karimbaig
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#1
I have to choose between one. I'm getting both the guitars at the same price new.
The standard is a plus top.
I have heard that the sound is not really different but the gold worns out very quickly.
I'd prefer black over anything when it comes to color
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#2
If they're the same price, then the custom...

At least the re sale value will be better.
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I have a standard plus top that I bought new in '93. It's my main guitar and I'm still very happy with it.
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#5
You've heard the sound is not really different?

Have you played them to find out for yourself? That is the only way you can decide which you prefer.
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They are exactly the same guitar, except for the finish. With a Plus Top you are paying extra for the flame maple veneer and with the Custom you're paying extra for the cheap, gold-coloured hardware which will most certainly tarnish and rub off within a couple of months. They're pretty guitars, but there is no reason to buy one over a regular Standard, at least in terms of build quality and sound. If you want a black Les Paul, the regular Standard comes in black and will be cheaper than either the Custom or Plus Top versions.
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#7
Quote by karimbaig
I have to choose between one. I'm getting both the guitars at the same price new.
The standard is a plus top.
I have heard that the sound is not really different but the gold worns out very quickly.
I'd prefer black over anything when it comes to color


Get the Tribute Plus !

probably less than a Custom (500 Euro / 600 USD)

Gibson pickups and hardcase included
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The Tux is the best LP that Epiphone makes, and is usually the starting place for Artist Models like Zakk Wylde's, which is upgraded with EMG pickups and fancy finish.

I had my Epiphone Les Paul Custom Pro, Alpine White with Gold Hardware, it looked better than my current Gibson Studio ALP White w/Gold, because the Epi had the bindings and just had classly looks like the real Gibson Custom Shops. I mean the finish on it was amazing, and the gold plated look just made it so fun to play. I loved that guitar, it just had the whole package for import guitar, just like Gibson Custom's have the whole package for USA guitars.


I compared recordings from the two using all the same settings etc, You get a good recording with the Custom Pro and its ProBuckers, its just when you hear the Gibson Studio it has a slightly more brighter tone to it with its 490/498's, but it isn't that much of a difference, and if you add any effects it can make it up. Of course it was a $1400 guitar compared to a $550ish guitar(retail prices of course). Even then, the ProBuckers were sufficent enough for me, I only jumped on the Gibson Studio cause I got it for $1000 out the door.


When it comes down to it, price/performance is unbeatable at the Custom Pro's price.

I guess what I am saying is, the standard is just fine, but if you have the money and really want something that looks better and has little bit better pickups, go for the Custom Pro.
Last edited by RyanStorm13 at Feb 13, 2013,
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#9
Quote by paruwi
Get the Tribute Plus !

probably less than a Custom (500 Euro / 600 USD)

Gibson pickups and hardcase included



Well if were talking any Epiphone, right now those Tribute Plus's are unbeatable. I mean 57 Gibson pickups are hott and heavy...and I read the case isn't Great Gibson quality, but still nice.


It also has a better finish: Hard maple cap and AAA flame maple veneer. I mean $50 more dollars for the Tribute Plus compared to the Custom Pro! This is really worth it if you got the money, that finish alone makes up the $50, let alone the pickups which I think go for $160 a piece.

I would love one in a Faded Cherry Burst...this guitar is more near being a real gibson, and doesn't just look like one, like the Custom Pro.

Also right now you get those free EGi cables with a purchase in Feburary, its like a hookup to your iPad. The only problem with this guitar, I haven't seen one in store ever, you would have to order online unless your lucky and have one at your GC.
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uziyourillusion
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#12
its a friggin steal, if i hadnt just got myself an MIJ Epiphone LQ Custom I'd already have it
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#14
It comes standard with Gibson USA pickups and its B stock because of two tiny dents..gonna get that anyway with any used guitar.
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^That Epi Elitist is by far the best deal you'll find for that price range. In fact I don't think I've seen one quite that cheap before. Hell, it's rare they come up for sale at all, most peopel that get one never want to part with them. Epiphone Elite and Elitist guitars are, for all intents and purposes, Gibson Les Paul Standards but with a poly finish instead of a nitro one.
If you can afford to buy that Elitist then there is absolutely no reason to look twice at anything else.

edit: in fact god damn, if they weren't only shipping within America, I would buy that myself, right now.

Quote by RyanStorm13
The Tux is the best LP that Epiphone makes,
No it's not. Epiphone's 'Customs' are the same bodies, necks, hardware and electronics as the Standard and Studio models. When it comes to Epiphone, 'Studio' simply means it has no binding, 'Standard' means it has a solid finish and chrome/nickel hardware, 'Custom' means it has a solid finish and gold-coloured hardware and 'Plus'/'Plain'/'Quilt' means it has a transparent finish with a prettier veneer applied over the usual maple; 'Pro' simply denotes the ProBucker pickups and coil split switches.
In terms of objective quality, there is absolutely no difference. The ''best'' LP that Epiphone make or has made are the Elite/Elitist line, which are made in Japan using much, much nicer wood, hardware and electronics. Second to those would be the Korean-made limited editions, which have featured all sorts of aftermarket pickups, hardware, different body construction methods and other upgrades. The production line—which includes the Custom and the Pro variants—are all the same, middle-of-the-road guitars churned out in their thousands.

