xCaLeBx1225
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So I do alot of horse trading, went from trading an epiphone sheraton II to an old dirt peavey classic 50 4/10, to this bad boy, A Peavey Ranger 2/12. I like it. 4 6l6's with 4 12ax7's, has a really good rock crunch, and can also get super clean and stay clean. Lots of headroom. This thing sounds very similar to a twin, but with actual legitimate overdrive Channel. Been playing it and loving it, but I got it in a condition of it has 4 new looking nice JJ 12ax7's but the 6l6's are mismatched, 2 groove tubes and 2 sovteks, so after a lot of hot and heavy cranked playing one tube finally gave out (they were old, like OLD old) and I blew my F2A fuse. So new 6l6's are needed (I already have a fuse)....any suggestions for 6l6's? Anyways yay NAD for me. pics later....of it taken apart
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PRS Semi-Hollow Custom SE

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Peavey Ranger 2x12 Twin Killer


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SED =C= if you can afford them, excelent tubes.

JJ is always worth a shot.
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xCaLeBx1225
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Haha sadly its already dismantled, but you can easily see the head/cab etc when I post pics tonight. I can't wait to hear how it sounds with new tubes considering it sounded decent with old crappy ones. I must say it sounded far better than a twin to my ears (messed with a twin for a month or two, didn't suit my fancy) this peavey ranger may shape up to be a good blues amp, with OD or such thrown in front
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PRS Semi-Hollow Custom SE

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Peavey Ranger 2x12 Twin Killer


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Meh. Looks like an SE to me.
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#6
Peavey Ranger 212?

Never heard of it. Congratz. FYI - you'll need your pics or a clip soon per the rules. Get some pics of the insides while you are in there. Normally I would suggest JJs for tubes but maybe contact Doug at www.dougstubes.com as well. He may have some other ideas. So how is the amp voiced? Like a Fender Twin?


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xCaLeBx1225
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Pics will be up for sure by 11:30 pm (EST), Just wanted to post while I'm at work, but pics will come very soon!

Yes it's voiced very much like a fender twin. I like the sound of this amp far more than the classic 50 4/10 I traded for it. This amp is like a fender twin, with a distortion that can get deep and throaty, but also gets smooth if needed, just all depends on the pre/post tweaking. Also the clean headroom on this thing is astounding. I can't wait until I get some new tubes, I'm excited about how this thing will sound. The only thing I don't like is the blue marvel speakers could be better (those may get changed soon)

Thanks for the recommendation about dougs tubes, I'll definitely contact him. Pics soon! I promise! It will be of it in pieces though, I have the amp separated from the speaker and cabs, but hey, that means some good inside shots
GUITARS:
PRS Semi-Hollow Custom SE

Amps:
Peavey Ranger 2x12 Twin Killer


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Meh. Looks like an SE to me.
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xCaLeBx1225
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Picture time!







sorry about the quality (just rocking my camera phone sadly)

the classic 50 may have been prettier, but sound>looks
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PRS Semi-Hollow Custom SE

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Peavey Ranger 2x12 Twin Killer


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Meh. Looks like an SE to me.
Well, thanks for confirming you know absolutely nothing about PRS guitars.
Last edited by xCaLeBx1225 at Nov 17, 2012,
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These old Peaveys are excellent. Definitely get JJ's or winged C's if you can find them.

That said, you might want to take it to a tech for a checkup. The tubes were old, so the caps probably are too.
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I'll probably grab some JJ's is what it's looking like. And yeah I agree, I am very impressed by this amp compared to my old classic 50 (2002 model I believe) idk, it just seems far superior in alot of ways to me, otherwise I wouldn't have traded haha. As to taking it to a tech, I'm trying to not spend alot of money on it, if it's needed I'll do it. But I don't see a real reason it needs to go to a tech, at least not for right now.
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Peavey Ranger 2x12 Twin Killer


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Tube depot has a sale on SED winged C's.

Thanks for posting the gut shots!
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xCaLeBx1225
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Cool I'll have to check that sale out. Another question for you guys, is there some specific tubes that are known to be better in a combo? Like less likely to rattle or go micro phonic etc etc.
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PRS Semi-Hollow Custom SE

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Peavey Ranger 2x12 Twin Killer


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#13
I recently picked up a 1983 Peavey Encore 65, (2 12ax7's, 1 12at7 and 2 6L6's). I dropped some Tung-Sol 6L6GC STRs in and I'm pretty happy with them. Do you know if it's straight 6L6's or 6L6GC's? I think the Ranger production began at least 15 years after the Encore but it'd be a pain to find out later you needed GCs.

Congrats on the amp though!
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yes they're 6l6gc's, sorry for no specification. Excuse my ignorance, but whats the difference?
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PRS Semi-Hollow Custom SE

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6L6GCs can handle (I think) 500V and 30 watts at the plate, higher than the standard (older) 6L6 (360V and 19 watts) - you can check for a schematic but I think Peavey does in fact run higher plate voltages, so you'd need the GC's.
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wow congrats!
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I don't think anybody has made any 6L6 tubes other than 6L6GC for about 50 years. You got to go back a long way in history to find 6L6GA or GB tubes. All modern or modernish 6L6's are 6L6GC, doesn't matter what has been written on them, that's what they are.

