Poll: Star Wars vs Star Trek
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35 63%
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#41
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to be fair I didn't get into atlantis or universe after I wasn't impressed by the early episodes and was just content for things to end at sg-1.

Eh, fair enough. I've watched a fair amount on Netflix. I keep intending to buy more season DVDs and running out of cash before I can.

Anyway, SG-1 did get somewhat formulaic at first and picked up after that. It's sort of like the writers said, "Hey, let's make multiple episode story arcs with the over-arching arc of humanity vs. the Gould." So, season 4 is definitely when they realized they need to stop with the whole trope of saving the universe by going back into the Stargate. Or at least, "the saving" is not done until after they tie up several other interesting ends.
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#44
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to be fair I didn't get into atlantis or universe after I wasn't impressed by the early episodes and was just content for things to end at sg-1.


SG-1 being as great as it was from seasons 1-7 made me really skeptical about Atlantis for the longest time. It doesn't start too great (Atlantis) but picks up in the 2-3 seasons and becomes a really great show. It should have gone a lot longer than it did, especially when you compare the quality of Altantis' latter episodes with SG-1's.

Universe wasn't too bad but there was definitely room for improvement.
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#45
Anybody who actually cares remotely about the events that transpire in the respective series would say Star Trek.
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#46
^You still watching DS9?
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#47
Yes. I'm actually now on the last episode of season 1
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#48
I think it gets much better in the later series.
But boys will be boys and girls have those eyes
that'll cut you to ribbons, sometimes
and all you can do is just wait by the moon
and bleed if it's what she says you ought to do
#49
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Star Wars had:


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omffffggggggggg that was the greatest game ever.


This debate is apples and oranges.

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#52
Star Wars
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#53
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^You still watching DS9?

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Yes. I'm actually now on the last episode of season 1




DS9 is my fast becoming my favourite trek series and only on second season. Already on the same level as TNG IMO.
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#54
They are two completely different things, you can't even compare them.

One is a fantasy story set in the past (and far away), one is science fiction set in the future.

They have nothing in common.

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#55
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DS9 is my fast becoming my favourite trek series and only on second season. Already on the same level as TNG IMO.

I like it more the more that I watch it, but it could never be equal to TNG to me. For one, I think TNG had stronger acting. There are good actors in DS9, but right now Sisko seems really bland to me. I'm aware that he changes, and I'm still waiting on that.
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#56
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SG-1 being as great as it was from seasons 1-7 made me really skeptical about Atlantis for the longest time. It doesn't start too great (Atlantis) but picks up in the 2-3 seasons and becomes a really great show. It should have gone a lot longer than it did, especially when you compare the quality of Altantis' latter episodes with SG-1's.

Universe wasn't too bad but there was definitely room for improvement.

The problem with Universe is that half of the conflict involved Commander Scott and Rush. It got boring after awhile. By the 3rd time that Scott beat the shit out of Rush, they finally seemed to stop fighting like kids; but still the story was very driven by Scott and Rush having differing opinions. Chloe becoming a quasi-alien was cool though...

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They are two completely different things, you can't even compare them.

One is a fantasy story set in the past (and far away), one is science fiction set in the future.

They have nothing in common.

You mean, except for the fact that they both involve spaceships, viewer contact with different belief systems ("the Force" for Star Wars, the various beliefs of the "Alien races" for Star Trek), and very much designed to be epics? Well, then in that case, nothing in common whatsoever.
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#57
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You mean, except for the fact that they both involve spaceships, viewer contact with different belief systems ("the Force" for Star Wars, the various beliefs of the "Alien races" for Star Trek), and very much designed to be epics? Well, then in that case, nothing in common whatsoever.

Like I said, fantasy and sci-fi completely are different genres. The fact they both feature spaceships etc doesn't matter, you might as well try comparing Lord Of The Rings to X-Men.

