#1
So I've ordered a Laney IRT60h, and now I need a nice cab to go with it.

I'm sticking with a 2x12 for ease, and have narrowed it down to either;

Laney GS212ie
OR
Harley Benton G212 Vintage

I can't decide between the two;

HB - £160, Celstion V30s, 25kg

Laney - £215, Celestion seventy 80s, 21kg

The reason I've put the weight is because, for me, the lighter the better. And I kind of like the idea of a Laney quarter-stack. However, it's a good £50-60 more than the HB.

(this probably doesn't make much sense, for which, I apologise. I've just got home from a night shift and am a bit tired haha)

What do you guys think? What makes what the better choice, and why?
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#2
Seventy 80s suck BALLS. Get the Harley Benton if you really can't afford much else.

Alternatively, I could build you a tits cabinet for around £220
#3
How long would such a thing take? And with what speakers for that price???
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#4
Seventy 80's are shit. Your path is clear.
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#5
Thought as much
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#6
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How long would such a thing take? And with what speakers for that price???


The one in my sig has Eminence "The Govenors" which plus materials cost under £220. Could knock one up in a weekend

I can get Tayden speakers for pretty much half price though, I work with a friend of the owner. Not sure how highly regarded Taydens are though

/shamelessplug
#7
Never even heard of Tayden speakers if I'm honest...

It's kind of tempting tbh, what kinda specs we looking at? Finishes etc?
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#8
I buy all my parts from tube-town.de so Tolex and grill cloth wise, anything they stock (loads of shit).

Construction wise, I use 18mm birch ply all round with enough internal bracing to survice a nuclear holocaust. Check out the build in my sig.

Seriously though, if you want it in the next month id just get the Harley Benton, really hard to beat on price.

I may start a small operation building the odd bespoke cab at some point in the near future, for UG members (will need to check the rules first obviously)
#9
Yeah, I'd be looking for it in about a months time from now
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#10
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I can get Tayden speakers for pretty much half price though, I work with a friend of the owner. Not sure how highly regarded Taydens are though

/shamelessplug


they're awesome. or at least the ones i've tried are (high brit and great brit).
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I saw in a couple of pictures that on Bucketheads Les Paul (only some pictures) that his neck pickup is painted in white. Can anyone explain to me why he would do this, and if there are any pros and cons.

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#11
A High and Great Brit combo could be rather interesting, actually...
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#12
yeah i love that combo, i think if push came to shove that's my absolute favourite speaker combo.

they can be a little fizzy, though. I like fizz, but it's worth bearing in mind. I've also heard some people say they can sound a little thin.

I like them though. A lot. to my ears, the great brit sounds a bit like the 55Hz heritage celestion g12h30 (allowing for the fact the great brit is 75Hz- the 55Hz celestion does sound a bit deeper and has a looser bass). Which is pretty cool when you consider the heritage celestion is like £130 while the tayden is about £75 (less than the chinese-made g12h30).

the high brit doesn't really sound that like a greenback, though, to my ears. it's smoother and doesn't have the same bite in the treble. though it is a higher wattage version, and higher wattage versions (i think) have a tendency to do that. I think I've heard the creamback be described similarly (though I haven't tried it).

the combo's also cool in that it's good for 100 watts. From what i hear tayden rates conservatively like celestion, so that means they're actually good with a 100 watt tube amp. I haven't tried to test that myself, though, so it's at your own risk

and my usual caveats apply- i'm only playing at low volume and probably haven't broken the things in properly yet.
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I saw in a couple of pictures that on Bucketheads Les Paul (only some pictures) that his neck pickup is painted in white. Can anyone explain to me why he would do this, and if there are any pros and cons.

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The guy wears a KFC Bucket and a white mask during performances, and you're interested in the color of his pickup covers?

Last edited by Dave_Mc at Jan 22, 2013,
#13
Well, I've ordered the 60w Ironheart head, so a 100w speaker set-up is no problem for me.

Think I may get myself a Wesbanez Custom 2x12 in the future, with the Tayden combo. Really tickling my fancy is that
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#15
Oh no, I'm gonna NEED the HB cab. Can't afford (band wise) to be waiting for a few months until Wes can build me a cab. But, in the future, I'll be getting a tasty Wes-Cab to sit along side the HB
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#16
Is it an 8 ohm cab (ie two 16's in parallel)?
If so, save up a few extra dollars and get a 4x12 built. Then you wire up HB 2x12 as 32 ohm and sit it on top of the 4x12 running at 16 ohm. 3/4 stacks rock. Gets you up near full stack territory (I prefer it really) but sits the amp at an easy to get at height.



