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Well. It's an ESP, so it's gonna play like sex.
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damn that guitar is beauitiful. my only issue is that would only having a single pickup suit your needs?

i think if its a true ESP (and it is), it would beat out any schecter i have ever played.
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I play in a death metal band through a 6505 head so for most of my applications its spot on. I dabble in some bluesy and some rock/indie rock stuff at home and for that I'm in the market for a strat anyway. I've had an RR24 so it's not all too unfammiliar seems like a freaking sweet guitar!
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I haven't seen an SV like this before but it should have the "Thin U Neck Contour". Be advised, though that this neck contour falls into two different categories. One that is uniformly rounded toward the body, another is getting more shoulders and squared/flattens off toward the body. Since this is a neck-thu i think it is quite rounded uniformly. Best to ask the seller about this if you not sure.

This guitar no doubt belongs to the high-end segment. Quality and craftsmanship will be top-notch as all of ESP Standards. The only thing with this is the single pickup. You can mod the guitar with a push-pull knob to widen the sound just a little bit more but that's it.
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I dont have a problem with the u-neck I think. I have an ltd ex-400 and that has an u neck and it's sweet as shit
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I dont have a problem with the u-neck I think. I have an ltd ex-400 and that has an u neck and it's sweet as shit


Me neither at first. Then I got my Viper-1000 it surprised me with the non-uniform neck shape. Same neck profile but different. I prefer the profile of my Eclipse and H-1001 so much more.
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If you don't do this I will lose all respect for you and also punch you.

Seriously though, it's an ESP; at the very worst, you do the trade, and if you dislike it for whatever reason, you can sell it for a profit, buy another Schecter and repeat, or buy whichever other guitar you want.
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If you don't do this I will lose all respect for you and also punch you.

Seriously though, it's an ESP; at the very worst, you do the trade, and if you dislike it for whatever reason, you can sell it for a profit, buy another Schecter and repeat, or buy whichever other guitar you want.


Hahah Yes I will trade with him as soon as he decides. He will trade with me in a few days as long as no better offer comes his way.
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I highly doubt that he will be able to resell this guitar for any profit at all. To buy a guitar is easy. To sell it can be a lot of works.

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If he's agreed for a direct trade then by all mean go for it but I think he will demand some cash in between. The SV is worth around SEK8500 at the minimum and it would be quite unwise of him not to do so.

Will you trade it face to face or via postal service? Might want to be careful if it comes to posting it off.
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Quote by hminh87
I highly doubt that he will be able to resell this guitar for any profit at all. To buy a guitar is easy. To sell it can be a lot of works.

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If he's agreed for a direct trade then by all mean go for it but I think he will demand some cash in between. The SV is worth around SEK8500 at the minimum and it would be quite unwise of him not to do so.

Will you trade it face to face or via postal service? Might want to be careful if it comes to posting it off.


So far no talk about money inbetween and I don't even have a hardcase for mine. We are shipping it by buss I think. What's a good way to be cautious when dealing that way?
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Honestly, despite being a bit of a Schecter fanboy I'd say you're getting the better bargain out of this deal. I may be mistaken, but I believe the SV series is still relatively hard to come by these days, aren't they sold primarily in Japan and that side of the world?

You can definitely expect high quality, it's really a matter of specifications. Having just one pick-up can be either a detriment or incredibly useful depending on what you play, but it sounds like this is right in line with what you're looking for so I say go for it, seems like you're getting a better guitar out of the deal.
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It looks pretty good man. The only minor concern is the shape. It's not a shape for everyone, but if you're ok with it then why not?
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Duude, get that!!! Funnily enough the seller is in my town, hahah!
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This confuses me. I see a lot of calm rational responses in here...

Everyone here realizes that that ESP is a $2500+ guitar, right? And that Schecter is like $900?

And there's room for discussion here because.....?!
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Quote by Offworld92
This confuses me. I see a lot of calm rational responses in here...

Everyone here realizes that that ESP is a $2500+ guitar, right? And that Schecter is like $900?

And there's room for discussion here because.....?!



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Quote by Offworld92
This confuses me. I see a lot of calm rational responses in here...

Everyone here realizes that that ESP is a $2500+ guitar, right? And that Schecter is like $900?

And there's room for discussion here because.....?!


I dunno man... I think the depreciation on ESPs aren't that great. They cost a lot new, but they don't tend to make that money back on the used market. A guy on these forums recently got an ESP bass that was about 5 or 6 years old or something for £400.
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Prices are not always the same in every country, you know.


Yes, that is true... ESP prices are much lower and Schecter prices are much higher in the UK/EU, right?

I think my point still stands though... it's a ****in' ESP for a Schecter.

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I dunno man... I think the depreciation on ESPs aren't that great. They cost a lot new, but they don't tend to make that money back on the used market. A guy on these forums recently got an ESP bass that was about 5 or 6 years old or something for £400.


As I said above, the money doesn't even have to be the issue - just look at the straight up quality disparity. I honestly don't see how this is a debate.
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As I said above, the money doesn't even have to be the issue - just look at the straight up quality disparity. I honestly don't see how this is a debate.


