#1
So i am highly considering buying myself one of these amps.

I like to play a variety of styles, to give you guys an idea:

Hendrix, Jack White, Pumpkins, Foo Fighters, Weezer, SRV, AC/DC, Tool, APC, Soundgarden to name a few.

I dont play anything particularly heavy, I was looking for an amp i can gig with since i am forming a band with friends to have a bit of fun. Do you guys think this amp is the right fit? The local GC doesnt have it on hand sadly and neither does the Sam Ash so im only going by YT vids.

If you guys think theres a better choice heres the rest of the info:

My budget is ~2k including Cab, I dont mind if its a combo but if its is a combo id prefer a 2x12. Prefer used.
I'd like an FX loop, reverb and 2 channels min.
#3
I would rather have a Marshall DSL for that stuff. It'd sound much more authentic.

But if you want a bassier, darker tone then the Rockerverb would be excellent.
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#4
I was originally a Bass player for many years so i have a tendency to like those kind of tones if you understand where i am coming from. If i had to make one clarification, the amp wont be used to play covers of those bands but rather for original stuff im working on. However, my what i choose to make at any given time changes drastically.

My friends say i have my "weeks" where i harp a specific sound then the next i go for another. So versatility is the name of the game in this lol
#5
other stuff to consider

http://miami.craigslist.org/brw/msg/3449687322.html Mesa Stiletto Ace
http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/msg/3451533549.html Bogner Shiva **
http://miami.craigslist.org/brw/msg/3452879764.html Mesa Road King
http://miami.craigslist.org/pbc/msg/3406954894.html Mesa Roadster
http://miami.craigslist.org/brw/msg/3426452063.html Egnater Tourmaster
http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/msg/3460598759.html Traynor YCS90
http://miami.craigslist.org/pbc/msg/3450961364.html Mesa Single Rec Rectoverb
http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/msg/3441168936.html Randall RM4 preamp (needs power amp)
http://miami.craigslist.org/brw/msg/3385102916.html JCM 800 2204 vertical
http://miami.craigslist.org/pbc/msg/3413401202.html Mesa Stiletto
http://miami.craigslist.org/pbc/msg/3435686231.html Marsahll 18w Plexi reissue
http://miami.craigslist.org/brw/msg/3431643955.html Marshall JCM 800 reissue
http://miami.craigslist.org/pbc/msg/3425715433.html Mesa Mark IV
http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/msg/3419492733.html Marshall JVM 205
http://miami.craigslist.org/brw/msg/3416260484.html Mesa Mark IIb
http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/msg/3382158260.html Egnater Renegade
http://miami.craigslist.org/brw/msg/3336549416.html VHT Pitbull
http://miami.craigslist.org/pbc/msg/3375004970.html Marshall Artist 3203
http://miami.craigslist.org/pbc/msg/3364637947.html Hughes & Kettner Triamp
http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/msg/3368990933.html Carvin Legacy Vai sig
http://miami.craigslist.org/pbc/msg/3359450892.html Marshall Mark IV

bunch of Vox AC30s too but not sure they will do the trick

*Disclaimer*
I have not played all of these
Can't guruantee they will work for you
some require the purchase of a speaker cabinet
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rockerverb 50 is cool too

also check out Splawn and the EVH 5150 III
#6
I personally thought the rockerberb was amazing at balls out gain but pretty meh for everything else. Apparently they have helped the clean channel and reverb out on the new mk2. but even the gain channel didn't sound so crash hot at lower gain setting. For high gain this is definately one of my favourite amps.

inb4 Cath. Splawn.
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#7
I am looking into the MKII actually. Thx for the list 311, ill look into some of those as well. Not like im spending my lunch money so i wanna make sure i get the right fit.
#9
Yes it uses the EL-34s and has a better clean channel and transparent fx loop
#10
Quote by 311ZOSOVHJH
yeah the MKII runs EL34 too right?

and has a few other improvements/changes

311, the 100 MKII comes stock with EL34s but it'll take 6L6s. I suspect KT77s will work fine, too.

Remnest, have you checked out the Thunderverb 200? Useful for Bass, too.

#11
Would the thunderverb be as versatile? Honestly i dont know much about them. Ive only been able to try the Terror series and the ADs
#12
Quote by Remnest
Would the thunderverb be as versatile? Honestly i dont know much about them. Ive only been able to try the Terror series and the ADs

Pretty versatile since the Clean is very useable while the low end is pretty massive. I recycled it only because I got a better Bass amp and a bunch of brootz amps.
#13
I use a JCM DSL 100 and play a shit ton of those bands music and I can nail some great tones out of it.

That being Said, I love the distinct british sound an Orange has. And would love to own one. should still nail those tones but in a darker way
#14
the opposite of dark here is bright.

i can see a bright amp being good for AC/DC

here is his list again...

Hendrix, Jack White, Pumpkins, Foo Fighters, Weezer, SRV, AC/DC, Tool, APC, Soundgarden

Pumpkins, Tool, Soundgarden, Hendrix don't strike me as being bright. Well, maybe Tool has a bright guitar tone. WTFIDKBBQ
#15
311, the VOX AC30 is my close second for picks. Its always been among my fav amps.
#18
Quote by Ippon
I threw the Thunderverb just in case you planned to switch between guitar and bass.

BTW, was your budget for a used Rockerverb 50? You can also buy a nice Marshall or Laney VH100R or QuickRod for that scratch.


As far as i know it would have to be used since they run well over 2k new, not to mention quality cabs aint cheap.

