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MarkGraves98
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#41
Quote by Hail
oh my god hahahahhaahhahaha this sounds like motionless in white playing a gig in the star wars trash compactor hahahahhahhahhha

plus motionless in white are good
ProphetToJables
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#42
Right, but CGCFAD isn't C, it's drop C. And the tuning =/= the key of the song. If it did, almost every song you've ever heard would be in E.
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MarkGraves98
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#43
Quote by ProphetToJables
Right, but CGCFAD isn't C, it's drop C. And the tuning =/= the key of the song. If it did, almost every song you've ever heard would be in E.

meant drop C sorry
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#44
Still doesn't mean the song is actually in C.
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MarkGraves98
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#45
right guys i know that my theory is awful and my musical influences are mostly metalcore bands like Asking Alexandria, Motionless in white etc but would you please respect that i have only been playing guitar for 3 years and that on this forum i aint lookin for argument are any crap like that so yeah i might ask you for opinions on songs once in a while or questions about theory but please remeber you had to learn this stuff too once ! so all i ask for is good advice and help instead of arguments and crap like that !
ProphetToJables
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#46
Simmer down man, if you've only been playing guitar for 3 years don't come in saying you're this and that . UG can be brutal to newbies.

I;m actually trying to help you but I don't know what you should play if I don't know what key you're in.
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Hail
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#47
nobody's arguing we're just making fun of you

arguments need 2 sides to them
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MarkGraves98
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#48
Quote by ProphetToJables
Simmer down man, if you've only been playing guitar for 3 years don't come in saying you're this and that . UG can be brutal to newbies.

I;m actually trying to help you but I don't know what you should play if I don't know what key you're in.

i will send you a link of it so far so you can tell what key i am in
and ok just wanted people to know i aint ask crap of a guitaris as some people may think granted i aint a brilliant one either but still. Just uploadin it now and btw i havent properly recorded vocals so theres loads of places where there should be vocals
CelestialGuitar
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#49
Quote by MarkGraves98
right guys i know that my theory is awful and my musical influences are mostly metalcore bands like Asking Alexandria, Motionless in white etc but would you please respect that i have only been playing guitar for 3 years and that on this forum i aint lookin for argument are any crap like that so yeah i might ask you for opinions on songs once in a while or questions about theory but please remeber you had to learn this stuff too once ! so all i ask for is good advice and help instead of arguments and crap like that !


As said, you did come into here saying you do all this and that and apparently that was all we needed to know. Basically, you have poor theory knowledge, so first you must realise that your guitar being in Drop C does not make everything you write in the key of C. I play in D Standard, and I've written pieces in every key, so telling us your tuning does not help, so let's break it down to basics. What chords are you soloing over?
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MarkGraves98
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#50
Quote by CelestialGuitar
As said, you did come into here saying you do all this and that and apparently that was all we needed to know. Basically, you have poor theory knowledge, so first you must realise that your guitar being in Drop C does not make everything you write in the key of C. I play in D Standard, and I've written pieces in every key, so telling us your tuning does not help, so let's break it down to basics. What chords are you soloing over?

just the open 6th string in a certain pattern
ProphetToJables
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#51
You might want to throw in some other chords to make the solo melody a bit more interesting.
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Hail
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#53
please don't sweep if you don't know how to sweep.
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MarkGraves98
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#54
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please don't sweep if you don't know how to sweep.

i know how to sweep.
Hail
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#55
Quote by MarkGraves98
i know how to sweep.


then why wouldn't you record yourself sweeping instead of sloppily shitting all over the top 3 strings of your fretboard
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MarkGraves98
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#57
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then why wouldn't you record yourself sweeping instead of sloppily shitting all over the top 3 strings of your fretboard

Do i care what you think? erm no do i have to listen to you? once again no are you ever going to be something ? probaly not. bye bye.
Hail
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#58
Quote by MarkGraves98
Do i care what you think? erm no do i have to listen to you? once again no are you ever going to be something ? probaly not. bye bye.

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lol
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MarkGraves98
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#59
Thank you for your help everyone exept from you hail, your an asshole
CelestialGuitar
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#60
Quote by MarkGraves98
Do i care what you think? erm no do i have to listen to you? once again no are you ever going to be something ? probaly not. bye bye.


I have to admit he has a point, your sweep has some mistakes in it, and some timing errors, I'd recommend practicing your sweeping and not getting angry when people question your technique, it's valid, you need to improve, and I'd recommend practicing all kinds of sweeps properly, not just three string patterns, I've actually worked in Hardcore before, and a lot of bands use that exact same sweep at the exact same speed, if you practiced correctly and practiced all kinds of sweeps, in two or three years you could be blowing doors off, you just need to get rid of the attitude and actually listen to feedback.
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MarkGraves98
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#61
Quote by CelestialGuitar
I have to admit he has a point, your sweep has some mistakes in it, and some timing errors, I'd recommend practicing your sweeping and not getting angry when people question your technique, it's valid, you need to improve, and I'd recommend practicing all kinds of sweeps properly, not just three string patterns, I've actually worked in Hardcore before, and a lot of bands use that exact same sweep at the exact same speed, if you practiced correctly and practiced all kinds of sweeps, in two or three years you could be blowing doors off, you just need to get rid of the attitude and actually listen to feedback.

i completely understand but he could of been a little nicer about it not think?
CelestialGuitar
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#62
Quote by MarkGraves98
i completely understand but he could of been a little nicer about it not think?


