#1
I seem to be having a lot of trouble with what I guess could be called "songwriter's development hell." I get a sudden spurt of inspiration, write a really cool section or two, and then can't seem to develop the song any further or reach any sort of ending point. I'd say I have around six or seven songs about half-written that are currently in this state.

Has anyone else dealt with this problem? Any advice would be appreciated.
#2
Finish it then edit it later.
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#3
I'm in that boat as well. Probably got about 10 unfinished songs.
dirtbag ballet by the bins down the alley
as i walk through the chalet of the shadow of death
everything that you've come to expect


#4
I have like 100 of these, none finished at all. The problem for me is that they'd need vocals which I absolutely can't do at this point.
#5
This is where the classical ethos of development comes in handy. You should look into it.

...modes and scales are still useless.


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#6
I have this problem, too. And it really annoys the hell out of me.

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Finish it then edit it later.


This seems like the best way to combat this. Just fill in the parts you don't have with a simple rhythm or something that you know can be easily changed. Then once you feel like all of the parts are "completed", go back and spruce it up.


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#7
i got a shitload of those

and 0 actual finished songs

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#8
Write some crappy songs, then kill yourself. Instant fame.

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#9
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Write some crappy songs, then kill yourself. Instant fame.


So 1994.


Luckily, the '90s are in right now.


Do it.
#11
Quote by rockingamer2
Finish it then edit it later.

I've done this once in the past, and it worked out alright... Maybe I should do this more. I guess I just don't enjoy this sort of process as much as when a complete song comes naturally to me.

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This is where the classical ethos of development comes in handy. You should look into it.

If you could elaborate, that'd be great.

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That's because you're bad at writing music. Anyone can come up with ideas, the hard part is developing them.

So this is an issue exclusive to bad songwriters? >___> Right.
#13
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That's because you're bad at writing music. Anyone can come up with ideas, the hard part is developing them.

my problem isn't lack of ideas or inability at developing them, i just lose interest in the song.
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#14
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#16
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Write some crappy songs, then kill yourself. Instant fame.

Whoa, whoa! That sounds like way too much work.


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#18
On the other hand, I've heard a lot of artists say that they try to finish songs fairly quickly when they first conceptualize them, as to try to capture a moment of time in their thinking.
#19
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#20
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If you could elaborate, that'd be great.

Classical music is all about development. It takes a theme or idea and presents it. Then it wrestles with it and mangles it, changes it, moves it around, does any number of things to it. Ever try to write out a riff and you keep getting stuff that isn't quite "main riff" material? Or riffs that are cool in their own right but don't fit the song? Well, you can take those ideas, polish them and use them later.

Check out the theme to this piece and see how it's changed throughout the piece:


Another example, keep an ear (and eye, since these are cool visualizations) for the main theme through the piece. Sometimes it's obvious when it comes back, but other times you can hear bits of it and then he takes in in another direction.
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#21
Do you tab out your songs? That always helps me because I can go back to whatever idea I had before when I have another moment of inspiration.

If you came up with a cool lick that you wanted to use for a different song.. maybe you could transpose it to the key of the original song you had? Who knows, it might work. And before someone goes on a tirade and says this is a terrible method of songwriting, it also might not work, but it's worth a shot.

Sometimes it helps to come up with a simple bassline, tab it out, and then come up with the guitar and drum parts over top of it, then come back to the bassline and expand on that.

It'll take some time no matter what, though.
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