Boonnoo666
IRL Skwisgaar
Join date: Apr 2011
1,357 IQ
#1
Hey guys, I'm in an eBay auction for an 100w tube head and was wondering: Would it be okay to plug it into a Blackstar/Orange 1x12 50w/1x8 20w cab? I've heard about Tube amps blowing when not plugged into Cabs, but will this plug in okay?
Quote by treborillusion
Low end Epiphone = fire wood.

LTD Surveyor 4
Kramer Imperial
Engl Gigmaster E315
Marshall 1936 JCM900 lead cab
My website
Last edited by Boonnoo666 at Jan 13, 2013,
Wesbanez
Registered Abuser
Join date: Aug 2007
1,380 IQ
#2
Can you clear up your question a little? Do you mean you have a Blackstar 1x12 cab @ 50w AND an Orange 1x8 at 20w (no idea what the hell that cab is...).

Generally you'll be fine as long as you match the ohms of your heads ouput to your cab, just don't try cranking a 100w head through a 20w cabinet
[thread="1575882"]Exotic Telecaster Build[/thread]

[thread="1363496"]2x12 Custom Build[/thread]


[thread="1339413"]The Official Egnater Thread V2[/THREAD]

[thread="1356444"]Seven String & ERG Legion[/THREAD]
Boonnoo666
IRL Skwisgaar
Join date: Apr 2011
1,357 IQ
#3
Quote by Wesbanez
Can you clear up your question a little? Do you mean you have a Blackstar 1x12 cab @ 50w AND an Orange 1x8 at 20w (no idea what the hell that cab is...).

Generally you'll be fine as long as you match the ohms of your heads ouput to your cab, just don't try cranking a 100w head through a 20w cabinet

I mean I might buy either:
Blackstar 1x12 50w
Orange 1x8
I just need to know if they will be ok with the 100w with low volume.
Quote by treborillusion
Low end Epiphone = fire wood.

LTD Surveyor 4
Kramer Imperial
Engl Gigmaster E315
Marshall 1936 JCM900 lead cab
My website
Robbgnarly
Tab Contributor
Join date: Feb 2011
1,177 IQ
#4
Go for the highest wattage you can afford. either will be scetchy if you play with any kind of volume.
2002 PRS CE22
2013 G&L ASAT Deluxe
2009 Epiphone G-400 (SH-4)
Marshall JCM2000 DSL100
Krank 1980 Jr 20watt
Krank Rev 4x12 (eminence V12)
GFS Greenie/Digitech Bad Monkey
Morley Bad Horsie 2
MXR Smart Gate
Wesbanez
Registered Abuser
Join date: Aug 2007
1,380 IQ
#5
That makes no sense at all, why would you buy a 100w head then look at underated (power wise) cabs?!

Do yourself a favour and look at the Harley Benton cabs on Thomann.de
[thread="1575882"]Exotic Telecaster Build[/thread]

[thread="1363496"]2x12 Custom Build[/thread]


[thread="1339413"]The Official Egnater Thread V2[/THREAD]

[thread="1356444"]Seven String & ERG Legion[/THREAD]
SHaun Steel
Registered User
Join date: Apr 2011
134 IQ
#6
Quote by Wesbanez
That makes no sense at all, why would you buy a 100w head then look at underated (power wise) cabs?!

Do yourself a favour and look at the Harley Benton cabs on Thomann.de



+1 listen to this man.
Shornifier
Shornifier
Join date: Oct 2009
351 IQ
#7
Dude. Never risk plugging into lower wattage, let alone any different wattage. Play safe.
PLAY WITH A METRONOME
Dave_Mc
Chirp and Swirl
Join date: Mar 2005
2,967 IQ
#8
Quote by Robbgnarly
Go for the highest wattage you can afford. either will be scetchy if you play with any kind of volume.


+1

if you're playing at bedroom practice levels then you'll probably be fine. but as wezbanez says, you'll be severely limiting your options, and you'll never know exactly how high you can turn it while still being safe.
Quote by classicrocker01
Only on UG would I say I got engaged and bought a jet city and get congratulated on the amp


Boonnoo666
IRL Skwisgaar
Join date: Apr 2011
1,357 IQ
#9
Quote by Wesbanez
That makes no sense at all, why would you buy a 100w head then look at underated (power wise) cabs?!