As far as ive been able to see the MKII has a rather nice clean channel, then again im not one to trust YT vids THAT much, anyone got 1st hand experience?

Ive looked into some of the fender amps which have epic cleans but i always find their OD to be lacking and they dont lend themselves well to anything high gain or very modern, though i may be wrong since ive only tried the twinreverb and the bassman.
#19
i only really find an AC30 a little bright when the volume is low. turn that baby up and it thickens up like a beast.

If you can get a handwired for a good price and are looking to turn up the volume then it is definately worth a look. The only thing you will propbably have trouble with is Tool. The rockerverb would be better for that but AC30 and a pedalboard for basically everything else.
#20
Hmmm, the HW version does seem like a good choice. Like you said, xcept for the Tool or APC it would lend itself well for most of everything else......
#21
Quote by Remnest
As far as i know it would have to be used since they run well over 2k new, not to mention quality cabs aint cheap.

As far as ive been able to see the MKII has a rather nice clean channel, then again im not one to trust YT vids THAT much, anyone got 1st hand experience?

Ive looked into some of the fender amps which have epic cleans but i always find their OD to be lacking and they dont lend themselves well to anything high gain or very modern, though i may be wrong since ive only tried the twinreverb and the bassman.

Yep, I still have the Rockerverb 100 MKII and the Clean is pretty useable. If I were you, I'd also check out a Rivera KTre, outstanding Fender Cleans and more Gain than you'll need.
#22
Splawn.




But seriously, a Quickrod would have to be a good choice for what you want.
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#23
Quote by Cathbard
Splawn.




But seriously, a Quickrod would have to be a good choice for what you want.


Lol it was already predicted you'd suggest splawn. I have little knowledge about splawn, though i hear great things about them. You really think its a versatile amp to cover the spectrum i like?
#24
That's a wide variety of sounds from the artists you listed; Marshall, Fender, Diezel, Supro, Mesa, Vox...those were all used to get those tones from those guys. And then some.

Sounds like you're leaning towards a more British sound though...

Are you gigging? If not (and even if you are!), maybe look into a CEC amps Toll-Free Express. http://www.cecamps.com/main/amplifiers/toll-free-express/
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#25
Yes i plan to gig in the near future, we just got a band together. And i know its a ridiculously wide spectrum of sounds but i tend to write stuff from different sub-genres in rock so id need something that can do at least most of them lol. I know im asking for too much but im sure theres something that gets me close enough.
#27
Quote by 311ZOSOVHJH
The Splawns are fairly versatile but there are a boat load of amps that are MORE versatile.

+311

I'd look at the Soldano Decatone and HotRod 100 Plus, Mesa TremOVerb and Roadster (RoadKing II if you have the scratch), H&K Duotone, Peavey JSX, etc. Most versatile amps are very good; but, some peeps feel they're not very good for what they want. I love the Decatone. RoadKing II, and HR100+, followed by the TremOVerb and JSX, then the Duotone and Roadster.
#28
A Mesa Royal Atlantic may be worth a look at too.
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#30
Quote by Cathbard
A Mesa Royal Atlantic may be worth a look at too.


That may be another one to consider along with the Roadking.....though the Series II is out of budget for sure.

So you guys think that the Mesa offerings would be better suited for my needs over the Orange?
#31
In a band setting, most of those amps are more than sufficient/suitable, an opinion. You need to audition them and buy the one that is most pleasant to you if you play alone a lot, or compose by yourself.

Those amps have distinct characteristics when playing at home/apartment vs. practice volumes. Start auditioning them over several days or weekends. What I find nice might be to you/some, etc.
#32
I know the local GC has the RA100 and a Roadking so ill try those out tmr. Sadly they have no Rockerverb so i cant compare. This is going to be a lengthy process, hopefully i learn something. I appreciate the help guys.
#34
mesa MKIV's are pretty cheap now. i love mine. i paid $875 for the long head, recapped and with brand new tubes. its an older one with the fan reverb and attached cord, but i love it. throw an OD in front of it (timmy in my case) dime the timmy into the second channel and its orgasmic. i also have the third channel for LOG, and nice cleans.

also my VHT sig:X is very flexible, really really nice cleans for a 3 channel amp at the price. i use the second channel more djent, and the third more brootz. the second channel can go damn near clean all the way up to a single gain stage less OD than the third channel.

about the only things more versatile would arguable the VH4 (haven't played but listened to a lot), MKV, or MFX thing like axefx or kemper, but i don't do modeling.
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also my VHT sig:X is very flexible, really really nice cleans for a 3 channel amp at the price. i use the second channel more djent, and the third more brootz. the second channel can go damn near clean all the way up to a single gain stage less OD than the third channel.

about the only things more versatile would arguable the VH4 (haven't played but listened to a lot), MKV, or MFX thing like axefx or kemper, but i don't do modeling.

The Sig:X would suck, for me, for the tones needed (Hendrix, Jack White, Pumpkins, Foo Fighters, Weezer, SRV, AC/DC, Tool, APC, Soundgarden). The CLX (EL34) would be better; maybe, even the UltraLead for the KT88 flavor.

You'd need to try really hard with the VH4 (I did), IMO. The Herbert or Einstein would be better. Since we've edged to beyond budget, the XTC and Shiva would be very nice, too.

I'd take the RA100 over the MKIV or V. I no longer have a modeling amp since my brief few weeks with the AxeFX but I still have most of the amps mentioned.