Not at all, in the music business, people aren't going to sugarcoat it, an A&R guy won't say 'Ah, he's onto something, it's just he needs to improve on this and that and we might be able to salvage something', he'll say 'Shit, onto the next one.' You need a thick skin, and besides, if you know someone thinks you're terrible, that's extra incentive to prove them wrong.
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#63
You just need to get used to people in MT. People like Hail tend to say things pretty harshly. But usually what they say is right. You just need to get used to it and the comments won't feel that harsh any more.
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#64
well in light of the rest of this thread, i'll offer some advice because you remind me of a friend of mine who became so unbearable my roommate and i would hide our amps and guitars whenever he came over; played the exact same kind of music in the exact same way, labeled himself 28 sorts of musical titles none of which he could fulfill

the fact that you've played something a couple times or "produced" a song somewhere doesn't make you some multi-instrumentalist and producer in the same way that my making breakfast and shaving this morning don't make me a guitarist/chef/barber

spend more time looking up information and listening to feedback and less time trying to dabble in all sorts of things without serious focus and you'll see much better results, it may be tempting to tell girls at parties that you're a one-man band capable of producing his own album, but when that's your introduction here people are going to expect you to be amazing or (as is true for most people here) expect that you're mindlessly talking yourself up

lose the labels and spend your effort elsewhere
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#65
Ts called himself w, x, y and z and that's why he's being shat on???
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#66
Quote by Woffelz
Ts called himself w, x, y and z and that's why he's being shat on???


i admit that smiley went a little overboard. i might have done the same thing. i feel the same way he does -- only i don't really vocalize it because there's no way to say it without it being an attack. i'm known for having a sharp tongue, but i debate, not attack.

but smiley is right. there's a lot more to it, and that sort of attitude very often leads to complacency. and it's clear that TS is only at the very beginning of his journey. it's only detrimental to him to think that way.

besides, i can tell from his attitude and his submission that he needs quite a bit of work.

maybe he'll learn that he's not very good at what he does just yet, and that he's got a lot of work to do (and that it can be done).

or he'll take it as an insult, and remain a sloppy player and a poor musician for the rest of his life -- i notice that's actually quite a popular choice these days.
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#67
Quote by Woffelz
Ts called himself w, x, y and z and that's why he's being shat on???

my post hardly constitutes "shitting on" him or attacking him in some way, if i intended to shit on him you'd know it

as i pointed out, i see many of the same qualities that a person i know in real life possesses, and am trying to talk him away from turning into that via a series of meaningless labels
Hail
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#68
i'm just being mean because i wish people were mean to me when i thought i was the shit at 14 instead of being nice and being like 'oh, yeah, dude, you can sweep. uh. good job.'

it's not like it's unwarranted, your ego is never gonna be the one signing your paychecks
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CarsonStevens
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#69
Y'know, not to divert attention from the beating the OP is taking, but I listened to his track and thought it sounded better than most of the stuff I've done. I also play a bunch of instruments and have technically been at it longer than he has. So... is the only difference that I've never actually said I was the shit, or should I probably be thankful that I somehow avoided a similar thrashing when I first showed up?

I mean, srsly. I'm going to be releasing my first EP in the near future. If his music is terrible, I'm definitely bound for derision on a Rebecca Black-level scale.

Not intending a hijack, here. Just sayin'.
MarkGraves98
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#70
Quote by Hail
i'm just being mean because i wish people were mean to me when i thought i was the shit at 14 instead of being nice and being like 'oh, yeah, dude, you can sweep. uh. good job.'

it's not like it's unwarranted, your ego is never gonna be the one signing your paychecks

ok i understand now sorry for be4 dude
Morphogenesis26
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#71
Quote by Hail
i'm just being mean because i wish people were mean to me when i thought i was the shit at 14 instead of being nice and being like 'oh, yeah, dude, you can sweep. uh. good job.'

it's not like it's unwarranted, your ego is never gonna be the one signing your paychecks


This is so true. Everyone kept telling me how good I was so I developed an ego when I was around 16. It didn't help that my teacher was terrified at telling his students they messed up(he was a really bad teacher). I finally realized, hey, I suck and I need to fix it. So, it's been just this past year I've developed proper vibrato technique and bending notes into pitch out of 5 or 6 years of playing guitar.

TS, study as much as you can and practice correctly as much as you can and write as much as you can.
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#72
^^^ Yep I think we were all there at some point. You step back and go "hey this sounds like crap, I play out of time, can't bend to pitch, picking is too hard and not clean, I was so focussed on getting fast that it sounds like a jumbled mess".

And usually what happens to change your ways is a drunk walks up to you in a bar and tells you it sounds like crap, or you could fail an audition because you're crap.
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