#1


Any of you guys ever seen this movie "Pride"? I rented it recently. It's about the first all black swim team, and the difficulties that had to go through being the first all black swim team. I dunno guys... I mean, let me ask you a question: how many of these white people are evil movies are they gonna make? It's like, it's all the way down to swimming now... I'm frankly starting to run out of white guilt.

I mean it was fine back like 20-25 years ago. You know, those movies, they started off with movies like Roots, when white guilt was at an all time high, and I could barely even watch that shit... I was like "Jesus I got it, my ancestors are evil, okay? please turn the channel, jesus... they still hittin' em? ****, turn the channel! This on all week?! ****, turn the channel!"

Then in the 80s there was like a football movie, then Cuba Gooding Jr did one where he wanted to be a scubadiver or some shit, and there's been countless others..

And now, it's allll the way down to swimming, and I gotta admit, I don't think I give a fuck.

Anyway, discuss.
#4
I know right? Being white is so hard. I hate when people remind me of my privilege.
#5
Quote by due 07
I know right? Being white is so hard. I hate when people remind me of my privilege.


I know you're being facetious, but why should anyone feel guilt about their privilege, if it is beyond their control?
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I know you're being facetious, but why should anyone feel guilt about their privilege, if it is beyond their control?


Not a question of guilt, that "white guilt" phrase is a strawman at best. The point is to be aware of it.
#7
-Sees movies about obstacles black people had overcome in the face of racism and prejudice

-"Wah! Why do people think whites are evil!? Wah!"

Way to miss the point.
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-Sees movies about obstacles black people had overcome in the face of racism and prejudice

-"Wah! Why do people think whites are evil!? Wah!"

Way to miss the point.


A vainy-foreheaded white guy is the main antagonist of the movie.
#9
Why should you feel guilty in the first place?
The movies are about their accomplishments, not you.
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#10
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A vainy-foreheaded white guy is the main antagonist of the movie.

So? It's a movie. They have to take social ideas and dynamics and make it accessible to a lot of people. Summing things up within an antagonist is one way of doing that.

These movies aren't about whites anyway. They're about blacks overcoming adversity. Which happens to be racist white people and the system they have in place.
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#11
There are black swim teams? Why would you make that movie? I get football and basketball, because black people are actually good at those. Swimming is still a white people sport, just look at the olympics. A bunch of country club boys and like one asian dude. It can't be a movie about them succeeding, because there aren't successful black swimmers.

/racism based on the facts of the situation.
#13
oh boy, this is gonna be a good thread where positive discussions happen and people learn things.

I can't wait.
#14
Sickface, you're just not very good at watching movies.
Racist white people in movies are are not metaphors for all white people, and if you think that's the case, you miiight just be an easily offended racist.
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Quote by TooktheAtrain
I know you're being facetious, but why should anyone feel guilt about their privilege, if it is beyond their control?

I never said anyone should feel guilt about their privilege, now did I.

Although one is prolly a piece of shit if they don't lament the exclusivity of their privilege.
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-Sees movies about obstacles black people had overcome in the face of racism and prejudice

-"Wah! Why do people think whites are evil!? Wah!"

Way to miss the point.

This.

Or they could alter history and make the slave owners in Roots Chinese guys. Just so OP feels better.
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#18
Movies suck, (unless they suck).

Porn

But in general, for his films, Mel Gibson can suck my...
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Although one is prolly a piece of shit if they don't lament the exclusivity of their privilege.

What.
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#21
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Too much weed intake, man.

I mean holy fuck.



I guess this might require some more explaining.

Braveheart (1995)
The Patriot (2000)...

And then things I didn't see but heard about after The Patriot (2000) anyway...
Mel Gibson's trouble.
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#22
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Who's even a white person anymore?




Being of mixed ethnic backgrounds, I get the best and worst of both worlds. As for this "white guilt" business, sucks to be you guys
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I guess this might require some more explaining.

Braveheart (1995)
The Patriot (2000)...

And then things I didn't see but heard about anyway...
Mel Gibson's trouble.


No, I get what you were saying, and my point stands. I mean you could barely finish your train of thought two or three times in one post, man (I'll say "porn" can be a complete thought, fine).
#24
I'm tired of people saying white people should be ashamed. Some of the greatest men in history were white.

White and Proud!
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I'm tired of people saying white people should be ashamed. Some of the greatest men in history were white.

White and Proud!


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No, I get what you were saying, and my point stands. I mean you could barely finish your train of thought two or three times in one post, man (I'll say "porn" can be a complete thought, fine).

Oh. What?

No... I didn't want to say anything else than what I wrote. For all your Homos out there (1love though), I could have meant Mel Gibson can suck my... Something that isn't Gay.
My mind is so perverted and dirty, that; I can't even think of an example of something that wouldn't sound 'wrong' there right now, but... I certerinaly didn't want to finish that suggestion... Too graphic.
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look nigga, if you're chillin with 5 bros and 2 hos, you're gonna wanna pay attention to all of em equally. not moon over the hos forever and laugh at every shitty thing they say and just stare at them all night, like some of my mates do.
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Oh. What?

No... I didn't want to say anything else than what I wrote. For all your Homos out there (1love though), I could have meant Mel Gibson can suck my... Something that isn't Gay.
My mind is so perverted and dirty, that; I can't even think of an example of something that wouldn't sound 'wrong' there right now, but... I certerinaly didn't want to finish that suggestion... Too graphic.

Are you afraid of saying "dick?" And what's with the "1 love?"
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#28
Lol, if you don't like it don't watch it. Sorry you are indifferent to people overcoming obstacles.
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I'm tired of people saying white people should be ashamed. Some of the greatest men in history were white.

White and Proud!

Who says that? We know that white people have "the most famous" history so other races try to motivate people who may feel they can't be great because people in there area are racists towards them.
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#29
Quote by due 07
I never said anyone should feel guilt about their privilege, now did I.

Although one is prolly a piece of shit if they don't lament the exclusivity of their privilege.


No, you didn't. I just felt it was implied, I'm willing to admit I might be perceptually biased to see that attitude, however I have seen a few people advocate guilt for one's characteristics, some of which we're in control of, others not.

Definitely agree with the second part.
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I was referring to his use of it after saying "Homos."
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#32
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I was referring to his use of it after saying "Homos."


I don't know, 90% of the shit he says sounds like a fucking Carmen San Diego puzzle recorded backwards in Swahili.
#33
Yo dog, y u feel guilt tho? You a bad mamma jamma?
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#34
You know what movie's really good though? Glory
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#35
Quote by Pagan_Poetry
No, I get what you were saying, and my point stands. I mean you could barely finish your train of thought two or three times in one post, man (I'll say "porn" can be a complete thought, fine).

it made sense. too much spice for pagsie cant comprehend
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You know what movie's really good though? Glory

Hell yeah. Morgan Freeman and Ferris Bueller lol Who else do you need for an epic end battle scene.
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#37
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it made sense. too much spice for pagsie cant comprehend


I know it made sense. The point I'm getting at is that he couldn't finish his own thoughts in his post.
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I know it made sense. The point I'm getting at is that he couldn't finish his own thoughts in his post.

he wrote all he needed. hes just being economical. i bet youd vote for obama.