The Daver
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#1
I can't figure out how to make an Am on the 4 high strings past fret 5 or so. I can do it with a barre at fret 5 but the piece i'm playing about with doesn't sound good with low strings.
I know it needs at least one a, e and c but i just can't figure a pattern out.

Any suggestions?
Cheers
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#2
Best suggestion is to learn the notes on your fretboard and figure it out for yourself...that's what I did. Being spoonfed chord shapes only gets you so far, if you really want to progress then at some point you have to bite the bullet and start actually learning how and why things work in music.

Learn the notes in your fretboard
Learn how to construct the major scale
Learn how to construct chords
Never have to memorise a chord shape ever again

As a pointer for a quick fix though, look at an open D chord and see how that shape might work for you higher up the neck
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Thanks dg.
And steven i'm not lazy and want spoon fed. I know all the notes and have a few books but for some strange reason i just couldn't get it tonight. Normally i can figure it out eventually but i just had an off night. But i do appreciate your tough love
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#5
Quote by The Daver
I can't figure out how to make an Am on the 4 high strings past fret 5 or so. I can do it with a barre at fret 5 but the piece i'm playing about with doesn't sound good with low strings.
I know it needs at least one a, e and c but i just can't figure a pattern out.

Any suggestions?
Cheers


another possibility


e--5-
b--5-
g--5-
D--7-
A--7-
E--5-
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play a Dm shape at the 10th fret



7th fret.

Also, learn the CAGED system.
Last edited by derek8520 at Oct 26, 2012,
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#7
Quote by CryogenicHusk
another possibility


e--5-
b--5-
g--5-
D--7-
A--7-
E--5-

Quote by The Daver
I can't figure out how to make an Am on the 4 high strings past fret 5 or so. I can do it with a barre at fret 5 but the piece i'm playing about with doesn't sound good with low strings.
I know it needs at least one a, e and c but i just can't figure a pattern out.

Any suggestions?
Cheers


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#9

e--12--
b--13--
g--14--
D-------
A-------
E-------


re-read and re-read again to make sure I didn't goof again: This one is well past the 5th fret and not using 5th or 6th string (so no on the lower strings... fact not even the the 4th string is used) and not the 5th fret barre chord. Just tryina halp.
Last edited by CryogenicHusk at Oct 26, 2012,
mdc
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#10
5-8--8--12
5-10-10-13
5-9--9--14
7-7--10-14
----
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Quote by mdc
5-8--8--12
5-10-10-13
5-9--9--14
7-7--10-14
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Fantastic thanks very much, exactly what i was looking for!
The frustrating thing is i know everything i need to work that out and couldn't. I'll take the easy option and blame it on the beer
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#12
Haha no worries. Yeah it's just chord inversions. You can actually get over 100 different voicings all over the guitar with just those 3 notes, A C and E.
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Quote by mdc
Haha no worries. Yeah it's just chord inversions. You can actually get over 100 different voicings all over the guitar with just those 3 notes, A C and E.

Is there any simple way to figure them all out? I know lots of random theory, some is useful and some never seems to be. Is there a pattern to follow or particular part of theory to learn for this?
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#14
Quote by The Daver
Is there any simple way to figure them all out? I know lots of random theory, some is useful and some never seems to be. Is there a pattern to follow or particular part of theory to learn for this?


I'd very much like to know more on making chords as well. Didn't start with theory till very recently..
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This is a cheap way of doing it, but you can get a picture such as:



And then structure the chords based on the position you want. Over the long run, you'll want to memorize their positions so that you don't need to refer to the picture to get your bearings. It should be mental, because you don't want to be dependent on a picture in the future
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Quote by The Daver
Is there any simple way to figure them all out? I know lots of random theory, some is useful and some never seems to be. Is there a pattern to follow or particular part of theory to learn for this?

Yeah. I mean I could tell you loads of things but it's easy for me cuz I have an overall perspective of how theory fits together to form a cohesive whole cuz, I've been studying for a long time.

I think maybe best to just have fun on the guitar, learn songs and come across new chords that way. Rather than letting theory get you down.

It's very hard teaching through a forum as well lol.

Incidentally, I'd bookmark this thread just for megano28's diagram. Why? Cuz I'd never dream of learning how to play an instrument if I didn't know where the notes were.

Of course, learning the notes is good, but is there any point if you don't know how to use them with music theory?

Which begs the question, just play by ear? Play what you feel? At this point you inevitably start sounding like some kinda hippie zen master yada yada.