Now, that is not to say that they can not be good guitars or that you shouldn't enjoy owning one. I've got a Epi Studio sat here that I like just as much as my Korean Epiphones, which in turn I enjoy just as much as my previous Gibson Custom Shop LP. There's nothing wrong with production Epiphones. Just don't go around saying that any of them are in any way better than other models or that there's any kind of hierarchy to them, because there simply isn't. Strip away the paint and they're all the same guitar.
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Quote by uziyourillusion


I would go this route to, or just try to find something used in your area. The newer Epiphones in stores are all being pumped out of China. If you look around you can find an older one like the elitist or other epi stuff that is MIK or MIJ which is IMHO going to be higher quality.
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#17
If I was shopping for an Epi There are 2 guitars I would look at. The Tribute Plus and the Bonamassa. But, you can buy a Gibson for the money you'd spend on the Epi.
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#18
Quote by Robbie-G
I would go this route to, or just try to find something used in your area. The newer Epiphones in stores are all being pumped out of China. If you look around you can find an older one like the elitist or other epi stuff that is MIK or MIJ which is IMHO going to be higher quality.


Not all from China,

Indonesia and Korea, too
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I live in Pakistan. ebay is not available here
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Quote by paruwi
Not all from China,

Indonesia and Korea, too


I don't think they're making Epi's there anymore, I could be wrong but I think they are all being made in China now.
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#21
Some Epis still get made in Korea. I was surprised, too. Epiphone made a big deal out of moving all their production to China and having a dedicated factory that only made their products and not sharing with anybody else, but I've personally found four Epiphones made in the last two years that are stamped as having come from Korea (LP Ultra II, ES-339 Ultra, one of the Wilshire models, though I forget which it was specifically, and one of the Royale guitars) and have heard tales of a few others cropping up.

Equally though, all the models that have shown to be made in Korea have also come up with China stamped on them, so who knows. Maybe they still go to Korea when there's great demand, or maybe the Chinese factory had some sort of issue that meant they had to go elsewhere, or maybe it's a marketing thing to get a few nicer guitars out there so people will think the brand is nicer, while still having the majority of guitars come out of somewhere cheaper. Who knows
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#22
Quote by Robbie-G
I don't think they're making Epi's there anymore, I could be wrong but I think they are all being made in China now.


Sorry, You are wrong..

The biggest part of Epis are made in their two own factories in QingDao, China

Many of the lower priced Models, most of their Acoustics and even the Materbilt series are made at the Samick plant in Indonesia

Most of the big Jazz boxes like Broadway and Emperor Regent have been made at Unsung plant, Korea for the last years
there have been 'regular' LP Customs, Sheratons, Lucilles, SG-400s made at Unsung during the last years, too
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#24
Quote by MrFlibble
No it's not. Epiphone's 'Customs' are the same bodies, necks, hardware and electronics as the Standard and Studio models. When it comes to Epiphone, 'Studio' simply means it has no binding, 'Standard' means it has a solid finish and chrome/nickel hardware, 'Custom' means it has a solid finish and gold-coloured hardware and 'Plus'/'Plain'/'Quilt' means it has a transparent finish with a prettier veneer applied over the usual maple; 'Pro' simply denotes the ProBucker pickups and coil split switches.
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Now, that is not to say that they can not be good guitars or that you shouldn't enjoy owning one. I've got a Epi Studio sat here that I like just as much as my Korean Epiphones, which in turn I enjoy just as much as my previous Gibson Custom Shop LP. There's nothing wrong with production Epiphones. Just don't go around saying that any of them are in any way better than other models or that there's any kind of hierarchy to them, because there simply isn't. Strip away the paint and they're all the same guitar.


Actually, there are some differences. My Studio has a much smaller channel for the switch wiring than any of my other Epi's, and I've noticed other minor differences between them inside (slightly better routing jobs, longer neck tenons on some, etc.). The Studio also had some crappy Kluson style tuners that got swapped out immediately.

But the overall guitar is about the same if you take the hardware out of the equation.
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#25
I have an Epi LP Standard and Custom, I prefer the standard miles over the Custom, the custom doesnt feel as alive (for want of a better word) in my hands and actually hurts my fingers probably because of the action height... The Standard is set up lower.
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#26
Quote by dazza027
I have an Epi LP Standard and Custom, I prefer the standard miles over the Custom, the custom doesnt feel as alive (for want of a better word) in my hands and actually hurts my fingers probably because of the action height... The Standard is set up lower.

That's just down to the setup. They are literally the same guitars with more binding on the custom.
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#27
The Standard is 14 years older and made in a different country to the Custom. Its about a kg lighter as well.
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#28
Quote by ProphetToJables
If they're the same price, then the custom...

At least the re sale value will be better.


I don't get why resale value is always the first thought. If you're not sure if this is the guitar for you, wait until you are sure.
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#29
Quote by MrFlibble
They are exactly the same guitar, except for the finish. With a Plus Top you are paying extra for the flame maple veneer and with the Custom you're paying extra for the cheap, gold-coloured hardware which will most certainly tarnish and rub off within a couple of months. They're pretty guitars, but there is no reason to buy one over a regular Standard, at least in terms of build quality and sound. If you want a black Les Paul, the regular Standard comes in black and will be cheaper than either the Custom or Plus Top versions.


There is also coil-taps on the plus top pro. That could be a factor in the decision as well.
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