#1
So I've been looking at getting a new guitar recently. I've had my eye on a lot of les paul style guitars, and I'm thinking about some possible trade up. The ESP EC's and the PRS Singlecuts have both caught my eye. Problem is, both are quite expensive. Is there anything similar under $500? I'm not willing to purchase an agile, because i won't be able to try it beforehand, so those are out of the question.
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The only ones with "Les Paul" written on it are the Epiphones...

Look for a Tribute plus model ~600 USD
that includes Gibson pickups, good electronics and a hardcase

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#5
Maybe find an Agile that you can try, they are really worth a look. Mine was very good out of the box, other than needing new strings ASAP. The only thing I would change is the stubby horn.
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Maybe find an Agile that you can try, they are really worth a look. Mine was very good out of the box, other than needing new strings ASAP. The only thing I would change is the stubby horn.


Did you read his post ?

I'm not willing to purchase an agile, because i won't be able to try it beforehand, so those are out of the question


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#8
Obviously I read his post, thats why I suggested finding an Agile to try, either used in a store or someone he knows. Perhaps if he tries one he might really like it and would not have given them consideration otherwise. In the Sub-$500 range Agile has some very nice offerings.

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#11
I'm surprised nobody mentioned the prs se line. They have a bunch of singlecuts that are 500 $ worth and they are great guitars. The singlecut and mark tremonti signature are worth considering.
#12
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I'm surprised nobody mentioned the prs se line. They have a bunch of singlecuts that are 500 $ worth and they are great guitars. The singlecut and mark tremonti signature are worth considering.


I have not played a Tremonti version, but have player the regular SE Singlecut on several occasions. It is a very nice guitar. Right up against the $500 mark, but likely worth it.
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#13
My Epiphone LP is one of the best guitars I have ever played once set up properly. It's had no faults in the 7-8 years I have owned it and it is very solid.

I have also heard good things about the PRS SE line like Pierre-Claude said. Havent had the chance to try one myself. I hope to get the Tremonti SE at some point though.
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Putting my 2 cents in and recommending Epiphone. I just picked up my 3rd Epiphone(2nd Epi LP), a Ltd Ed Standard Pearl & Ebony and I'm very happy.
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#17
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Buying a guitar new is retarded.

Not always possible to try a guitar before you buy it if it's used. I'm willing to spend more money if i have that opportunity before buying it because the guitars i've bought in the past that were used were complete lemons.
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Buying a guitar new is retarded.


If everyone bought used, the guitar manufacturers would go out of business and not release new designs and models. We would be stuck with the same guitars forever.

Your statement is retarded.
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If everyone bought used, the guitar manufacturers would go out of business and not release new designs and models. We would be stuck with the same guitars forever.

Your statement is retarded.


As long as you think spending more money on the exact same product is a good decision, I'll be here to reap the benefits.
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The guitars I want aren't always available used. Some are not cheaper used, like my Bill Nash for instance. Some of my guitars are custom builds. There are plenty of resons to buy new. To me a guitar is a very personal thing. Not every LP Std or Strat is going to play and sound exactly the same. If I find one that I really bond with and it is new, heck yeah I'm going to buy it. Like many I didn't get into guitar to save money.
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As long as you think spending more money on the exact same product is a good decision, I'll be here to reap the benefits.


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The guitars I want aren't always available used. Some are not cheaper used, like my Bill Nash for instance. Some of my guitars are custom builds. There are plenty of resons to buy new. To me a guitar is a very personal thing. Not every LP Std or Strat is going to play and sound exactly the same. If I find one that I really bond with and it is new, heck yeah I'm going to buy it. Like many I didn't get into guitar to save money.


I am glad the only owner of my guitar has been me. I know all its fine details and yeah its a personal thing. I would be mortified if it got destroyed or stolen as until last year, it was my only guitar.

It's like buying a new car. Some people like that 'new car smell'. Same thing goes for guitars imo.
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As long as you think spending more money on the exact same product is a good decision, I'll be here to reap the benefits.


Or not. While I'm certainly not against buying used, the blanket statement that it's better that way isn't true. Some people sell guitars because they get bored with them and there's nothing wrong with the guitar itself, some people sell guitars becuase they've somehow over-extended themselves and need the money ( a very poor position to be in) and some poeple sell guitars because there's something wrong with them and they usually don't disclose this.
Moving on.....
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My Epiphone LP is one of the best guitars I have ever played once set up properly. It's had no faults in the 7-8 years I have owned it and it is very solid.

I have also heard good things about the PRS SE line like Pierre-Claude said. Havent had the chance to try one myself. I hope to get the Tremonti SE at some point though.



Except for, you know... All of those intonation and tuning issues you've been talking about for the last 4 months or so in the CATPM thread.


Also, I think its a bit different with cars. You lose much more money when you buy a new car compared to a guitar.
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#24
some gibson models are on sale right now for $599 new at sam ash. call a store near you if you can to see what they have in stock. (i don't think they can advertise that price on the web) they are blowing out the 2012 stock like mad.

PRS SE guitars are usually of good quality imo.
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Don't see them.

Like I said, they can't advertise the prices on the web. You would have to call a store. But the worn cherry studios are $530. I just saw three hanging in the buffalo grove store.
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#27
Thanks Greg!

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... les paul style guitars ...

Is there anything similar under $500? I'm not willing to purchase an agile, because i won't be able to try it beforehand, so those are out of the question.

MIJ:

#28
Can't go wrong with a good mij. Finding one to try is the tough part.

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#30
I've nothing against Epis - they're fine guitars , but IMHO I think you pay over the odds because of the Gibson association, and there are many guitars out there that are just as good but don't carry the price tag.

I'd look at the Vintage V100 range (Icon and Reissue), excellent guitars for the money, as good as or better than Epiphone, and at a much lower price.

http://www.jhs.co.uk/vintageelectric.html
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I've nothing against Epis - they're fine guitars , but IMHO I think you pay over the odds because of the Gibson association, and there are many guitars out there that are just as good but don't carry the price tag.

I'd look at the Vintage V100 range (Icon and Reissue), excellent guitars for the money, as good as or better than Epiphone, and at a much lower price.

http://www.jhs.co.uk/vintageelectric.html


wow! i have heard of gibsons are overprice for the name, now epiphones fetch more than they are worth for the connection with gibson???

if you are patient and look for gibsons the price will superise you. i traded MIM tele for a faded SG, i also paid $380 for a Gibson Gothic flying V, and i also got a 1/400 run SG white jazz for a hammer explorer shaped guitar (had $200 invested in it).

you can find a gibson for $400-$500 if you look. worth saving up for over an epiphone due to the association you know epis are so unreasonable.

if you don't want a epi and don't want a gibson, get a tokai or even edwards.
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if you don't want a epi and don't want a gibson, get a tokai or even edwards.

or a burny, or a bacchus, or a greco or if your lucky a navigator. (won't find a navigator for $500, but if you do buy it right now )
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or a burny, or a bacchus, or a greco or if your lucky a navigator. (won't find a navigator for $500, but if you do buy it right now )



The new chinese Burny and Bacchus Universe guitars are getting pretty good reviews. The Universe even has a long tenon and a maple cap (flame veneered) if you're into that.


Check out the Bacchus BLS-700 FM or the Burny RLG-55.
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Not always possible to try a guitar before you buy it if it's used. I'm willing to spend more money if i have that opportunity before buying it because the guitars i've bought in the past that were used were complete lemons.


This plus if there is no used market, like in my area, the guitar I want may never become available.
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