University: Taking units in other disciplines vs. Adding more to your field of study

jesse music
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Hi all, I'm studying a bachelor of music composition, but lately I've been considering adding a minor in something like philosophy or english literature.

Would it be wiser to enlarge my field of Uni study while not doing as many composition units as I could or to focus solely on completing as many units relevant to composition as possible (as I would like to work somewhere in this field, teaching, arranging, composing, etc) such as orchestration, music business, music technology or whatever.

I'd be interested just to hear your opinions, thanks
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Instead of going all into composing, take some time to make sure you meet the right people, make good impressions and all that networking jazz. You could in something that can compliment to your composition major or in something that just interests you.

EDIT: This is a weird bit of info, but if you want to a music oriented minor, organ studies is a good one, although that program isn't seen too often. Being an organ player is a pretty decent gig.
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Quote by jesse music
a minor in something like philosophy or english literature.


Don't ever study English literature; it's bullshit.

Philosophy probably is too.


Do a minor in Psychology. That way you can write healing music for ladies with daddy issues.
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Instead of going all into composing, take some time to make sure you meet the right people, make good impressions and all that networking jazz. You could in something that can compliment to your composition major or in something that just interests you.


I already have quite a few connections at the music faculty and I'm getting to know some studying film because film scoring is an area I'd very much like to get into.

What sort of thing would compliment a composition major? I'd assume education is one, but that's pretty much a no-brainier for 90% of University degrees.
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I already have quite a few connections at the music faculty and I'm getting to know some studying film because film scoring is an area I'd very much like to get into.

What sort of thing would compliment a composition major? I'd assume education is one, but that's pretty much a no-brainier for 90% of University degrees.

If you want to know more about the film stuff, talk to Xiaoxi. You can find him here and in the Musician Talk forum (just head to the chat thread).

I don't know what would compliment a composition major to be honest. I know zip about university composition programs.
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Do philosophy.

It will improve your life and act as a catalyst for clear thoughts.
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Thanks a good point. To be honest, I don't get overly excited by playing instruments, but it sure does help having skills on piano and guitar, knowing a bit about breathing/embouchure/fingering of brass and woodwinds.


Yeah, I imagine that at least knowing how to play the piano would help a lot. I mean, there's only so much notation you can go through before you get bored, right?

From what I've seen, the piano seems to be the ideal instrument for the purposes of composition.
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It depends which end of Philosophy and your opinion on those ends. There's the dreamers who just ramble for days without end. Then there's the scientifically logical side of it, which actually has its roots in Discrete Mathematics. All science has a logical hypothesis for which things are tested upon. Maybe take a look at some summer/winter semester courses (depends what side of the world you're on I guess) and see if you can fill in some gaps there. Also maybe try a dual degree. You'll be there for a bit longer but you'll be far more versatile in the workforce. Once you've done that then you should be able to come to the conclusion yourself. Hope that helps.
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It depends which end of Philosophy and your opinion on those ends. There's the dreamers who just ramble for days without end. Then there's the scientifically logical side of it, which actually has its roots in Discrete Mathematics. All science has a logical hypothesis for which things are tested upon. Maybe take a look at some summer/winter semester courses (depends what side of the world you're on I guess) and see if you can fill in some gaps there. Also maybe try a dual degree. You'll be there for a bit longer but you'll be far more versatile in the workforce. Once you've done that then you should be able to come to the conclusion yourself. Hope that helps.


This is true. I did a Pre-law option, which just means you can take religion, metaphysics, etc. if you want to, but you also do case-studies and such with current world issues. Plus shit looks a lot better when your resume says pre-law or ethics, as opposed to just philosophy.

Philosophy will enhance any other major you do. It is at the basis of all of them. It will help you understand the concepts behind what your other majors are doing, instead of just memorizing them as most people do. I mean, how many business or communications majors do you know who can't name a supreme court justice? If you can get B's in philosophy, you can get A+'s in every other major, guaranteed. There's a reason philosophy majors score highest on standardized tests.

I did some cool philosophy classes on architecture, ancient, Eastern religions, science, etc. However, I did a lot of ethics too: law, business, bio-medical, normative, and feminist, societal, and political.

