GuitarNewb77
14 year old guitar newb
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#1
So, I've been playing guitar for over a year now, and my first electric was a Korean Les Paul as a Christmas Present in 2011. I love it to pieces, and it's certainly better than any
Epiphone Les Paul Special II which is what many new guitarists get, but i've been looking for something new. PLaying one guitar for over a year gets kinda old. I'm looking for versatility. I had narrowed it down to either an HSS Strat or SG w/ P90s. My guitar teacher said the Strat would be much more versatile, and he knows his stuff. I went into the local music store yesterday to drop off my Les Paul (fret dress-up and string change) and started looking at some Strats. The only strats in there were SSS. I tested a used Squier Standard that played pretty good. It was 129, if I remember right (the owner prices his used stuff pretty low, thank god no one has pointed that out to him). I saw a Used Black Fender Mexican in the corner, so I tried it out. It played like an absolute dream. It was only 199. Is that a good deal? What is the general opinion of Mexican strats? If I saved up some extra cash and got it, how much would an HSS setup cost if I wanted one eventually? Or is it better to just keep it SSS?
Last edited by GuitarNewb77 at Mar 15, 2013,
Mephaphil
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#2
Mexican Strats are great guitars. If you like it that's all that matters.

What currency are you talking about? Even if it's £ or $ that's a good price.

Ask them in the store to open it, it might have a HSS route already, but most likely won't.

You can get many humbuckers in single coil size, you could also get it routed for that but it involves cutting the body up a little.
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JustRooster
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#3
The MIM Strat is the Chevy Nova of the guitar world. By itself, it's a pretty solid guitar. Some are better than others, but overall most are worth their nice budget price-tag.

However, with some proper love and some aftermarket parts, they can become pretty damn cool hot-rods. Also like the Chevy Nova, you can fix or mod pretty much everything on them a couple screwdrivers and needle nose pliers

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funkbass369
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#4
That's a steal for Mexican strat. If you liked it, I recommend that you buy it. I would also advise you to get a guitar that only has single coils, as you already have a guitar that has humbuckers. That way you can cover more tonal range with both guitars.
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GuitarNewb77
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#5
Quote by funkbass369
That's a steal for Mexican strat. If you liked it, I recommend that you buy it. I would also advise you to get a guitar that only has single coils, as you already have a guitar that has humbuckers. That way you can cover more tonal range with both guitars.

You're right. instead of trying to find the do-all, most versatile guitar ever that doesn't exist, i'm better off just owning several. I play a pretty wide variety of music. Anything from CCR to AC/DC. The Les Paul doesn't quite "do it" for me when playing lead southern rock (which I play alot of) , especially songs like Green Grass an High Tides. Hopefully someday i'll have several Strats and Les Pauls, a few 335's, maybe a Gretsch, some SG's, (I want a Robby Krieger-style SG with a Maestro VOS, maybe with P90's) some Teles, and hopefully i'll inherit a Fender Jaguar....or was that a Mustang But for right now a Les Paul and a Strat should do it for me.

I probably need a better amp (Right now I just have a Peavey Vypyr 15) a little more than I need a new guitar right now.....ohh and a better place to play (a cramped up bedroom ain't ideal )
Last edited by GuitarNewb77 at Mar 15, 2013,
Mephaphil
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#6
What amp do you have, Sir?
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funkbass369
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#7
A vyper 15 is a fine amp if you aren't playing with a drummer.
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Bass Big Muff
DD3 Delay

MIA Strat
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Martin 00015M
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Big Muff
DS1
Hendrix Crybaby Wah
Mephaphil
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Quote by funkbass369
A vyper 15 is a fine amp if you aren't playing with a drummer.


Doh.
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funkbass369
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#9
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Doh.


Yes?
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MIA P Bass
MIM Jazz Bass
GK 700RB-II Head
GK 410SBX Cab
Sansamp 3 Ch. DI
Crybaby Bass Wah
Bass Big Muff
DD3 Delay

MIA Strat
Nashville Tele
Martin 00015M
Hot Rod Deluxe
Big Muff
DS1
Hendrix Crybaby Wah
Mephaphil
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Quote by funkbass369
Yes?


Yes.
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funkbass369
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#11
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Yes.


Alright then.
MM Stingray
MIA P Bass
MIM Jazz Bass
GK 700RB-II Head
GK 410SBX Cab
Sansamp 3 Ch. DI
Crybaby Bass Wah
Bass Big Muff
DD3 Delay

MIA Strat
Nashville Tele
Martin 00015M
Hot Rod Deluxe
Big Muff
DS1
Hendrix Crybaby Wah
Mephaphil
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#12
Quote by GuitarNewb77
I probably need a better amp (Right now I just have a Peavey Vypyr 15) a little more than I need a new guitar right now.....ohh and a better place to play (a cramped up bedroom ain't ideal )


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Quote by Mephaphil
What amp do you have, Sir?


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Quote by funkbass369
A vyper 15 is a fine amp if you aren't playing with a drummer.


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Doh.


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Go ahead and spend your money, I don't care. It won't make you sound better.


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GuitarNewb77
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#13
Yeah, the Vypyr 15 ain't the best. It's actually pretty darn loud, I don't ever put it past 3 or 4 even on my clean channel. But the effects are cheap and the tones are geared towards metal players. Before it messed up, I had a DigiTech RP55 running through it and it sounded good. I need a good amp that's a step up from my Vypyr but won't break the bank. I think I would rather have a basic amp with little effects on it and have a seperate multi-effects pedal running through it rather than a amp with a ton of effects already on it.
themarvinbrown
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#14
i think the mexican strat'll be a guitar you'll love forever and a great choice for a second guitar. can't argue with that but if you REALLY want the HSS, follow your heart. i'm sure u won't regret it
randywolf244
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#15
Used Mexican strats usually get anywhere from 200 to 350, but from someone who had owned several Mexicans and Americans, it's a great guitar. Honestly I love my Mexican way more than I loved my American
Bhaok
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#17
It seems the V word appears here. " I'm looking for versatility" Operator and amp are the things that have the most effect on overall tone.
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GuitarNewb77
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#18
Stupid me, I went back to pick up my Les Paul today and checked out the MiM Strat again...it's a '95 btw... and noticed the little "Squier Series" thingy in small letters on the the headstock....is that a deal breaker? Iv'e never heard of Fender making Squier series guitars in mexico.....
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calculusluv
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Quote by GuitarNewb77
Stupid me, I went back to pick up my Les Paul today and checked out the MiM Strat again and noticed the little "Squier Series" thingy on the tip of the headstock....is that a deal breaker? Iv'e never heard of Fender making Squier series guitars in mexico.....


yeah, definitely not the same as MIMs. Could be a deal breaker for you
gregs1020
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#20
i don't think $199 for a used MIM squier is a bad deal myself.

i'd do it if it played nice etc, it's still a decent modding platform.
JustRooster
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#21
Quote by gregs1020
i don't think $199 for a used MIM squier is a bad deal myself.

i'd do it if it played nice etc, it's still a decent modding platform.



Like I said...


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GuitarNewb77
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#22
I'm hearing some say that it's still worth it and some say that it's a deal breaker....


Would I be better off with a Squier Standard, maybe putting better tuning pegs and Pups on later?