ethanwhufc
Frank Turners father
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#1
Okay, so ive just ordered one off eBay for £230.00 and it comes with a hardcase.
Here is why it was cheaper.

' This Guitar is a NEW Factory 2nd ( sold as used ) and has a small hard to see rub thru on top edge .


My Factory 2nd guitars are deemed as such directly from the manufacturer. They have never been previously sold in retail or distributed to a music store. These guitars are marked as 2nd by the manufacturer when they fail to pass final inspection. They usually will have a minor cosmetic finishing flaw that prevents them from being sold as new instruments. These blemishes do not affect the playability of the instruments at all, and otherwise these guitars are brand new instruments.

Apart from the defect listed they are perfect , all the electronics , pickups , tuners and frets etc. are good . Every guitar is checked out by me before shipping. There is no manufactures warranty. Sometimes it is difficult to identify why some of these guitars were marked as seconds.

The advantage of purchasing a factory 2nd or refurbished guitar is the tremendous value. These guitars are often sold at hundreds of dollars less than their 'new' counterparts. You are basically getting a never owned, like-new condition or near-perfect condition guitar for the price of a used instrument'


Can anyone tell me what is actually wrong with it? Having trouble following it
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#2
It is a factory second because there is a flaw in the finish.
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ethanwhufc
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#3
Quote by RealGuitarHero
It is a factory second because there is a flaw in the finish.


yes, but what kind of flaw can that be?
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#4
Quote by ethanwhufc
yes, but what kind of flaw can that be?

just something minor for instance a small blemish in the paint/clear coat
ethanwhufc
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#5
Quote by jackjb94
just something minor for instance a small blemish in the paint/clear coat


So it's not going to be anything to noticeable?
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Fender Strat
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Brunswick BD20012 Acoustic Guitar

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Fender FM65DSP
Peavey Windsor HalfStack
-Through-
Boss Me 70
TuningGamer
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#6
Well, there's no warranty.. Seems fine though, and you ordered it already, so just wait and see. Happy NGD for when you get it!
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The actual correct answer
ethanwhufc
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#7
Quote by TuningGamer
Well, there's no warranty.. Seems fine though, and you ordered it already, so just wait and see. Happy NGD for when you get it!


Thankyou
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-Through-
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#8
i'm sure you'll find out when it turns up
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ethanwhufc
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#9
Quote by Dave_Mc
i'm sure you'll find out when it turns up


This is what worries me, haha and the fact its coming from America I live in Ireland so no hope of returing it at all
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-Through-
Boss Me 70
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#10
ah right

yeah i think it's fingers crossed time
Quote by classicrocker01
Only on UG would I say I got engaged and bought a jet city and get congratulated on the amp


ethanwhufc
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#11
Quote by Dave_Mc
ah right

yeah i think it's fingers crossed time


posting this thread has made me realize how bad this could turn out. but his eBay account has reaaaaaaaally good ratings
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Vintage SG VS6
Brunswick BD20012 Acoustic Guitar

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-Through-
Boss Me 70
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#12
och nah i mean it might be ok. fingers crossed it's just cosmetic or something.
Quote by classicrocker01
Only on UG would I say I got engaged and bought a jet city and get congratulated on the amp


ethanwhufc
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#13
Quote by Dave_Mc
och nah i mean it might be ok. fingers crossed it's just cosmetic or something.


What does cosmetic mean? haha I'm quite the stupid you see
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Peavey Windsor HalfStack
-Through-
Boss Me 70
I K0nijn I
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#14
Cosmetic = looks.
It might have a dent already, or a chip, or just a spot where the finish is badly applied. Don't worry too much, if the seller is telling the truth, it should play just fine. :-)
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#15
yeah cosmetics are just looks
Quote by classicrocker01
Only on UG would I say I got engaged and bought a jet city and get congratulated on the amp


ethanwhufc
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#16
Sorry for the really late reply, forgot about this thread!

Yep it arrived, guitar case is really bad (but i dont mind only paid $10 for it haha)
Guitar seems in perfect condition couldn't find the slight mark that was supposed to be on it!
Really, really happy with it



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Peavey Windsor HalfStack
-Through-
Boss Me 70
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#17
You need to do a NGD tread.

But till then HNGD!
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#18
TS, I don't notice anything bad about it in those photos Have fun shredding.
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#19
It looks better than mine did. :P HNGD. :-) They're great beat around guitars in my opinion.
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#20
nice
Quote by classicrocker01
Only on UG would I say I got engaged and bought a jet city and get congratulated on the amp


ethanwhufc
Frank Turners father
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#21
Cheers guys!
Equipment:

Guitars
Fender Tele Deluxe '72
Ibanez RG350DX
Fender Strat
Vintage SG VS6
Brunswick BD20012 Acoustic Guitar

Amps
Fender FM65DSP
Peavey Windsor HalfStack
-Through-
Boss Me 70