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#41
Quote by AeolianWolf
i have done this, and it is truly a great feeling. and if i can do it, anyone can.

i'm kind of tipsy ATM, so i'm in a mushy mood lol. but seriously, anybody can do what i do, as long as they have the discipline and are willing to put in the effort.

you can do it man.

I know you're hammered, but no you haven't.
#42
Quote by AeolianWolf
i have done this, and it is truly a great feeling. and if i can do it, anyone can.

i'm kind of tipsy ATM, so i'm in a mushy mood lol. but seriously, anybody can do what i do, as long as they have the discipline and are willing to put in the effort.

you can do it man.

I dunno man, 100% of listeners are never going to agree. I always thought if you could get 3 out of 4 people to really dig it then you're doing it right.
#43
Quote by :-D
to be honest i'd like to create something that someone (anyone, literally one person would be fine) could listen to and really enjoy

that's it.

Just make a song that consists of shitty djent breakdowns and all the scene feggits will love you. elitists will hate you though
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#44
Quote by amonamarthmetal
Just make a song that consists of shitty djent breakdowns and all the scene feggits will love you. elitists will hate you though


in like 3 years you're gonna look back and be like 'wow no way i was such a dumbass metalhead'

then we'll show you posts like these

and you'll drink a bunch of draino
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#45
Quote by Hail
in like 3 years you're gonna look back and be like 'wow no way i was such a dumbass metalhead'

then we'll show you posts like these

and you'll drink a bunch of draino

No I won't. And no, I won't.
Gear:
Dean RC7X (Bareknuckle Coldsweat pickups)
Ibanez Rg2570Z (Bareknuckle Juggernaughts)
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Schecter Hellraiser Hybrid 7 String
Engl Powerball II
Orange PPC412
Line 6 Pod HD500X
#46
Quote by Hail
in like 3 years you're gonna look back and be like 'wow no way i was such a dumbass metalhead'

then we'll show you posts like these

and you'll drink a bunch of draino


Stop hatin' on metal you bastard.
#47
Quote by griffRG7321
Stop hatin' on metal you bastard.

white devil, black metal

i hate metalheads with a passion. most genre's are fine, but the fans as a whole are just god awful. especially when they mix up the deathcore and djent crowds because they don't know what they're talking about.
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#48
Quote by Hail
white devil, black metal

i hate metalheads with a passion. most genre's are fine, but the fans as a whole are just god awful. especially when they mix up the deathcore and djent crowds because they don't know what they're talking about.


Horrible generalization, but it's true of a lot of metalheads I suppose.

sort of on topic, this week has been good for gigs, saw:

Architects (with the Acacia Strain and Bury tomorrow)
Parkway Drive (with Emmure)

Needless to say I'm quite bruised
#49
Quote by griffRG7321
Horrible generalization, but it's true of a lot of metalheads I suppose.

sort of on topic, this week has been good for gigs, saw:

Architects (with the Acacia Strain and Bury tomorrow)
Parkway Drive (with Emmure)

Needless to say I'm quite bruised

but those aren't metal silly
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#51
Don't know, I've more or less given up.
But boys will be boys and girls have those eyes
that'll cut you to ribbons, sometimes
and all you can do is just wait by the moon
and bleed if it's what she says you ought to do
#52
Quote by jazz_rock_feel
I know you're hammered, but no you haven't.


you're funny.

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I dunno man, 100% of listeners are never going to agree. I always thought if you could get 3 out of 4 people to really dig it then you're doing it right.


agreed. where did anyone say anything about 100%?
Anfangen ist leicht, Beharren eine Kunst.
#53
Quote by :-D
to be honest i'd like to create something that someone (anyone, literally one person would be fine) could listen to and really enjoy

that's it.


You know what, I used to have the exact same goal. Perhaps the wording was a little different, that I could write something that will be "remembered". And then it was pointed out to me that I'd already accomplished this goal.

About 10 years ago now (geez, I'm sounding old hahah) my mum wrote a song about my home town Mallacoota, and I was hungover and made a parody of it. It was fleshed out and my mates and I thought it was very funny, chanting the song through the streets while walking to the pub, then chanting it more in the pub.

People started joining in. They actually started requesting the song and everybody would chant. Even now people ask "are you the guy that wrote that song?" like it's some sort of urban legend.

I uploaded it to youtube a number of years ago http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0o7ZE3yJkY , and as of today the view count stands at 2,236 views, which is a little over twice the population of that town.

So one day I say "I want to write something that's remembered" and my brother goes, "dude, you've already done it!" (pointing out this song). I initially thought it was silly, because the song is a novelty song and was written in about 5 minutes, however over time I've come to appreciate that the song has become bigger than me, and is a school yard chant in my home town, probably one that will last a long time.

