harrisonatsix
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Hi,

For some reason my Vox AC30 C2 has become extremely trebley. This morning I plugged in with my normal guitar into my board into the amp and everything had far too much high end, I tried plugging directly into the amp but still no luck.

I then went on to try eqing the amp again but even with the bass up all the way, no treble and half the tone cut it was really harsh and icepicky.

The only change since yesterday is I added a big muff tone wicker and mxr noise clamp to my board, but I know this isn't the fault since it still happens when I plug directly to the amp, and I had the pot on my neck pickup changed due to the last one being faulty, however I doubt this is the problem as it is mainly noticeable on the neck pickup.

Anyone have any idea what may be causing this and how to fix it?
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Any extra preamp tubes you can switch in 1 at a time?
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If it has only been happening this morning and it's fairly subtle then it is entirely possible you have some sinus stuff causing your perception to change, despite no actual change in the amp. I have 'bad days' for guitar where nothing sounds right and it just can't possibly be my gear... I've concluded that ENT type stuff going on is the culprit... But then again, maybe I'm crazy.
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have you checked the connections or tried a different cable?
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If it has only been happening this morning and it's fairly subtle then it is entirely possible you have some sinus stuff causing your perception to change, despite no actual change in the amp. I have 'bad days' for guitar where nothing sounds right and it just can't possibly be my gear... I've concluded that ENT type stuff going on is the culprit... But then again, maybe I'm crazy.


I don't think you're crazy. I have the same thing going on right now. My tone is changing as my ears are popping.
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I don't think you're crazy. I have the same thing going on right now. My tone is changing as my ears are popping.

first i was thinking Preamp tube going nuts....but then i know what both of you mean thats crazy i never thought of that. Interesting. try yawning or take a hot shower and come back see what happens. That normally helps a bit but the tinnatus still comes in and kills the highs.
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stop scaring him, guys!
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stop scaring him, guys!


I didn't mean hearing damage, I'm getting over a cold and my head is all stuffy and its certainly affecting my hearing.

I'm hoping its gone by Monday when new amp gets here.
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I didn't mean hearing damage, I'm getting over a cold and my head is all stuffy and its certainly affecting my hearing.

I'm hoping its gone by Monday when new amp gets here.

Yeah me to....but i have tinaitus so when i do get a cold it sucks worse. And I'm ADD so i forget alot of key details when typing. it hap...
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My ears are big enough as it is, thank you.
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That might be something to do with it as I did have mild tinnitus after a gig on Wednesday, I'll try it again now and see if it's changed at all
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Tinnitus isn't something you get after a gig...it's the degredation of your hearing...
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Tinnitus isn't something you get after a gig...it's the degredation of your hearing...

Yes but the loud noise at gigs can cause this degradation, unfortunately I was stupid and forgot my earplugs that evening and I was left with the consequences.
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Tinnitus isn't something you get after a gig...it's the degredation of your hearing...

False. It's just the technical term for 'ears ringing.'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinnitus
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That might be something to do with it as I did have mild tinnitus after a gig on Wednesday, I'll try it again now and see if it's changed at all

Yeah LaidBack is right. Tinitus is damage that never goes away. After you play a gig your ears ring and then it goes away. But unlike me that ringing never stops....WEAR YOUR DAMN EAR PLUGS!!!! They make them for a reason. And i dont wanna hear the same ol excuse " Well i cant hear anything....meh" Then get better earplugs.... Dont wear and get all stage volume?...or save hearing damage and annoying ringing for the rest of your days?......
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Yeah LaidBack is right. Tinitus is damage that never goes away. After you play a gig your ears ring and then it goes away. But unlike me that ringing never stops....WEAR YOUR DAMN EAR PLUGS!!!! They make them for a reason. And i dont wanna hear the same ol excuse " Well i cant hear anything....meh" Then get better earplugs.... Dont wear and get all stage volume?...or save hearing damage and annoying ringing for the rest of your days?......

I share exactly the same opinion as you, however I forgot my earplugs and due to it being in a pub venue they had none they could provide me with.
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False. It's just the technical term for 'ears ringing.'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinnitus


You know I don't like trying to 1-up people, but from the article: "However, the most common cause is noise-induced hearing loss."

