Old Music, and Non-Mainstream Music (Underground):

Finally, what I came here to talk about, the eras of the great musicians and bands. This will be the longest section by far.

I'll start in chronological order, with one of my favorite guitarists of all time: Jimi Hendrix. Jimi, in the late sixties and early seventies, combined 12-bar blues scales and Motown influence, which was in that era, with his own imagination to make sounds no one had ever heard before. He was amazing and wrote songs which have become modern day anthems and have been remade by artists such as U2 and Stevie Ray Vaughan.

Pink Floyd is credited for inventing the "stoner-rock" genere and was formed in 1965 but wasn't popular until the late 60's.

The Beatles were also formed in the late sixties and helped shape music to come.

And let me not forget Fleetwood Mac, who I don't personally like but am forced to respect.

Then came the seventies which churned out such great bands as Led Zeppelin, Aerosmith, Rolling Stones, Ozzy Osbourne, Peter Frampton, AC / DC, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, and so many more. Kiss was also formed in this era, but personally I do not like them, however, I do realize their importance to today's music. Let me take a minute to honor Led Zeppelin by saying they are one of the greatest bands of all time and have continued to make great music throughout the 70's, 80's, 90's, and today. As great as Aerosmith and The Rolling Stones are, they are no where near as influential as Ozzy Osbourne, who helped to mold modern day metal with such powerful tracks such as "Iron Man", "Crazy Train", and "Paranoid". Like Zeppelin, he continues to make music today.

Now we come to the 80's, some of the best and worst music came out of this era. I'll start off with the bad. Boy bands such as New Kids on The Block and other pop acts such as Prince, and Boy George are the bands that inspired the members of N*Sync, 98 degrees, and The infamous...Backstreet Boys; all of the 90's.

Aside from this there are such bands such as Twisted Sister, Guns 'N Roses, and various other scream acts that defined the era, more or less. Now, I didn't live in the Eighties so I cannot name every band that was big but for the most part, I believe I am correct. These bands most people either hated or loved, there was no in between, but they quickly dies away with the grunge movement and the dawn of a new breed of metal...Metallica.

Formed in 1981, Metallica was the new sound of music, they were heavier, louder, (without the screaming however), and dare I say it...they didn't wear make up! Now given, Metallica wasn't the only band of it's kind they were others such as Exodus, Slayer, Megadeth, Mesuggah, and Pantera were also defying the generation of music. Some bands of the seventies, as discussed earlier, also spanned their reign into the eighties and did it well.

Now to the early 90's with the grunge movement. Alice in Chains, Nirvana, and Pearl Jam, (which I am currently listening to as I write this) are some of my favorite bands and without a doubt some of the best there ever was. They taught the adults of the day the dark side of their teen's supposed happy-go-lucky life. Sadly, the lead singer of Nirvana, Kurt Cobain, and the lead singer of Alice in Chains, Layne Staley, both committed suicide. Eddie Vedder, Pearl Jam's front man, did not but is continually ripped off by such bands as Creed, Puddle of Mudd, and numerous others. One band I would like to talk about is Tool. They were never too popular in their day but they created some of the most amazing music out there with one of their best cd's Aneima. It is hard to say what genere they were but in my opinion, they simply created their own, being so ahead of their time. Radiohead, also, should not go unnoticed. One of the great bands of the 90's and to some of all time, Radiohead did something new with their record O.K. Computer. Well, that leads us back to today's music. I've already talked about the rock of today, if you will. But there are several metal bands that deserve recognition. Mudvayne, for instance, throws in powerful, moving lyrics (yes, listen closely) with heavy, heavy bass lines, and a driving guitar to create extraordinary sounds. Definitely one of a kind.

Then other bands such as, Superjoint Ritual, Hatebreed, and Cradle of Filth are the new sound of metal. Worth checking out in my opinion. No Doubt, as much as I hate them, I also have to give some credit because they do deserve it after all these years of creating music. Sisters of Mercy, and not too many more, have created, rather, revived the Gothic genere. Lest we forget Rage Against The Machine, one of my favorites. An amazingly political band, Tom Morello and Zach De La Rocha create bewildering music worthy of anyone's money. Then there are underground bands such as, S.T.U.N., Stellerstar, and some other underground punk (the good stuff) that you should look for.

I hope this helped you in your omnipresent quest to find great music.

IM me on my sn, DJALL89, if anyone has comments or corrections because I, also, would like to learn about what I am listening to.

And you thought I would leave off Elvis, THE KING OF ALL ROCK.