So yes, that's a little story from the book of Alan.
And no, Guitar Hero will not help. Even on expert. Really.
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#54
^ i think i've heard that story before. man, i would love to be able to pull that off in NYC...
Anfangen ist leicht, Beharren eine Kunst.
#55
^^ , I can't make out many of the words in that song, but that's cool because if I shouted about Glesga you wouldn't have a clue what I was saying either.
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^ i think i've heard that story before. man, i would love to be able to pull that off in NYC...

Shame NYC has a population slightly over 2,236...
But boys will be boys and girls have those eyes
that'll cut you to ribbons, sometimes
and all you can do is just wait by the moon
and bleed if it's what she says you ought to do
#56
Quote by AeolianWolf
you're funny.


agreed. where did anyone say anything about 100%?

Holy shit, I totally read the post you quoted as "Write a song everyone can enjoy."

The other way makes way more sense.
#57
Being able to play whats in my head, and improvise on it in the best way possible to create even better songs
#58
I guess my goal is to be in a band playing songs people like, having fun doing it and getting paid, and to do this a few times a month preferably. It's hardly unrealistic, but I'm dot doing anything currently to realise this goal.
But boys will be boys and girls have those eyes
that'll cut you to ribbons, sometimes
and all you can do is just wait by the moon
and bleed if it's what she says you ought to do
#59
Just to add a bit more;

It's great to have goals, but it's another thing to take steps to accomplish them. I'm already doing session stuff on the side, and had a really great unpracticed gig last night which will hopefully lead to more referrals.

But the only way I got to this point is by seeking out opportunities, and taking nearly everything that was offered to me.

It personally astounds me that there are so many musicians out there who will say "I want to be the greatest guitarist alive, playing stadiums etc", but if you ask them whether they'd play with Justin Bieber, they'd go nooooooooo he's gay.

So here's a part of the Justin Bieber show:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5S8t55cKkk

And that is great. And it looks like a crapload of fun.

So the guys then say "yeah, well I guess if I was offered to do that, I might do that".

But the issue is that they'd never get offered to do that. When they were in x cover band back in smalltown they refused to learn certain songs because they were too "gay" or easy. Somebody else learnt them, and started backing small pop artists around the place, and now they're playing Madison Square Garden whilst Mr "it's too gay" is still back home complaining about the guys on TV.

So I guess that's a bit of a rant, but my main point is that the main thing that holds musicians back is a self-wanking attitude, and inability to learn songs that they wouldn't listen to otherwise.

And I guess that's why I get a lot of work, I'm known as someone who takes songs no questions asked, and learns the crap out of them. It's not even relevant to me whether I like the song or not, I just take it apart and learn it. And then when I do get the odd semi-famous dude whom I'm meeting on the night, they love it, because that's how the song goes and they can perform better, whilst also being surprised that I know the parts (of course along with my awesome hand-picked band mates).

Then the question comes "how could I enjoy it?", well playing with other people is fun. You learn to derive joy simply from executing a song perfectly rather than the content of the song. Sometimes I do have an actual dislike for the material (Wolfmother immediately comes to mind), but that just forces me to sit down with it longer, a personal guitar challenge.

I have to tie this back into the thread somehow.

I encourage all of you to make a goal of learning to derive joy from the act of playing, rather than your personal preference to a song. Pick a really annoying song from the Top 40 and learn it. Play with it enough times to get over the whole shock of "I'm playing x artist" and think of it simply as another song. I think you'll find yourself enjoying playing with the song as a result.

Accomplishing this goal a big step forward for a musician, and absolutely essential if you want to work as a professional musician in the future, part time or full time.

Of course another argument is whether you refuse to do any jobs that you dislike at your other job"

Work at Maccas and refuse to make a McChicken because Big Macs are better? Refused to sell the gluten free stuff at you checkout supermarket job because it tastes like crap?
Or maybe even refused to do the filing that your boss asked you do to because it's just not your style?

What happens if you do this, you get fired (or not hired if they get clued on in the interview). So why would you do this in a band, if you're claiming to be professional?
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#60
If I had the opportunity to tour with bieber id take it. Then on the last tour date id smash all the instruments and take my guitar and smash it over bieber's head
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Schecter KM-6
Schecter Hellraiser Hybrid 7 String
Engl Powerball II
Orange PPC412
Line 6 Pod HD500X
#61
I guess to play with Bieber (does he even deserve the capital letter?) you would have to able to boring stuff, and only think about the money. Its a thing i did for a few times, and after a few times its not fun anymore. And gosh i hope one day mr bieber gets a guitar on his bieberweener
#62
Quote by B&J
I guess to play with Bieber (does he even deserve the capital letter?) you would have to able to boring stuff, and only think about the money. Its a thing i did for a few times, and after a few times its not fun anymore. And gosh i hope one day mr bieber gets a guitar on his bieberweener

