alangton1997
Registered User
Join date: Nov 2012
523 IQ
#1
(Invalid img) Hey,
Just wondering what guitar would be suited for me. I play music from Folk to Punk and to Nu-metal. I have to decide between a semi-electric guitar or electric. If you see my profile picture that is what I am thinking of getting. It is an Ibanez AFJ85 Artcore Hollowbody Electric Guitar. I am looking for a classic 1930-1980 semi-electric guitar. I don't know if this is the right choice. Semi-electric or Electric?
The punk tone that I want is something of a Jack White tone and the metal tone that I am looking for is like Linkin Park's.
Please help.
Last edited by alangton1997 at Nov 2, 2012,
dannyalcatraz
Black Cherry Jello
Join date: Dec 2008
3,265 IQ
#2
The Artcores- as well as the Gretsch Electromatics and Epiphone Dots. & Casinos- offer a lot of quality for the price. They and similar guitars have been used in all of those genres.

But before the thread continues...

What is your budget?

New only or will you consider used?

What will you be playing the guitar through?
Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

Why, yes, I am a lawyer- thanks for asking!


alhaq369
It is very impotent to success a business.
alangton1997
Registered User
Join date: Nov 2012
523 IQ
#3
My budget is between $0 - $1250 for a new guitar.
I have a "Tanglewood Evolution" (semi-acoustic) and i play this through a "Megatone AC60R" acoustic amp. The pedal that I use with a "Livingstone Overdrive" pedal that I got for $30.
I hope that this is the information that you are looking for.
Thank you.
Jyrgen
Used Register
Join date: Jan 2010
2,069 IQ
#4
Quote by alangton1997
My budget is between $0 - $1250 for a new guitar.
I have a "Tanglewood Evolution" (semi-acoustic) and i play this through a "Megatone AC60R" acoustic amp. The pedal that I use with a "Livingstone Overdrive" pedal that I got for $30.
I hope that this is the information that you are looking for.
Thank you.

Forget the nu-metal and punk with that setup... what you really need is a new amp and a solid body electric guitar with humbuckers
nightwalker903
Registered User
Join date: Jul 2006
1,591 IQ
#5
You could use a hollow body for punk. Sure tim Armstrong does and can be used in rock music. Izzy straddlin used one quite often in guns n roses. I like the guitar he uses in the welcome to the jungle video but not sure what it is.

I wouldn't use it for metal though.

For flexibility a solid body would be better but it's entirely upto you.

That's why I like les Paul's, they have a good tone for punk, they are nice sounding when clean. They are good for rock music.
Although not ideal they can be used for metal, seen plenty of bands use them. Noticed matt from trivium is playing them again. In my opinion would be a good alternative to a hollow body if you want to play a variety of genres.

But go try both, play songs and riffs in different styles see what works for you.
Gear:

Gibson lpj
Epiphone Les Paul Standard
Epiphone Les Paul 1960's Tribute Plus
Schecter s-1
Marshall JCM900 100WATT HEAD
Fender mustang 1
Dunlop Crybaby
Danelectro Distortion
Tanglewood exotic electro acoustic
Westfield Bass
alangton1997
Registered User
Join date: Nov 2012
523 IQ
#6
You would actually be surprised at how much that livingstone overdrive pedal does to the tone of my acoustic. Then does anyone know what guitar jack white plays when he performs in open E tuning for songs like "Let's Build a Home" and "I fought Piranhas." Because he uses that guitar for garage punk. I am also thinking of buying a big muff pedal as well. And if I do get a new semi-electric or electric guitar, i will definitely buy a new amp.
Last edited by alangton1997 at Nov 2, 2012,
alangton1997
Registered User
Join date: Nov 2012
523 IQ
#7
I have just found out what guitar Jack White uses for those songs, it is a "harmony rocket" guitar and if anybody has this guitar please answer my first question and how much on average it would cost to buy a new one.
dannyalcatraz
Black Cherry Jello
Join date: Dec 2008
3,265 IQ
#8
I can't answer that.

However, back to the original question, look for a good used guitar in the $300-500 range, and spend the rest on a combo tube amp and you'll be able to nail the sound you're looking for.

For example, I have seen 4-5 Godin Velocity guitars ($900 new) go for half that online at GC this year- they have a bridge HB and a singlecoil in the middle and neck. The only downside is that they're tremolo guitars, which you probably won't need.

