Page 2 of 2
Drew-A
Rock Guitar Instrumentals
Join date: Jan 2013
21 IQ
#41
Quote by chakab
" Like for example wouldn't an A sharp scale be the same thing as a B flat scale?"

Yes. A sharp and B flat are enharmonic equivalents (different ways of writing the same note).

However, A sharp major would have four sharps and three double sharps, so it's not a practical key for written music.


Exactly!

No musician would refer to an A# scale, the same way they wouldn't refer to the note F as E# or a B as Cb (but they would be enharmonically equivalent - the same pitch).
LiquidSkies
Registered User
Join date: Feb 2007
392 IQ
#42
Quote by Drew-A
Exactly!

No musician would refer to an A# scale, the same way they wouldn't refer to the note F as E# or a B as Cb (but they would be enharmonically equivalent - the same pitch).


I totally use E# or Cb, depending on the key I'm in...
Sleepy__Head
A cornucopia of trivia
Join date: Jul 2011
54 IQ
#43
Quote by Drew-A
Exactly!

No musician would refer to an A# scale, the same way they wouldn't refer to the note F as E# or a B as Cb (but they would be enharmonically equivalent - the same pitch).


Uh, except for the keys of C# major & A# minor (7 sharps), and the keys of Cb major and Ab minor (7 flats).
Quote by Hail
oh shut up with that /mu/ bullshit. fidget house shouldn't even be a genre, why in the world would it deserve its own subgenres you twat
Hail
i'm a mean bully
Join date: Jan 2010
431 IQ
#44
no musician would refer to a scale at all unless they're talking about their instruments

right: "i prefer a 35" for a taut butt end but it's ultimately limiting, hence why i'm looking into the dingwall combustions so i can get the fat ass of a black girl on the same neck as the sweet, innocent face of a 14 year old taiwanese boy"
wrong: "haha faggt its the sublocrian scale not superlocrian wat r u retrded"
Quote by theogonia777
Hail killed MT

Quote by jongtr
I want to be Hail when I grow up.
Sleepy__Head
A cornucopia of trivia
Join date: Jul 2011
54 IQ
#48
Quote by Drew-A
Do you mean Db major (5 flats) and B major (5 sharps) ?


No, I mean C# Major and Cb Major.
Quote by Hail
oh shut up with that /mu/ bullshit. fidget house shouldn't even be a genre, why in the world would it deserve its own subgenres you twat
Sleepy__Head
A cornucopia of trivia
Join date: Jul 2011
54 IQ
#50
Quote by Drew-A
Spend a lot of time playing in Cb major, do you?


Yes.

All the time.

In fact tonight I'm going to play scales and modes in Cb major, C# major, Ab minor, A# minor just to piss both you and Hail off.

And once I'm done with that I'm going to play entirely in double-sharps.

Ha.

Victory is mine.
Quote by Hail
oh shut up with that /mu/ bullshit. fidget house shouldn't even be a genre, why in the world would it deserve its own subgenres you twat
Drew-A
Rock Guitar Instrumentals
Join date: Jan 2013
21 IQ
#51
Quote by Sleepy__Head
Yes.

All the time.

In fact tonight I'm going to play scales and modes in Cb major, C# major, Ab minor, A# minor just to piss both you and Hail off.

And once I'm done with that I'm going to play entirely in double-sharps.

Ha.

Victory is mine.


All right, you win! Enjoy playing in E## Locrian flat 4 or whatever tonight
Sleepy__Head
A cornucopia of trivia
Join date: Jul 2011
54 IQ
#52
Quote by Drew-A
All right, you win! Enjoy playing in E## Locrian flat 4 or whatever tonight


I'm doing it now. A# minor all the way, dude.

btw the symbol for double-sharp is a kind of 'x', so that would be Ex Locrian Flat 4. Although now I come to think of it isn't a flat 4 a kind of engine?
Quote by Hail
oh shut up with that /mu/ bullshit. fidget house shouldn't even be a genre, why in the world would it deserve its own subgenres you twat
Hail
i'm a mean bully
Join date: Jan 2010
431 IQ
#53
the only reason i haven't been banned is cause alan and 20t love to watch me explode and threaten people over semantics
Quote by theogonia777
Hail killed MT

Quote by jongtr
I want to be Hail when I grow up.
Sleepy__Head
A cornucopia of trivia
Join date: Jul 2011
54 IQ
#54
Suck on my Fb.
Quote by Hail
oh shut up with that /mu/ bullshit. fidget house shouldn't even be a genre, why in the world would it deserve its own subgenres you twat
MaggaraMarine
Slapping the bass.
Join date: Oct 2009
3,472 IQ
#55
Quote by Drew-A
Exactly!

No musician would refer to an A# scale, the same way they wouldn't refer to the note F as E# or a B as Cb (but they would be enharmonically equivalent - the same pitch).

What about F# or Gb major? They both have 6 sharps/6 flats. F# major has an E#, not an F. And Gb major has a Cb, not a B. Also E# does appear in C# major chord (that is the V chord of F# minor - key with only three sharps). But I'm not referring to F as E#. I'm referring to E# as E#.
Quote by AlanHB
Just remember that there are no boring scales, just boring players.

Gear

Bach Stradivarius 37G
Charvel So Cal
Hartke HyDrive 210c
Ibanez BL70
Laney VC30
Tokai TB48
Yamaha FG720S-12
Yamaha P115
Drew-A
Rock Guitar Instrumentals
Join date: Jan 2013
21 IQ
#56
Quote by MaggaraMarine
What about F# or Gb major? They both have 6 sharps/6 flats. F# major has an E#, not an F. And Gb major has a Cb, not a B. Also E# does appear in C# major chord (that is the V chord of F# minor - key with only three sharps). But I'm not referring to F as E#. I'm referring to E# as E#.


I know what you're saying. We were just trying to help someone out, not confuse them with semantics.

I see that G♭major is G♭, A♭, B♭, C♭, D♭, E♭, and F, and F♯ major is F♯, G♯, A♯, B, C♯, D♯, and E♯.

Knowing this does not help the original poster out much, but it is accurate.
Last edited by Drew-A at Jan 21, 2013,
Mic13er
Registered User
Join date: Jan 2013
10 IQ
#57
Scales will not make you a better player. Technique will make you a better player. What I imagine you want to be is a better musician. The secret to being a good musician is to develop an intuitive sense of music and how a given note will interact with other notes and chord progressions.
__________
My Blog
Sleepy__Head
A cornucopia of trivia
Join date: Jul 2011
54 IQ
#58
I question the focus of that statement. Personally I would say that scales form part of the musical landscape, just not a very large part. Technique also forms a larger part of that landscape but it's not the whole landscape either. You can have brilliant technique and are boring as hell to listen to. Musicality is also part of the landscape, but not the whole thing - there are people who are very musical players but are limited by their technique.

What makes you a better player is looking at landscape as a whole, getting a general idea of it, and gradually filling in the details rather than filling in the details hoping to get a general idea of the lie of the land.
Quote by Hail
oh shut up with that /mu/ bullshit. fidget house shouldn't even be a genre, why in the world would it deserve its own subgenres you twat