Shelbien
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Hello friends. I have been eyeing the ZVex Box of Rock for some time now and would like some clarifications before making the plunge.

Will distortion pedals sound similar through different amplifiers? For example, if I run a distortion pedal through a Fender amp and a Marshall amp, with both on clean channels, will the sound produced be similar in tone or will the effect vary with the amp.

Also, are there any other distortion/boost combo pedals similar to the Box of Rock? I only know of the Suhr Koko Boost and Fulltone Fulldrive 2 in addition to the Box of Rock.
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the amp/speakers/cabinet/guitar will affect how the pedal sounds a lot.

i'd need to look up with the BOR is to see if there's anything similar which is easily available. don't really have time tonight, will do it tomorrow if you give this thread a bump.
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They will vary with the amp, yes. The Box of Rock works well with Fenders like the Hot Rod Deluxe, Pro Jr, and Blues Jr. Not sure about how it works with Marshalls or others. It's kind of a JTM45 in a box. Does a pretty good job too I think...at least from the perspective of someone who's never played a real cranked JTM45 (that's for Cathbard ).

Fulldrive 2 is also a nice pedal. I have a Carl Martin Plexitone that has a boost as well as two overdrive stages.
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Check Wampler out. They have some of the Best overdrives i've ever encountered!!! They are pricey but so are Zvex. Zvex pedals have this wierd fuzzy nasaley quality which some people love or hate. But check the tube for some of Wamplers pedals. I think you will like. Or the Amptweaker TightDrive

And yes they will sound a little different because of there construction and speaker type. Plus your eq will make all the diff as well.
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Quote by Deadpool_25
They will vary with the amp, yes. The Box of Rock works well with Fenders like the Hot Rod Deluxe, Pro Jr, and Blues Jr. Not sure about how it works with Marshalls or others. It's kind of a JTM45 in a box. Does a pretty good job too I think...at least from the perspective of someone who's never played a real cranked JTM45 (that's for Cathbard ).

Fulldrive 2 is also a nice pedal. I have a Carl Martin Plexitone that has a boost as well as two overdrive stages.

OH yes Carl Martin is bad to the bone dude. Great pedal. Ugly.....but great.

And JTM45 is like O...M....G fully cranked BTW.
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Don't buy, build.

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That Carl Martin Plexidrive sounds very nice, but is a bit on the large side. As for the Wampler pedals, I'm looking for a pedal with two buttons for a boost and distortion. If I had the tools and skill, I would love to build my own pedals. However, I have no experience with a soldering iron and lack a steady hand.

What about a distortion pedal through an SS amp and a tube amp? Does that have tonal differences as well?
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may be a little different form of Rock type, but how would a catalingred DLS be? they are a marshall in a box for the most part. i don't know how it would be different with fenders and marshalls, but again a lot of pedals are voiced for pretty much anything. ex, tubescreamers, wahs, etc.
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Quote by trashedlostfdup
may be a little different form of Rock type, but how would a catalingred DLS be? they are a marshall in a box for the most part. i don't know how it would be different with fenders and marshalls, but again a lot of pedals are voiced for pretty much anything. ex, tubescreamers, wahs, etc.

I found the DLS lacking in high-mids bite that Marshalls are easily identifiable by. Granted, through tweaking it could probably sound good, but I second Wampler. The Plextortion is an amazing pedal. The JHS Pedals Charlie Brown is worth a look, too.

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What about a distortion pedal through an SS amp and a tube amp? Does that have tonal differences as well?

Yes, because they're different amps. Tube amps aren't inherited being "better" than SS amps, they just sound different model to model, and not all of them work with pedals the same way.
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I thought the distortion comes from the pedal and not the amp when using a pedal turn a clean channel into distortion. So by this logic, wouldn't the choice of amp make a small difference in sound when comparing the tones of each amp through the pedal, especially if the pedal is designed to emulate another amp?
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Quote by Shelbien
I thought the distortion comes from the pedal and not the amp when using a pedal turn a clean channel into distortion. So by this logic, wouldn't the choice of amp make a small difference in sound when comparing the tones of each amp through the pedal, especially if the pedal is designed to emulate another amp?


Clean amps have their own tones too. Think of them as spices. Adding distortion, whether it's from the amp or from a pedal, is adding another spice. Some spices go well together, some don't.
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Quote by Shelbien
I thought the distortion comes from the pedal and not the amp when using a pedal turn a clean channel into distortion. So by this logic, wouldn't the choice of amp make a small difference in sound when comparing the tones of each amp through the pedal, especially if the pedal is designed to emulate another amp?

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Quote by Shelbien
I thought the distortion comes from the pedal and not the amp when using a pedal turn a clean channel into distortion. So by this logic, wouldn't the choice of amp make a small difference in sound when comparing the tones of each amp through the pedal, especially if the pedal is designed to emulate another amp?


nope

you're playing through the same speakers which massively affect the overall tone, and the tone of the clean channel will massively affect how the pedal sounds.

plus if you want your distortion louder than your clean tone, you'll be pushing the amp a bit harder too i.e. making it distort more. But even running a distortion pedal at unity gain, the overall tone of the amp you run it through has a massive effect, even if the amp is being run totally clean.
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I saw in a couple of pictures that on Bucketheads Les Paul (only some pictures) that his neck pickup is painted in white. Can anyone explain to me why he would do this, and if there are any pros and cons.

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The guy wears a KFC Bucket and a white mask during performances, and you're interested in the color of his pickup covers?