Some kind of LP-bodied guitar should be available in that price range as well.

And, as stated before, those Artcores and Epis would do just fine for anything short of metal.

On the other side of the equation, you should be able to snag a nice, smallish Fender, Peavey, Vox or Marshall in that range, esp. if you go used.
Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

Why, yes, I am a lawyer- thanks for asking!


alhaq369
It is very impotent to success a business.
Last edited by dannyalcatraz at Nov 2, 2012,
mutex77
Registered User
Join date: Jan 2011
163 IQ
#9
Id really try to nail down what type of sound you want. Metal can be noodley iron maiden or malmsteen (strats), 900lb sludge of sabbath or bad motorfinger soundgarden (sg's)....and punk is even more all over the place. You have the dead kennedys/minor threat lofi sounds that would work well with a nice single coil slicing sound, a rockabilly thing like rancid, a thicker almost metal sound like nofx...its really all over the place. And indie by definition is even more varied.

What guitar do you find comfortable? Ive played strats and ibanezes mostly so les pauls feel weird to me. But i recently played a Gibson explorer that felt like i was born with it. It doesnt matter if it sounds great if you find it uncomfortable.

With that budget you could get a strat, or an awesome used superstrat, and get a nice set of pickups for it. Its a strat so switching between singles and humbuckers isnt a big deal. Call the pickup manufacturers and tell em what you want (again, really define the sound you want, not just "punk") and theyll suggest some sets. Once you have the guitar and pickups then go trying out tube amps with your guitar.

$1250 will go quick. Even if your not comfortable buying used off craigslist id still be considering the used stuff at the local music stores.
dannyalcatraz
Black Cherry Jello
Join date: Dec 2008
3,265 IQ
#10
The Reverend Double Agent has a HB in the bridge and a P-90 in the neck, so it should cover a lot of sonic territory- again, covering everything but metal pretty nicely.

Something like a Fernandes Ravelle or Dragonfly should easily cover punk or metal, but might not do folk too well. Ditto the Malden Bad Karma.

OTOH, someone recently turned me on to Seymour Duncan's P-Rails, which, with some fancy-schmancy wiring can deliver HB, P-90 and singlecoil tones. Buy a guitar you like he look and feel of, and drop a set in...

http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/electric/humbucker/high-output/prails_hot/
Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

Why, yes, I am a lawyer- thanks for asking!


alhaq369
It is very impotent to success a business.
alangton1997
Registered User
Join date: Nov 2012
523 IQ
#11
Ok I appreciate all the help.
The punk tone that I am looking for is something like a Jack White tone(I realise that The White Stripes were not really a punk band but a good deal of there songs sound like it). The metal tone that I am looking for is like Linkin Park but I haven't seen any semi-electric guitar actually produce the amount of Distortion that they use.
Last edited by alangton1997 at Nov 2, 2012,
dannyalcatraz
Black Cherry Jello
Join date: Dec 2008
3,265 IQ
#12
Jack White famously uses Airlines (solid bodies) and that Harmony Rocket (a semihollow with tremolo). He also has an assortment of solid & semihollow Gretsches.

One of the modern guitars some people point out that can match the Airlines' tone is the Reverend Charger (2 P-90s), though I'd go with the Double Agent (HB & P-90) for greater tonal flexibility.

http://reverendguitars.com/reverend/guitars/bolt_on_series/charger_290.html
http://reverendguitars.com/reverend/guitars/bolt_on_series/double_agent_III.html

Some of Reverend's other- especially signature- models would work as well.

http://reverendguitars.com/reverend/guitars/signature_series.html


On the semihollow side...well, Gretsch is still making guitars, and the Ibanez Artcores and Semihollow Epis can get there as well. You might want to swap out the pickups for some TV Jones or something similarly "retro", though.

The metal distortion you're looking for is more about the amps and pedals, not the guitar, though some hot pickups don't hurt. But there are hard rock & metal guitarists who do use semihollows & hollowbodies, like Billy Duffy and his infamous Gretsch White Falcons, Alex Lifeson, Paul Gilbert, Wes Borland, Ben Burnley, Troy Van Leeuwen and even guys in Mastodon and Daath.

(It ain't common though, because it introduces new challenges, like controlling excessive feedback.)
Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

Why, yes, I am a lawyer- thanks for asking!


alhaq369
It is very impotent to success a business.
Last edited by dannyalcatraz at Nov 2, 2012,