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I'm thinking about trying out an Electro-Harmonix 44 Magnum 44W power amp. I'm looking for a lightweight cab to go with it, loud enough to play with a drummer, and preferably cheap. Thanks!
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I was looking at the Jet City actually, what about the Blackstar Venue Series HTV-212?
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It's not so much the cab I'd be worried about...I don't know if the EHX .44 will be loud enough for a drummer...what sort of music are you playing? Are you aware that you'll need a preamp?
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It's not so much the cab I'd be worried about...I don't know if the EHX .44 will be loud enough for a drummer...what sort of music are you playing? Are you aware that you'll need a preamp?


Basically we play a lot of different stuff. I was looking for a cheap amp with a lot of clean headroom and the .44 got a lot of good reviews. I plan on using mainly pedals with it.
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It's not so much the cab I'd be worried about...I don't know if the EHX .44 will be loud enough for a drummer...what sort of music are you playing? Are you aware that you'll need a preamp?

The .44 is the entire amp, it is just a volume and bright switch. Yes pedals or a POD/MFX would be Ideal, but not nessisary

It should be plenty loud it is a 44 watt amp
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Quote by Robbgnarly
The .44 is the entire amp, it is just a volume and bright switch. Yes pedals or a POD/MFX would be Ideal, but not nessisary

It should be plenty loud it is a 44 watt amp


Yeah, all I need out of it is a nice clean that can be loud, and that it can take effects well. Hopefully it is right for me!
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Ah, alright. I thought the Caliber line by EHX were solely poweramps. My bad. Regardless, you might want to look into an EQ pedal. There won't be a lot of tone shaping options available.
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Ah, alright. I thought the Caliber line by EHX were solely poweramps. My bad. Regardless, you might want to look into an EQ pedal. There won't be a lot of tone shaping options available.


Wait it might just be a power amp. If that was the case, what would I need to do? Like I said, I really only want it for cleans and then using pedals for everything else.
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Wait it might just be a power amp. If that was the case, what would I need to do? Like I said, I really only want it for cleans and then using pedals for everything else.

No it is the entire amp (pre and power) it just has very minimal controls.

Liadback is right though a EQ would probably be a good Idea if you don't already have one. There are video's on youtube that show what the .44 and the smaller .22 are capable of
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No it is the entire amp (pre and power) it just has very minimal controls.

Liadback is right though a EQ would probably be a good Idea if you don't already have one. There are video's on youtube that show what the .44 and the smaller .22 are capable of


I just checked the manuel on the Electro Harmonix page, this is what it said: "The 44 MAGNUM was designed with the guitar in mind and can be used alone, or with your favorite preamp driving the input to the 44 MAGNUM."
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I just checked the manuel on the Electro Harmonix page, this is what it said: "The 44 MAGNUM was designed with the guitar in mind and can be used alone, or with your favorite preamp driving the input to the 44 MAGNUM."


"Can be used alone" = its the ENTIRE amp. The second part of that setence simply means you can drive it harder with the addition of another preamp...
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"Can be used alone" = its the ENTIRE amp. The second part of that setence simply means you can drive it harder with the addition of another preamp...


Awesome, thanks!
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I have the HTV-212 - it sounds great with my Jet City JCA20 and Valve Jr. running side by side in stereo. Plenty loud, and it's actually relatively lightweight for a 212 cab.
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I think I am going to go with a Jet City Amplification JCA12S+ 1x12. I think a 1x12 is all I need, and I can get another if needed, thanks for all the help! Think it's the right choice?
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If you want a clean platform you might be disappointed. I can't imagine the Magnum having much clean headroom..


From what I've seem people say it breaks up anywhere from 12 to 3 o'clock, but most say it's loud enough at 9:00. I guess if it turns out to break up at a bad volume I could get another head, it's only $150 after all.
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You'd be better off looking for a used Crate Power Block. 150 watts of solid state pedal platform power.
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A Mesa V Twin pedal into a Crate Powerblock!! That would be a minimalist set up!!
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You'd be better off looking for a used Crate Power Block. 150 watts of solid state pedal platform power.


I was sorta drawn away by the Power Block for a couple of reasons.
-They aren't being made anymore, so I'd have to find one used (not that big of a deal).
-Stories where they've stopped working/malfunctioned on people multiple times.
-Not in a convenient format, like the 44 is, defeats the purpose of just adding it to a pedalboard or something.

I'd just buy a head if anyone could recommend a head with a good amount of clean headroom, can take pedals well, and would work well with a 1x12 (for now).
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Price range? I know you're trying to keep the cost down...
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Price range? I know you're trying to keep the cost down...