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    Wolfman
    Elvis is a fatass ugly drug-biTch and nothing more. He did whrote some good songs but nowdays all the music companies wanna make more money on the dead fatass so it is very enoying.
    frigginjerk
    there's a difference between criticizing needlessly and critiqing work. i come off as arrogant for two reasons: 1. If something is correct, i don't point it out. That's just my style. If you were right about something, then you were right, and i don't mention it, other than to say "good article." I point out the wrong stuff so as to inform others that what they have just read is incorrect. Sure it's a tad harsh sometimes, but if you don't like it, then check your facts before posting it on a music website. 2. I've been surfing UG for a long time, and i've been in tons of debates over this stuff, so i'm in the mindset that any errors i see have been addressed over and over and over and over. I've had the same debates about this and that many times, so i don't really spare the rod when it comes to correcting stuff like that. for the record i'm 19. i don't claim that everyone is wrong and i'm right. but i ususally find the articles on UG to be one-sided and poorly researched. so i make an effort to play devil's advocate. we're all on this site to get educated right? as you said above, my article was good and insightful. i find that the main message behind most articles on UG is as follows: "I think _____ kind of music is good. I think _____ is not good. My reasons for saying this? Well I just think so, that's why. Here's a list of my favorite bands _____, _____, and _____. Here's some bands that are talentless sellouts and corporate abominations: _____, _____ and blink-182." before you go nuts, i will say that your article was better than that. my main problem was with your mix-ups on the facts. I thought your main point came off as "classic rock = good, new music = bad." and as you said, you are only 11. that's pretty impressive. but this is the internet, and people have balls of steel on the internet, and they are gonna say this and that, and you mgiht as well get used to it. i'll say right now that i prefer classic rock over ANY genre, any day of the week. but i don't write articles preaching about that, since music appreciation is subjective. the only way to measure goodness of music is in the emotional response OF the listener, TO the music. but we don't all respond the same way to the same songs. so i avoid writing about that. I look at the bare facts, and when i make a general statement, i make sure it will stand up to most arguments. as such the only people who can detract from it are people who single out one reference, take it out of context, and slam me for it over and over, all the while missing my whole point. point is, i don't just rip on people to be an ass. i do it because i like to do what i can to help everyone gain a better understanding of the topic at hand. and i guess my arrogance is just a product of my being at UG for so long. peace out.
    Djall89
    to friggin jerk, how old r u? and i just read your article called "tackling the big ones" it was very very good and insightful
    Djall89
    also to friggin jerk, we are both wron the beatles were formed in the fifties
    Djall89
    one more thing, does anyone else thni frigginjerk is a tad arrogant, not just here but in other article comments as well, all he does is criticize people and say that hes right adn noone else is, its ridiculous
    Jeff69
    your a ***in loser if u dont like Led Zeppelin, Aerosmith, Rolling Stones, Ozzy Osbourne, Peter Frampton, AC / DC, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest ect rap is gay the new skater boy punk horse shit suxs rancid rocks
    Whaling Geetar
    Djall89, I can see how the new Led Zeppelin CD coulda thrown you off It's actually a compilation of previously unreleased live tracks, I think. And are you really only 11? If you are then I'm impressed. I wasn't half as coherent as you at that age and didn't know a thing about music (I'm 19 now). Pretty good article man, keep up the good work
    Djall89
    to frigginjerk, ya you know wat ur talkin about thanks for clearnin that up
    Djall89
    to whaling geetar, well first thanks for saying it politely, i know that sounds dumb but most people would have said "you ***in dumbshit go die, led zeppelin stopped in the 80's!!!" but I got confused b/c their cd "how the west was won" I thought it came out just recently and was all new stuff.....
    loves.squier
    Ozzy didn't do shit, it was Iommi and Randy Rhoads that made the band. I personally think Randy is alittle more influencial because he was the first who really shred (Iommi was bleh opposed to randy)and Randy's songs were more indepth I thought. Iommi was the Tom Delonge of Metal when it comes to catchy riffs requiring little to no skill and then solos that are barely more difficult from the riffs. But I dont like it when people give credit to Ozzy. What did he do!? Sing a few songs? He's a musical retard in comparison to the guitarists he has played with.
    Ratiug318
    what do u mean ozzy didnt do shit, he has one of the most memorable voices in rock!
    twobyfour
    Its amazing what music would be like if Kurt had continued to make good music... He would have inspired bands to make more good music and maybe Rock wouldnt be "resting". I think Someone should write about possible influences if great musicians hadnt died.. Jimi Hendrix, Lynyrd Skynyrd's singer(sorry, I dont know his name), and the list goes on.
    Djall89
    lynard skynard's singer was ronnie van zant im not sure how to spell it though, and ya Ozzy did do alot, and yes Rand Rhoads was great, so was Iommi, and Wylde....the difficulty of the actual guitar riff doesn't matter, its the sound
    knicks3311
