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crazysam23_Atax
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#41
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i'm just gonna wrap it up by saying yeah you don't have to be a punx scholar to distinguish converge from trivium or whatever, that wasn't my point.

Well, thank goodness!

'genres' are tools of communication and they're nebulous things. say 'numetalcore' in the real world (or 'metallic hardcore' for that matter) and you'll probably have to explain yourself.

I have no issue with that actually. I usually don't bother to use terms like that unless I know enough about the person to know that they might know what I'm talking about. Now, if I do have to explain it; fine, it's no big deal.

the whole conflict ain't about being 'right' or 'knowledgeable', it's about havin' class.

Ok...fair enough. Though, that kiss was kind of creepy...





lolmnt
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#42
How can a bunch of people on a GUITAR forum not recognize the Black Flag logo?
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#43
Quote by element4433
How can a bunch of people on a GUITAR forum not recognize the Black Flag logo?


The extent of my Black Flag knowledge:

Henry Rollins,

the end.
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theogonia777
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#44
Quote by element4433
How can a bunch of people on a GUITAR forum not recognize the Black Flag logo?


Well, it is a guitar forum, so I would assume that people would listen to music that actually has competent guitar playing... ie not Black Flag.
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Shut the mother#%$& up, $^%got. You have a #$%^ing terrible muther&@$#ing taste in %#$@ing music, @&%$ing movies and %&$#ing video games. Every time I see you on the forums, you are always saying something overrated and some $@&#ing sh*t. You are just mother$^@%ing ignorant as a whole.

Get a #%$@ing life or you will get banned for life.


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#45
Quote by theogonia777
Well, it is a guitar forum, so I would assume that people would listen to music that actually has competent guitar playing... ie not Black Flag.


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#46
Black Flag is probably the most punk rock band out there
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#48
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It's punk rock but, like, really super.


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Aotnoe
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#49
I love when people get into arguments about subgenres that don't exist outside of the actual arguments themselves.

Genre discussions always make me laugh. Get over your semantics and just listen to music.

As for the OP, I suggest black ripped denim undershorts.
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theogonia777
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#50
Quote by Aotnoe
I love when people get into arguments about subgenres that don't exist outside of the actual arguments themselves.

Genre discussions always make me laugh. Get over your semantics and just listen to music.


Yeah, let's just call all music rock, since it's not like it sounds different in any way.
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Shut the mother#%$& up, $^%got. You have a #$%^ing terrible muther&@$#ing taste in %#$@ing music, @&%$ing movies and %&$#ing video games. Every time I see you on the forums, you are always saying something overrated and some $@&#ing sh*t. You are just mother$^@%ing ignorant as a whole.

Get a #%$@ing life or you will get banned for life.


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Kristen is very open-minded; believes that everyone is entitled to her opinion...


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omg its better than i imagined... so dark and cozy and warm...


Read this please. This as well.
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#51
clothing lines are the least punk thing ever

op is most certainly a faggot
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#52
Quote by Aotnoe
I love when people get into arguments about subgenres that don't exist outside of the actual arguments themselves.

Genre discussions always make me laugh. Get over your semantics and just listen to music.

As for the OP, I suggest black ripped denim undershorts.

and this guy

i dont like him either
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Aotnoe
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#53
Quote by theogonia777
Yeah, let's just call all music rock, since it's not like it sounds different in any way.


I never said anything about calling all music rock. Distinctions are important, minutia isn't. There isn't really any reason to have 75 different kinds of "Hardcore" just because one band records lo-fi and another has two basses.

Obviously I'm exaggerating, but the point is the same.
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theogonia777
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#54
Quote by Aotnoe
There isn't really any reason to have 75 different kinds of "Hardcore" just because one band records lo-fi and another has two basses.


No, but there is reason to have 75 different kinds of hardcore because they are distinct styles of music.

And I'm not exaggerating.
Quote by Hal-Sephira
Shut the mother#%$& up, $^%got. You have a #$%^ing terrible muther&@$#ing taste in %#$@ing music, @&%$ing movies and %&$#ing video games. Every time I see you on the forums, you are always saying something overrated and some $@&#ing sh*t. You are just mother$^@%ing ignorant as a whole.

Get a #%$@ing life or you will get banned for life.


Quote by Arby911
Kristen is very open-minded; believes that everyone is entitled to her opinion...


Quote by NirvanaLuvr16
omg its better than i imagined... so dark and cozy and warm...


Read this please. This as well.
Aotnoe
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#55
Quote by theogonia777
No, but there is reason to have 75 different kinds of hardcore because they are distinct styles of music.

And I'm not exaggerating.


I'm just not a fan of dividing music based on inconsequential differences. If I ask what kind of music a band plays and you tell me "Mathcore", I'm going to know what you mean.
But if you tried to explain the difference between "Deathcore" or Grindcore, or Deathgrind, or what have you, I'd just tell you that they're different levels of similar styles.
Its the multiple crossover stuff I have a problem with. Specificity is nice, but you can definitely get too fine in describing something.
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theogonia777
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#56
Quote by Aotnoe
But if you tried to explain the difference between "Deathcore" or Grindcore, or Deathgrind, or what have you, I'd just tell you that they're different levels of similar styles.


