Pregowski92
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Hi guys, i'm looking to get an overdrive pedal to flavor up my clean tone. I'm trying to really go for the vintage overdriven tone. That scratchy, full, saturated sound. Not too distorted. My style of is sort of "heavy indie", as stupid a term as that may sound. Arctic Monkeys/Libertines etc. as opposed to your jangly 'the smiths' indie.

Obviously the first thing that sprung to mind was the classic ibanez tubescreamer. But i've been looking into various other pedals like some of the boss overdrives etc.

My budget is up to around £100, could pay a bit more if it was really worth it though.

Anyway guys, hope you can help. Cheers.
stonyman65
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Can't beat a TS808 or TS9 tubescreamer or a copy. I also really like the BOSS SD-1. For $50, you can't go wrong.
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Boss blues driver is pretty good for that sharp kinda distortion... What kinda amp you using??
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I love my mxr ZW-44. It really drive your tubes, without adding too much flavor, unless you crank the gain!
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If you want a Monkey's-esque overdrive, Alex uses a tubescreamer for FWN and Humbug, unless I am mistaken.
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Pregowski92
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Hmm yeah, it looks like the tubescreamer is the best option. There are a lot of clones though for like a fraction of the price. Anyone heard about the JOYO vintage overdrive? Apparently it's a direct tubescreamer replica. And it's like £20. Look at this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rWid6aO0_Y

genuinely cannot hear a noticeable difference, listen without the video, don't watch it, you'll surprise yourself. seems like some foul play's at work here! either way seems like £20's a steal
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yeah i have the joyo

don't have a tubescreamer here to try it against (for obvious reasons... i got the joyo so i didn't have to pay £100-£150 for the ibanez version) and it sounds pretty good. sounds tubescreamery to me, though obviously without the "real thing" to try it against head-to-head I can't say for sure it sounds exact. I'm pretty sure it is meant to be a clone, though.

thomann sells them rebranded under the harley benton brand- might be worth considering, they're a little cheaper than in the UK and you get the 3 year warranty. But unless you're buying other stuff at the same time, there's a 10 euro postage charge.

you can also get them for peanuts from china (e.g. from marcmart) with the mooer code (mooer132 or something like that), but you have to buy a mooer as well. the code takes 50% off everything in your basket.

though if something goes wrong you're more or less screwed, maybe.

up to you.
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Tubescreamers are great with certain amps (same as fuzz's) if you have a very middy amp the screamer will highlight this and make it worse......... I have tried the joyo on my friends amp and mine, sounds ok on mine just not my cup of tea, he has a middy amp (peavy delta blues - lovely clean amp just a a bit middy distorted) and it just seems to highlight a lot of the amps less likable tones...

so as I asked...what kinda amp you using? are you just going to be using your amp or will you plug into a different amp everywhere you play?
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that's also a very good point
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The xotic ep booster is amazing!!!!!
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the xotic can be great if you run your amp right, like any boost. its going to push the amp, so depending on your headroom and gain / channel / master settings, yes it will push an map into a good crunch tone.

but it all depends. i would try it out on an amp of comparable specs before you buy. as for it doing the same thing as an overdrive with a volume and gain control, no its not the same.

honestly it sounds like a green rhino would be good or some form of big muff or big muff clone.

i personally would buy this. slightly out of your range:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG6B5KUystg

off pro shop guitar. i played one in person. they are hand made literally 100% (like the guy flickenger is sitting in his house with a soldering iron, and when hes done he hand paints it).

they are the most transparent effects ive ever seen, and even played through a Dr. Z amp was the most transparent setup ive ever played.
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Pregowski92
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Thanks for the info guys. I'll definitely check some of those pedals out. I've currently got a frontman 212r and a vox 30vr, don't know how these work with OD pedals.
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i would assume not well- at least until you can try them to prove otherwise.

i was just assuming you have a valve amp.

i mean a ts will work as a standalone od too, so should be alright with an SS amp (and it's not like the joyo will break the bank), but yeah... it'll work better with a valve amp. certainly don't be buying a £200 boutique pedal if you only have solid state amps, that's craziness.
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A Frontman might do alright with an OD... But it certainly won't do 'well.'
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Pregowski92
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I see, i thought the 30vr was a valve amp, or at least, half-valve, or something like that? I don't pay much attention to the valve/solid-state beef unfortunately
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AC30VR is not tube.
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the xotic can be great if you run your amp right, like any boost. its going to push the amp, so depending on your headroom and gain / channel / master settings, yes it will push an map into a good crunch tone.

but it all depends. i would try it out on an amp of comparable specs before you buy. as for it doing the same thing as an overdrive with a volume and gain control, no its not the same.

honestly it sounds like a green rhino would be good or some form of big muff or big muff clone.

i personally would buy this. slightly out of your range:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG6B5KUystg

off pro shop guitar. i played one in person. they are hand made literally 100% (like the
guy flickenger is sitting in his house with a soldering iron, and when hes done he hand paints it).

they are the most transparent effects ive ever seen, and even played through a Dr. Z amp was the most transparent setup ive ever played.


The Xotic is an awesome little beast.....in front of the amp dial around 9 o'clock you can get a nice transparent clean boost with both dip switches in the on position you get boosted lower end and chimney top end without changing the tone of your amp....turn it up to 3 o'clock it drives your amp into transparent natural overdrive that adds gain without coloring your amps natural tone....turn off both dip switches and you have it in vintage mode....at 3 o'clock it add a transparent middy boost that's all your amp.....no color!!! If you like the sound of your amp and just wanna add grit to your amps tone turn the knob to 3 oclock its the perfect pedal. If you wanna add gain or boost with a different color to you tone check out something based off a TS-9...
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Pregowski92
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Ah okay. i'm thinking of getting a vox ac15 which is a valve amp. Will it make a massive difference to OD?
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Ah okay. i'm thinking of getting a vox ac15 which is a valve amp. Will it make a massive difference to OD?

Well first of all an AC15 is going to be just a vast improvement in all regards, but in terms of ability to take an OD pedal well... It's gonna be night and day. AC15s are considered to be perfect pedal platforms, whereas basically anything solid state is considered to be 'iffy' at best. Really no comparison there. That's like asking if mustard is gonna be much better on a burger as opposed to a pile of dog doo... Yes, mustard is better on the burger.
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I saw in a couple of pictures that on Bucketheads Les Paul (only some pictures) that his neck pickup is painted in white. Can anyone explain to me why he would do this, and if there are any pros and cons.

Quote by dspellman
The guy wears a KFC Bucket and a white mask during performances, and you're interested in the color of his pickup covers?