STIRMling
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Alright guys, so I have a question about guitar tone.

I am really in to indie/alt rock, that's mostly all I listen to (Pixies, Cage the Elephant, Pavement, Modest Mouse, Nirvana, Mudhoney etc.)

I really like the jangly, surfy tones that most of these guys get, so I really would like to do that thing.

I also cannot resist the classic rock, roaring guitar sound (AC/DC, Zeppelin, Clapton etc.) and would love an axe that can do that.

What I am looking for is a guitar to do both! Maybe a jazzmaster reissue? Maybe evan a strat could do the trick? I don't know.

My budget is around $600-800 but anything below that is preferred
I live in Southern Oregon, USA
I listen to the bands listed at the top
I currently am playing through a Fender Super-Champ XD, but that will likely be upgraded to a Fender Hot Rod Deville or Blues Junior fairly soon
I only use one pedal, a Z.Vex vextron Mastotron.

Thanks guys!!!!

EDIT: I do not care new or used.
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Obviously a Fender Strat, maybe a Jaguar/Jazzmaster. Just try out every Fender model in that price range and see which one suits you best.
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traynor ycv40/50 might be better for those tones than the fenders- cleans might not be just as nice but the od channel is a lot better

guitar is tricky- maybe an HSS superstrat? you're gonna have some compromise, it all depends on which tones you're more willing to compromise on...
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Don't rule out a telecaster too, especially look for 72 deluxe reissues - a bit fatter sound but still jangly... Squier vintage modified or vintage vibe (or whatever the hell they're called) actually have some pretty killer stuff going on, especially for the price.
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Quote by kolenik
Obviously a Fender Strat, maybe a Jaguar/Jazzmaster. Just try out every Fender model in that price range and see which one suits you best.


+1 on the Jag or Strat
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came to suggest a 72 tele. awesome guitars and will do all that nicely
especially with dimebuckers...

also, obligatory jaguar suggestion.
maybe look for something with p90s even?
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I suggest upgrading to an AC30.

Otherwise I can get that tone easy with my strat and AC30. A HSS Strat might be better suited for you though.
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72' Telecaster get's my vote too, a Mustang or a Jaguar too. Some guys here would kill me but even a Danelectro Hornet.

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You definitely don't need humbuckers for any of those sounds. Back when I had an Orange, my Tele pumped ALL of those genres out better than my SG did.

Any offset Fender guitar or any Tele will do all of that nicely. Can't go wrong with a basic strat (I really recommend SSS though, I've never liked humbuckers in strats but that's just me).

Like a few people have said, give the AC30 a spin, Fender amps are great and they'll do some of that stuff, but the Vox will really excel at everything you listed above.
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I should post:
I currently have a squier classic vibe tele and have replaced the neck pickup with a humbucker. I like the guitar, but it's just not doing what I want it to. That may be my amp though, im just not sure.
I have played one of the squier surf strats with those lipstick pickups. I really liked it, but I didn't get to play it for all too long. Anyone here tried one out?

Also, I really like mustang and jguars/jazzmasters. Which ones should I look into?
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Quote by STIRMling
I should post:
I currently have a squier classic vibe tele and have replaced the neck pickup with a humbucker. I like the guitar, but it's just not doing what I want it to. That may be my amp though, im just not sure.
I have played one of the squier surf strats with those lipstick pickups. I really liked it, but I didn't get to play it for all too long. Anyone here tried one out?

Also, I really like mustang and jguars/jazzmasters. Which ones should I look into?

Bring your tele to the store and plug into an AC30 and see what happens!

If you're looking into the offset Fenders, the jazzmaster is probably going to get you the sound in your head. Kind of hollow sounding, but still a bit glassy. Sounds great when gritty, and likes fuzz. Don't get one with humbuckers, though. Huge waste.
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If he wants AC/DC and Zeppelin he would want humbuckers, that's my opinion.

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If he wants AC/DC and Zeppelin he would want humbuckers, that's my opinion.


I'm with you on that. I'm thinking an HSS would be the best option. He can use the bridge for his classic rock tones and his neck pup or center pup for his jangly, sparkly cleans.

An AC30 is definitely an amp you should look at. That's the first thing I thought of when reading your OP.
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Wow, everyone thinks I should go fro an AC30 haha. I will check one out when I can get to a guitar center. I'm not really sure what model it was, but my friend had a vox tube combo amp that he brought over one time. I tried it out and really hated it. It was really dark sounding, and like no volume to it. It was the same wattage as mine (15) too. But maybe that wasn't an AC30. I think I'm gonna try out some jazzmasters. One more question though, what is the real difference between a jazzmaster and a jaguar? I have heard a lot of side to side comparisons of them with people just playing them, and usually I like the jag better. But why?
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Oh, also. Can someone link me a video of an AC30 demo that they think is really representative of the style? I am trying to look one up but I am on my mobile so internet is at a snails pace
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You should also check out a Fender Supersonic 22, great drive ch.

What do you have in the bridge of your tele?

I have a Tele that was S/H but I put a Duncan JBJr in the bridge and coiltaped it and it does Punk/Metal great and a great Nirvanaish-Soundgarden tone when I set my amp for that.
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the guy from Cage the Elephant uses a Supersonic. Ive been trying to try one out, but my store never has any fenders . Theyre really trying to push acoustic amps right now, which I hate
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Try something with good p90s. I'm a big fan of a good indie/classic rock tone myself and I get it with a Les Paul Special with gfs p90s and an Egnater Rebel.
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Amp? Egnater Tweaker 15-watt head plugged into any 112 cab - the head's about the size of a lunch box, very portable, loud, EXCELLENT cleans with a bunch of different toggle options to get a Fender-ish twang, a Vox-style jangle, what have you. It can also get mean and nasty if you set it up that way - very versatile amp that is very good at several very different sounds.

Guitar? Check out the Epiphone Casino, Epiphone Wildkat, or the Fender Mustang Pawnshop Special. The Squier "surf Strat" is really cool, too, and I've heard great things about the Squier J Mascis Jazzmaster.
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TS. The difference between a jaguar and a jazzmaster have a few key differences. A Jaguar has a shorter 24" scale, and a jazzmaster has a 25.5" scale. A jaguar also has a more traditional single coil whereas a jazzmaster will typically have a wider coiled single coil which sounds closer to a p90 by my ears, though this can vary from model to model.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcrgNYjwMTM
Pro guitar shop does good videos and it has a wide range of guitars. This is pretty indicative of an aAC30's tone.
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came to suggest a 72 tele. awesome guitars and will do all that nicely
especially with dimebuckers...


i dunno about dimebuckers, but i did the 250K to 500K volume pot mod on a '72 RI and it was totally worth it. opened up the guitar quite well.
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Thanks guys!! I checked out a demo of a classic player jazzmaster special, and I really liked the tone. Very jangly. I have really big hands, but I would still prefer a shorter scale neck. I also played a squier surf strat that I really liked. And I have been looking at the pawn shop mustang fro awhile. I think it's down to those three guitars. And after further research, I have seen that many of the bands I listen to use an AC30, so I will deffinitely be seriously looking into one of those, maybe even before I buy the guitar
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Pawn Shop mustang rlz! I have GAS for one!

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They look sooooooo sexy!!!!! I hsve been looking at them for awhile, but now I may be talking myself into the strat. Then again...
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get a Strat or a Tele
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I am thinking that it will most likely be the lipstick surf strat. The only thing is, should I really be passing up several $600-900 fender guitars for a funky $300 squier guitar?
Although, they did release an american standard version. maybe that will go down in price...