Deathcore and grindcore are completely unrelated subgenres.

It seems that you're not a fan of differentiating between specific and distinct types of music because you're unable to do it yourself.
Quote by Hal-Sephira
Shut the mother#%$& up, $^%got. You have a #$%^ing terrible muther&@$#ing taste in %#$@ing music, @&%$ing movies and %&$#ing video games. Every time I see you on the forums, you are always saying something overrated and some $@&#ing sh*t. You are just mother$^@%ing ignorant as a whole.

Get a #%$@ing life or you will get banned for life.


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Kristen is very open-minded; believes that everyone is entitled to her opinion...


Quote by NirvanaLuvr16
omg its better than i imagined... so dark and cozy and warm...


Read this please. This as well.
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#57
Quote by Aotnoe
I'm just not a fan of dividing music based on inconsequential differences. If I ask what kind of music a band plays and you tell me "Mathcore", I'm going to know what you mean.
But if you tried to explain the difference between "Deathcore" or Grindcore, or Deathgrind, or what have you, I'd just tell you that they're different levels of similar styles.

because you don't know those genres

just like people that don't listen to metal don't understand the difference between death metal and black metal, and people that don't like electronic don't know the difference between house music and trance
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theogonia777
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#58
Quote by Burgery
because you don't know those genres

just like people that don't listen to metal don't understand the difference between death metal and black metal, and people that don't like electronic don't know the difference between house music and trance


And even more specific stuff. People that don't listen to trance wouldn't know the difference between uplifting trance, tech trance, acid trance, dream trance, goa, etc. Yet anyone that is familiar with trance music could certainly differentiate between the various styles. In fact, astute listeners can spot regional trends within the music and could possibly tell you the country, or even city, of origin of the music simply by listening to it.
Quote by Hal-Sephira
Shut the mother#%$& up, $^%got. You have a #$%^ing terrible muther&@$#ing taste in %#$@ing music, @&%$ing movies and %&$#ing video games. Every time I see you on the forums, you are always saying something overrated and some $@&#ing sh*t. You are just mother$^@%ing ignorant as a whole.

Get a #%$@ing life or you will get banned for life.


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Kristen is very open-minded; believes that everyone is entitled to her opinion...


Quote by NirvanaLuvr16
omg its better than i imagined... so dark and cozy and warm...


Read this please. This as well.
Aotnoe
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#59
Quote by theogonia777
Deathcore and grindcore are completely unrelated subgenres.

It seems that you're not a fan of differentiating between specific and distinct types of music because you're unable to do it yourself.


To be fair, I only know them by name, not by sound.
And honestly, this is the part of the conversation where I slowly realise that there is merit to many of the distinctions, but refuse to admit it because I've dug myself a hole caused by my first visceral reaction to obnoxious genre names like "NuMetalCore".

That being said, No u r wrong. I am to much smarter for you to understand.

Edit: That being said, I still don't like indepth genre distinctions on a personal level.
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theogonia777
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#60
Quote by Aotnoe
That being said, I still don't like indepth genre distinctions on a personal level.


That's cool as long as you are willing to accept that they are often highly necessary for many applications.
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Shut the mother#%$& up, $^%got. You have a #$%^ing terrible muther&@$#ing taste in %#$@ing music, @&%$ing movies and %&$#ing video games. Every time I see you on the forums, you are always saying something overrated and some $@&#ing sh*t. You are just mother$^@%ing ignorant as a whole.

Get a #%$@ing life or you will get banned for life.


Quote by Arby911
Kristen is very open-minded; believes that everyone is entitled to her opinion...


Quote by NirvanaLuvr16
omg its better than i imagined... so dark and cozy and warm...


Read this please. This as well.
kaptink
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#61
Quote by theogonia777
Well, it is a guitar forum, so I would assume that people would listen to music that actually has competent guitar playing... ie not Black Flag.



crazysam23_Atax
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#62
Quote by Aotnoe
I love when people get into arguments about subgenres that don't exist outside of the actual arguments themselves.

Genre discussions always make me laugh. Get over your semantics and just listen to music.

As for the OP, I suggest black ripped denim undershorts.

The problem is that if we didn't divide into all these little subgenres (and sub-subgenres in some cases), then they'd be no way to say, "This band sounds different than that." For instance, if someone says, "Hey, I want to listen to some Metal"...well, that's very vague to a guy like me (who loves a lot of different subgenres of Metal). Is that someone saying they want to hear some Death Metal or some Black Metal or some traditional Heavy Metal? Subgenres allow you to be more specific.


It's fine if you don't like using subgenres, but they have their uses. And people should really learn what is and is NOT within a certain subgenres. The reason we have so many different subgenres is because music is NOT a static thing; people are constantly making new music. Sometimes that new music doesn't fit within what's already been done, so we need a new subgenre. It's that simple.
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#63
Quote by MerkelXD
I want to start a clothing line thats like, super punk rock. Anyone know where to start?



Yes, you could start by designing some super punk rock clothes.
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#64



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