Edit. With the above arrangement you select 8 ohms on the amp. The load is actually 10 ohm but the 8 ohm setting will cope just fine.
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Last edited by Cathbard at Jan 23, 2013,
#17
I would do something like that, Cath, but I REALLY don't want to be lugging around a 2x12 AND a 4x12. Don't wanna be lugging a 4x12 AT ALL, if I'm honest haha

It would be pretty bad-ass though. But I don't think my back would like me for much longer... It's already pissed at me from lugging the 6505 combo around for so long haha
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#18
Buy a decent trolley (hand cart) and you don't have to lug shit, you just wheel it around.
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Yamaha SBG500
Telecasters
Randall RM100 & RM20
Marshall JTM45 clone
Marshall JCM900 4102 (modded)
Marshall 18W clone
Fender 5F1 Champ clone
Atomic Amplifire
Marshall 1960A
Boss GT-100


Cathbard Amplification
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#19
Stairs, my good man... Stairs!
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#20
Then you need a stairwalker trolley. Like this:

Gilchrist custom
Yamaha SBG500
Telecasters
Randall RM100 & RM20
Marshall JTM45 clone
Marshall JCM900 4102 (modded)
Marshall 18W clone
Fender 5F1 Champ clone
Atomic Amplifire
Marshall 1960A
Boss GT-100


Cathbard Amplification
My band
Last edited by Cathbard at Jan 23, 2013,
#21
Haha! An answer for everything eh?
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#22
Well, regardless, even if you only have the Ironheart and a 2x12 you need one. No serious muso should be without the equipment he needs - and that includes more than his guitar and amp. And once you're set up you can use whatever the **** you want.
We used to cart around bigger things than my 3/4 stack. Ever moved a W-bin around? You gotta set yourself up properly. If you have a few trollies kicking around it makes everything that much easier, esp at tear down stage when you're tired and worn out. **** carrying shit.
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Randall RM100 & RM20
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Marshall JCM900 4102 (modded)
Marshall 18W clone
Fender 5F1 Champ clone
Atomic Amplifire
Marshall 1960A
Boss GT-100


Cathbard Amplification
My band
#24
Wes-Cabs is the way forward
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#25
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Oh no, I'm gonna NEED the HB cab. Can't afford (band wise) to be waiting for a few months until Wes can build me a cab. But, in the future, I'll be getting a tasty Wes-Cab to sit along side the HB


yeah it's hard to go wrong with the harley benton if you like v30s. it's little more than buying two v30s at retail prices, lol.

plus it's front-loaded and uses spade connectors- it's built for super-quick speaker swaps, so you can try different speakers very easily and very close to each other (time-wise, i mean, you can swap two speakers in about 5 minutes) to hear the difference before you've forgotten what the first one sounded like. Added to the fact that the v30 pairs very nicely with several other speakers- g12t75, classic lead, g12h30, g12-65/wgs et65 (though i didn't like that one as much, but loads of people seem to)- and arguably sounds better combined than with v30s alone... even if you buy another speaker later to try you've probably still spent less than most other even half-decent 2x12 ply cabs with decent speakers.

yeah, it's hard to go wrong at the price, basically. that's not to say an ubercab or something like that won't sound better... but the hb does sound pretty good. And for all the cab cost (like, £10 or something silly when you subtract the cost of the speakers) even if you hate the cab it's not the end of the world.

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holy shit that's awesome.

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**** carrying shit.


agreed 100%
Quote by crownegamers
I saw in a couple of pictures that on Bucketheads Les Paul (only some pictures) that his neck pickup is painted in white. Can anyone explain to me why he would do this, and if there are any pros and cons.

Quote by dspellman
The guy wears a KFC Bucket and a white mask during performances, and you're interested in the color of his pickup covers?

Last edited by Dave_Mc at Jan 23, 2013,
#26
We shall see what occurs...
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#27
Quote by crownegamers
I saw in a couple of pictures that on Bucketheads Les Paul (only some pictures) that his neck pickup is painted in white. Can anyone explain to me why he would do this, and if there are any pros and cons.

Quote by dspellman
The guy wears a KFC Bucket and a white mask during performances, and you're interested in the color of his pickup covers?

#28
Just need to get my 6505+ 112 sold so I can find the cab!!!
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