#1
Hello guys,

i need help to pair my ENGL savage 120 with a decent Cabinet! I will use it at home and for gigs as well. I live in germany! I do not live on the ground floor, so it have to be a 2x12 , i also will transport it a lot, it has to be reliable as well!

Budget: 400€ (i don't mind used or new)

Genres: basically rock and metal / i need a very clean sound because i play acoustic too

i appreciate any help. Thanks in advance!

cheers,
Last edited by c0rn1x at Dec 27, 2012,
#2
Thomann has plenty of 2x12 cabs in your budget (many of which are decent)
However if you search for the appropriate wattage (if you intend to crank it up) since its gonna be a 2x12, it narrows down quite a lot.
#3
Quote by c0rn1x
Hello guys,

i need help to pair my ENGL savage 120 with a decent Cabinet! I will use it at home and for gigs as well. I live in germany! I do not live on the ground floor, so it have to be a 2x12 , i also will transport it a lot, it has to be reliable as well!

Budget: 400€ (i don't mind used or new)

Genres: basically rock and metal / i need a very clean sound because i play acoustic too

i appreciate any help. Thanks in advance!

cheers,

I was going to respond that just because you don't live on the main floor doesn't mean you should discount a 4x12. That said, I think 2x12s are a great option and with you lower'ish budget and need to transport - it just makes sense.

I'd look at used 212 cabs.

Orange
Engl
Framus
Marshall
Lopoline

You should be able to find used 212s by these brands where you live.
#4
Thanks for the answers.

Is there a difference between those "Vintage Celestion Speakers" and todays Speakers? I have heard their is a huge difference in the Volume or am I wrong? So is it then better buying those Vintage Speakers?
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Thanks for the answers.

Is there a difference between those "Vintage Celestion Speakers" and todays Speakers? I have heard their is a huge difference in the Volume or am I wrong? So is it then better buying those Vintage Speakers?

Celestion Vintage 30's are actually very modern sounding don't let the name fool you.
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#6
Quote by c0rn1x
Thanks for the answers.

Is there a difference between those "Vintage Celestion Speakers" and todays Speakers? I have heard their is a huge difference in the Volume or am I wrong? So is it then better buying those Vintage Speakers?



like rob already mentioned, they are a modern speaker. the known for a pronounced midrange hump, this speaker stands out in a mix.

huge difference in volume? no. they have a sensitivity rating (~100 dB) which is actually a little bit on the high side for a guitar speaker. combined with the mid range hump, and this speaker sounds quite a bit louder than most guitar speakers.

many people like the V30, it's a great speaker for someone who doesn't know what they want yet.
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I was going to respond that just because you don't live on the main floor doesn't mean you should discount a 4x12.


have you ever tried lugging a 4x12 up and down stairs a few times a week. REALLY not a brilliant experience.

Playing a gig with backache suffered from lugging your crap about is not brilliant either
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Quote by gumbilicious
like rob already mentioned, they are a modern speaker. the known for a pronounced midrange hump, this speaker stands out in a mix.

huge difference in volume? no. they have a sensitivity rating (~100 dB) which is actually a little bit on the high side for a guitar speaker. combined with the mid range hump, and this speaker sounds quite a bit louder than most guitar speakers.

many people like the V30, it's a great speaker for someone who doesn't know what they want yet.


yeah. and they work pretty well with engls.

since you're in europe, it's hard to beat the harley benton g212 vintage. plywood cab with v30s for £150 or so. you can barely buy the speakers alone for that.
Quote by crownegamers
I saw in a couple of pictures that on Bucketheads Les Paul (only some pictures) that his neck pickup is painted in white. Can anyone explain to me why he would do this, and if there are any pros and cons.

Quote by dspellman
The guy wears a KFC Bucket and a white mask during performances, and you're interested in the color of his pickup covers?

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Quote by Wesbanez
have you ever tried lugging a 4x12 up and down stairs a few times a week. REALLY not a brilliant experience.

Playing a gig with backache suffered from lugging your crap about is not brilliant either




huh?

What I said was:

'I think 2x12's are a great option'
'and need to transport - it just makes sense.'
'I'd look at used 212 cabs.'
'should be able to find used 212s'

Quote by 311ZOSOVHJH
I was going to respond that just because you don't live on the main floor doesn't mean you should discount a 4x12. That said, I think 2x12s are a great option and with you lower'ish budget and need to transport - it just makes sense.

I'd look at used 212 cabs.

Orange
Engl
Framus
Marshall
Lopoline

You should be able to find used 212s by these brands where you live.
#10
Quote by Dave_Mc
yeah. and they work pretty well with engls.

since you're in europe, it's hard to beat the harley benton g212 vintage. plywood cab with v30s for £150 or so. you can barely buy the speakers alone for that.


Engl 2x12 are pretty rare sold as used, the last one i missed "tragically", they went out for only under 300 Euros.

same for Orange cabs.

There is on ebay one harley benton as you mentioned only for 89 Euros (?!!?!), is it so cheap?
#11
^ is it the one with the v30s? there's a cheaper one with harley benton (i assume they're crap) speakers. but i mean even the v30 one is only 189 euros new, so 89 euros may well be the usual used price.
Quote by crownegamers
I saw in a couple of pictures that on Bucketheads Les Paul (only some pictures) that his neck pickup is painted in white. Can anyone explain to me why he would do this, and if there are any pros and cons.

Quote by dspellman
The guy wears a KFC Bucket and a white mask during performances, and you're interested in the color of his pickup covers?