    Wow, i'll just say that for the first time i could not agree with friggenjerk more. In that first elaborate drawn out comment he made more sense than your entire article. Why can't the rest of your articles look like that comment?
    skasolo
    friggenjerk, i know you know your music well, but give him a break hes only eleven. He just didnt set things out as clearly as he should have
    frigginjerk
    ^ well, i like all their stuff. In Through The Out Door was a weird album, but i still liked it. Fool In The Rain is one of the best pop songs i've ever heard.
    crzywhiteboy
    i love this. great job but you forgot about one also very good guitar player that should be on the good list which is santana.Even though i dont like his songs i like the way he playes and he got some f---ing skills.
    Oswald
    I FUCKIN HATE THIS FUKKIN SITE!!!! MY FUKKIN ACCOUNT HAS BEEN FUKKIN STOPED!!!! I AM BANNED!!! AND I DONT KNOW WHY???? I CANT GET INTO ANYTHING!!!! AND MY COMPUTER DOS NOT GET THAT I WANNA MAKE A NEW ACCOUNT???
    joak
    I can see that you are heavily into your music.I am to but I guess to a lesser extent.I enjoy the progression of music.Most people think of scottish music as bagpipes and fiddles(violin)but there is a great wealth of scottish music which is always progressing.Some of the younger bands are blending rock with country and pop with new orleans blues.I would ask any musicians out there dont be blinkered ....experiment you never know you might just like it~~~~~
    big gun
    The beatles started in the late sixties? zeppelin still making great music? tool not popular?(i went to see tool at a sold out stadium, just cuz you dont hear their songs on the radio isnt cuz their not popular its because their eight minutes long mudvanyne does suck and the deftones do rock love the stranger
    Djall89
    ya deftones are great and where the *** do i say anything about them not being good??? btw i have everyopne of their cds....and ya i left stuff off but im not a professional i got bored one daya and wrote this and im only elevn gimme a ***in break i didnt login in sorry but that was me
    frigginjerk
    The Beatles were formed in the EARLY 60's. The Rolling Stones were formed in the EARLY 60's, NOT the 70's. Also, the were FAR more influential than Ozzy was, because they influenced artists in many genres. Guns N Roses give enormous credit to both Aerosmtih and the Stones, and is known for covering their tunes in concert. I've even read interviews with hardcore punk rockers who give credit to Aerosmith as an influence. I'm not saying Ozzy didn't do anything for other artists, but get your facts straight. Led Zeppelin stopped making music in 1980, when they broke up following John Bonham's death. I get the feeling that you don't actually know anything about Led Zeppelin. You made no mention of Eric Clapton, his multitude of bands, projects and genre-crossovers, which hugely influenced all kinds of music as well. You also forgot The Doors. They were insanely influential. The Who was missed as well. Jimi Hendrix owes his entire live show to Pete Townsend. Although you said you're not here to piss and moan about music, that is exactly what you've done, under the guise of a history lesson, which is also faulted at many points. You said that you don't like mainstream rock because they play simple chords and strive to sell out. That's a generalization, and although there is some truth to it, i suggest that you read MY article entitled "Today's Music Blows... Or Does It?" You then went on to say what everyone always says when they are moaning about the state of current music, which is this: "the best bands are either classic rock/metal, or are currently not famous and only play in the underground scene." that is an ignorant comment. rather than saying "GC sux," you have said "GC is incredibly generic and stupid." big difference, huh? now, i'm sure you'll say "so what if i botched a few facts? you know what i mean!" but that would be useless, since your entire article is composed of facts. you use facts (some of which are incorrect) to prove your opinons (which are fairly close-minded). Just because you have listened to a broad range of music does not mean you are justified by saying "mainstream music is not good. classic rock and underground metal is the best." in a nutshell, that's what you said. and it's ignorant.
    Whaling Geetar
    That comment about how Led Zeppelin is still making great music today really threw me off...Like frigginjerk said they stopped making music in the early 80's after their drummer John Bonham died. They stopped making GOOD music in the mid/late 70's.
    Wolfman
    Okay guys!!!!! Listen up!!!! I am not going to say anything stupid anymore.... So no stuff like **** you, you know..... Cause the webmaster has forbid me to..... SO I wont say anything bad for a whole week. So stop messing with me. Cause if you do... I will break down on you guys in a week!!!!!
    Wolfman
    I forgot to tell you guys that Wolfman.... Is actually Oswald!!!!! I got two accounts!!!!!
    frigginjerk
    ^ if the mods find out (which they are about to) you will probably be banned from both.
    ad_lib_oz
    oswald/wolfman = blocked anyways article was a bit hmmm hooray for frigginjerk!
    Djall89
    well in response to friggin jerk, ya i got my facts right, and i didnt JUST say gc sucks, i gave a couple reasons why, and no im not being close minded at all and to crazzy white boy,,, ya i did leave off santyana dn stevie ray vaughan, which are 2 of the geates guitarists of all time
    Oswald
    Those anybody on this site dont hate me? Cause I am feeling alot of negative energy... Bad Karma, Maaaan..... Sorry, I sounded a little hippy there...
    Oswald
    I hate when people ask me "Can you play some Ozzy?" They mean Black Sabbath. Black Sabbath is the name of the BAND!!!! Not one person.