Lyrax
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I was browsing around on the Bookface and saw this cool headstock design and some different tuning pegs.
It seems to have a layer of carbon fiber. Would this affect the tone in any way? Or let`s say that you have a really heavy guitar and take some of the edges away and replace them with some carbon fibre, would that severely affect the resonance and the tone?

I would actually love to have those pegs!
Here`s the pic by the way:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/860936_10201437789205745_1581022392_o.jpg
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I wouldn't worry yourself about carbon fibre too much. Many acoustic instruments such as cellos and violins are made out of Carbon Fibre, so I'm sure it is fine for a solid-body electric guitar

I've got some carbon fibre drumsticks actually and do you know what they sound like? Drumsticks...
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Holy freaking crap!!! I want those tuners but other than that I don't like it very much
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Holy freaking crap!!! I want those tuners but other than that I don't like it very much


this....I need those tuners for a roswell i'm building ......
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The headstock is not going to affect your tone on an electric guitar, but if you don't get the fiber bonded to the wood well enough, you could get a broken headstock out of the deal.
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I've got some carbon fibre drumsticks actually and do you know what they sound like? Drumsticks...


While I quite like the look of the tuners, I can't imagine them being particularly easy to use. The headstock itself I think is pretty hideous - might come in handy for opening giant bottles though.
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Those tuners are sick, the headstock looks like if Parker came out with a Br00talz metal 7 string
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While I quite like the look of the tuners, I can't imagine them being particularly easy to use. The headstock itself I think is pretty hideous - might come in handy for opening giant bottles though.


I dunno about those tuners though, they're... different
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tuners are cool, I hate when they get in eachothers way when you tune
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Does anyone know where to get tuners like those?
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Hey, Lyrax,

Quote by Lyrax
It seems to have a layer of carbon fiber. Would this affect the tone in any way?
As I understand it, yeah, anything on a guitar affects tone. However, does it affect for the better or the worse?

That's the tricky question. Why? Well, "better" or "worse" is subjective, according to the individual player.

From what I've read Carbon Fibre adds all sorts of resonance and anti-vibration properties. BUT, is this what makes a plank sound better or worse?

I dunno. Does anyone?

Is there any way for you to go pick one up and play it, and see what YOU think? I'd be interested in your opinion if you found one to sample.


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jetwash69
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Quote by Splanker
Hey, Lyrax,

As I understand it, yeah, anything on a guitar affects tone. However, does it affect for the better or the worse?

That's the tricky question. Why? Well, "better" or "worse" is subjective, according to the individual player.

From what I've read Carbon Fibre adds all sorts of resonance and anti-vibration properties. BUT, is this what makes a plank sound better or worse?

I dunno. Does anyone?

Is there any way for you to go pick one up and play it, and see what YOU think? I'd be interested in your opinion if you found one to sample.





There's a lot of marketing bullshit and exaggeration out there on that, but for a solid body electric guitar plugged in, the bridge/saddle construction, design, & materials, plus the pickups and their locations (including height adjustment) account for 90 - 99.X% of it. Scale length and string gauge are also more significant than the woods or the shape of the guitar itself, as is the internal electronics (pots & caps). Nut material is also a factor on open notes for guitars lacking a zero fret.

Acoustic, hollow body, and semi-hollow body guitars are a different matter, due to their microphonic pickups.
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Hey, Lyrax,

As I understand it, yeah, anything on a guitar affects tone. However, does it affect for the better or the worse?

That's the tricky question. Why? Well, "better" or "worse" is subjective, according to the individual player.

From what I've read Carbon Fibre adds all sorts of resonance and anti-vibration properties. BUT, is this what makes a plank sound better or worse?

I dunno. Does anyone?

Is there any way for you to go pick one up and play it, and see what YOU think? I'd be interested in your opinion if you found one to sample.



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Actually I think I've been in every musicstore in this town and I've never seen a guitar that's made out of carbon fibre och any part of the guitar for that matter.
The only stringed instrument outta carbon fibre I've ever seen was like a cello and I don't play that.
Wait, if the it has anti-vibrating properties and then enhances resonance it doesn't make sense.
The whole body resonates/vibrates when you hit a string right?

Could someone explain?
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Could someone explain?
Resonance is the phenomenon of sympathetic vibration at certain frequencies. So a given material can "enhance resonance" at certain frequencies while still having "anti-vibration properties" at others.

I'm with jetwash69 and I think people should stop stressing over what their (solid body electric) guitar's made of because it makes next to no difference when stacked up against construction, electrical components, amplification and effects.

But as for this particular example, that thin veneer of carbon fibre on the back of the headstock is purely aesthetic and will be contributing absolutely nothing to the tone (in my opinion).
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Ah you know what? I've just got acoustics in my head and should be recognising the difference to electrics.

Pay more attention Splanker :p
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Quote by jetwash69
Acoustic, hollow body, and semi-hollow body guitars are a different matter, due to their microphonic pickups.

That is completely false. Hollow and semi-hollows don't have 'microphonic pickups' any more than solidbody guitars do - actually less in many cases because they are so prone to feedback. A lot of manufacturers use exactly the same pickups in their solid, semi- and hollow-body models.

Those kinds of guitars 'care' more about their body construction because the body resonates so much more than a solidbody does. The body does make a difference, it's just not always noticeable on solidbodies because there's so little vibration going on.