pr0guitartabber
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I'm planning to learn Maj7, min7, Dom7 and Dim7 arpeggios.
How would you build your practice routine?
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Practice the CAGED system.

The theory of the CAGED system is that every chord has a seperate C, A, G, E and D shape.
You can play an A chord in the standard A shape, you can move a C shape up to the 12th fret, you can move an E shape to the 5th fret etc.

How I would practice this is, I just pick a random chord, for example: Cmaj7, then you look for the C, A, G , E and D shapes that make up a Cmaj7.
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I asked for a practice routine, not where do arpeggios derive from. Because I know that stuff
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I asked for a practice routine, not where do arpeggios derive from. Because I know that stuff


i'm about to jump through this computer and just bust your fucking face open if you think arpeggios come from the caged system
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Do you know how to do sweeps and play other arpeggios? Like simple major, minor and diminished sweeps? That is if you mean playing in a sweeping motion. Playing arpeggios doesn't necessarily mean sweeps.
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i'm about to jump through this computer and just bust your fucking face open if you think arpeggios come from the caged system


well, let me rephrase: playable arpeggio shapes are based on the caged system.

and a quote from justinguitar.com "Note that the bracketed letter is the CAGED shape that the arpeggio is derived from." on the page where he lists the arpeggio shapes

http://www.justinguitar.com/en/AR-001-Major7arp.php
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Do you know how to do sweeps and play other arpeggios? Like simple major, minor and diminished sweeps? That is if you mean playing in a sweeping motion. Playing arpeggios doesn't necessarily mean sweeps.


Yes I know some sweepable shapes but I don't intend to sweep my shapes. because I know that I still need to work on my alternate picking first.
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shapes aint shit but hoes and tricks
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shapes aint shit but hoes and tricks

So?
It's nice to have your harmony notes laid out for you by shapes rather than having to instantly recall all 3/4 notes of a (min/maj7)chord and having to find them everywhere.
When I hear a progression is Am7|C|F|G, the first thing that goes through my mind is find some shapes close to each other, rather than A C E G| C E G| F A D| G B D
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see i think in sounds because i don't suck and realize that any of the 12 available notes will be right next to me on the fretboard at all times
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see i think in sounds because i don't suck and realize that any of the 12 available notes will be right next to me on the fretboard at all times

And there is no possible way to combine shapes and thinking in sounds at the same time? Because I do that.
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Over minor chords, I tend to find it easier to superimpose maj7 and m7 arps from the 3rd and 5th chord tones to get m9 and m11 sounds respectively. Rather than learn a massive extended arpeggio.

just sayin'
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Over minor chords, I tend to find it easier to superimpose maj7 and m7 arps from the 3rd and 5th chord tones to get m9 and m11 sounds respectively. Rather than learn a massive extended arpeggio.

just sayin'


Yeah I know what you mean.

In reality I never use super extended arpeggios. But back then it really helped me learn the fretboard & w/ dexterity. Also helped improve my ear a bit learning where the extensions are relative to notes in the chord.

Lol, I don't think I can even do some of these super long extended arpeggios anymore, I always want to throw in other notes.
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if you know the 5 positions of the major scale, practice the arpeggios in each shape diatonically. Hope this helps
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When I hear a progression is Am7|C|F|G, the first thing that goes through my mind is find some shapes close to each other, rather than A C E G| C E G| F A D| G B D


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I'm planning to learn Maj7, min7, Dom7 and Dim7 arpeggios.
How would you build your practice routine?


I would build my routine like this ...

Start with CMaj7.

For 5-10 minutes play 1-octave arpeggios beginning with root-position arpeggios starting from the bottom E-string. Move my way methodically from root-position arpeggios to 3rd-inversion arpeggios. Move my way methodically from arpeggios starting on the bottom E-string to those starting on the top E-string. Alternate between playing arpeggios starting on the bottom note of the arpeggiated chord and arpeggios starting on the top note of the arpeggiated chord.

The next day move on to, e.g. FMaj7 and do the same.

Work my way methodically around the cycle of 4ths/5ths until I get back to where I started, then move onto 2-octave arpeggios and do the same. Then do 3-octave arpeggios.

There are other games you can play within these parameters, such as:

Add a metronome beat and the requirement to play the next note in the arpeggio on every metronome beat.

Start on the first note of the harmonised major or natural/harmonic/melodic minor scales. Each successive arpeggio will be on the next chord up in the scale until you reach the top, when you turn around and come back down. Or you can start at the 'top' of the scale and go down then back up.

As before but swap inversions on each successive chord (e.g. CMaj7, Dm7/F, Em7/B, FMaj7/E, ...); each time I get to the beginning of a new scale repeat shift the inversion pattern to the left (e.g. CMaj7/E, Dm7/A, Em7/D, FMaj7, ...).

Don't worry too much about progressing round the entire set of games I can play with this stuff. The point is to (a) increase my ability to find the correct note on the fretboard, (b) increase my ability to recall chords quickly, (c) learn to think on my feet.

Remember (and keep reminding myself when it's ****ing tedious and I'd really rather go do something else) that none of these these skills are acquired overnight, but by short amounts of daily practice.

Or I could just learn a bunch of arpeggio shapes and never quite feel like I'd mastered my instrument.
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