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I've been wanting to get a delay pedal for my pedalboard, and want an analog one, not only for the warmer sound on the repeats, but more importantly for the sounds that can be created by changing the repeat time as they are going on. I don't know the name for this, but can be heard in Yngwie Malmsteen's Trilogy Suite Op. 5.

I like the look of the MXR Carbon Copy, as I've seen it done with this pedal, but was looking for other suggestions. Looked into TC Electronic too, but not sure if their Flashback is capable of what I'm after. Stereo capabilities are not a need as mono is fine for my setup, though it wouldn't do any harm, and 9V DC power is definitely preferred.

Cheers for any help with suggestions and the sorts
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will it be in an effects loop? i have a tonerider which is pretty nice for £45, but it really seems to hate being in a loop (or at least my engl's loop). the mooer ana echo is meant to be quite nice, too, but to get the best price (~£30) you have to order from china.

no real experience with those dearer ones but i'm guessing that's a judgement call.
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Cool! Looking into these now. Yeah it will be in the effects loop, that's another essential I suppose, that it works great in there. I should've probably added that budget isn't a problem for me. I don't have a top budget to work on, but I'm not looking for a lot of special things in the delay, so I don't expect to be paying a heck of a lot (though I know the MXR is quite expensive haha)
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ah right, yeah probably avoid the tonerider one then. actually i seem to remember asking matt (who got one) how his mooer ana echo worked in the loop, but i forgot what he said. so maybe do a search on that, too
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Quote by Lavatain
I like the look of the MXR Carbon Copy, as I've seen it done with this pedal, but was looking for other suggestions.
Cheers for any help with suggestions and the sorts



So, you'd buy a pedal based on the way it looks? Is that what I'm hearing here?
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So, you'd buy a pedal based on the way it looks? Is that what I'm hearing here?

uhh, did you read the part after that? he said that he's seen what he wants done with this pedal. it's an expression.
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the dd-7 is a digital delay, but it has an analog setting that sounds pretty warm. the delay definitely does the 'morphing' effect when you change the delay time as well. might be more than your budget can handle, but i can speak for that pedal.
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uhh, did you read the part after that? he said that he's seen what he wants done with this pedal. it's an expression.


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So, you'd buy a pedal based on the way it looks? Is that what I'm hearing here?

I buy all my pedals based on looks!

TS, if you like the carbon copy, why not get the carbon copy? There's not much around its price point that does what it does well. Do you have a max budget at all?
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but you're trying to find a delay on which it is easy to change the delay time while playing, right? If so, look at anything with a jack for an expression pedal. I know the EHX memory boy is one of many pedals that lets you do this.
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that sentence is horribly offensive in my culture and i demand a retraction.
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that sentence is horribly offensive in my culture and i demand a retraction.

haha, he said you're from a different planet altogether.
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Since budget doesn't matter get the Delay Lama+ (must be the "plus" version) It has infinite repeats on tap and an expression pedal input to be able to change the delay timer while playing. It's kinda pricey (at 350 euros at Thomann)

True analog goodness. Sometimes I have it turned on with the delay level set almost to zero cause it adds warmth to my tone in whatever setting (amp-wise).

edit: its from Jam pedals.
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Quote by gumbilicious
the dd-7 is a digital delay, but it has an analog setting that sounds pretty warm. the delay definitely does the 'morphing' effect when you change the delay time as well. might be more than your budget can handle, but i can speak for that pedal.

I wasn't aware the DD-7 could do that, I do already have Boss pedals and like them, but thought the DD-7 was purely digital and wouldn't be able to replicate the delay time "morphing" effect.

Quote by Deledhel
Since budget doesn't matter get the Delay Lama+ (must be the "plus" version) It has infinite repeats on tap and an expression pedal input to be able to change the delay timer while playing. It's kinda pricey (at 350 euros at Thomann)

True analog goodness. Sometimes I have it turned on with the delay level set almost to zero cause it adds warmth to my tone in whatever setting (amp-wise).

edit: its from Jam pedals.

Cheers for the suggestion there, looks great! Though budget isn't a huge problem, I am looking to spend as little as possible to get what I'm after, but will keep that one in mind!
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carbon copy with repeats all the way down sounds really good too. that light is so ****ing bright though...
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I had a chance to choose between a Carbon Copy and a Lovepedal GEN5 Echo in an A/B test. Chose the latter. Very similar to MXR, but has a volume boost feature, and an adjustable knob for modualtion instead of a button.
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The CC has the adjustable knob for modulation inside. Now, another suggestion, if you have the extra cash get a Malekko Ekko, it's a hell of a nice analog delay.

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Gonna check out the above two suggestions ^
Though has anyone got any more info on the DD-7's analog mode for the "morphing" effects or whatever that effect is called that I know true analog delays to be able to reproduce. I couldn't find any videos showing this, maybe because I don't know the proper term for it, but if anyone knows of any, that'd be great!
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I know there are lots of digital delays that can do analog sounds quite good! If you want a really bigger delay then the Digitech Timebender worths a look, it's amazing!

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Quote by Lavatain
I wasn't aware the DD-7 could do that, I do already have Boss pedals and like them, but thought the DD-7 was purely digital and wouldn't be able to replicate the delay time "morphing" effect.


the digital world does this my including filters on the repeat signals, cutting out high end. the 'morphing' effect i talk about is the 'swirly' kinda sounds you get by adjusting reverb time.

an extra bonus is the the DD-7 can also use an expression pedal for control any parameter in real time... meaning you can 'move' the repeat time knob without touching the pedal.

i'll see if i can do a demo for ya so you can hear it.
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Quote by terribleguitar
I had a chance to choose between a Carbon Copy and a Lovepedal GEN5 Echo in an A/B test. Chose the latter. Very similar to MXR, but has a volume boost feature, and an adjustable knob for modualtion instead of a button.


same here. don't really use the modulation feature but it's cool to have just in case.
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The EHX memory boy is good for the time change/warping effect. It has an input for an expression pedal that controls the delay time. My ears tell me it's not as clear as the carbon copy, but that could just be me. Either way, definitely worth checking out since it's $25 cheaper. Or, for another 40$, you could grab a memory boy deluxe, with tap tempo.
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Others you can consider:

VFE Blueprint Delay - no exp jack
Diamond Memory Lane 2 - a little pricey
Line 6 DL4 - digital
JHS Panther - a little pricey
Pigtronix PHI Echolution - no exp jack / analog-digital hybrid
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