Do yourself a favour and look at the Harley Benton cabs on Thomann.de


Because I have F-all space for 4x12s. I would get one but my Gear's all in the attic. I can't get a 4x12 up the ladder
Quote by treborillusion
Low end Epiphone = fire wood.

LTD Surveyor 4
Kramer Imperial
Engl Gigmaster E315
Marshall 1936 JCM900 lead cab
My website
Dave_Mc
Chirp and Swirl
Join date: Mar 2005
2,967 IQ
#10
^ oh ok. Why not just get a decent cheap plyqood 1x12 (e.g. the vht one on thomann is ~£80, or the jet city one is a similar price) and then swap the speaker? there are several higher wattage speakers available. whether they sound the way you want might be the thing, but it is doable, and safer than going too low on the wattage. Not to mention, those stock speakers in the cabs you were looking at are hardly likely to be much good, either.

Quote by Shornifier
Dude. Never risk plugging into lower wattage, let alone any different wattage. Play safe.


wut
Quote by classicrocker01
Only on UG would I say I got engaged and bought a jet city and get congratulated on the amp


Robbgnarly
Tab Contributor
Join date: Feb 2011
1,177 IQ
#11
get a 1x12 or 2x12 with as close to 100 watt rating as you can. The Celestion G12T100 would be fine in a 1x12.
2002 PRS CE22
2013 G&L ASAT Deluxe
2009 Epiphone G-400 (SH-4)
Marshall JCM2000 DSL100
Krank 1980 Jr 20watt
Krank Rev 4x12 (eminence V12)
GFS Greenie/Digitech Bad Monkey
Morley Bad Horsie 2
MXR Smart Gate
Boonnoo666
IRL Skwisgaar
Join date: Apr 2011
1,357 IQ
#12
Quote by Dave_Mc
^ oh ok. Why not just get a decent cheap plyqood 1x12 (e.g. the vht one on thomann is ~£80, or the jet city one is a similar price) and then swap the speaker? there are several higher wattage speakers available. whether they sound the way you want might be the thing, but it is doable, and safer than going too low on the wattage. Not to mention, those stock speakers in the cabs you were looking at are hardly likely to be much good, either.


wut

Thanks, I've actually seen a cheap 1x12 on Thomann! I'll change out the speakers for Robbgnarly's suggestion
Edit: I might even build my own custom
Quote by treborillusion
Low end Epiphone = fire wood.

LTD Surveyor 4
Kramer Imperial
Engl Gigmaster E315
Marshall 1936 JCM900 lead cab
My website
Last edited by Boonnoo666 at Jan 13, 2013,
Robbgnarly
Tab Contributor
Join date: Feb 2011
1,177 IQ
#13
I know they are probably a bit more price in EU, but Eminence speakers tend to be rated at a higher wattage than a lot of speakers.

Celestion makes several speakers that are 100watt rating G12T100, K-100
2002 PRS CE22
2013 G&L ASAT Deluxe
2009 Epiphone G-400 (SH-4)
Marshall JCM2000 DSL100
Krank 1980 Jr 20watt
Krank Rev 4x12 (eminence V12)
GFS Greenie/Digitech Bad Monkey
Morley Bad Horsie 2
MXR Smart Gate
jimbob78
Registered User
Join date: Feb 2006
887 IQ
#14
Get a nice open back 2x12 with V30's. Versatile, light and good for 150w. Blackstar Artisan cab is quite cheap. Look around for deals.
Quote by Skraeling86
That's a lot of booze. Frankly, I'm impressed. You're of a stronger timber than the average man, jimbob! Hail you.



Quote by Bubban
Yes you should go to a doctor, fucking moron. We can't do anything about your hemorrhoid.


Boonnoo666
IRL Skwisgaar
Join date: Apr 2011
1,357 IQ
#15
Actually, I might just save for an Avatar 2x12.
Quote by treborillusion
Low end Epiphone = fire wood.