For 6L6's, I must say this 100 times a month; SED =C= if you can afford them, JJ if you can't.


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Very interesting - probably would have affected my selection when I was buying. Good to know though, for future reference.
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Are the SED =C= more or less prone to rattle than JJ's?
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SED =C= tubes were designed to pull 3g in a Mig jet - they don't rattle. They are the best modern production tube that money can buy. But having said that, JJ are the best value for money.
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i find it really interesting that the preamp tubes are mounted inside the chassis.

they look like they'd be a bitch to change out. are there holes in the chassis to pull them through behind the foam along the top of the tubes?

i swap preamp tubes around a bit to find the ones that sound best to me in different positions so initially that would probably aggravate me a bit. once i found the set up i like best though i'd probably not mess with them unless one failed. (unlikely as hell) so after the initial tinkering i'd be good, but are they easy enough to get out once you remove the chassis?

still a cool amp either way, i'd love to hear clips of it. a twin clean channel with a peavey gain channel is something i'd be all over.

edit: actually looking closer at them i can see that you access them from the back so you wouldn't have to remove the chassis. it's just a trick of the angle of the image, got it. pretty damn cool imo.
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Jesus, those transformers are enormous.

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I'll upload a clip in probably a week or two (long wait I know, sorry, I'm trying to save up to get the SED =C= plus some 12ax7's plus shipping time) but as soon as possible I'll update with clips. And yes @ gregs thats why I love this amp, it may look ugly, especially compared to the classic 50 4/10 I traded, but twin cleans and the peavey distortion just made it all SO very worth it. It sounds purty, despite its appearance.

Also you remove the 12ax7's by unscrewing a plate on the back (what the foam is mounted to) it's not a big hassle. And it's secure.

edit: Oh and also, yes those transformers, daggone. This suckers weighs in around 95 lbs.....its a back breaker. But worth it.
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Peavey Ranger 2x12 Twin Killer


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I wonder who made the transformers for peavey back then. I agree they are a decent size, the pic i deceiving. That's a big amp.
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Yeah it definitely is. Doug reccommended I go with this for the retube:

pre-amp tone kit consisting of (and recommended placing):

V1 - Tung 12AX7

V2 - Penta Labs 12AX7

V3 - Penta Labs 12AX7

V4 - Sovtek 12AX7 LPS

Matched with Tung-Sol 7581's.

any comment on this recommendation? Looks good to me, just so long as the 7581's don't rattle
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Peavey Ranger 2x12 Twin Killer


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^ I love Doug and all but that is a pretty standard rec from him. Those tubes are OK, but they are not what I would do. I personally despise Tung Sol tubes. Too bright. Those Penta Labs 9th Gen are Chinese something or others rebranded (I bought one from Doug). Not a bad tube but there is better. I believe that Sovtek LPS works well in Peavey amps but again.

I would get all JJs and then consider JAN Phillips 5751 in the V4 PI spot.

Maybe get one Tung Sol if you like a bright clean tone.

Can't speak to the 7581's. I guess those are real close to a 6L6? Again - I'd just get JJ 6L6s.
xCaLeBx1225
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Hmm they're bright? I specifically said I want a smooth bluesy tone, well back to the JJ idea I suppose
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PRS Semi-Hollow Custom SE

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Peavey Ranger 2x12 Twin Killer


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It somewhat depends on the amp but yes. I find that Tung Sols are pretty bright. That is a general consensus as well. They are good tubes I just don't gel with them. I don't know anything about your amp or what you play. Doug gave a good rec but I see that recommendation a lot from him so I wonder if he just lots of those tubes laying around

I personally like JJ's and they work for me well in just about every slot. Maybe get a mix of stuff and do some 'tube rolling'
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Quote by 311ZOSOVHJH
Maybe get a mix of stuff and do some 'tube rolling'

+1

different amps and speaker combinations will react differently to tube swaps, what sounds good in one amp may have little affect on another. it's really up to preference.

since you like a softer blues tone i'd be sure to grab a couple jan 5751s for rolling about the preamp along with some JJ 12ax7s.

i'd also consider some different speaker options. i personally like the warehouse ET65s because they work well for a variety of music and don't cost a fortune but speakers are kinda like tubes and it comes down to preference.

my guess is you'd like them too, especially over the stock peavey speakers. stock stuff is decent, but often times it's once you replace them with something good that you realize how much room for improvement there was.

good luck, your amp has me curious about these, it could be a real sleeper out there we don't see that often. the idea of a twin clean and a peavey gain channel is pretty intriguing i won't lie. please do clips if you can.
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I don't think I've ever played anything in black walnut. It's a great ice cream flavor, so I assume it works well for a strat too.

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The slugs in the pickups for telecasters are from old winchester rifles, which is why they sound so country.