Crimson.King
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I'm in the middle of replacing the pickups on my 2011 Epi LP Custom with a Gibson Dirty Fingers and a Gibson 496-R and have a question. The 4 conductor shielded pickup wires from the new pickups are about twice as long as the ones I'm replacing. Does it matter if I leave them that length or should I trim them down to the smallest length possible? Is it best to make the wires as short as possible or does it really have no effect on the pickups output/sound? Thanks.

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Dave_Mc
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don't quote me on this but i'd probably try to leave them long on the basis that that's as close to stock as possible, and if you trim them really short you might have trouble selling them again. most s/h pickup adverts i see normally say something like "plenty of wire left" if that tells you anything.
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that too
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I saw in a couple of pictures that on Bucketheads Les Paul (only some pictures) that his neck pickup is painted in white. Can anyone explain to me why he would do this, and if there are any pros and cons.

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Crimson.King
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I guess my real question is, should you keep the wires in the volume/pot cavity as short as possible? In addition to the pickups, the wires between the tone pots and push/pull volume pots are very long. Does having these extra long wires degrade the output signal?
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Unless you have like 50ft. of wire, you will not lose signal quality, and even then it most likely would not be noticeable
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Quote by Crimson.King
I guess my real question is, should you keep the wires in the volume/pot cavity as short as possible? In addition to the pickups, the wires between the tone pots and push/pull volume pots are very long. Does having these extra long wires degrade the output signal?


if you cared that much i daresay a buffer in your guitar would be more useful than worrying about a teeny bit of extra wire inside your guitar. after your pickups' wire the signal has to go down 10ft (at least) of guitar cable before it hits anything to help out with driving a long cable run. worrying about the amount of wire in the guitar while not worrying about the much, much bigger amount of cable coming after the guitar is kinda like missing the wood for the trees.

I think, anyway
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I saw in a couple of pictures that on Bucketheads Les Paul (only some pictures) that his neck pickup is painted in white. Can anyone explain to me why he would do this, and if there are any pros and cons.

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The guy wears a KFC Bucket and a white mask during performances, and you're interested in the color of his pickup covers?

Crimson.King
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The reason for my question was that I just dropped good money on the new high output PU's and wanted to make sure I was sending the strongest signal possible to the output jack.

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Quote by Crimson.King
The reason for my question was that I just dropped good money on the new high output PU's and wanted to make sure I was sending the strongest signal possible to the output jack.

Thanks


If you wanna do that, bypass your pickup selector, tone and volume pots altogether and do a direct-to-output installation. Your pots and selector would have more capacitance than the length of conductor wires from your pickup.
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Crimson.King
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If you wanna do that, bypass your pickup selector, tone and volume pots altogether and do a direct-to-output installation. Your pots and selector would have more capacitance than the length of conductor wires from your pickup.


Funny you mention that, but I wired the bridge pickup (Gibson Dirty Fingers) to bypass the tone control. I really only use 3 PU settings:

1) Neck PU tone=0
2) Bridge PU tone=10
3) Bridge PU coil split, tone=10
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Quote by Crimson.King
The reason for my question was that I just dropped good money on the new high output PU's and wanted to make sure I was sending the strongest signal possible to the output jack.

Thanks


oh no that's fair enough- I was just saying it's probably not worth worrying about (or if it is there are other areas to worry about more, such as the lack of a buffer in your guitar, or bypassing the tone controls etc. as ragingkitty said).
Quote by crownegamers
I saw in a couple of pictures that on Bucketheads Les Paul (only some pictures) that his neck pickup is painted in white. Can anyone explain to me why he would do this, and if there are any pros and cons.

Quote by dspellman
The guy wears a KFC Bucket and a white mask during performances, and you're interested in the color of his pickup covers?