And I've heard that the frequency you hear in the "ringing", is the frequency that the cillia in the cochlea respond too. Meaning those cillia are damaged, and may never be able to regenerate. Meaning you may never hear that frequency again.

Which is why all the TGP'ers don't know tone...they're all old, have tinnitus and can't hear a full frequency band.
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I share exactly the same opinion as you, however I forgot my earplugs and due to it being in a pub venue they had none they could provide me with.

Ah HA! Gotcha. It happens. Just passing on the love bro. No hate. You'd be surprised how many people just are so ignorant about not having them....How'd did i get it you ask?.... Cause i was that guy. Dont be that guy! I AINT SAYIN WHAT FOR MY HEALTH!!!!!!.....that works for awhile
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You know I don't like trying to 1-up people, but from the article: "However, the most common cause is noise-induced hearing loss."

And I've heard that the frequency you hear in the "ringing", is the frequency that the cillia in the cochlea respond too. Meaning those cillia are damaged, and may never be able to regenerate. Meaning you may never hear that frequency again.

Which is why all the TGP'ers don't know tone...they're all old, have tinnitus and can't hear a full frequency band.

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You know I don't like trying to 1-up people, but from the article: "However, the most common cause is noise-induced hearing loss."

And I've heard that the frequency you hear in the "ringing", is the frequency that the cillia in the cochlea respond too. Meaning those cillia are damaged, and may never be able to regenerate. Meaning you may never hear that frequency again.

Which is why all the TGP'ers don't know tone...they're all old, have tinnitus and can't hear a full frequency band.

I don't like trying to one up people either, if I attempt it I make sure to succeed.

The most common cause may be noise-induced hearing loss, but that isn't what tinnitus is. "Tinnitus (pron.: /tɪˈnaɪtəs/ or /ˈtɪnɪtəs/; from the Latin word tinnītus meaning "ringing") is the perception of sound within the human ear in the absence of corresponding external sound."

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I don't like trying to one up people either, if I attempt it I make sure to succeed.

The most common cause may be noise-induced hearing loss, but that isn't what tinnitus is. "Tinnitus (pron.: /tɪˈnaɪtəs/ or /ˈtɪnɪtəs/; from the Latin word tinnītus meaning "ringing") is the perception of sound within the human ear in the absence of corresponding external sound."

That never ends......there for permanant......and most all medical terms are in latin.......wife and mother are both RN's couldnt help but learn this crap.

But yes it is self induced. Or casued by something other than a gentic defect. For instance my grandfather got it WWII becasue of all the cannons that he used while in the Navy. And my fathers baby sitter smacked both his ears. Resulting him losing a little over 50% of his hearing. Alot of people have it and not even know it to! Doctor had to ask if i had ringing in my ears and i said yes. He said i can tell because there is alot of inner ear damage.

(not trying to be a dick i promise.) Just spreading the love. And i like joking around alot.
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But it does end in a lot of cases...

"For tinnitus due to acute acoustic trauma, approximately 35% of cases report subsiding tinnitus at three months after the trauma, with approximately 10% of these cases being the degree of complete disappearance of the tinnitus, as studied among young men having acquired tinnitus from gunshots.[93]"
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But it does end in a lot of cases...

Some cases if mild. It takes alot to become permanant.

Im just talking about the most extreme cases.
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I'm just messing with you guys...

I'm a semantics nazi.
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Fortunately my tinnitus subsided, but it took several years.

I do still have a large gap in my hearing range and always will, barring a medical breakthrough, but excellent hearing both above and below that frequency band. I can't hear crickets, which is occasionally a blessing but I'd really rather have my hearing back. I note as I get older, I have a harder time filtering background noise during conversation as well which I suspect is going to get worse.

It was caused by firearms, heavy equipment operation and racing when I was young and too stupid to use proper hearing protection.

Don't do what I did, it's not worth it. It's frankly utterly ****ing ignorant and you WILL pay the price later on in life. I still love and appreciate music, but there's a part of me that wonders how much of it I'm missing...
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I use plugs and muffs when shooting...
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I use plugs and muffs when shooting...


I did for quite a while, but now I use a good set of electronic muffs, which allows me to hear what's going on around me without risking further hearing damage.
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heh, muffs.
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