#1
My Guitar goes out of tune as I play it. I will tune it back, and it will go out of tune again.

This happens regardless if I have new strings that I have stretched fully or not.

Its a problem with live gigs, since I will have to tune after each song or it will go out of tune during a song.

Worst part, I spent 3,000 on my guitar! It shouldnt be doing this! I never really had the problem until the past year too.

Its a paul reed smith custom 24.
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Breedlove Atlas AD20
A bunch of pedals
#2
Sounds like a burr on the nut is a possibility. Just try touching up the string slot with some sandpaper, something around 400 grit(doesn't really matter as long as it gets the bur out).
#5
what type of bridge do you have?
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#6
A PRS cu24 going out of tune? thats like swearing in the church. I would probably check the locking tuners. something is wrong here.
#10
it has locking tuners..which confuses me.......
Current Gear

Bogner Uberschall
Mesa Dual Rectifier (Old Version)
Orange Closed Back 2x12 Cab with V30's
PRS Custom 24 Top 10 with 57/08 pickups
Schecter Hellraiser
Breedlove Atlas AD20
A bunch of pedals
#13
Quote by psychosylocibin
it has locking tuners..which confuses me.......

Dude you take my advise? Poor tuning stability doesn't necessarily mean that the tuner is at fault.
#14
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Graphite on the nut works wonders. Just rub a pencil through the slots.
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Last edited by Maximus_2005 at Feb 2, 2013,
#15
Are you tightening the thumb screws enough on the tuners? I've heard once before of this and that ended up being the issue.
#16
^dont even bother. if he really wanted help, he would have found the time to post back with any type of info or updates....
Jenneh

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#17
Quote by thehikingdude
Are you tightening the thumb screws enough on the tuners? I've heard once before of this and that ended up being the issue.



tried it, and still goes out of tune, but not as BAD.

Someone here mentioned that you have to string locking tuners differenty? I don't understand why it should matter, esp if you have such high compressive force on the string at one point nothing after that point should matter.
Current Gear

Bogner Uberschall
Mesa Dual Rectifier (Old Version)
Orange Closed Back 2x12 Cab with V30's
PRS Custom 24 Top 10 with 57/08 pickups
Schecter Hellraiser
Breedlove Atlas AD20
A bunch of pedals
#18
You string 'em differently because it's a different part that works differently. You don't stick F1 slick racing tyres on an off-road 4x4 car, do you?

The whole point of having locking tuners is that you don't need to worry about wrapping the string in such a way that it locks itself; the locking mechanism within the tuner does the locking for you. So you pull the string fairly tight, thread it through the tuner, lock it and tune to pitch; there should be less than one full wrap of string around the tuner. Usually just half a turn is all there should be. The less string you have wrapped around the tuner, the less the string can slip.

That said, most tuning problems with American PRS guitars seems to come down to the nut and bridge, because as nice as their hardware is, they're still using pretty standard nut materials and 6-screw design bridges.

Make sure the nut slots and bridge saddles are clear so the strings aren't snagging. Then take a good look at the bridge's movement, make sure that the bridge moves smoothly back and forth without raising up along the length of the screws.
If the nut slots or bridge saddles are worn and the strings are snagging there, replace 'em. If the bridge isn't moving against the screws smoothly, either somethign is shifted and it needs to be set up properly, or the bridge plate may be suffering a little wear and you need to replace that.
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#19
yes lube all string contact points,

but i feel like he's maybe wrapping around the tuners,
and might have an unbalanced bridge.

not sure because of his vague answers.
Jenneh

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#20
Quote by psychosylocibin
tried it, and still goes out of tune, but not as BAD.

Someone here mentioned that you have to string locking tuners differenty? I don't understand why it should matter, esp if you have such high compressive force on the string at one point nothing after that point should matter.


Not sure what bridge you have or even if its a tremelo, it shouldn't make much difference with a stop tail but if you got a trem system on there it's not gonna stay in tune for 5 minutes.
With locking tuners the max you should wind them should be 1.5 times at the most. Try restringing this way and see how much difference it makes first. I'm not that fermiliar with PRS guitars but if that doesn't work try the other stuff Mr Fibble said about, they're your other probable causes.
Last edited by Delboyuk_01 at Feb 5, 2013,
#22
Crazy Idea... tape a webcam on your nut facing your tuners... play a song - watch what you recorded.
Are the strings slipping?
Are the tuners turning?
???
#23
Not aware of saddle type, but if strat style make sure saddles are level (can get a slope easily with two adjustment screws.... slip into valley of fatigue and all). maybe a drop of machine oil on groove in each saddle? Other suggestions are all good too. This thread is for all of us, not just Mr PRS, so not total waste of time
#25
Unless I misunderstand the OP has no desire to string the tuners correctly so it's very difficult to help the guy.

Here's how it should look.
Last edited by thehikingdude at Feb 7, 2013,
#26
Quote by desperatechris
A PRS cu24 going out of tune? thats like swearing in the church. I would probably check the locking tuners. something is wrong here.


haha also mine had no ashtrays outside for smoke breaks during service. toss another butt into the trees...

if the nut checks out and you lube it, and the hardwear has no burrs in it.

do you play in a lot of different climates (70* house, 40* if you were to practice in a garage.

so basically does the guitar go from hot cold, etc.

i may have missed it, but is it a tremolo model? if so is the tremolo parallel with the body?
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