Well you're not wrong there. As guitars, they are second-to-none. I'm just saying, don't expect to make a load of money off it.
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I know ESP are known for quality and guitars made in Japan are usually top notch but always nice to try to gather some more info as I havent played an ESP(only LTD)
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Quote by alex747
I know ESP are known for quality and guitars made in Japan are usually top notch but always nice to try to gather some more info as I haven't played an ESP(only LTD)


I think it's quite hard to explain just how meticulously built ESP guitars are. It's the little things you notice with these guitars, not something you can see from a picture on the internet.
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Quote by eddiehimself
I think it's quite hard to explain just how meticulously built ESP guitars are. It's the little things you notice with these guitars, not something you can see from a picture on the internet.


+311. You really have to experience it yourself. Same as any other brand too. People who think that ESPs or Gibsons or whatever are way overpriced and you're just paying for a name usually haven't spent a good amount of time with them. Yeah, I do think maybe they're a little too much, and you do pay for a name to a certain degree, but they are absolutely worth more than the budget Asian stuff.
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There is no way anyone in their right mind would trade that ESP for a Schecter.


I'd be very careful about this. The guy would be screwing himself over big time if he traded straight across.
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yeah something seems a bit odd about this...
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#26
Say that you will travel and you will trade face to face and wait for his answer. If he refuses then you'd better not do any deal.
He lives in Jönköping. IF you lives in the southern part of Sweden then the train ticket should not cost a lot. You might want to do that instead of relying on bussgod.
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thats a damn nice guitar, but the only flaw would be the single pickup. I wouldnt do it though if you cant try it out first. Save your money and then buy one, and then youll have 2 awsome guitars
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Quote by hminh87
Say that you will travel and you will trade face to face and wait for his answer. If he refuses then you'd better not do any deal.
He lives in Jönköping. IF you lives in the southern part of Sweden then the train ticket should not cost a lot. You might want to do that instead of relying on bussgod.



Face to face would be ideal but I live in Umeå so it's like 1000km away
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#29
Dude, I go through the place where the guitar was set up all the time, as matter of fact it's right next to my Gymnasium... How urgent is it? I could go in tomorrow and ask 'em if they could say anything about it. BTW anyone check the serials?

EDIT: Also, maybe ask for some more pics? He should be happy to oblige...
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Quote by StrykVladzimsky
Dude, I go through the place where the guitar was set up all the time, as matter of fact it's right next to my Gymnasium... How urgent is it? I could go in tomorrow and ask 'em if they could say anything about it. BTW anyone check the serials?

EDIT: Also, maybe ask for some more pics? He should be happy to oblige...


Dude that would be really great! I will ask for more pictures when he makes up his mind
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#31
No problem, man! You have no idea how amazing an actual ESP is, and if you get it you'll have made the deal of like I dunno, I lifetime?
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#32
You guys encouraging this guy are going to get him ripped off.

If something seems too good to be true, it usually is. DO NOT ship your guitar to this guy. The only way I would be willing to do a trade like this is if the other guy shipped me the guitar first. Unless you have the guitar in your hands, do not ship him anything.

I'd hate to see anyone on here get ripped off. Scams happen all the time on the internet and this one is throwing up some major red flags.
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#33
A domestic Japanese ESP in Sweden is pretty peculiar, I'll give you that.
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Quote by StrykVladzimsky
A domestic Japanese ESP in Sweden is pretty peculiar, I'll give you that.


From what I have gathered its for the European market aswell. I appreciate the words of caution I'll certainly consider every angle.
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#35
So I went into the shop today, and the guy was familiar with the guitar. He said nothing was out of the ordinary and it was from as far as he could tell a real ESP and that they set it up for standard C which is what the Blocket ad says. He said the real only way to be 100% Certain though is to send the serial to ESP. Makes sense.

EDIT: To quote some guy on sevenstring.org (Mtech) I found a useful nugget of info:
Newer ESP's work like this - ESP began the standard series line in the US in 2003 and hence began the "Standard Series" logo. The same year anything that was made in the custom shop had the "Custom Shop" logo, including all ESP signature guitars. The signature line logo then changed in 2006 to "Signature Series". There is a bit of confusion of what now is made in the custom shop and what is made in the signature series line. The easiest way to differentiate is if the serial number begins with "K", "T", "S", "N", they are custom shop. If the serial number begins with "SS", it was made at the signature/standard series line.
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So I went into the shop today, and the guy was familiar with the guitar. He said nothing was out of the ordinary and it was from as far as he could tell a real ESP and that they set it up for standard C which is what the Blocket ad says. He said the real only way to be 100% Certain though is to send the serial to ESP. Makes sense.

EDIT: To quote some guy on sevenstring.org (Mtech) I found a useful nugget of info:


That's awful kind of you to go through all that trouble! So from this we should be pretty sure that it's a genuine ESP?
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#37
No problemo, man I had to get me some new picks anyway, haha! I'd be pretty sure, has he(the trader) said anything about it yet or are you still waiting? I'd ask for more pictures for sure.
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Quote by StrykVladzimsky
No problemo, man I had to get me some new picks anyway, haha! I'd be pretty sure, has he(the trader) said anything about it yet or are you still waiting? I'd ask for more pictures for sure.


He said he would get back to me by next week so stoked! I'll ask for pictures if he wants to trade.
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#39
Quote by eddiehimself
I think it's quite hard to explain just how meticulously built ESP guitars are. It's the little things you notice with these guitars, not something you can see from a picture on the internet.


This is spot on. ESP's are fine pieces of work.
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