#1
Hey guys, so at the moment I have a Marshall MG 250FX. This is great for recording clean tones on, but distorted tones are bad: airy, hollow, thin etc.

A friend suggested that if I wanted to get ballsy distorted guitar tones when recording, I need to get a valve amp. Is this really true? I mean I am wanting to get guitar tones like in this song: When Animals Attack And I have tried switching up mic placement on the Marshall, but it's just not kicking it.

The same friend suggested I get a Blackstar HT-5 (I am limited on money I can spend on gear atm) for these sort of tones. Does anyone have experience of using this valve amp, especially for recording? Will 5 watts be enough for recording at home?

Thanks!
#2
What you need is a better amp. Really good amps tend to be tube, but that doesn't mean you have to have a tube amp or that only tube amps are good. Solid state gear tends towards the ends of the quality spectrum - either an MG or an Axe-Fx - so there aren't a lot of mid-range solid state amps. So you'll probably end up with a tube amp just based on what's available.

The Blackstar isn't a great amp, but 5 watts is more than enough for home recording. You can record with any wattage amp at all.

What's your budget? I'm sure lots of suggestions will follow. You might also consider a preamp solution like a POD, which isn't an amp at all but is quite a good recording tool.
#3
I'd use a HT-5 for slide and maybe punk but it is a bit lacking for most other things. It's certainly a step up from the MG but it isn't going to give you proper tube tone. They are, after all, a hybrid.

Read this and then come back with the answers to the questions it asks.
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1387138
Gilchrist custom
Yamaha SBG500
Telecasters
Randall RM100 & RM20
Marshall JTM45 clone
Marshall JCM900 4102 (modded)
Marshall 18W clone
Fender 5F1 Champ clone
Atomic Amplifire
Marshall 1960A
Boss GT-100


Cathbard Amplification
My band
#4
Quote by Cathbard
I'd use a HT-5 for slide and maybe punk but it is a bit lacking for most other things. It's certainly a step up from the MG but it isn't going to give you proper tube tone. They are, after all, a hybrid.

Read this and then come back with the answers to the questions it asks.
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1387138


Budget? - I would say £800 is the most I can spend atm.

Genres? - Stoner rock, bands such as: Kyuss, QOTSA, Slo Burn. Grunge, bands such as Nirvana, Pearl Jam.

New or Used? - Either.

Home or Gig? - Home, only for recording purposes.

Closest City? - London UK

Current Gear? - Marshall MG 250FX, SM57, Fender Jag, Indie Custom Guitar for drop tunings (requires batteries for pick ups)
#5
(Used) Orange Rocker 30 or Thunder 30 maybe?
Fender American Special HSS Stratocaster
Ibanez 1987 Roadstar II Deluxe
Yamaha THR10X
Marshall JCM900 SL-X
Ibanez WD-7 Weeping Demon Wah
TC Electronic Polytune
Seymour Duncan Tweakfuzz
#6
The Orange Tiny Terror comes immediately to mind.
Gilchrist custom
Yamaha SBG500
Telecasters
Randall RM100 & RM20
Marshall JTM45 clone
Marshall JCM900 4102 (modded)
Marshall 18W clone
Fender 5F1 Champ clone
Atomic Amplifire
Marshall 1960A
Boss GT-100


Cathbard Amplification
My band
#7
dude id sell you my JVM410h for £800 if you want.

its 100w all valve. will cover everything you want and more. just not amazing at super high gain stuff.
it might be a bit too much for home recording but will do it well.

the only other thing is that you would need a cab.


Quote by Cathbard
The Orange Tiny Terror comes immediately to mind.

or this...
My Rig:
Maverick F-1, Ibanez RG1527, Schecter Omen 8
Marshall JVM 410H,
Hand built 4x12 w/ V30s
Current board:
PXL LIVE
TU2
WHAMMY IV
MXR M132
MXR M101
TIMMY
NS2
MXR M108
XOTIC EP
TC DREAMSCAPE
DL8
#8
I own an HT-5 as my back up to my Sunn/Acoustic halfstack. It sounds great but to be honest if it is in your budget to spend more on something nice and top quality (eg. Orange Tiny Terror). If i could afford one of them i'd give my left leg for one. They sound beautiful. DEFINITELY GO TUBE IF YOU WANT GREAT QUALITY!
~My Gear~
68 Sunn Sorado
Acoustic 4x12
89 Epiphone LP Honeyburst
Boss ME-70

Fender Dreadnought Acoustic
Ibanez RG350DX
Blackstar HT-5R
Orange CR35LDX
Vox Tonelab ST
#9
Get a multifx. Most new ones have a USB recording interface. You can get great recorded tones.
#11
i'd recommend checking out a hard wired tiny terror if you have a bit more cash to play with, i think it's definitely a step up from the cheaper TT's