Doesn't stop them all being good though - I have a pretty large DVD collection including all of Star Trek, Star Wars (although I haven't got around to buying series 4 of the Clone Wars yet) and Stargate, as well as Farscape, Babylon 5, 4400, Firefly and all the X-Men & LOTR movies.

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#58
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There are good actors in DS9, but right now Sisko seems really bland to me. I'm aware that he changes, and I'm still waiting on that.

Yeah, his character undergoes some serious changes
he shaves his head
But boys will be boys and girls have those eyes
that'll cut you to ribbons, sometimes
and all you can do is just wait by the moon
and bleed if it's what she says you ought to do
#59
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Yeah, his character undergoes some serious changes
he shaves his head

Yea, pretty crazy.

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#60
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Like I said, fantasy and sci-fi completely are different genres. The fact they both feature spaceships etc doesn't matter, you might as well try comparing Lord Of The Rings to X-Men.

Doesn't stop them all being good though - I have a pretty large DVD collection including all of Star Trek, Star Wars (although I haven't got around to buying series 4 of the Clone Wars yet) and Stargate, as well as Farscape, Babylon 5, 4400, Firefly and all the X-Men & LOTR movies.

Except for LotR, all of those have elements of both science fiction and fantasy to them. Science fiction, really, is just a form of fantasy having spaceships and other technological marvels anyway. So, yes, you can compare them.

Whether you should or not, that's another thing.
#61
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DS9 is my fast becoming my favourite trek series and only on second season. Already on the same level as TNG IMO.


I'd say so. The story development of the Federation and the Cardassians was enough to keep me hooked as the show progressed.

Then there's the crossovers they did with TNG.

Ahhh I haven't seen the show in years.
#62
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Yea, pretty crazy.

Don't forget the goatee

He goes all heisenberg on our ass
in the hair department, at least
but the episode 'In The Pale Moonlight' (season 6) is my perhaps my favourite, and is all about Benjamin's character
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and all you can do is just wait by the moon
and bleed if it's what she says you ought to do
#63
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Except for LotR, all of those have elements of both science fiction and fantasy to them. Science fiction, really, is just a form of fantasy having spaceships and other technological marvels anyway. So, yes, you can compare them.

Whether you should or not, that's another thing.

I never see a point in comparing them (or most other shows/films) - the only thing that matters is each person's opinion of each.

Also, isn't the technology to create a ring that controls people and acts as a cloaking device to make you invisible the sort of thing you might expect from science fiction....

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#64
I'd preferred the Star Trek movie to any Star Wars movie that's been made, but that's not saying much really as I'm sure most Trekkies scoffed at it.
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#65
Star Trek for me. I prefer shows with ethical dilemmas, instead of physical ones.


Edit: To expand on that, I think that the former have greater potential to draw viewers in because you can disagree with the conclusion or it can challenge your real-life beliefs. The latter doesn't challenge the viewer any more than 'well, I would have shot the dude on the left first instead of the dude in the front.'
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#66
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Star Trek for me. I prefer shows with ethical dilemmas, instead of physical ones.

Also this very much. Star Trek is more more cerebral.
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#67
Yeah, it's like classical music comapred to rock n' roll - unless it's directed by JJ Abrams.
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#68
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Yeah, it's like classical music comapred to rock n' roll - unless it's directed by JJ Abrams.



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#69
Michael Giacchino, iirc?
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and all you can do is just wait by the moon
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#70
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Except for LotR, all of those have elements of both science fiction and fantasy to them. Science fiction, really, is just a form of fantasy having spaceships and other technological marvels anyway. So, yes, you can compare them.

Whether you should or not, that's another thing.


Wiki says it better;
"Science fiction has been used by authors as a device to discuss philosophical ideas such as identity, desire, morality and social structure"
Science fiction tends to be more like that then fantasy. But yeah there is common ground.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_fiction

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Also this very much. Star Trek is more more cerebral.


Yep, this is why it has me hooked. Just so much more interesting, and more depth IMO.
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