LTD Surveyor 4
Kramer Imperial
Engl Gigmaster E315
Marshall 1936 JCM900 lead cab
My website
Robbgnarly
Tab Contributor
Join date: Feb 2011
1,177 IQ
#16
Quote by Boonnoo666
Actually, I might just save for an Avatar 2x12.

Since yopu not in the USA that would be very expensive.
Look at the Harley Benton 2x12 vintage cab. They are cheap on Thomann and it is loaded with Celestion V30 speakers
2002 PRS CE22
2013 G&L ASAT Deluxe
2009 Epiphone G-400 (SH-4)
Marshall JCM2000 DSL100
Krank 1980 Jr 20watt
Krank Rev 4x12 (eminence V12)
GFS Greenie/Digitech Bad Monkey
Morley Bad Horsie 2
MXR Smart Gate
Boonnoo666
IRL Skwisgaar
Join date: Apr 2011
1,357 IQ
#17
Quote by Robbgnarly
Since yopu not in the USA that would be very expensive.
Look at the Harley Benton 2x12 vintage cab. They are cheap on Thomann and it is loaded with Celestion V30 speakers

Oh yeah. That's a good idea, thanks Robb
Quote by treborillusion
Low end Epiphone = fire wood.

LTD Surveyor 4
Kramer Imperial
Engl Gigmaster E315
Marshall 1936 JCM900 lead cab
My website
Robbgnarly
Tab Contributor
Join date: Feb 2011
1,177 IQ
#18
There is Roadkill cabs in the UK which are very similar to what Avatar does with customizing you may want to check them out aswell.
2002 PRS CE22
2013 G&L ASAT Deluxe
2009 Epiphone G-400 (SH-4)
Marshall JCM2000 DSL100
Krank 1980 Jr 20watt
Krank Rev 4x12 (eminence V12)
GFS Greenie/Digitech Bad Monkey
Morley Bad Horsie 2
MXR Smart Gate
Dave_Mc
Chirp and Swirl
Join date: Mar 2005
2,967 IQ
#19
Quote by Boonnoo666
Thanks, I've actually seen a cheap 1x12 on Thomann! I'll change out the speakers for Robbgnarly's suggestion
Edit: I might even build my own custom


which one is it? you really want to make sure it's plywood (i'm guessing it's the harley benton one you're looking at, and i don't think it is... it's worth the extra £20 for ply, IMO).

Quote by Robbgnarly
I know they are probably a bit more price in EU, but Eminence speakers tend to be rated at a higher wattage than a lot of speakers.


that's because they overrate them

but yeah surprisingly eminences are actually pretty good value in europe (or in the UK, anyway). the legends are about as cheap as decent speakers get over here.

but if you're getting a 2x12 and would like v30s you're not gonna beat the harley benton robbgnarly mentioned. the loaded cab is barely more than two v30s at retail prices.
Quote by classicrocker01
Only on UG would I say I got engaged and bought a jet city and get congratulated on the amp


Robbgnarly
Tab Contributor
Join date: Feb 2011
1,177 IQ
#20
Quote by Dave_Mc
That's because they overrate them

but yeah surprisingly eminences are actually pretty good value in europe (or in the UK, anyway). the legends are about as cheap as decent speakers get over here.

but if you're getting a 2x12 and would like v30s you're not gonna beat the harley benton robbgnarly mentioned. the loaded cab is barely more than two v30s at retail prices.

why do you treat me so bad Dave
2002 PRS CE22
2013 G&L ASAT Deluxe
2009 Epiphone G-400 (SH-4)
Marshall JCM2000 DSL100
Krank 1980 Jr 20watt
Krank Rev 4x12 (eminence V12)
GFS Greenie/Digitech Bad Monkey
Morley Bad Horsie 2
MXR Smart Gate
Dave_Mc
Chirp and Swirl
Join date: Mar 2005
2,967 IQ
#21
Quote by classicrocker01
Only on UG would I say I got engaged and bought a jet city and get congratulated on the amp