The Used Drumset/Beginner Guide: Who, what, where, why, and how much?

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whoomit
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#42
Quote by Lordyboy
If you have your heart set on upgrading your kit, I'd recommend what I use, a Mapex Meridian Birch. I bought my 6-piece for £600 including hardware, and it will likely be cheaper now, especially if you get a smaller configuration or buy used

I haven't tried the Meridian but the Horizon Birch can be bought for around £450 new and is fantastic. It's what I use as my home kit, and it's pretty close to my Orion I'd say.

Plus, that colour

Last edited by whoomit at Nov 26, 2012,
Fisheth24
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#43
Looks nice, that's a 5 piece right?

Edit: where from? I see them for about £500+ on Google Shopping? (not the best place I know)

I know nothing about drumkits, so I thought I'd post in here and be educated!
Last edited by Fisheth24 at Nov 26, 2012,
whoomit
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#44
Quote by Fisheth24
Looks nice, that's a 5 piece right?

Edit: where from? I see them for about £500+ on Google Shopping? (not the best place I know)

I know nothing about drumkits, so I thought I'd post in here and be educated!

Ah sorry, it's only the Club Classic that's around £450. I don't really know what the difference is, other than being just a 4 piece

http://www.andertons.co.uk/shell-packs/pid24295/cid639/mapex-horizon-club-classic-rattan-yellow-w-14-snare-38-hardware.asp?utm_source=googlebase&utm_medium=pricecomp&utm_campaign=GoogleShopping

Mine's a 6 piece btw. I purchased it from Rockem Music: http://www.rockemmusic.com/product/mapex-horizon-birch-hzb-trans-sapphire-fade-drum-kit-hzb5295fjb-si

They have some LTD Edition one in too: http://www.rockemmusic.com/product/mapex-hzb-horizon-birch-ltd-edition-drum-kit-hzb6295bmsk-fe-satin-walnut-fade
Fisheth24
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#45
Quote by whoomit


The horizon looks nice, what sort of cymbals come with it?
whoomit
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#46
Ah, no cymbals. Forgot about that. You'd maybe be better off getting a cheaper kit and some decent cymbals then. The sound of a kit can always be tweaked with heads, cymbals can't really.
Fisheth24
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#47
Quote by whoomit
Ah, no cymbals. Forgot about that. You'd maybe be better off getting a cheaper kit and some decent cymbals then. The sound of a kit can always be tweaked with heads, cymbals can't really.


True, so this one

http://www.rockemmusic.com/product/mapex-hzb-horizon-birch-ltd-edition-drum-kit-hzb6295bmsk-fe-satin-walnut-fade

Has no cymbals too, right?

And the Paiste 101's are of virtually not very good quality then?
Last edited by Fisheth24 at Nov 26, 2012,
whoomit
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#48
No cymbals with that one either.

I don't have much recent experience with any cymbals to be honest. The only cymbals I have any exposure to these days are my own.

If I remember rightly then the Paiste 101s sounded nicer than the Solar by Sonar cymbals I played for my first few years.

It all depends on how you think it sounds really. If you like the sound of your 101s then keep playing them. Cheap cymbals are good for the first couple years anyway, whilst you get your technique down. Bad technique can lead to cymbal breakage, so it's nice to have cheap ones I guess.
Lordyboy
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#50
It's probably better to buy without cymbals, since those ones will likely be worse than your 101s
Lordyboy
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#52
Yep. Whenever the cymbals are the same brand as the kit itself, they're very likely to be very poor cymbals. You're better of buying your cymbals from a specialist cymbal manufacturer (e.g. Paiste, Zildjian, Sabian) rather than ones from manufacturers of the actual kits (such as the mapex ones you see there.
Fisheth24
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#53
Quote by Lordyboy
Yep. Whenever the cymbals are the same brand as the kit itself, they're very likely to be very poor cymbals. You're better of buying your cymbals from a specialist cymbal manufacturer (e.g. Paiste, Zildjian, Sabian) rather than ones from manufacturers of the actual kits (such as the mapex ones you see there.



So if I buy just a shell kit, I'm able to attach the high toms to the bass drum?

Like I said, I'm really new to this.

So sorry for stupid questions.
Lordyboy
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#54
Yes, their will be a tom mount on the bass drum, or some clamps so you can attach your toms onto cymbal stands. If this is not the case, then it will say so (or it will be listed as a 'shellpack'), and so if it doesn't say anything then it should have some stands/mounts with it.
Fisheth24
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#55
Quote by Lordyboy
Yes, their will be a tom mount on the bass drum, or some clamps so you can attach your toms onto cymbal stands. If this is not the case, then it will say so (or it will be listed as a 'shellpack'), and so if it doesn't say anything then it should have some stands/mounts with it.


Brilliant, I think I'll check out some of the local drum shops near me for stuff and I'll report back with what I find and thoughts on them.

Cheers guys.
Max-Roach
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#56
Quote by Niiko
Aye, you can normally hear some cymbal samples on the Youtube from Mycymbal.com or The Memphis drum store

I love vintage drums but not the hardware though, something about it just scares me.


Then you've never seen vintage Premier hardware...shits like ****ing art and solid as a rock
GuitarMom1
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#57
I am buying a new beginner drumset kit for my daughter...from GC..any recommendations??? Dont want to spens a lot right now..she is only 3 lessons in
Afroboy267
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#58
I've found the Alesis DM6 to be one of the best beginner kits. I owned one for a couple of years before upgrading to the DM10, which is also awesome
kylefreedman81
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#59
Hi,

I am new to drums (and am going to buy an electronic set(don't judge)) and I was just wondering if Alesis is a good brand for electronic drums. I know Roland and Yamaha are usually the way to go when it comes to buying electronic drums, but the Alesis got less reviews so I was wondering if anyone on here has a set of Alesis DM8 Pro Electronic Drums. Also, if anyone could give me a list of some beginner songs for drums that would be great.

Sincerely,

A Nooby Drummer
jake_cathey
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#60
I have a beginner Tama Swingstar drumset with a 22" bass drum, 12 and 13" hanging toms, and a 16" floor tom, and a 14" snare. If anyone is looking for a great drum head setup, I would reccomend this.

Toms:
Batters- Evans G2s coated.
Reso heads- Evans G1s clear.

Snare:
Batter- Evans HD dry.
Reso- Evans G1s clear.

The G2s paired with the G1s create a beautiful tom sound.
chthulu666
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#63
I agree with this guy i got lucky and found a pearl export 5 piece set in front of a dumpster was missing a tom arm had some light rust and snare bass drum heads needed replacing also had to buy cymbals and hardware
Found all cymbals and hardware cheap on craiglist a sabian 21inb8 for20 bucks meinl 10in splash for 10bucks