Hmm, well yeah Let's say $500 including the cab. But I'd like to hear suggestions over that limit that as well for down the line. I wouldn't mind spending extra if it was worth it for sure. I've always liked Orange but I couldn't afford it

My plan was to buy a cheapish amp setup, and then buildup a really nice pedalboard, then upgrade the amp.
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Oh man, with $500 you can get a solid combo amp. Any reason you want a head+cab vs. a combo? It's not really worth getting a 1x12 cab if you have $500 to spend on a nice combo!
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Oh man, with $500 you can get a solid combo amp. Any reason you want a head+cab vs. a combo? It's not really worth getting a 1x12 cab if you have $500 to spend on a nice combo!


No real reason haha, as long as it's lightweight. I jumped to a head+cab after seeing the 44. But I am open to anything!
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Budget? - $500 for now. Feel free to recommend stuff in the long run.

Genres? - I do play a lot, especially rock though. Grunge, alternative, 90's stuff, ska punk, etc. I don't really play metal, or classic rock too much. Occasionally, I'll play jazz. Definitely needs good cleans.

New or Used? - Either way is fine, but I prefer new. I don't want to deal with the hassle of talking to other people on craigslist, Ebay, and all that. I know that sounds ridiculous.

Home or Gig? - Practicing at home, and playing with a drummer when needed eventually.

Closest City? - Richmond, VA

Current Gear? - Gibson SG special, and Marshall MG/Roland Micro Cube. When I play with others, it's only acoustic :/
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Hmmm...well there are a few ways you could do this....

IF you go used you can get these:

For another $250 you can have this beast http://richmond.craigslist.org/msg/3554776927.html I have this and LOVE it. Great tones for days. Cleans, high, mid or low gain. All good.
This would be your best bet http://richmond.craigslist.org/msg/3497845237.html
Here's another good one http://richmond.craigslist.org/msg/3551343082.html
Another good amp if you can stretch it http://richmond.craigslist.org/msg/3534119059.html

And that's just a cursory glance.


The Richmond, VA Guitar Center just got an EHX .44 Magnum in. They're selling it second hand for $80. They also have a Crate Power Block for $100. They also have A TON OF OTHER STUFF.

I can't seriously go through all of it right now, but it looks like the Richmond GC has a wide selection of second hand amps. What are some bands' tones that you would love to emulate. Name your top 3.
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Hmmm...well there are a few ways you could do this....

IF you go used you can get these:

For another $250 you can have this beast http://richmond.craigslist.org/msg/3554776927.html I have this and LOVE it. Great tones for days. Cleans, high, mid or low gain. All good.
This would be your best bet http://richmond.craigslist.org/msg/3497845237.html
Here's another good one http://richmond.craigslist.org/msg/3551343082.html
Another good amp if you can stretch it http://richmond.craigslist.org/msg/3534119059.html

And that's just a cursory glance.


The Richmond, VA Guitar Center just got an EHX .44 Magnum in. They're selling it second hand for $80. They also have a Crate Power Block for $100. They also have A TON OF OTHER STUFF.

I can't seriously go through all of it right now, but it looks like the Richmond GC has a wide selection of second hand amps. What are some bands' tones that you would love to emulate. Name your top 3.


Hmm, well I like that dark, deep clean tones like Heart Shaped Box, or from 1979. At the same time, maybe something like RHCP. As far as distortion goes, something thick for rhythm, but clear for solos: Say it Ain't So, or Everlong. Maybe with a higher gain potential. But those are more of where I want to start but yeah.

I was originally going to invest in a nice distortion pedal like a Yeti by Tortuga Effects, or VFE. Another important thing is lightweight, I need to be able to manage it, so I was leaning towards a 1x12.
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Define lightweight...a good combo might be like 60 lbs. You could always use a dolly or a hand cart to move it around.

Pretty sure Heart Shaped Box and 1979 were both recorded with Fenders, but don't quote me on that. They also used chorus pedals to add that depth. Say it ain't so was a Big Muff and Everlong could have been either a Mesa Road King or an AC30 driven with a pedal. I forget...that might have also been some studio magic.

Honestly, I would look for a Fender to use as a pedal platform.
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Define lightweight...a good combo might be like 60 lbs. You could always use a dolly or a hand cart to move it around.

Pretty sure Heart Shaped Box and 1979 were both recorded with Fenders, but don't quote me on that. They also used chorus pedals to add that depth. Say it ain't so was a Big Muff and Everlong could have been either a Mesa Road King or an AC30 driven with a pedal. I forget...that might have also been some studio magic.

Honestly, I would look for a Fender to use as a pedal platform.


Sounds good, thanks for all the help!