I think to play with Bieber you would have to be able to do stuff as interesting as playing with just about anybody else. His music has rhythm and chords, and you gotta play with the band in a way that fits and sounds good, which is the same that any other singer asks.
But boys will be boys and girls have those eyes
that'll cut you to ribbons, sometimes
and all you can do is just wait by the moon
and bleed if it's what she says you ought to do
#63
As a musical moment, I'd like to go on a G3 with Joe Satriani and Andy Timmons, and that at the end Joe said: "You did great kid". Obviously for that I need over the top skills, a ton of knowledge, my own voice and creativity.
#64
Quote by AeolianWolf
i have done this, and it is truly a great feeling. and if i can do it, anyone can.

i'm kind of tipsy ATM, so i'm in a mushy mood lol. but seriously, anybody can do what i do, as long as they have the discipline and are willing to put in the effort.

you can do it man.

i stopped writing music, so it's a goal that'll pick itself up if i ever create something and like it - i'd still like to do it but lost all motivation to do so, if that's even logically possible

to be honest i don't know how i'd ever know, since i hate playing guitar in front of people and i hate showing people music i've written since it's generally friends/family and **** them, they're just going to tell me the music is good and i could do without whatever bullshit opinions i'm going to be fed

maybe i won't do it, maybe i've already done it, maybe i'm ****ed in the head, who knows

****
#66
Quote by :-D
i stopped writing music, so it's a goal that'll pick itself up if i ever create something and like it - i'd still like to do it but lost all motivation to do so, if that's even logically possible

to be honest i don't know how i'd ever know, since i hate playing guitar in front of people and i hate showing people music i've written since it's generally friends/family and **** them, they're just going to tell me the music is good and i could do without whatever bullshit opinions i'm going to be fed

maybe i won't do it, maybe i've already done it, maybe i'm ****ed in the head, who knows

****


as far as writing music is concerned, i take the same approach to writing music that i do for cooking. i do it for myself, and anyone who likes it is welcome to take part in it.

sometimes i'll go crazy. second movement, first string quartet -- i wrote a sequence modulating through the circle of fifths - at some point, it was in every major key. and yet i just wrote a song today that ends up being about 6 minutes long, and the damn thing has three chords with small rhythmic variations in 5/4. simple melodies, powerful lyrics. niiiice and easy.

i write for me. i cook for me. in fact i think i'm about to go do the latter right now. chicken and broccoli over pasta in a cheddar cheese sauce. awesome.

i say do it, smiley. aside from the really gay owl stuff you've got your head screwed on pretty damn straight. use that shit.

peace.

oh, and i ****ing love john butler. i remember hearing ocean when i had only played guitar for 6 months. i almost gave up. almost.
Anfangen ist leicht, Beharren eine Kunst.
#67
Quote by AeolianWolf
as far as writing music is concerned, i take the same approach to writing music that i do for cooking.


me too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m5CIcbytfM

oh, and i ****ing love john butler. i remember hearing ocean when i had only played guitar for 6 months. i almost gave up. almost.


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#68
Great post, Alan
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It's the same as all other harmony. Surround yourself with skulls and candles if it helps.
#69
Hi Barricade,
My ultimate musical goals as a guitarist is to make lots of immortal tunes which rest of the world remember. My favorite guitarist is Eric Clapton and I am impressed with his amazing talent to create music and sound out of this world.
#70
My goal is to put together a quartet or quintet and perform classical pieces on electric guitars and basses, but without going all Malmsteen with them and over-improvising things or showing off. Don't get me wrong, I love the blues, but I also love listening to Vivaldi and imagining a pair of trumpets playing in a round of sorts, and imagining them as guitars.

Someday even composing classical sort of pieces expressly for electric guitar and bass is something I'd like to do as well.
#71
To be able to play like Satriani, Sfogli and Minette!!

Awesomely melodic, great voicing and badassly technical!!
#72
Hi Iam 60 and have played since 12, at the moment I would just love to meet people my age here in Adelaide S Australia, to play and jam may be even a band,Where have all the oldies gone all the people I played wiyh in my early years
#73
Quote by mike60
Hi Iam 60 and have played since 12, at the moment I would just love to meet people my age here in Adelaide S Australia, to play and jam may be even a band,Where have all the oldies gone all the people I played wiyh in my early years

Theyre out there man.... try the notice board at the local music shop...

I was thinking recently...given that most 60's flowerchildren are now in their 60's and 70's.... rock and roll isnt about rebellion any more...its about party.... all ages groups have now grown up with rock and roll.... it really opens the door for bands of any age to put stuff out....
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#74
I want to be a technical god like John Petrucci but I don't practice 6 hours a day so that won't ever happen...

nah but really I just want to be able to improv like a beast and really get my own style and guitar tone and hopefully record an album without being a perfectionist
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