#1
Okay, so ive just ordered one off eBay for £230.00 and it comes with a hardcase.
Here is why it was cheaper.

' This Guitar is a NEW Factory 2nd ( sold as used ) and has a small hard to see rub thru on top edge .


My Factory 2nd guitars are deemed as such directly from the manufacturer. They have never been previously sold in retail or distributed to a music store. These guitars are marked as 2nd by the manufacturer when they fail to pass final inspection. They usually will have a minor cosmetic finishing flaw that prevents them from being sold as new instruments. These blemishes do not affect the playability of the instruments at all, and otherwise these guitars are brand new instruments.

Apart from the defect listed they are perfect , all the electronics , pickups , tuners and frets etc. are good . Every guitar is checked out by me before shipping. There is no manufactures warranty. Sometimes it is difficult to identify why some of these guitars were marked as seconds.

The advantage of purchasing a factory 2nd or refurbished guitar is the tremendous value. These guitars are often sold at hundreds of dollars less than their 'new' counterparts. You are basically getting a never owned, like-new condition or near-perfect condition guitar for the price of a used instrument'


Can anyone tell me what is actually wrong with it? Having trouble following it
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#2
It is a factory second because there is a flaw in the finish.
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#3
Quote by RealGuitarHero
It is a factory second because there is a flaw in the finish.


yes, but what kind of flaw can that be?
Equipment:

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Fender Tele Deluxe '72
Ibanez RG350DX
Fender Strat
Vintage SG VS6
Brunswick BD20012 Acoustic Guitar

Amps
Fender FM65DSP
Peavey Windsor HalfStack
-Through-
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#4
Quote by ethanwhufc
yes, but what kind of flaw can that be?

just something minor for instance a small blemish in the paint/clear coat
#5
Quote by jackjb94
just something minor for instance a small blemish in the paint/clear coat


So it's not going to be anything to noticeable?
Equipment:

Guitars
Fender Tele Deluxe '72
Ibanez RG350DX
Fender Strat
Vintage SG VS6
Brunswick BD20012 Acoustic Guitar

Amps
Fender FM65DSP
Peavey Windsor HalfStack
-Through-
Boss Me 70
#6
Well, there's no warranty.. Seems fine though, and you ordered it already, so just wait and see. Happy NGD for when you get it!
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The actual correct answer
#7
Quote by TuningGamer
Well, there's no warranty.. Seems fine though, and you ordered it already, so just wait and see. Happy NGD for when you get it!


Thankyou
Equipment:

Guitars
Fender Tele Deluxe '72
Ibanez RG350DX
Fender Strat
Vintage SG VS6
Brunswick BD20012 Acoustic Guitar

Amps
Fender FM65DSP
Peavey Windsor HalfStack
-Through-
Boss Me 70
#8
i'm sure you'll find out when it turns up
Quote by crownegamers
I saw in a couple of pictures that on Bucketheads Les Paul (only some pictures) that his neck pickup is painted in white. Can anyone explain to me why he would do this, and if there are any pros and cons.

Quote by dspellman
The guy wears a KFC Bucket and a white mask during performances, and you're interested in the color of his pickup covers?

#9
Quote by Dave_Mc
i'm sure you'll find out when it turns up


This is what worries me, haha and the fact its coming from America I live in Ireland so no hope of returing it at all
Equipment:

Guitars
Fender Tele Deluxe '72
Ibanez RG350DX
Fender Strat
Vintage SG VS6
Brunswick BD20012 Acoustic Guitar

Amps
Fender FM65DSP
Peavey Windsor HalfStack
-Through-
Boss Me 70
#10
ah right

yeah i think it's fingers crossed time
Quote by crownegamers
I saw in a couple of pictures that on Bucketheads Les Paul (only some pictures) that his neck pickup is painted in white. Can anyone explain to me why he would do this, and if there are any pros and cons.

Quote by dspellman
The guy wears a KFC Bucket and a white mask during performances, and you're interested in the color of his pickup covers?

#11
Quote by Dave_Mc
ah right

yeah i think it's fingers crossed time


posting this thread has made me realize how bad this could turn out. but his eBay account has reaaaaaaaally good ratings
Equipment:

Guitars
Fender Tele Deluxe '72
Ibanez RG350DX
Fender Strat
Vintage SG VS6
Brunswick BD20012 Acoustic Guitar

Amps
Fender FM65DSP
Peavey Windsor HalfStack
-Through-
Boss Me 70
#12
och nah i mean it might be ok. fingers crossed it's just cosmetic or something.
Quote by crownegamers
I saw in a couple of pictures that on Bucketheads Les Paul (only some pictures) that his neck pickup is painted in white. Can anyone explain to me why he would do this, and if there are any pros and cons.

Quote by dspellman
The guy wears a KFC Bucket and a white mask during performances, and you're interested in the color of his pickup covers?

#13
Quote by Dave_Mc
och nah i mean it might be ok. fingers crossed it's just cosmetic or something.


What does cosmetic mean? haha I'm quite the stupid you see
Equipment:

Guitars
Fender Tele Deluxe '72
Ibanez RG350DX
Fender Strat
Vintage SG VS6
Brunswick BD20012 Acoustic Guitar

Amps
Fender FM65DSP
Peavey Windsor HalfStack
-Through-
Boss Me 70
#14
Cosmetic = looks.
It might have a dent already, or a chip, or just a spot where the finish is badly applied. Don't worry too much, if the seller is telling the truth, it should play just fine. :-)
#15
yeah cosmetics are just looks
Quote by crownegamers
I saw in a couple of pictures that on Bucketheads Les Paul (only some pictures) that his neck pickup is painted in white. Can anyone explain to me why he would do this, and if there are any pros and cons.

Quote by dspellman
The guy wears a KFC Bucket and a white mask during performances, and you're interested in the color of his pickup covers?

#16
Sorry for the really late reply, forgot about this thread!

Yep it arrived, guitar case is really bad (but i dont mind only paid $10 for it haha)
Guitar seems in perfect condition couldn't find the slight mark that was supposed to be on it!
Really, really happy with it



Equipment:

Guitars
Fender Tele Deluxe '72
Ibanez RG350DX
Fender Strat
Vintage SG VS6
Brunswick BD20012 Acoustic Guitar

Amps
Fender FM65DSP
Peavey Windsor HalfStack
-Through-
Boss Me 70
#17
You need to do a NGD tread.

But till then HNGD!
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#18
TS, I don't notice anything bad about it in those photos Have fun shredding.
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#19
It looks better than mine did. :P HNGD. :-) They're great beat around guitars in my opinion.
#20
nice
Quote by crownegamers
I saw in a couple of pictures that on Bucketheads Les Paul (only some pictures) that his neck pickup is painted in white. Can anyone explain to me why he would do this, and if there are any pros and cons.

Quote by dspellman
The guy wears a KFC Bucket and a white mask during performances, and you're interested in the color of his pickup covers?

#21
Cheers guys!
Equipment:

Guitars
Fender Tele Deluxe '72
Ibanez RG350DX
Fender Strat
Vintage SG VS6
Brunswick BD20012 Acoustic Guitar

Amps
Fender FM65DSP
Peavey Windsor HalfStack
-Through-
Boss Me 70