It was something I actually looked forward to studying and most teachers were chill as ****.


Just my 2 cents. Minor in phil. Do it.
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Have you thought about studying a language? That was a regret of mine after finishing university.
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Yeah, I imagine that at least knowing how to play the piano would help a lot. I mean, there's only so much notation you can go through before you get bored, right?

From what I've seen, the piano seems to be the ideal instrument for the purposes of composition.


I'm studying piano outside of Uni and self-learn guitar. I know shit all (apart from textbook learning) about brass or woodwinds.
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I came from a multidisciplinary field, and although it is great to do something different every day, no one seems to see the benefit lol. So I decided to specialize massively in the end. Although one day I would like to go back to earth sciences.

If I were you I would just take same music business classes.
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Doing a unit in something outside your major is a great way to ruin your GPA. If you're really interested in something in particular, I say just audit it.
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Expand your boundaries. You're only in college once. I'm a political science major but a couple of my favorite classes have been in history and cultural anthropology.
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Expand your boundaries. You're only in college once. I'm a political science major but a couple of my favorite classes have been in history and cultural anthropology.

You should do some economics classes. I think politicians/or whatever you are going to be in that field, should know their economics.
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Pssh, I've taken the general intro course (which I should've skipped), Micro, Macro, Business Law and Principles of Accounting.

At one point I considered adding economics as a double major or minor but nah.
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Pssh, I've taken the general intro course (which I should've skipped), Micro, Macro, Business Law and Principles of Accounting.

At one point I considered adding economics as a double major or minor but nah.

Nice. Than you should have stated that one too in your last post lol.
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Yeah, actual economics (micro & macro) is pretty interesting.

But I'd advise anyone not planning on being an accountant to avoid accounting like the plague. Most boring and mundane subject ever.
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Yeah, actual economics (micro & macro) is pretty interesting.

But I'd advise anyone not planning on being an accountant to avoid accounting like the plague. Most boring and mundane subject ever.

Main reason why I chose to do earth sciences with a specialization and extra classes in economics. Above economics itself. **** marketing and accounting.
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I study physics, and I would never take a module outside of it unless there was a really interesting looking maths one, but that's basically what physics is anyway. If I'm interesting in something which isn't relevant to my degree, I can just study it in my free time. Doing Swahili or something for a semester might sound like a fun idea but I would rather become better at physics/have a wider knowledge base in my field/whatever.
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Doing a unit in something outside your major is a great way to ruin your GPA.


As an engineer, I laugh at you.

Anyway back on topic, look for what you're interested in. Philosophy is a good thing to study. It builds up your logic, which is one of the most important things you can ever do. Language is nice, but it might not be too great of an idea, since one or two classes will not be significant enough to learn a whole lot about the language. If you want to learna language, you'd be better off just traveling to the country or studying abroad there if at all possible. Economics is great too, since it's so relevant to a lot of the major problems today. History is always a good thing to know as well. Literature would be fun if you like reading, but I honestly don't think it will get you a whole lot. In the end, pick what you enjoy and don't be afraid of trying something new. Also if you want to learn something, you don't have to take a class on it to learn it. I love reading, so I can just pick up a book anytime to learn something new. There's always resources online to learn whatever you want as well.
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Don't ever study English literature; it's bullshit.

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Performance and education are obvious complements to composition, and tbh I can't think of many others except like music business and the like. If you want to broaden your academic pursuits there is only one good reason not to, and that's time and money. Time and money spent on non-essential coursework as time and money wasted if you're trying to hurry up or are strapped. Otherwise, they're great investments in yourself and you should totally do it.

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If you want to broaden your academic pursuits there is only one good reason not to, and that's time and money. Time and money spent on non-essential coursework as time and money wasted if you're trying to hurry up or are strapped. Otherwise, they're great investments in yourself and you should totally do it.

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I know, it's really weird and makes absolutely no sense. It's unique to the music faculty too. All other faculties have to fulfill a minor or at least have the option to.
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Haven't you got some kind of Honours Program out there? Here you can apply for an extracurricular program, which involves both of your wishes. Main problem is that it's extracurricular.
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lmao so in other words you're majoring in making big macs and minoring in cleaning bathrooms lololol
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